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Oh No! Democrat Billionaires Are Freaking Out!
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Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show.
Rod Blagojevich joins us to talk about the Hunter Biden pardon.
But most importantly, we talk about this remarkable New York Times piece that I think you're really going to enjoy.
What's a billionaire Democrat to do?
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There is a lot happening.
There's a very serious and fluid and unprecedented situation happening in South Korea.
We are far from experts on South Korean politics.
We're keeping our eye on that.
It seems as if the South Korean opposition leader declares a coup and there is You all is no longer the president of South Korea.
This is a fast-moving situation.
We'll not give an official pronouncement just yet, but certainly something to keep our eye on.
I want to begin today talking about this remarkable piece that was published over the weekend in the New York Times.
And it shows your power.
It shows the power of everybody in this audience.
Every single one of you that chased ballots and registered voters, every single one of you that worked in the grassroots, that started Turning Point USA hubs and became a grassroots activist.
It shows what you went up against.
And the losers of this last election just recently convened at the Salamander Hotel in Washington, D.C. When the Democrats would say that our democracy is under attack, what they were really saying is that our oligarchy is under attack.
That the rule of the few, that those of us in the Council of Experts that know better than you, and this is very similar to the situation that we articulated yesterday of why Kash Patel matters so much.
That the Kash Patel appointment is trying to restore the founders' vision for law enforcement and for the administration of justice.
That it will not be its own Out of regulation, distant branch of government and bring it back into alignment with the consent of the governed.
There is a remarkable piece in the New York Times that says this.
What's a Democratic billionaire to do now?
The party's donor class is still wrestling with Donald Trump's victory, worried about retribution and sluggish liberal energy.
Some rich Democrats are even pondering leaving the country.
This is by Theodore Schleifer, who is a very, very talented reporter for The New York Times.
Let me begin by first isolating one of the subheads here.
Some rich Democrats are even pondering leaving the country.
Now, I'm sure there is an exception to what I'm about to say, but I do not know a single rich Republican that after Joe Biden became president in 2020 was contemplating leaving America.
Some people would joke about it.
Some people would say, oh, you know, I'm going to leave.
But it seems as if the Democrats look at their relationship with America far more transactionally than Republicans do.
Democrats look at this as a temporary colony to make a bunch of money, to exert a fair amount of power.
They do not have a loyalty or a fidelity to this country the same way that those as conservatives would do.
The piece begins by saying this.
In the weeks after Election Day, one of the biggest donors in the Democrat Party, the LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman, has considered what would once be unthinkable for a billionaire who often talks about his patriotism, leaving the United States.
Well, maybe his patriotism was all a facade.
Mr. Hoffman, who has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on politics over the last few years, has told friends and allies that he's weighing a move overseas, according to three people with knowledge of the talks, who insisted on anonymity to discuss private conversations.
Hoffman declined to comment through a spokesperson and has helped pay for some of the most aggressive private litigation against Donald Trump.
The piece continues.
Several major donors or their advisors have privately floated the idea of moving abroad, saying that it would protect their assets from Mr. Trump's wrath.
Some are distributing memos meant to guide the post-mortem analysis for Democrats, beginning to kick around the ideas for new media companies, or imploring their peers to not let liberal fundraising dry up.
Now, this is a perfect segue, by the way, to another New York Times article that I want to draw your attention to before I continue on this one.
So Democrats are meeting at the Salamander Hotel, and this is what it says here.
The Salamander Hotel in Washington, where the typically sedate biannual meeting of the Democracy Alliance, a network of major liberal donors, became a four-day group therapy session.
Dejected Democrats debate about what happened at early morning breakfast and evening drinks around a fire pit on the sidelines of the conference, the first gathering of its type since the election.
The lobby was buzzing with Democrat donors, operatives, and interlopers caught up with friends.
Now, let me just kind of put a pause on that article and then highlight another New York Times article that came out this weekend.
And it was about Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
So you have a bunch of donors wondering, how did we lose?
How did we lose?
How did we lose?
We need to start new media companies.
We need to start our own podcasting.
Well, let me draw your attention to this other article.
That is very, very important.
And all of you in this audience that support Turning Point USA, all of you in this audience that support Turning Point Action, all of you in this audience that support The Charlie Kirk Show, you're the reason why Democrats are crying into their white wine at the Salamander Hotel.
Republicans built an ecosystem of influencers.
Some Democrats want one too.
Democrats were badly outflanked online in the election, and progressive influencers are now trying to create networks to be a left-wing answer to Turning Point USA. The article goes into great detail about how the left and how Democrat operatives Have been unable to build an influencer network like we have on the right.
