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Sweet Home Chicago.
Are we allowed to play the Sweet Home Chicago music without getting sued?
Who knows?
Well, William J. Kelly is doing amazing work finding out the corruption in Chicago.
Look, I could talk about Chicago all day long.
That's not a tough lift.
We're live right now on AM560 The Answer.
Hello, if you're listening on AM560 The Answer.
God bless you and stay warm.
I love Chicago.
Chicago is facing nearly a billion-dollar shortfall.
They've spent nearly half a billion on illegals.
And Chicago Marxist Mayor Brandon Johnson is digging in his heels to fight Trump's deportation efforts.
Now, obviously, clowns like Mayor Johnson just faced a major legal setback after the Ninth Circuit rules that the feds can overrule local officials and deport illegals.
But Brandon Johnson has other more glaring issues and crises.
What have you uncovered, William J. Kelly?
And welcome back to the program.
God bless you, Charlie.
Thank you for having me.
Caveat, disclaimer, standard disclaimer, I love Chicago with all my heart.
I'm not...
Born and raised on the south side of Chicago, of all places.
Make your judgments if you must.
But it breaks my heart to see what's happening in Chicago, and that's why I have been investigating these incompetent and corrupt politicians.
They're destroying Chicago, and they have been for years.
Go back to the lockdown, the looting.
But this migrant crisis has really been the straw that has broken, I believe, Chicago's back and budget, by the way.
And the people of Chicago have woken up to this.
I hear it all the time from people who say that they don't want Brandon Johnson raising their taxes, by the way, to pay for his Permanent migrant resettlement.
This is his priority for his administration, Charlie.
And I believe that Chicago should be made the example of the Trump and the Tom Homan border security deportation plan.
As you correctly mentioned, even the mayor of New York is saying that he has finally come to realize that these illegal migrants, call them what you want, are not only bankrupting cities, but terrorizing the citizens.
And our mayor, Bernie Johnson, says, and by the way, our governor, J.B. Pritzker, who has presidential ambitions to run for president of the United States four years from now, say that they are going to stand in the way of Trump and Holman, Charlie. say that they are going to stand in the way It's just remarkable to me.
So let's dive deeper into that.
So let's go into the psychology of Marxist Mayor Johnson.
Do you actually think he would stand up to the feds and get arrested by Tom Holman?
Do you think he's that tough?
Do you think he has that kind of grittiness to him?
Well, you know, up until now, other than me, a reporter, nobody's really challenged him on anything.
You know, I go to city council.
I ask questions.
He actually uses his security detail to try to prevent me from asking questions.
It seems like it's the only reason he even has security.
I think he has about...
200 sworn Chicago police officers protecting him and his wife, Stacey, by the way, who just remodeled an office for herself at the Chicago Cultural Center.
Nobody even has ever met her.
They don't know what she's doing there, but they're spending taxpayer money hand over fist.
I called out his $300 million property tax increase as a migrant tax.
Because that's to the penny what he wants, what he has already spent on migrants.
And it really was a catalyst for Chicagoans to go to City Hall to protest this.
And he was forced to back off his property tax.
But now, get this, Charlie, he wants to raise liquor tax, which is really just a tax on the working man to pay for his migrant camp, his migrant dreams, his migrant ambitions.
He thinks that he's going to be a hero.
And by the way, so does J.B. Pritzker, who somehow...
Keeps getting forgotten in this conversation.
I think that this recent Supreme Court decision has now made it pretty clear that the feds can come to sanctuary cities like Chicago and sanctuary states like Illinois, by the way.
And that's a very important caveat that we can discuss.
Today or tomorrow or another time if you want.
But the fact of the matter is it's a federal crime.
And I think that Tom Holman should definitely kick in some doors and take out some violent repeat offenders.
We just had a mass shooting.
It's a daily occurrence in Chicago, right?
War zone.
We had Venezuelan migrants.
They're in a neighborhood called Gage Park in Section 8 housing, and they shot the place up.
