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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 65 — CEO Assassins? Best Christmas Movies?
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Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Thought Prime Thursday.
I'm here, Jack Posobiec, coming to you remote this evening.
I'm down here in Palm Beach, Florida.
I've been conducting a number of We're not actually sure
if Charlie is going to be joining us.
He was supposed to be here, but he may be flying in if he's able to do so.
But do not worry, do not fear, because we've got a fantastic thought crime lineup for you tonight and a list of fascinating and wonderful crimes of thought to commit.
And joining us as well is Blake Neff.
What's up, Blake?
Howdy, Jack.
Good to have you.
You look like you are inside the sun right now, but I'm sure it's all for the best.
I've got like a light.
I've got like a light on my thing.
I could turn it down.
Am I still inside the sun?
You're still somewhat inside the sun.
As opposed to you, who looks like you've never seen the sun.
Yeah, you know, it's just part of the color, as it were, or the lack of color, we might say.
We have a special guest today because I think Andrew's on a plane, and I think Tyler was like, I have to help some Republicans or some lame excuse like that.
Whatever.
We have one of the men who made our victory in this election possible.
This is Matthew Martinez.
He is with Chase the Vote over at Turning Point Action.
That's right.
I would visit him every day before the election.
I would go in and I would say, are we going to win?
And he would be like, 110% Blake, we're going to win.
And look at what happened.
And we won.
So if we'd lost, we might have thrown him off the building.
But we won so he doesn't have to get thrown off the building.
And instead, he's the hero.
That's the stakes of winning and losing.
Thanks, Blake.
Thanks for the introduction.
And you know what?
I do have a little bit more sun.
We're calling here a sunny Phoenix, Arizona.
Spent a lot of time outside of my life.
And actually, before I got into politics, I actually did a lot of AC work on roofs and attics, right?
So I spent a lot of sun.
So that gave me a little bit more of my complexion.
Right, being here in Arizona.
But, yeah, welcome.
Thanks for having me on the show.
Of course, of course.
Thank you.
Thank you for stepping in.
Well, the first topic we have, I think we were all in agreement we had to hit this.
We have armed lunatics murdering CEOs in the streets of America.
Right.
Yep.
of New York, but that's kind of selling it short.
He was basically assassinated.
Yeah.
A guy came up, pulled a suppressed pistol, shot him, made a planned getaway, it seems.
Yep.
It seems police are closing in.
They have a photo of him.
They seem to even know where the suspect, kind of how he traveled up to...
Central Park.
Yeah, he traveled there on a bus from Atlanta by the sounds of it.
Now, they haven't released a name for the person, so my guess is maybe they were able to use security...
Have they released a name?
Yeah, I mean, I have to imagine they have a name by now.
If you've got that much information, you know which bus he took, you know which – they're talking about the hostel that he stayed at.
They have that.
The bicycle he took, too.
Well, I guess – I'm sure they would.
I guarantee they would.
I'm surprised they wouldn't give out the name then so people could ask for information potentially like if they know who they're looking for but I guess now that I think about it they don't seem to do that in a lot of other cases.
One of the things was that apparently the guy was traveling with a fake ID so it could be that the The name they currently have is the fake name that he used to check into the hostel.
And then if he was traveling on the bus, then potentially, yeah, he wouldn't need, you know, wouldn't really need to buy a ticket in name if you paid cash, if you did it in a smart way.
So it's possible that they have a name, but it's just a fake name and they're just kind of, you know, whittling down.
I mean, either way, here's what I want to say.
So I understand we probably can't, can we play the video or, you know, we're on Rumble, right?
I don't know if that's, If that's doable or not.
But the question is, though, the first thing I want to say is that when this video first dropped, I remember it was going viral.
People were looking at it.
Charlie was looking at it.
He was asking me about it.
And people kept saying, oh, this thing is so professional.
It's a professional hit.
This is the real deal.
This is what it really looks like.
And I remember watching it going, this is a joke.
This guy's a LARPer.
This is a guy who's just like, watch too many Liam I mean, this is just despicable stuff.
Just straight up despicable, evil, disgusting stuff.
I've stayed at that hotel.
You know, this is the Midtown Hilton.
This is where Trump had his first victory speech in 2016. This is where Trump's victory party was.
It was the same.
If it's the same Midtown Hilton, which I think it is, this is where Trump held his 2016 victory, was in that very same hotel.
I was there then.
I remember at one point standing right there as Trump was walking in down that very same sidewalk.
One was that November 3rd of 2016, and we were still on the 4th, you know, at like 3 in the morning, and I'm walking by, and I watched, there was a firetruck there, and I watched John Podesta's speech, like, on this, like, little TV that was in the side of the firetruck, and, sorry, yeah, no, I mean, it doesn't, it's not connected to what happened, it's just my memory of that sidewalk, that very same stretch of sidewalk is so vivid, and then to think that there was this murder situation, That took place there was crazy.
Blake, there's another piece of it where we also apparently found out how it is that this guy slipped his mask.
Oh, yeah.
So just breaking now, we were seeing this.
We have a photo of the shooter where his mask is down.
And apparently the way they got this was a woman was flirting with him at the hostel that he stayed in.
I called it.
I called it.
And asked him to pull down his mask while she was flirting with him.
And then you can see there he's got his mask pulled down and is smiling at her.
He's got that mac and face.
He's got that face like a mac and face.
You know, I'm something of an assassin myself.
You can see it!
A pure hideous incel shooter would have never made that mistake.
He would still be on the run, no clues left behind.
And so there were some clues that were left behind and this was, you know, apparently was done.
So I remember one of the first things I said was, you know, why leave shells?
You're leaving shell casings everywhere.
They're going to be able to identify the gun.
And it turns out that the shell casings were left on purpose with a sort of message.
Do you have that?
I don't know if we have photos of it, but the actual words were...
It was delay, defend, and depose.
I think depose is probably referring to, like, depositions that you would do in a legal case.
And so that gets into the second part of this, which is so interesting, is he was...
He's a health insurance CEO. Health insurance companies are not super popular in America because they're the ones you have to interact with in our very expensive healthcare system...
Healthcare costs a lot.
They sometimes deny claims or contest claims.
And the claim is especially that this company in particular, allegedly, is maybe more aggressive in contesting claims.
And so what you have on the internet, if you check Twitter or if you check the liberal haven of blue sky, you have people just overtly celebrating this murder.
They're saying, this is great.
He got what he deserved.