Now mind you, I wish I could take full credit for this.
And to be fair, Turning Point has operated a multi-hundred person influencer network for the last five years.
We have sourced amazing talent.
We have trained amazing talent.
We have this grassroots organization that harmonizes with the influencer program.
The New York Times article writes, Their goal is to eventually forge self-sustaining advocacy groups and networks, a left-wing answer to the nonprofit Turning Point USA. But first, they'll need buy-in and cash from Democrat donors and institutions to compete in a new attention economy where people's time is the currency.
Now, remember, they had Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders.
Joe Rogan was a man of the liberal left.
They alienated Rogan and Rogan proudly joined our movement.
How they treated him during COVID. How they treated him because he took ivermectin.
How they tried to smear and censor and slander him.
How the full force of the regime came after Rogan and all of his followers.
Now, let me remind you of something.
Something very, very important.
That we complain a lot about how they control the media.
It turns out then going back to the other piece, these Democrat donors at a conference and a retreat are wondering, how is it that turning point and this army that we were told didn't exist beat us?
The piece continues.
Two attendees, two Democrat donors, said unprompted that the scene of Democrat donors in D.C. felt like a funeral.
You helped make that funeral happen.
And what they were eulogizing is the death of the modern Democrat Party.
People are kind of shell-shocked trying to remember what has happened.
Steve Silberstein, a software entrepreneur who has donated millions to the Democrats over the last decade, sent in an interview, quote, people are trying to adjust to reality and plot out a path forward.
Carla Jurvetson, a major progressive donor, was there alongside of, guess who, Alexander Soros.
Everybody, you beat the wealthiest, most powerful people on the planet.
Our grassroots hustle, our bottom-up energy, the infrastructure that we all built together.
Mr. Soros says, he's quoted in the piece, quote, I was always concerned about Mr. Trump's victory.
He said, however, we're not going to give up.
We're going to keep our commitment to progressive causes.
There are so many takeaways here, everybody.
But one of the major ones is going into Election Day, Democrats were convinced they were going to win.
They thought they were going to win.
We didn't know the same.
We said we could win, we could lose.
We were always in the middle.
But the American people rose up in numbers that they could never possibly comprehend.
This was a revolt against the elites.
This was the closest to the reclamation of the republic we've ever seen.
And now Democrats are confused.
They are haywire trying to decide their direction forward.
And Alexander Soros, the heir to the Soros fortune, is leading the funeral procession.
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And one of the reasons we were able to beat the Democrats was because we embraced early voting.
And I know many of you on this audience thankfully got on board for that.
When you think about it, our movement was so big and so fresh and so new.
Didn't it make sense?
To make sure that we expanded the number of days that we voted, not just had everyone vote on a singular day.
If we would not have embraced early voting, and if we would not have chased ballots the way we did, we would not have won the White House.
I believe that without a doubt.
We won with first-time voters.
When you have first-time voters, you need more days, not less days, to get those people out to vote.
And the Democrats are scratching their heads because they got so used to being in power and being in control.
What is a Democrat donor, billionaire donor to do?
The piece by Teddy Schleifer.
It continues.
One tech billionaire, the eBay founder, Pierre Omador, started a philanthropy called the Democracy Fund.
Which recently sent a private memo to allies expressing urgency to protect the vulnerable.
Donors should stand strong and surge dollars now.
Democrat donors are all over the place here.
And what makes this victory fundamentally different than 2016, and this is very important, everybody, is that they had four years to prepare for it.
They had war rooms and committees and meetings.
And you better believe lawfare was a huge element of this.
The lawfare wrinkle is a huge, huge component.
So they said, how do we prevent Donald Trump from being president?
Now, they screwed up the timing, to be honest.
If they really wanted to do it, they should have done those indictments a lot earlier.
But they messed up the timing.
They did it far too late in the cycle.
And it was all BS. It was all garbage.
And then the Alvin Bragg one looked so silly and baseless.
So all their symmetrical lawfare fell apart.
Even though you're trying to tell me to...
Oh, they're not coordinating.
Even though it was Alvin Bragg, Fannie Willis, Jack Smith, Jack Smith, all within 60 days of each other.
Indictment, indictment, indictment, indictment.
The purpose was obviously election interference.
And it turned out being a huge positive for President Trump.
Made him a more sympathetic figure.
To millions and millions of Americans and brought in millions of first-time voters into the system.
Brought in millions of first-time people into the voting rolls.
And then on top of that, the Democrats thought they had a superior ground game.