It was alleged that they were using it as a house of prostitution, people coming in and out all hours of the night, blaring music.
And sure enough, surprise, they shot the place up.
Eight people shot, three fatalities as of now.
And, you know, we need Trump and Holman to make an example of Chicago.
I believe that they could very easily kick in the door, take out some very violent repeat offenders.
But, Charlie, if you can help, if you can do this, I don't know who can do this.
If you can help us get Congress in the new administration to do a federal herring into the spending, I believe that the feds might kick in a few doors of some very corrupt politicians.
You also have some reporting on a sex scandal and the subsequent cover-up.
Tell us about that.
Well, you know, as we've learned from journalism class over and over and over again, sometimes the cover-up is worse than the crime, right?
I've been treated to listening to Mayor Johnson call President Trump a racist, a sexist.
He's compared him to Hitler.
He said that this deportation reminds him of gas chambers and, you know, just the plan to deport.
Violent repeat offenders, not to mention, you know, and yet his Best friend, his press secretary, a guy named Ronnie Reese, was fired for...
Allegations, again, of racism, anti-Semitism, and of sexual misconduct.
There were numerous sexual misconduct claims against him, and he was fired.
So I asked the mayor, I've attempted to ask him this and many other things, and if you look at At William J. Kelly on X, you'll see the often humorous attempts that I've made that I've asked him, what did you know?
When did you know it?
And he claims that he didn't know anything about it.
Well, you know, my question to him is, As early as recently as yesterday, is if it turns out that you lied to the people of Chicago, and you did know about this, these real, you know, allegations, disturbing allegations against your best friend, Ronnie Reese, who was fired, okay?
Then will you resign?
If it turns out that you lied...
Let's play cut 89 really quick.
Let's play cut 89. Stay right there.
Kennedy, quick question.
There have been reports, a number of reports, of somebody going to the fifth floor to demand a paternity test.
Oh, excuse me.
That's inappropriate.
Oh, okay.
You can leave.
Oh, okay.
Very good.
I didn't know that.
I thought that they were city...
It's inappropriate.
Well, then may I ask you a question?
Okay.
Walk us through that 30 seconds.
What's going on in that video?
Well, that 30 seconds is essentially every time I go to City Hall.
You know, my experience, Charlie, is I go to City Hall as a reporter.
To ask questions.
That's my job.
And sadly, not only do I not get direct answers from the mayor or any members of his staff, but they literally run away when they see me.
When I ask them a question or even ask them if I can ask them a question, I'm trying.
I'm bending over backwards to be polite because, as you may recall, Lori Lightfoot revoked my media credential.
I was in federal court trying to get it back for over a year.
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William J. Kelly, really quick wrap up your work in Chicago, how people can follow you.
I didn't mean to cut you off.
One minute.
God bless you, brother.
Yeah, reporterwilliamjkelly.com is the website.
There is a GoFundMe there for a legal defense fund because just like with Lightfoot revoking my media credential, Mayor Johnson is definitely looking for any excuse to get me out of City Hall.
Any money that is raised that doesn't go to legal defense will go to Audit the Mayor because we have a massive investigation that I believe needs I'm hoping that Senator Ted Cruz or someone's going to give us a call.
We have unbelievable information, not only about the use of potential COVID funds at the airport for migrants, but other unfathomable, either incompetent and or corrupt misuse of money that could result in not only Tom Holman kicking down the doors of violent,
repeat, illegal William Kelly, thank you so much.
Really appreciate it.
God bless you.
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There is a major Supreme Court hearing happening right now where they are going to decide, hopefully, the legal future of the medical mutilation of children.
Is it okay to be able, is it constitutional to be able to chop off the breasts of an eight-year-old?
Now, I don't know all the legal technicalities and details, to be perfectly honest with you.
But that is the essence of what is happening here.
Blake is putting something in our chat of exactly all of it.
It's not merely that.
Is it constitutional to ban mutilating kids?
Got it.