I hope this guy makes it out.
Those words apparently are reference to a title of a book, right?
This book that was written, Jay Fineman, Delay, Deny, Defend, which is exactly what you're talking about.
It's a book that was written about insurance companies who don't pay the claims, what you can do about it.
So it was this whole, like...
Famous, you know, in those circles, you know, cut up of the insurance agency.
A real grievance, by the way.
A true grievance.
I'm not saying it's not a true grievance.
But apparently the words on the bullet casings were a direct reference to this book, you know, that was anti-insurance companies.
Yeah, precisely.
And so it's a valid critique to say that these companies deny too many claims, but it's very dark that you're seeing this pivot towards people just overtly celebrating what is an appalling murder in the streets.
And I'll be honest, I'm a little upset.
I think even on the right, I don't see people quite as...
opposed to this as they should be you're young you might have a good you know do i feel like there's a lot of pro there's a lot of sympathy towards like underdogs however defined even if they're criminals sure or just this sort of chaotic element among young people where they think america's a scam or america is rigged and it makes them inclined to cheer for people who are violent criminals it depends on the side of my generation right for these younger people amongst students
if you're attending all these woke colleges they're probably going to be parading a little bit more about this shooting unfortunately Sickening.
It really is.
It's a gross mindset to have.
And this is, it could be anybody, right?
These are the same people that were parading when President Trump got shot, right?
They were just all excited, right?
This is disgusting.
These are also the same people who are against all these gun control, or for all these gun control people.
So it doesn't make any sense.
It's an oxymoron, frankly, amongst these people.
But there's also another factor, or I guess, set of people my age who are...
Recognizing what's going on, right?
And they're seeing that this is sickening regardless of political size or whomever it is, even if it's the most – although he is the CEO of the eighth largest company in the world, I believe.
Maybe the eighth largest health?
Health, yeah, something like that.
It's probably not the eighth largest overall.
Now, I don't know.
I don't know my company's – But regardless, even if the Robin Hood idea, right, what we care about, and a lot of my generation, is justice.
I think my generation is probably one of the largest, has this mindset of justice needs to be served with whomever, right?
That's why you see my generation protest at the drop of a pen sometimes, right?
Because they want to see justice, right?
So it is, we're seeing a mix in my generation, but I have also seen some things, too.
I think I saw it on Blue Skies, the Democrat little organization, the Twitter of Democrats.
Democrats and pedophiles.
Those are the two groups on Blue Sky.
Make sure to say right there, maps.
Minor attracted persons, Blake.
We don't want you mis- What do you even call it?
Misorienting.
Misorienting the pedos.
No, we can't have that.
This is thought crime after all.
This is a very classy production.
No, but here's the thing.
With what's going on, this is...
So, Blake, you and I did Chronicles of the Revolution last year, the podcast series, which then we turned into the book Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them.
And this is specifically...
Specifically, the ideology that we wrote about in the book with Joshua Lysette came in and was the co-author of it.
And we talked exactly about the ideology of communists and how this stuff spreads.
They take grievances, and then they decide that they can just kill, maim, steal anyone who is on the other side of the grievance, whether perceived or not, right?
So either a perceived false grievance or a real grievance.
And sure, these are real grievances.
I'm not saying they're not.
We've all had all sorts of issues with health insurance companies.
But that doesn't mean you can just pick up a gun and go start murdering people on the street.
And the problem is that when I see conservatives going in and saying, oh, yeah, you know, take it to the elites, you know, take it to take it to the man, et cetera.
Guess what?
They view you as the man too.
They view you and Donald Trump and your family and anyone else as this because they see you as unhuman.
They see you as an invasive species.
They see you as standing in the way of their utopia.
And ultimately...
It's not about justice and social justice and equity and all these fancy window dressing words that they use to kind of, you know, church it up, to try to dress it up.
No, it's about envy.
It's about grievance.
It's about petty resentment and hatred.
And so rather than do something to fix the situation, they just want to rob, kill, and destroy I hate to say it, but we took a lot of crap when we put that book out and it did very, very well.
And look, we saw this coming and it actually doesn't surprise me at all.
And Taylor Lorenz, by the way, is someone else who she posted, I don't know what they call them on Blue Sky, but she made a post on Blue Sky where she was saying that, oh, and they wonder why we want to kill healthcare CEOs.
The day after, I guess the day of, an assassination, cold blood like this, And so, people saying, wait a minute, isn't this Miss, you know, COVIDian Taylor Lorenz?
And she's so, so worried about COVID, and she spent months planning this, like, book launch, so it would be COVID-friendly and COVID-safe.
And we'll say, wait a minute, how could she be so worried about that and about getting one person's Again, it's because they don't view you as human.
They view you as something that is sub, something that is lesser, and they want you out of the way.
And their reasons for it at that point actually don't matter because they will condone any level of violence in order to achieve their ends.
This is all based in resentment.
And by the way, it's the same thing that's been going back since the French Revolution.
Yeah, you mentioned the Taylor Lorenz thing.
I think we should highlight what she actually said since a lot of people can't actually see it.
So, like, first, right after this happened, there was a news story with a separate healthcare company, Blue Cross Blue Shield.
There was a dispute.
I don't know the full details on it, but I guess Blue Cross was saying they were not going to pay for, like, the full cost of anesthesia in some surgeries.
And they backtracked on this because there was a lot of backlash to it.
All I would say is I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out there's like scumbag doctors out there who keep you under too long because then they can bilk, insure.
There's a shocking amount of medical fraud in America.
But whatever that case, even if they're really bad.
And she replies to this.
This is right after the shooting.
And people wonder why we want these executives dead.
And then she does various tweets.
She like does all these various other posts on Blue Sky.
Where someone said, like, you're posting your own sentiment.
She tries to backtrack later.
He says, don't backtrack.
People shouldn't celebrate murder.
And she replies, murder?
Like what happens every year to thousands of innocent Americans killed by greedy insurance executives denying their coverage?
You should probably understand this, because Taylor Lorenz is approximately your age, I believe.
She's somewhere between 18 and 50. These people are the same people who say, eat the rich.
They've been saying this for many, many, many years, and it's been subliminal.
This is absolutely subliminal.
So when you have that same mindset, that same campaign, Of attack the rich, eat the rich, despise those who make more, right?
It's going to cause motivation.
And this is what we're seeing in New York.
This is what happened just a few days ago.
Yeah, and what I... Hey, do you remember that movie Parasite?