The Democrats were piece after piece.
And boy, we should do a whole show on this before the end of the year.
We should.
Of every article they wrote about Turning Point, saying, oh, Turning Point doesn't have a ground game.
Oh, they've outsourced the Turning Point.
They're going to lose.
They've outsourced to Charlie Kirk.
They're going to lose.
Turns out our ground game, working with, of course, the Trump campaign, James Blair, Susie Boyles, Susie Wiles, James Blair, Susie Wiles, the whole team.
That our ground game was superior to anything on the left.
They were talking about, oh yeah, we're knocking on 6 million doors or we're knocking on 8 million doors.
Turns out we were actually chasing ballots and putting them into the system.
Let me also, and by the way, these numbers are incredible because we're preparing for a very big weekend here at Turning Point.
Our 1,000 biggest donors are coming in to Mar-a-Lago this weekend for a major event.
And I was running through some of these numbers.
And this is worth its own podcast episode.
It's worth its own broadcast, which is very simple.
Which is, we don't win without the youth vote and first-time voters.
If Kamala Harris, this is incredible.
I've run all these numbers.
If Kamala Harris would have done as well with young voters as Joe Biden in 2020, she's president.
Did you know that?
All Kamala Harris, forget all the other demographics, all Kamala Harris had to do was match Joe Biden's youth vote performance from 2020, and she would be president.
That's all she had to do.
On 54, this is how young men decisively moved for Trump.
In 2018, young men were Democrat by 19 points.
In 2020, Democrat by 15 points.
In 2022, by one point.
In 2024, Republican plus 13 points.
So as the wealthiest people on the planet and some of the most sinister and evil people on the planet, P.R. Omador, Reid Hoffman, are crying themselves at a funeral at the Democracy Alliance.
How did we lose?
Even though we spent hundreds of millions and billions of dollars, you lost to a grassroots movement while your artificial synthetic machine was not able to convince millions of people to vote for them.
And now we have a mandate the likes of which the country has never seen before.
The New York Times article is, what's a Democrat billionaire to do now?
That is a very good question, but I can tell you that the people defeated the oligarchs this election.
At this last election, it was the most successful citizen revolt in modern American history.
So sure, flee.
Get out of the country.
You'll make America great again.
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Governor, great to see you again.
Governor, I want to get your initial reaction on Joe Biden's very widespread, wide-sweeping pardon of Hunter Biden.
You were a recipient of a pardon from President Trump, but categorically different from this one.
Your thoughts, Governor?
Well, two things, Charlie.
Number one, I didn't break a single law.
It was all politics.
Conversations started by then President-elect Obama.
He went to the White House for eight years.
I went to the Big House for eight years.
He ran away and sold me out and made a deal.
It was political horse trading.
I would never give in to the corrupt weaponization of non-crimes.
And so, you know, they crush you when you do that because they rigged the system.
But Hunter Biden's guilty of the things that he pled guilty to, probably a lot of other things as well.
So there are real crimes there.
Now, I'm a father, and I have to say that if I was in Joe Biden's shoes and that was my child, I would probably have done the same thing.
But what I would not have done and what he shouldn't have done was he should have never lied to the American people.
There was no doubt in my mind he was going to do for Hunter Biden what he ended up doing, unless he was able to get Kamala Harris to do it.
But I felt all along Trump was going to win, so Biden would have to do it.
And Biden knew it, and he lied to the American people and treated them like chumps.
But this is no surprise because Joe Biden has been a liar and a plagiarizer probably throughout his whole political career, which began way back in 1972. And I think the big crime, no pun intended, on the side of what Biden did was the fact that he lied to the American people.
Now, is this special treatment?
Of course it is.
Is it a two-tiered criminal justice system?
Of course it is.
Does equal protection under law exist in America?
I've learned the hard way.
It does not.
But I think one thing Biden can do to atone for some of this, what he did and the decision that he made, is he ought to pardon the January 6th protesters.
And they ought to apply the same standard to the J6 protesters that was applied to Black Lives Matter protesters, where few, if any, of them were charged with crimes or convicted of crimes.
In fact, I don't know that any of them were.
And so why is it that those protesters don't get prosecuted, but the January 6th ones do?
So if Biden wants to do something that would be constructive to heal the wounds in this divided country of ours, he ought to pardon the J6 protesters.
And while he's at it, he may want to think about just giving a blanket pardon to Trump and everybody around Trump who was persecuted by those Democratic weaponized prosecutors who've abused the rule of law and are destroying our democracy.
That is well said and well put, Governor.