So, can you ban the mutilation of children?
This should be a win, but I could see Gorsuch screwing us on this, I'll be honest.
I could see Gorsuch coming up with some weird, goofy thing.
I like Gorsuch a lot, but he just has a tendency to find on issues like this, he really messed up a prior trans ruling, if I'm not mistaken.
I think I'm right.
Blake can correct me if I'm wrong.
He really messed up a trans thing recently that was Kavanaugh did.
I'm sorry.
Was it Kavanaugh?
Gorsuch messed up some immigration thing.
Gorsuch messed up an immigration thing.
Kavanaugh messed up a trans thing.
Yeah, yeah.
So I hope I'm wrong.
And I hope Amy Coney Barrett holds the line.
I think...
And then Gorsuch messed up the Oklahoma Indian thing, which is a disaster in Oklahoma right now.
But the Supreme Court has been terrific, large in part.
Nine out of ten times, the Supreme Court is great.
So here is the essence of it.
Will we stand up and say you cannot medically terrorize our children?
This is child abuse.
To medically terrorize our children.
That is what is going to be decided in front of the United States Supreme Court.
Katanji Brown Jackson is literally comparing this to interracial marriage.
I mean, that's the left.
Again, she's not a smart person.
She never has been.
The Supreme Court is weighing a ban on puberty blockers, hormones for trans teens.
That's quite spin, Washington Post.
What they're saying is, is it okay to protect children from chemical castration?
The Supreme Court's case centers on Tennessee's ban on puberty blockers and hormone treatments, which trans patients call life-saving and the state made illegal.
Life-saving, right.
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Joining us now is the Attorney General of South Carolina, Alan Wilson.
Great to see you, Alan.
Alan, what is your take legally on the prohibition of the castration of children, this case that is currently being heard in front of the U.S. Supreme Court?
Well, first, Charlie, thank you for having me on your show.
It was great to see you a few weeks ago down at Mar-a-Lago, and we appreciate all the work that you're doing.
First off, I'm involved in this because I'm one of 25 states that has passed a law similar to that of Tennessee.
So what happens in the Supreme Court on this decision impacts South Carolina.
As you know, Charlie, states have a general police power.
Inherent in that police power is the ability to regulate various professions, in this case, The medical profession.
We have police powers to pass laws that protect generally the welfare and health care of children.
States have passed laws that restrict when a child can purchase alcohol or purchase tobacco.
States have passed laws on the ages that children can sit in the front seat of a car or children can buy pornographic materials.
I mean, there's all kinds of restrictions that are placed on children that the states have deemed are important for society of that state.
And in this particular case, Various states, 25 states in this case, including Tennessee, have passed laws that put restrictions on basically what you called, and I agree with you, gender mutilation and chemical castration of children as minors.
We basically determined that it is not a good thing for children as young as 6, 10, 12 years old to make life decisions that they may come to regret where they chemically castrate or mutilate their genitalia.
And so we passed these laws.
There are obviously the plaintiffs have sued to basically ask the Supreme Court to raise the level of scrutiny so high that states would not be able to pass these types of laws because they allege that it violates equal protection clause.
Of the 14th Amendment, which we vehemently disagree with.
But again, if states can pass a law that would restrict what age a child can buy cigarettes or alcohol, but we can't restrict when a child can perform an irreversible surgery or a procedure, then the states have had their police powers completely gutted because of a radical leftist woke agenda.
Yeah, and so let's just strongman or steelman the other side.
So if I had somebody on this show that is arguing against you, what is their argument?
I can't even think of it.
It's very difficult.
And as a lawyer, you have to have both sides.
So what is the case?
I mean, do your best, please, to tell the audience what you are arguing against.
Okay, well, I feel like I need to go into character here.
As a lawyer, you got to do that, though.
You do.
You have to play devil's advocate and argue against yourself at times.
What they would say and what they argue today in the Supreme Court and what they argue in their briefings is that you're treating the sexes differently.