Oh, the Korean movie?
Did you ever see that movie Parasite, the Korean movie, years ago?
Yeah, yeah.
So that movie, and it won like, it won an Academy Award or something.
And that was a movie where the left was loving this thing.
They thought it was so wonderful.
It was like, oh, it's this great, you know, this great, you know, this great film, blah, blah, blah.
And that's exactly what it was about.
It was about a group of people who go to work for a family.
And yeah, it won Best Picture at the Academy Awards.
So it won the Oscar for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, Best International Feature Film.
It won a ton of things.
And it was the first non-English film to win the Best Picture at the Academy Award.
So the first foreign film to win a non-English foreign film to win the Academy Award for Best Picture, this movie Parasite.
And what was it about?
It was about a family...
That essentially hires a rich family that hires a working class family to go and work for them.
And the working class family eventually just murders everyone in the rich family and ruins their lives.
And the rich family doesn't actually do anything wrong to the working class family, but we're told that the working class family are the heroes because they rose up and killed the rich people who hired them.
And I remember sitting watching this movie, getting all these accolades saying, what's going on?
Why are we supposed to hate these people who, okay, yeah, sure, they maybe they have this, you know, privileged life in terms of wealth and in terms of, you know, how well they've done for themselves in their lives.
And yet they, you know, they don't really get into how hard they worked or any of the sacrifices they had to make to be able to get to that level, et cetera.
We're just told that you're supposed to hate them because they're rich.
And therefore, the working class family is justified in killing the rich family because of the wealth disparity.
And it was crazy.
And this won the Academy Award literally like five years ago.
And I remember sitting there watching this going, why is nobody else talking You're right, it's this eat the rich mentality, and yet it's totally been mainstreamed.
Yeah, I mean, even I'm looking at our comments on the stream and, you know, we have purple daffodil saying it's like when people aren't sad when child murderers get murdered in prison.
Well, okay, but a guy who runs an insurance company is not a child murderer.
They are a person who runs a controversial business and that may require a policy action.
But what I've been warning, because I've I've talked to people relatively on our side who didn't care about this, were blasé about it, thought, oh, it seems like this guy deserves it.
And all I have to say is the people who are defending this would defend any other like unfamous white guy CEO getting shot.
They would find a reason to justify it.
They'd say he pays a low wage.
He doesn't pay workers enough.
There was a sexual harassment lawsuit at his company.
His company is racist.
They don't hire enough.
They would find the outsources to this or that country.
That's bad.
They would find a reason to hate this person because what this is really rooted in is a fundamental resentment.
They are they're basically happy that a white male CEO got shot.
And they would find a reason to celebrate this because white male not famous CEO is a Kulak class.
To reference that, if you're familiar with it, the Kulaks, we've talked about it on the show, they were the targets of the Bolsheviks.
It was like the prosperous peasants of early Soviet Russia.
And that's kind of what...
wants to expropriate and it's they're not just focused on billionaires they're very much focused on anyone who owns a company is the head of a company is conventionally successful in america who doesn't entire who isn't entirely subsumed into this left-wing apparatus uh purple daffodils He says it has nothing to do with him being a white male.
Well, yes, it does.
It absolutely does for a lot of them.
It really does.
Maybe not you specifically, but for the bulk of people celebrating this, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I'm not seeing the chat.
I don't have it up.
But look, here's the issue, right?
If you think, oh, it's not that big of a deal, it was just this one guy.
Well, guess what?
Guess what?
If you don't crack down on things like this, guess who they're going to come for next?
And they're going to keep going.
And then they'll go for, what else?
The Trump family?
They've already taken, what, two shots at Donald Trump or, you know, the guy tried to over here in West Palm a couple of weeks.
Literally, a couple of weeks ago, Donald Trump almost was killed.
And then a couple weeks before that, his head was almost blown off on stage.
Do you think, oh, he deserved that too?
No, you have to crack down on this stuff in every single instance that it takes place, because if you ever open it up, it doesn't stop.
And you hear this all the time.
I hear people on the right, they say, oh, you know, they'll say the Romanov family, well, they deserved it.
You know, they did World War I, and that was stupid.
And, you know, the Tsar was committing troops against the Kaiser, and it was, you know, it was just really bad.
You know, who cares?
And he forced people to be serfs, even though serfdom had actually already been outlawed at that point.
But they'll just go in on all this stuff and will never actually consider the consequences of where it leads.
It always leads to piles of skulls.
And guess what?
You think, oh, I'm cool.
I supported it.
I went in on your little, you know, anti-elite venture.
Well, guess what?
That's not going to save you when you get lined up in the trench with your family and you get the muzzle of the gun pointed at the back of your head.
Sorry, oh, well, you know, it's just another white CEO. No, like, you really need to stop and you really need to wake up and grow up right now because this stuff is incredibly serious.
Yeah, it's just...
And another thing pointed out is just...
Someone says it's just surprising the guy didn't have security.
And I would like to fight back against that, too.
I don't think we should consider it normal for everyone in America.
They did say apparently that there had been some, like...
I don't know all the details yet because it's still shaking out.
We're in the fog of crime on this.
But they said that he did actually have home security because I think there had been some threatening messages or something that had come out.
And so he had home security, but for some reason they weren't with him at this hotel.
Even then, I don't want us to turn into South Africa, where every person who has a net worth over a million dollars needs a special, dedicated, full-time, private security person.
I think that's deranged.
I don't think that's a good way to live.
And as I've warned people, if that is the way of life people end up having to live in, that is what will make people pro-gun control.
If they feel, I need to be armed at all times because it is...
Constant threat of violence against me.
That is what is going to make people say, screw it, police state, take away everyone's guns.
It's not good if tons of people are living in constant terror that they will be assassinated.
That is a path of decline.
I think we're all in agreement on this, but I would encourage everyone who's watching who disagrees to change their minds.
Because...
What else are they saying?
What else are the disagreeers saying?
I like that we can respond to the comments today.
Obviously, a lot of people are...
Yeah, we're live, by the way, so if you want to comment, please do.
Just a lot of people are saying insurers ruin people's lives.
What I will also say here...
Okay, I'm not...
It feels awkward to do this, but...
Within the grand scheme of the American healthcare system, insurers are the meat shield.
They exist to take the hate of everyone for a system that is created by a lot of people.
Like...
Hospitals inflate healthcare costs.
Doctors inflate healthcare costs.
The government inflates healthcare costs.