And just remember, you spent eight years behind bars.
I mean, that's a political hit job.
Well, to be exact, Charlie, it was 2,896 days, not that I was counting.
It's really one month short of eight years.
But yes, it was.
And, you know, look, no one even accused me of taking a single penny.
It was fundraising requests and a political horse trade that Obama started.
That was the so-called sale of the Senate seat.
That case was reversed by the appellate court years later after I sat in prison for three, four years.
And they reversed it because the standard that was used was not a legal standard.
It would end government because politics and government, so much of it is done by political deals.
So they reversed that.
They can never uphold that.
They upheld three fundraising requests where there was no quid pro quo.
And at the second trial, because they failed to convict me at the first trial, the judge was totally corrupt.
Wouldn't allow us to even bring up, say the words, quid pro quo, much less instruct the jury that you have to have a quid pro quo, express quid pro quo in order to convict anybody for fundraising requests that were made by third parties, not even made by me.
So they put me in prison for 14 years because I fought back.
And they hope to bury the truth.
And to this day, they're still covering up 98% of FBI tapes that they recorded that show that I was telling the truth and show that they were lying.
And frankly, exculpatory evidence.
They are corrupt.
And what they did to Trump was no surprise to me because I lived it myself.
But the irony of it is, and the danger for our country, Charlie, is that what they were able to do to a Democrat governor at the AAA level, they believed they could successfully then do to a Republican president at the major league level, the leading opposition candidate of the party in power.
And here again, this goes back to Biden.
The other thing about Biden is the chutzpah to be able to say that his son was being targeted.
When Biden himself and his DOJ, and I'm certain, because I know how the business works, that Biden knew that the DOJ was doing what they were doing.
He probably instructed them.
It came right out of the Oval Office, those fake charges that were leveled against Trump by Jack Smith and those other Democratic prosecutors in other places.
So I want to ask you, Governor, and I want to go to our hometown of Chicago, which I care a lot about.
This is Mayor Johnson receiving criticism and responding to his criticism about the migrant crisis.
Play cut 47. Here's the budget shortfall for 2025, all right?
Call for number two.
982 million dollars.
Chicago alone.
Almost 500 million.
The cost of Chicago's migrant crisis under Mayor Brandon Johnson.
He defends it.
Here's what he said.
Listen.
I get the noise around my administration.
I'm doing it differently.
And I know it feels a certain way, but I'm doing it better.
I have a balanced budget that invests in people.
Governor, what is going on in our hometown of Chicago?
Well, the mayor doesn't know what he's doing.
I call him Lori Lightfoot 2.0 because he's a continuation of what she did to this city.
It's a great city with great people in it.
And he's got it all upside down.
His priorities are all wrong.
That budget deficit that you just showed is nearly a billion dollars.
Half of it is to pay for illegal immigrants who came to America illegally.
And he's making hardworking, honest taxpayers in Chicago, and homeowners in particular, pay higher taxes to pay for that.
And Chicago is a sanctuary city.
And here's another example of how things are upside down with today's Democratic leaders.
For it to be a sanctuary city, they are expressly defying federal law.
And it is a crime to harbor immigrants who are in a community illegally.
And if this mayor persists in keeping Chicago a sanctuary city and gets in the way of the homeland security effort to do the deportations and the other parts of the agenda that the Trump administration is committed to doing, that's a felony.
Those are crimes.
And let's see whether or not these mayors like Johnson, this Governor Pritzker, and others who are pandering to the far left of the Democratic Party are going to continue to put the interests of illegal immigrants above ordinary, regular, everyday citizens.
And Charlie, the community that gets hurt the worst Is the Black community.
And here's another example of how the Democratic Party has this sort of soft racism where they really talk a big game but do little or nothing to uplift the lives of everyday Black Americans.
And here in Chicago, the South Side in particular, the West Side, neighborhoods I'm very familiar with because I grew up on the West Side myself.
Here's an example of putting the interests of immigrants who came illegally above I think those trends are going to continue with this kind of bad government that we're getting in Chicago by Brandon Johnson.
Yeah, I want to ask you just about the future of the Democrat Party.
Where do you see them going from here?
Do you see them moderating and becoming kind of the Democrat Party that you represented, which is one that rejects the woke stuff, represents voters, wants borders?
Or do you think that they're going to double and triple down on their radicalism?
That's a real good question.
And I think the party's at a crossroads right now in what direction it's going in.
If I were to guess, my guess is they're going to lean further towards the radicalism because the energy comes from the far left, the socialist wing of the party.
We see it here in Chicago.