In this particular case, they would say if a biological boy wants to transition to being a girl and that boy wants to take estrogen to help them become a girl, And then there's another girl who wants to take estrogen.
You would prohibit the boy from getting estrogen, but you wouldn't prohibit the girl from getting estrogen if she wanted estrogen because she were not feminine enough, or vice versa.
If there was a girl who wanted to take testosterone because she wanted to transition, you'd be treating her differently than a boy who wanted to take testosterone because maybe he was going into some, but he was lagging in puberty or because his voice wasn't deep enough.
So basically they're saying you're treating people differently based on their sex.
But the argument that the Solicitor General Tennessee made I thought was excellent.
I mean, he was basically saying we use morphine to limit people's pain.
We also use morphine for assisted suicide.
You know, giving a drug to someone in the context of that drug could have a negative impact on them.
Giving a boy who wants to work, has an issue with, for instance, he's developing breast or something, and he doesn't want to have that.
Giving him a testosterone for the medical purpose of helping him...
You know, not have breasts is one thing.
Giving it to a girl that could have irreversible harmful effects to her in the long term is a completely different thing.
It'd be like giving morphine to an assisted suicide cases.
So that's the equal protection argument that they are making, that you're treating the sexes differently.
Frankly, in my opinion, you're treating the sexes the same.
You're basically prohibiting both sexes from potentially engaging in harmful behaviors or harmful surgeries That they can certainly elect to do when they turn 18 years of age, but you're prohibiting both sexes from engaging those type of behaviors.
Another thing, Charlie, I think is important is that the science of gender transition are all over the map.
There is an active debate.
I mean, you have Norway, Sweden, the UK, Chile.
You have all these countries.
You have 25 states that have restricted this because The science says one thing.
You have other countries and other states who argue that it helps prevent suicidal ideation in teenagers.
The problem is suicidal ideation, if you do longitudinal studies, goes on for years and possibly decades after the transition surgeries.
We just don't have enough information to say that these gender-affirming care that they're receiving are actually going to do what people purport that they will do.
So, let's play a piece of tape here.
This is Katanji Brown Jackson.
Banning trans surgeries for minors is like banning interracial marriage?
Play cut 88. You know, as I read the statute here, excuse me, the case here, you know, the court starts off by saying that Virginia is now one of 16 states which prohibit and punish marriages on the basis Of racial classifications.
And when you look at the structure of that law, it looks in terms of, you know, you can't do something that is inconsistent with your own characteristics.
It's sort of the same thing.
So it's interesting to me that we now have this different argument, and I wonder whether Virginia could have gotten away with what they did here by just making a classification argument the way that Tennessee is in this case.
This is an outrageous argument, in my opinion, from a Supreme Court justice.
I know you have to be careful because you have cases in front of the Supreme Court.
So answer it how you wish.
But what do you have to say to the categorization that this is even in the same ballgame of the prohibition on interracial marriage?
I think it's horrible that you would even conflate those two cases and the intent behind them.
I mean, obviously, 60 years ago, there were laws that were with a discriminatory intent to basically treat the races differently.
That was the intent.
This is a case in which the local governments, the state governments, are intending to protect children from possible irreversible Irreversible and harmful effects.
So these are completely two different things, two different points of view.
It was a conflation that I could barely follow.
It did not make sense to me.
Yeah, it's rather bizarre.
So let's now broaden this.
What other cases have you been working on, Alan, and what are you most excited about to kind of see the Trump administration do from a reformation of lawfare and legal standpoint?
Well, first off, my very dear friend, who I absolutely adore, Pam Bondi, being selected as the new United States Attorney General, at least nominated.
I am so excited about that.
Cash Pit's Tale at the FBI. These are tremendous people that I have a lot of respect for, that I have great relationships with.
Kristi Noem at DHS. I mean, the list goes on and on and on.
People that I know firsthand will go in and they will disrupt the establishment of that federal bureaucracy.