Pharmaceutical companies inflate healthcare costs.
Everyone inflates healthcare costs.
And if you completely got rid of the cut taken by insurance companies, took them out of the picture, and we just imagined...
There was a 0% profit on all health insurance, and that was what it was.
We would still have the most expensive healthcare system in the world, and all those procedures that you want to get would still be monstrously expensive.
And it's not that healthcare insurance companies are always great, because they do have this sinister incentive to try to deny care when they can, but...
The system itself is enormously messed up, and you would still be having to pay way too much for tons of procedures if the insurance companies didn't exist.
And I think people are afraid to confront this because they want to imagine that the American healthcare system is easy to fix.
And unfortunately, it's such a calamity that it is almost impossible to fix.
It would be like popping the world's largest tumor or something.
Can you pop a tumor?
I guess I'll just say, look, this came up when we were doing the Unhumans book so many times, and you see communists and far leftists.
It's using actual grievances over and over in order to fuel this type of revolutionary violence.
Unfortunately, you get a lot of people who will start saying, oh, well, he deserved it, and don't worry that it's happening to that guy.
I see people in the chat right now saying, It's their fault.
They chose to be victims.
Someone is saying people are treated badly and he shouldn't have done that.
Let's see.
The corruption, helplessness.
Look, number one, it is absolutely sinful.
It is completely sinful.
sinful, it is a direct violation of the Ten Commandments, and it's unquestionably, unquestionably breaking one of God's commandments to do this type of activity, as is all communism, by the way.
Then, when you go beyond that, if you're condoning it, that means you're actually condoning the breaking of a commandment.
So it's completely anti-Christian to support any of this type of activity.
That's a huge, just basic, like, one-on-one level thing.
Number two, though, for people who say, okay, this is a legitimate grievance, it is.
And that's why you have to, as a government, you have to come in and find ways to meet that grievance, find some kind of compromise to bring down whatever.
Look, we didn't have a revolution in the United States when there were communist revolutions all over the world.
Why?
Because the government did come in and institute reforms Or the working class.
They introduced the weekend.
They introduced the 40-hour work week.
There were so many things.
Fringe benefits, which became benefits, of which, by the way, health insurance was one of the things that was interesting.
I mean, Blake, from a historical perspective, you're talking about insurance companies.
The idea that your job gave you insurance is actually, in the grand scheme of things, a fairly new type of Just this facet of having employment, because this was never originally considered something, you know, a job was, here's your wage and have fun, you know, go to the hospital if there's some issue with you.
So, you know, even that, the whole system of health insurance And tying of that to the employment system was something that was brought in as one of these compromises, historically speaking, going back about 100 years ago or 80 years ago in the progressive era and then in the 1930s as well.
And again, I'm not defending any of it.
Obviously, I stand for all sorts of government reform.
Look what we just spent the entire last year doing.
This is the populist movement, after all.
You cannot condone wanton leftist revolutionary violence, which is what it does seem like this was.
In the end, chaotic violence always favors the left.
There is a reason the left has used it throughout its entire history.
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Oh my gosh, look at this.
It's not a thought crime to not be sad when evil people are murdered.
Oh my gosh, look at this.
Look at this.
I'm not defending a murder, but this is like a revolt in the chat.
You know, the chat's like rising up against us.
It's thought crime versus the thought chat.
Oh man, I've got...
This is great.
People are sharing their stories, which I don't want to discount any of those things, you know, saying insurance reviewers.
Texas Cat, 117. He's saying, insurance refused $3,000 of anesthesia on his knee.
I refused after paying $20,000 in premium and deductible.
It's a scam or a crime.
And I think, you know, big picture what you can say is...
It's definitely worrisome whenever you have a system that is making a lot of people defend violent murders.
It's what Tucker would say on his show.
He would talk a lot about, in his book, Ship of Fools, he would say, as a leader, you have a responsibility to not let the system go until it sparks a revolution.
And so...
We've very much said our piece on that murder is bad, but you definitely have to think it is a red flag if there are all these people online who are celebrating it or defending it or justifying it or at least indifferent to it.
For me, this goes back to...
I was talking to Matthew before.
He had never heard of Occupy Wall Street, Jack.
I had to look it up.
He had to look up what Occupy Wall Street was.
Just never heard of it.
I was in elementary school when this was going on.
I was in elementary school and I didn't watch the news.
I watched the news when I was in elementary school.
I always do this when someone says, so have you heard of Star Wars?
Yeah, of course.
Alright, I see where you're going.
Okay, and how old were you when Star Wars came out?
I wasn't even...
I wasn't born.
I wasn't born.
I mean, depends on what episode.
So that's not actually an argument.
Okay, go ahead.
But yeah, so...
But I did look it up.
Yeah, so you do have...
This is what I... So the thing about Occupy Wall Street was it was very cringe.
It was very bad.
It actually was a proto-element for so many very annoying things in what would be the politics of the 2010s.
But it was also just an ominous sign generally for America that you have this level of populist anger against a relative engine of American prosperity.
And similar to that, the anger at the American health insurance system is not just...
It'd be one thing if it was just a threat to the healthcare system, which is frankly mostly bad, I think.
But I think it's the sort of thing that if it's not ultimately solved, it will be what justifies just abolishing everything that makes America successful.
Like, healthcare is their Trojan horse to just say, we're going to do socialism on the entire economy.
We're going to do leveling on the entire economy.
We're going to go full Bernie Sanders, full AOC, full Green New Deal, and the justification is going to be that your health insurance company sometimes screwed you on fees.
And there is this nihilist impulse that we do have to worry about.
So what was the goal of the Occupy Wall Street?
That's a good question.
We never found out.
Really?
Part of the gimmick of it was they showed up in Wall Street.
They would say, what is our one demand?
And they didn't know.
The idea was they would gather in their sort of populist commune in Zuccotti Park and then they would decide what their one demand would be.
And they didn't get around to figuring it out before they sent in the police and cleared them out.
It was all a very entertaining spectacle.
Really?
Which I remember because I was in college when it happened and you were in third grade or something.
Somewhere around there.
You were in fifth grade?
I was in fifth grade when 9-11 happened.
I noticed 9-11.
I'm just saying.
That's what separates...
I'll tell you one, though.
I was obviously a little bit older than that, but I was alive for the LA riots, and I would have been, I guess, in second or third grade, and I didn't know anything about them until...
No, keep in mind, this is pre-internet era, so it was hard to know about history unless you had books or...
I've listened to conservative talk radio.
This is why, by the way, the conservative talk radio was so subversive because they would just simply bring up things that you wouldn't hear anywhere else.
And we still have that, but it's way more prevalent because of social media.
That back at the time, you know, there were no alternative forms of media that you would ever hear any of this stuff.
And pre-internet, it was very hard.
So I had never heard of the LA riots until I was like, in college, I want to say until, yeah, it was definitely until I was in college that I heard about it.
And I was like, I can't believe this all happened when I was a kid.
And I had no idea that it even took place.
Let's see.
Have the masses yelled at us further?
So do people understand what we're saying?
Do people understand what we're saying is, we agree.
We totally agree that there are actual issues with the healthcare system.
I'm not defending the healthcare system.
I'm not defending rich people, but I'm defending any of those things necessarily.
But I am, number one, saying that you can't just hate someone for being rich.
And number two, I'm also saying that you can't just live.
where you go in to wanton mass murder like this of people who are in cold blood, because that is the path to absolute societal destruction.
It is absolute societal destruction to continue down one of these paths.
Spanish Civil War.
In the Spanish Civil War, when the revolutionaries got power, they killed 10% of the clergy.
10% of the priests and nuns in the entire country of Spain were murdered in the Spanish Civil War when the communists took over.
So, again, guys, this is where that stuff goes.
It's Bolshevism.
It's Chairman Mao.
It's the Red Guards.
And this is what they do.
This was the metronym in our book.
This is what they do.
They find someone who is an unsympathetic target, and they say, oh, we're just going to go after them.
We're just going to do this.
But again, we're not going to use prosecution.
We're not going to use FBI.
By the way, and Blake and Matthew, how funny is it, how ironic is it that the same people who say, oh, well, we can't let Kash Patel conduct an investigation into people who have committed government wrongdoing.
But, oh, it's totally fine to just go and murder somebody on the street.
Yeah, yeah, that's very much a real thing.
The same people who will attack any, like, organized use of justice that might be reasonable, that might be under control.
Are the ones that will celebrate any unhinged form of violence, chaotic form of violence.
The left is fundamentally the party of entropy.
They benefit from chaos.
That's why 2020 worked the way it did, that you would just start tearing away elements of civilization and let people just go maximal primal destructive urges.
And then they torch Minneapolis.
They torch DC.
They torch America itself.
This is right from the prince.
Yeah.
Machia Valley writes, in order for you to be the prince or the ruler, you need to first burn the farms and then be the hero of the farms.
This is exactly what we're seeing on the ground.
You saw this with the BLM riots.
You saw this with even the LA riots.
I know that was before me, but I did do my research, right?
That's where we get the...
Going back to the Korean stuff.
Have you heard of the Ali riots?
Yeah, I have.
I have.
Okay.
We're being careful.
I've read a few books.
This guy helped us win the election.
Did you know we had elections before you were born?
You're telling me now for the very first time.
Right.
But going back to Machiavelli, he writes this, right?
And we saw this in Minneapolis.
You mentioned this, right?
Where they started rioting.
They burned down their cities, and it just so happened that the social justice warriors of the BLM movement were also the heroes in that situation.
This is straight from their playbook.
This happens time after time, but we have to be aware.
I mean, this goes back to George...
Sorry, go ahead.
We have a guy in the comments, Mel6591, says he was there at the Watts Riots.
Wow.
Lots, man.
One, that's a historically important riot.
And two, that was a while ago.
God bless you, Mel.
Blake, the peaceful 60s, right?
The peaceful, the non-violent 60s, the non-violent movement of the 1960s.
And you say, what about all this violence?
No, no, no, no, no.
That violence is separate.
Those riots, the Watts riots, or the Newark riots where they had snipers on the roof shooting people at random.
I mean, for people who think that it's okay to condone something like this, I'm just going to say, you know, again and again, this is, it leads to, again, we wrote a whole book about it.
You know, it's Christmas time, so yeah, you know, unhumansbook.com, go check it out, go read the book, and you will see.
You will see that any time, you know, look at this.
Oh, look at that.
You're defending greed.
You are defending greed, right?
No, we're actually opposing murder and we're opposing chaos and we're opposing communism.
It's possible to oppose greed without just murdering people wantonly in the streets, as it turns out.
In fact, I don't recall any time where Jesus He called for us to just go and rise up and start murdering people for being greedy.
In fact, no.
He requires us to go and try to pray for them, to try to work on them, to convert them, to get them to see the error of their ways.
Yeah, maybe drive them out of the temple or something like that.
But you'd be hard-pressed to find any example of Jesus Christ condoning murder anywhere in the New Testament.
It is simply, again, it's just completely un-Christian.
It is, in fact, the antithesis of Christianity.
Amen.
Amen.
Do we have anything else we want to say on this?
Do we want to go around the horn on Doge or on Bitcoin?
I think we have 12 minutes left before Jack has to evacuate by helicopter.
I do, yeah.
What do you prefer, Jack?
You get to pick.
Or you can pick something entirely unrelated.
Or we can just keep arguing with the thought crime chat.
I love this.
The chat's going, man.
The chat is going.
Look at this.
Read about the French Revolution, the murder of the Hawkeye 102. Read about the French Revolution, murder of aristocrats.
Some of them for themselves was conducted gleefully.
Yeah, Blake, you know that.
For anyone who wants to read more, the book is Unhumans, or you could go, Blake and I did a whole podcast series on this right around this time last year regarding, and we had a whole episode on the French Revolution, and it was horrific.
The French Revolution and the reign of terror of Robespierre, when the Jacobin Club basically took power of the state there, it didn't end with King Louis and Marie Antoinette.
Remember, by the way, Marie Antoinette was murdered simply for being married to They decided that to be the king was a betrayal of the French people, and therefore he was murdered for being the king, and she was murdered for participating in that by being married to the king.
And no, the quote about let them eat cake was never actually uttered.
It wasn't uttered by her.
It was uttered by her opponents.
And this kept going.
The guillotine kept swinging down until the very last one was the nun, the Sisters of Copenhagen, this group of, I think, 12 nuns who lived in a cloister who refused to renounce their vows.
And even they were executed right in the center of Paris, where, by the way, President Trump is going to be traveling this weekend, because that's another example of the French Revolution, by the way, because the Notre Dame Cathedral was, yeah, we know it was burned in 2019.
But did you know that it was also raised during the French Revolution?