They're going to go in there and they're going to dismantle those aspects and return those agencies to what their original mandate was.
So I'm incredibly excited about what President-elect Trump has done, the people he's nominated for these particular positions.
And I'm looking forward to having a good working relationship for once with the Department of Justice.
So I'm very excited about that.
Again, there's a lot of issues going on, Charlie.
Obviously, there's issues we've got going on with social media.
There's issues we have going on with...
First Amendment.
I mean, we have a case right now that we're in Amica State on in which school districts around the country are trying to prohibit a kid from wearing a t-shirt saying there are only two genders, yet they're allowed, other people with opposing viewpoints are allowed to wear their garments in school.
You've got school districts that are passing rules that say if you misgender someone, even if it's on a Saturday and you're at the local mall and you're not on school grounds, you can be punished when you return to school.
I mean, those types of things are going on, things that infringe on parental rights, the right of parents to know what's going on in their child's education.
So we're very dialed in on those types of issues.
Obviously, I'm incredibly focused on what's going on at the southern border.
I visited the southern border back in August.
The fentanyl trafficking, as you've covered in the past, there are currently 300,000 minor, unaccompanied minors that cross the border.
We don't know where they are.
We seized at the beginning of January of last year enough fentanyl to kill 500,000 people in South Carolina.
It all came from Mexico in coordination with the Mexican drug cartels, the gangs, and the Chinese government that were manufacturing it and sending it over to the Mexico-Texas border.
It's finding its way into states like South Carolina.
So these are issues that I'm very focused on.
I'm very concerned about.
And these are things that we're going to be focused on now that we have partners at the federal level.
I think things will go a lot better, especially with local law enforcement helping support immigration laws.
I love all of that.
In closing here, Attorney General Wilson, you've been working on a lot of these cases.
Just so our audience understands, if you have pending litigation with the federal government and a new administration comes in, how does that work?
Is it a settlement usually then?
How does that work if there's a new administration and you have pending cases against a prior one?
Well, obviously, the Department of Justice doesn't have to defend the case that a previous administration is either defending or attacking.
They can withdraw, they can rescind, they can consent.
And so that is one thing that might be good.
Sometimes, though, when you feel like you have a good case, right now there's a case before the Supreme Court that challenges the jurisprudence of US v.
Arizona.
That was when Arizona, back during the Obama administration, We're good to go.
With the US v.
Texas case, we're an amicus state on that.
I think states should be able to pass complementary laws, immigration laws, that allow states to enforce immigration, which they have a right to do under the Constitution.
But what the federal government has done under Obama and Biden is they've said, hey, only we can enforce immigration laws.
And by the way, we're not going to enforce them.
And you can't either.
So no one can.
And so if a future administration comes in and refuses to enforce immigration laws, I think the state should have the ability to pass a state law.
Charlie, it's illegal at the federal level to traffic drugs in South Carolina.
It is also illegal under South Carolina state law to traffic drugs.
If the feds don't enforce drug trafficking laws in my state, I can under state law.
I think I should be able to do the same thing with illegal immigrants, prosecuting them and returning them.
So these are things that we would like to continue to fight for.
I would like to give the Supreme Court to roll back that last case.
But again, the Justice Department could choose to consent and kick it.
Thank you so much, Attorney General Wilson.
Hope to see you soon.
And thank you so much.
Thank you.
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I can't share anything private, but I could share you a general vibe and takeaway that the determination and the focus of the Trump team and the president to fulfill promises, especially when it comes to immigration, is remarkable.
Stephen Miller, who is the deputy chief of staff of policy, is doing a phenomenal job.
And he understands this to the micro detail better than anybody else from the agencies.
And again, I'm just like a fly on the wall learning so much.
Guys, there is so much legal complexity unnecessarily around immigration.
It's not as easy as it should be.
It's not as easy as, oh, there's a Trendy Araga member.
Take him out.
It's actually not that easy.
It's far more complicated than that.
It's, well, who actually does that?
Who finds them?