And And the 12 statues on the facade of it, the 12 kings of Israel were smashed by the revolutionaries, the stained glass windows, many of them were smashed as well.
And in fact, the cathedral itself was deconsecrated and it was turned into a temple of reason by the cult of reason, the sort of atheist, science-based ideology.
But that doesn't sound like anything that's going on anywhere today, right, guys?
Jack, we have a very important counterpoint that was brought up by someone in the chat.
Let's go.
Individual thinker mentions, why is it illegal to fly over North Pole or to go to Antarctica?
What do you have to say to that, Jack?
Look, I'm just going to say, if there's any Santa deniers that want to step to me in the next 20 days, you're going to get the horns, right?
There won't be no Santa denial going on.
It is illegal to fly over the North Pole specifically and Antarctica, which of course is part of his flight route, because you would be disrupting Santa Claus and his North Pole Christmastime operations.
And if you were to do so, then in that case, I would support prosecution, absolutely, and incarceration.
You know younger people, they aren't denying Santa over there, are they?
There are a few, unfortunately.
There are a few.
We need to talk to Tyler about this.
This is a big problem.
This is actually a question that I've been asking candidates who come in through the transition process for the Trump administration.
What are your thoughts on Santa Claus and Santa deniers?
Straight, straight out the door.
Straight out the door.
And it's a great limits test.
Get them all out.
Out the door.
Out the sleigh.
I think Buddy the Elf said it the best.
The best way to spread the Christmas cheer is to sing out loud for all to hear.
I actually only saw that movie for the first time recently.
No way.
I'm the same way, actually.
I saw it for the first time last year.
Is that the most recent Christmas movie that's like a canonical Christmas movie?
Do you like Home Alone?
Home Alone is my personal favorite.
Or Elf?
Yeah, Home Alone is great.
Home Alone is definitely better than Elf.
Really?
Elf is cute, but Home Alone has a lot of emotional oomph to it.
You got President Trump in the Elf.
By the way, my kids like Home Alone better too.
Yeah.
The Wet Bandits would support CEO assassination.
That's what our audience should keep in mind.
And Sticky Bandits will do.
People are voting Elf in the chat.
I'm a little surprised.
I think Home Alone's really good.
I don't feel like Elf has anything comparable to like...
It's Sean Hughes.
I'm sorry.
No.
Yeah, and like meeting the dad who's estranged from his son in the church.
I don't think Elf has anything quite like that.
By the way, Home Alone...
Also is one of the last movies that you can see, maybe not last, but it certainly is towards the end of movies that were huge These were just inserted into movies that were non-religious movies.
But the idea that a main character or...
There's a whole subplot!
There's a whole subplot that revolves around the next-door neighbor going to see his granddaughter who's estranged.
Well, the son is estranged, and he wants to go see her at the church, and he goes there.
And this is just something that's been totally excised from all of mainstream media, particularly Hollywood media, the idea of a character just going to church on a regular basis.
And don't tell me for a second that that hasn't had an effect on the broader society, because I absolutely believe that it has.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And John Hughes was just a great American.
I think he's not he's not fully appreciated for that.
Just being like an earnest pro-American, like all pro all of the good things in America, you know, civic Christianity, patriotism.
I will never forget how in Uncle Buck, you can tell that Uncle Buck is a somewhat disreputable character because he comes home and he has a bag that's for the Chicago Democratic Party.
That's how you know not everything is quite right with him.
Great guy.
Recommend all of his movies.
But yeah, Home Alone is probably my personal favorite.
Obviously, there's the old classics.
You'll see people say Christmas Story a lot.
I think I'm a bit over a Christmas Story.
That might be because it's on 24 hours a day every Christmas.
I love Christmas Story.
That just gets really tedious after the third or fourth time.
And the new one, they did a sequel to it.
They did a sequel where Ralphie is grown up.
And so he's the dad, and then it's with his kids.
And almost the entire cast returns, at least the surviving cast.
And they actually...
For movies like that, which are usually horrible, this one was actually pretty good.
Does your generation still watch A Christmas Story?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
That's a Christmas classic.
I'm glad you are going, I've never heard of that one.
What's a movie?
I think it's hilarious.
I just think it's hilarious.
I think it's so funny.
Is there any new Christmas movie?
Is there something that's come out in the last 10 years that young people like?
It's all secular, unfortunately.
All the new Christmas movies.
But the classics, at least, have that Christ element to things.
They actually talk about why we celebrate Christmas.
The purpose of it.
Yeah.
Right?
Man.
And just remember, guys.
Polar Express.
I kind of tried.
That one was a little weird.
I'm looking at Christmas movies now.
Actually, for anyone who's got kids or grandkids, there is a movie that came out.
Yeah, I just found this for my kids.
A couple years ago.
It is an animated film, and it's called The Star.
And the main character is the donkey from the actual nativity story.
So it's the donkey that Mary rides on to Bethlehem.
And it's this animated film of the nativity story, but told from the perspective of the animals.
And so it's like, it's kind of cool and it's great for little kids and it's just really well done.
It's obviously full on Christian and it's, it's got a really randomly incredible cast.
It's got like Kelly Clarkson, Keegan-Michael Key is in there from like, uh, uh, uh, uh, Jordan Peele and, uh, Well, Zachary Levi is in there, who, by the way, just recently came out as a big Trump supporter.
Chris Sunferson is in there.
Mariah Carey's in there.
Tyler Perry.
Even Oprah is in there.
So it's just Kristen Chenoweth from the original Wicked.
It's so bizarre that this movie came out and is, like, unapologetically Christian, and it has a really strong Hollywood cast.
And it's just a great movie.
We have all the people in the comments are saying that Die Hard is a Christmas movie.
Did we debate this a week or two ago?
I don't want to rehash it if we did.
We mention it and look, it's very played out as a meme.
It's definitely a dead meme.
It's very 2018 and honestly it's like It's just something that it's like, I don't know, like some people have found it recently and they're like, oh yeah, it's so cool.
It was funny like the first time someone said like, actually, Die Hard's a Christmas movie.
And you're like, oh, it takes place on Christmas.
But no, it is not a Christmas movie.
It is a movie that takes place during Christmas.
No, it's really not.
Important distinction.
It's really not.
Is Batman Return the Christmas movie?
Yeah, it didn't come out during Christmas.
It doesn't have important Christmas themes.
It's just a movie where Christmas is occurring in the background.
It's just a setting.
That's why there's a party at the building.
That's the only reason for it.
And then they play Let It Snow at the end because it's funny.
It could be at any other time of year and still be the same exact story, and therefore it doesn't pass the Christmas text.
Related to that, are we all taking part in Whamageddon this year?
Whamageddon.
Whamageddon is where you try to go all of December without hearing the song Last Christmas by Wham, which is a useful thing to do because Last Christmas isn't a Christmas song.
You could just change every use of the word Christmas in that song to Tuesday.
It's a heartbreak song.
You could just change the word Christmas to Tuesday, and it would be the same song.
Like, last Tuesday I gave you my heart, and then the next day you gave it away.
Same thing.
No, no, no.
No Christmas stuff at all.
Last Christmas is definitely a Christmas theme.
No, it's a Christmas song because, number one, it has the word Christmas in there, and as a song, it is evoking the emotion of Christmas.
Christmas is an incredibly emotional time.
And so, you know, last Christmas I gave you...
I gave you my heart for Christmas.
That is the giving of gifts.
Gift giving, of course, an important Christian tradition to celebrate the birth of Christ.
Is it an American song?
The very next day they gave it away, which means they gave it away on Boxing Day.
Is it an anti-boxing day?
Well, they were British, right?
George Michael's British, so I don't know.
Is he British-Canadian?
Australian.
Boxing Day is Australian.
And British.
British definitely has Boxing Day, too.
Canada, too?
I think all of the, like, limey countries have...
It was like a common...
Well, there you go, then.
There is a line in here that says, Happy Christmas.
Happy Christmas?
Yeah, Happy Christmas.
Not Merry Christmas, but Happy Christmas.
Okay, that's definitely pretty British.
Wait, Blake.
So here's...
So the one interesting thing for me when it comes to...
The Die Hard debate is, so, you know, I was getting way down the weeds on this a couple years ago, and I was saying, look, it's not central to plot, and it has all, you know, it's just right there.
It just happens to take place around Christmas.
And then someone threw back at me, they said, well, what about the movie White Christmas then?
Wouldn't the movie White Christmas also not actually fall into that as well?
Because it has to do with a hotel and some World War II veterans and all of this.
World War II was a Korean War.
What year was it?
50 to 53. Yeah, but it's when the movie was set.
That I don't know.
And so, anyway, point being is, you know, does that actually constitute a Christmas movie by that same test?
Yeah, you know, I know you have a hard out here, Jack.
I want to just...
Yeah, I just want to cite Michael says...
Michael says apparently the hip new Christmas movie is Violent Night, which is John Wick with Santa, and the theme is Getting Home for Christmas.
I haven't seen it.
I haven't seen that either.
I worry that after what we just said, it might be against the spirit of Christmas to watch a Christmas movie about that, but...
Yeah, there's a bunch of these, like, I do watch, like, I watch the new crop of Christmas movies every year, and just because there are popular Christmas movies that come out that don't necessarily make them It's a Wonderful Life.
That will be watched every year in my house.
There's no question.
It is, in my mind, by far, the best Christmas movie.
And really strikes a heart of what we were talking about earlier.
By the way, I will also point out that in It's a Wonderful Life, oh, here we go.
I just figured it out.
This is how I'm going to tie together the whole thing.
In It's a Wonderful Life, Why doesn't Jimmy Stewart, why doesn't George Bailey just murder Mr. Potter?
Why doesn't he just shoot him in the street?
Why doesn't he just take that wheelchair and push him off the bridge into the water?
Wouldn't Clarence the Angel love that?
Yeah, that's a good point, Jack.
Would you want George Bailey to do that?
He would be screwed in England.
Yeah, I bet he exploited at least as many people as the UnitedHealthcare allegedly possibly did.
And I don't know the movie that he was exploiting and he was taking people's houses away and he was, you know, foreclosing and that he was turning them all.
And then in, by the way, in the dystopian version, of course, he turned the entire place into what?
Gambling, drugs, alcohol, sex.
And in the dystopian version, I'll never forget this, that Mary, who I believe is, I guess, you know, in her like 30s.
Right.
if you understand, Blake, you know where I'm going with this.
Mary is in her 30s in the dystopian version, and he says, where's Mary, Clarence?
Where's Mary?
Show me Mary!
And he goes, no, George, you don't want to see that.
She's closing up the library, George.
She never married.
She's a spinster.
She's a spinster, George.
She's a cat lady, George.
She's an unmarried cat lady.
He goes, what?
No!
And this is what causes him to psychologically break.
Like, his brother being dead didn't shatter him.
His town looking like it's, you know, 2024 America didn't shatter him.
And the ship that his brother saved in the war, all the sailors were killed.
None of that mattered nearly as much as his wife becoming a cat lady.
As Mary being a cat lady at a library.
And by the way, so in the 1940s when that movie came out, everyone understood that there was something wrong with that and that should not happen.
Okay, now we're getting in real trouble right now.
But I will say that J.D. Vance, if you look at the exit polls, did you see that poll that was going around of pet owners?
And it was like every single pet owner demographic went for Trump except for one.
And which one was that?
I think we know, Jack.
I think we know.
Did he say that in an interview with Charlie?
I feel like it was.
It was either Charlie or Tucker.
I can't remember at this point.
I think it was Charlie.
Ah, classic.
Good times.
Good times.
Do you have a hard out, Jack?
Um, no.
Well, I thought I was, but I can do like 10 more minutes.
Alrighty, alrighty.
Oh, this is great.
Yeah, I'm loving this chat right now.
People are men with turbles.
Eww.
Life of Brian is not a Christmas movie.
No, Life of Brian is not a Christmas movie.
Life of Brian is hilarious.
Life of Brian by Monty Python is amazing.
I'm sure Matthew has no idea.
Matthew, do you know what Life of Brian is?
Love is Blind?
I'm sorry.
Life of Brian?
Have you heard of that movie?
No.
He hasn't heard of Life of Brian.
When did that come out?
Here, I'll look it up.
Before I was blind.
Have you heard of Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
Of course, of course.
Okay, he's heard of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
So it's another Monty Python movie about...
It's about a...
Yeah, exactly.
Just lived a cloistered life.
So, shelter childhood.
So, Life of Brian is a movie where this guy is born in a similar way to Jesus, and in a similar place and time as Jesus, but is not actually Jesus, and keeps getting accidentally mistaken for Jesus.