Who sources them?
Is it Homeland Security Investigations?
Is it the DEA because there is a drug aspect of this?
Is it the ATF? Is it the FBI? Is it Immigration Customs and Enforcement?
Is it ISCS, which is the Immigration Services and Customs?
I mean, and who actually is the hub that networks all of these different pieces together?
And nobody knows that like Stephen Miller.
He's doing a phenomenal job orchestrating all of it and playing offensive coordinator.
And from the people that I've had a chance to meet, they're just rock stars that are coming in.
And just the focus and the determination and the unwavering commitment that the American people gave us a mandate.
Yeah, it's very funny.
I'm not yet an abbreviation expert, but boy, the abbreviations are driving me crazy.
I just...
They gotta get rid of this.
Foster Freeze taught me well, and now...
I now know why Foster Freeze was so against abbreviations.
He spent time in D.C., and they use it as a way to try to keep you out of the conversation.
Well, I ran the Ipscami, and I did the Fiji, like, enough, okay?
This is Tom Holman here.
You can sit there and watch and get out of the way.
It's a felony to knowingly harbor and conceal an illegal alien from immigration authorities.
I just want to compliment the Trump team because...
There's so much thought that goes into this, so much detail that goes into this.
It is remarkable.
I'm just blown away.
Because I would think, okay, just take, you know, find an illegal, get an illegal.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Now, mind you, the table is beautifully set Did you guys know that we spent precious years in 2017, 2018, 2019, getting case law finally set so then we could then do mass deportations?
So the injunction strategy is probably not going to work by the left this time.
Because we have Title 42. We have remain in Mexico.
We have so much case law that has been set that we can now do the job.
Play cut 68. No.
They can fail to help us.
So get out of the way.
We're doing it.
You can sit there and watch.
However, you can't cross line.
I've said it many times over the past two weeks.
Title 8, United States Code 1324, Section 3, Triple I. It is a felony to knowingly harbor and conceal an illegal alien from immigration authorities.
It's a felony to appeal to a law enforcement officer in the performance of their duties.
Don't cross that line because there will be consequences, and thank God we've got a strong attorney general coming in, Pam Bondi, and I will push those prosecutions.
So you cannot help watch us, which I can't believe a mayor or a governor doesn't want to take public safety threats out of the community.
You can sit there and watch us do it, but do not cross that line.
There will be consequences.
Eric Adams is saying the right thing.
Now, Eric Adams wants a pardon, obviously, but that's fine.
That's fine.
I don't care if you want a pardon.
I don't care if you want to sit on the Railway Commission.
Eric Adams is saying the right thing.
Play cut 70. Those who are here committing crimes, robberies, shooting at police officers, raping innocent people have been a harm to our country.
I want to sit down and hear the plan on how we're going to address them.
Those are the people I am talking about, and I would love to sit down with the board of czar and hear his thoughts on how we're going to address those who are harming our citizens.
In the era of cancel culture, no one's afraid to be honest about the truth.
Well, cancel me.
Because I'm going to protect the people of this city.
And if you come into this country, in this city, and think you're going to harm innocent New Yorkers and innocent migrants and asylum seekers, this is not the mayor you want to be in the city under.
Good for him.
This is a guy that understands the vibe of his city.
Again, I'm a little more cynical.
I think he's just wherever the wind blows.
Whatever.
Fine.
He wants a party and he wants to be in Trump's best side.
Okay, whatever.
But that's right.
By the way, New York is the jumping off point for a lot of where the migrants go, the illegals go.
It's the hub and spoke model.
They don't stay in New York.
New York is where they get gathered.
They go to the Rosebud Hotel and then boom, they go to Springfield and they go to Campton and they go to Duluth.
They go to Peoria.
We wish Democrats would want their cities to be safe, even if they aren't looking for pardons.
They should want what is, they want it because it's right.
I can tell you from firsthand experience, I could not be more encouraged by the Trump team's commitment to secure the country for mass deportations.