Someone says their favorite Christmas movie of the last 10 years is Fat Man starring Mel Gibson, which I have never heard of, but it does honestly look pretty remarkable.
it is an unorthodox slant on holiday traditions that follows a jaded gritty santa claus played by mel gibson who struggles with ennui production issues government interference and an embittered assassin sent by a vengeful naughty child the film received mixed reviews i'm just seeing the By the way, is Gremlins a Christmas movie?
Because he gets the Gremlins for Christmas.
Does it otherwise have Christmas themes?
Okay, I'll confess, I've never seen Gremlins.
No, it doesn't.
But it is the beginning of the movie that he receives the first gremlin as a Christmas present.
Someone says Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
That is a Thanksgiving movie, as we discussed.
That's like the only Thanksgiving movie ever made, other than that crappy slasher movie.
What about Charlie Browne?
That's not like a theatrical movie, that's a television special.
It's totally different.
There are a lot of television specials about Thanksgiving.
Yeah, so in the last 10 years, you either get, the last 10 years or so of Christmas movies, you either get a Hallmark kind of Christmas movie, or you get this gritty kind of Christmas movie.
By the way, I will say that I am unabashedly supportive of all Hallmark movies.
I love Hallmark movies.
I think they're fantastic.
I think they're wonderful.
I don't care that it's the same plot every time.
That's not the point.
The point is that's the world we're fighting for.
That's the world that, you know, imagine if you could just live in one of those worlds where all you had to worry about was, oh, the town Christmas party needs a fundraiser to save the old inn or something, and you've got this wonderful community where people join together and then,
you know, Sarah is back from the big city, and she's still single because she's working so hard, and then she meets the guy who runs the inn, and they fall in love, and off you go, and it's like, that's the world we're fighting for, and that's why I like Hallmark movies.
What's the better Hallmark movie, where the man from Business City learns how to let go and reacquaint himself with rural life, or the woman who's gone to the big city?
Because we have both versions.
Is it better when the woman learns to, like, go small town life or when the guy is, like, hooked by a cute girl next door type in the small town?
City to rule.
I think that's the better story.
But who should be going from the city to the rural?
Guy or girl?
Which one has the...
I think the guy.
The guy going to the role part, right?
Because there's a sense of retaining all this masculinity kind of traits of helping out the city or the town, carrying trees, right?
Chopping down trees.
I like that sense of movies.
Bringing that back.
I just don't like the softness.
I take the opposite route.
I think it's the ones that are sort of, you know, most media out there promotes the girl boss lifestyle and promotes the sex in the city lifestyle.
And it's like, the career woman, you've got to do this, and you've got to eschew childhood.
And this is, by the way, where you get the Childless Cat Ladies from.
And instead, you have these great Hallmark movies that come out every year that are like, hey, there's more to life than that.
And there's good things that you're passing up on.
And that doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with that.
But maybe Christmas means just a little bit of life.
But does it maybe set up a misleading expectation where you could be a girl boss and then you just go on a vacation and, like, whoop, swept off your feet and you still get your, like, whirlwind romance?
Whereas if it's the man in Business City having that happen, it is mostly women who watch these movies.
Then you are communicating, really, like, this is actually what men find most desirable, like, these traits, like, of the girl next door, small town girl...
You might be sending a more useful message to them, whereas if it's the girlboss-ungirlbossing, it might sort of fly over their head, and they'll just think, wow, I can hook this amazing small-town guy after I've done my career stint in the big city.
You could interpret it either way.
That's like the Taylor Swift-Travis Kelsey thing.
Right?
Like, Taylor Swift is like, oh, I dated all these guys, and, you know, I put off marriage, but I still ended up with, you know, Super Bowl champion.
Yeah, we have Thor.
Thor Colonel says, Girlboss returns to her hometown to take care of her sick father and falls in love and leaves her career behind is 75% of Hallmark movies.
Admittedly, I don't watch these movies.
I hope they're actually like this.
Once you've seen one, you don't need to see the others.
They're all the same, just different names.
Yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
Over and over and over.
By the way, they do have some that are actually kind of cool because they're like, you know, they go and film on location.
So they go show you like, like we just watched one.
We actually literally, Tanya and I just watched one the other day where they were doing a river cruise down the Danube, which Blake, you would like that.
And they go and visit like different cities and castles along The only issue is that, so the guy, of course, is secretly a prince, of course, but it's like a fake country.
It's sort of like a stand-in to LinkedIn stocking.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Now we're going to have work, Mr. The Cause of all the problems in Europe for the last 150 years.
Okay, okay.
No, those are cool.
Ah!
Someone just put it out in the chat.
Royal Holiday.
That's right.
It's Royal Holiday.
That's what it was.
One royal holiday.
The Netflix Hallmark knockoff, A Christmas Prince, was really funny.
Because they have, like, it takes place in, like, an entire Christmas-themed country called, like, Aldovia.
Look at this.
Look at that.
Look.
Thor journal is with me.
I'm with Jack on this.
When I was caring for my grandma in hospice, she left it on Hallmark and all the movies were low-key grade.
Yeah, they are.
Because what it is is, like, yeah, it's tame.
I get it.
But it's, like...
There's so much garbage out there anymore that you just turn on a Hallmark movie and you're like, oh yeah, this is what life used to be like.
Hey, I'm hitting my heart out, guys, so I do have to cut it short here.
You guys can feel free to keep going, but I do have to bounce.
No, I think we can just head it out and close it out now, but thanks for coming on.
Thank you.
We were shorthanded, and we'll see everyone.
This is a fun episode.
Do you have social...
Matthew, do you have social...
Yeah, I do.
Wait, wait, wait.
I was going to say, do you have social media for people to go by?
I do.
It's universally on all platforms.
MC Martinez.
MC Martinez AZ as in Arizona.
And I also just downloaded Blue Sky.
So you'll see me start ripping.
I'm posting a lot of Republican stuff on there.
I want to see how long I can stay on Blue Sky without being kicked off.
By the way, guys, Matthew did a ton of work with Turning Point Action.
He really did.
I remember going to visit over there when Tyler was, you know, just kind of cracking the whip.
And he was like, Matthew, get back to work.
Get back to the whiteboards.
The whiteboards need updating.
You're like, Tyler, please let me eat, please.
It's been days.
And he's like, no!
No!
But no, you did an incredible job over there and crunching all the numbers.
And I know we weren't really doing, you know, we'll have to do like a separate episode where we kind of like explain all of that.
Thank you, Jack.
No!
No!
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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