I can see it by just watching the events in Washington.
I also think the fact that Trump has remade the Republican Party and turned the Republican Party into a party of working people.
It's the working class party now, this Trump Republican Party.
I think that too is going to Not only grow the Republican Party under Trump, but I think it's also going to compel the Democrats to recognize that they, for political reasons, may just want to forget about working people altogether and just focus on the wealthy elites, And play the divisions that they play with identity politics that they've been so expert at doing.
I don't think they're going to learn their lessons from this election because there are too many interest groups and too many activists in the party that are committed to moving the party in that direction and who genuinely and sincerely, which is terrifying, but they genuinely and sincerely believe in a lot of the stuff that they're trying to impose on the rest of us.
Look, they don't have an obvious way out.
I want you to think back, Governor, I'm sure you were in politics in some way, back to how Bill Clinton did it.
How did Bill Clinton fend off the activist class in 1992 to successfully moderate the Democrat Party and then win the White House?
That was their problem through the 80s, too radical, too extreme.
How did Bill Clinton do it, and could that be duplicated in today's time?
Well, yes, it can be duplicated.
The way Bill Clinton did it was he basically gave a middle finger to the extreme left wing of the party.
And he did it at one particular event that was actually a dramatic event when the Reverend Jesse Jackson and he were at an event among leaders of the black community.
And there was this woman named Sister Soulja who had written a whole bunch of anti-white stuff.
And Clinton very shrewdly and correctly took her on right then and there.
And he was a different kind of Democrat at that time.
time.
And the word got out that this was a Democrat that was a lot less like, you know, the Kamala Harris, AOC, Democrats of that time, which was represented by Dukakis, who was the Democrat nominee in 88, and more like President Kennedy, the Kennedys, Bobby Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, and and more like President Kennedy, the Kennedys, Bobby Kennedy, John F. Kennedy,
So I think something like that, but not just one event, but actually furthering policies that are more in line with, you know, common sense, I think helped Clinton.
And he was the chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council.
They were centrist Democrats.
And there was some real energy in that part of the Democratic Party at that time.
The question, as you asked moments ago, is whether this generation of Democrats will do what Clinton did.
In the 1990s, and my suspicion is it's a different dynamic.
It is a different dynamic.
My suspicion is they're going to lean further left because the energy on the Bernie Sanders AOC wing of the party, the socialist wing of the party, is a lot stronger today than it was back in the 1990s.
Governor Rob Blagojevich, thank you so much.
Come back anytime.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you, Charlie.
All the best to you.
Thank you.
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We are on verdict watch, by the way, of Daniel Penny, who's an American hero, which if Daniel Penny goes to jail, there has to be some sort of federal recourse for this.
Just a refresher.
Daniel Penny was on the subway when this lunatic was harassing other passengers on a subway in New York City.
A good Samaritan Marine.
Great man.
Goes and restrains the lunatic.
The lunatic ends up dying for a different reason unrelated to him.
Daniel Penny is now facing murder charges for this.
Could end up the rest of his life in jail for doing the right thing.
Do you want more Daniel Pennies or less Daniel Pennies?
For the women in the world, what would you like to have that situation play out?
Now, I want to have a single liberal woman come on this program and tell me...
Let's recreate the scene.
Let's recreate it.
You're sitting on the subway.
You have a Marine sitting right there and then you got some lunatic screaming in people's faces, harassing them and physically harassing them and assaulting them.
I want you to tell me in that situation what should have been done.
Oh, call the police?
Sorry, they didn't show up.
They're understaffed and undermanned.
What should the man do in that situation?
I want a liberal woman to tell me in great specific detail because it happens all the time.
It's very interesting because also in the city of New York was the Kitty Genovese story.
I don't know if Blake even knows the Kitty Genovese story off the top of his head.
He probably does.
The Kitty Genovese story actually was largely propaganda.
The point of the story is that people were upset that Kitty Genovese allegedly was raped and people watched on and did nothing.
And people were outraged about it.
The point being that it actually wasn't what people said it was, but the takeaway was that the public said, how could you dare see something bad and you would do nothing about it?
That's the point of the story I'm going at.
Now in New York, it's you see something bad, how dare you intervene?
You see something bad, how dare you step up?
The situation in front of us is...
Do you want men in particular who served in our military, whatever, when they see something evil, when they see a bully unfolding in front of them, do you want them to just kind of shrug their shoulders?
That is the country you are entering.
And the women of this world, especially the unmarried liberal women of New York City who ride the subway, this verdict will make you in a far more dangerous situation.
This verdict Will result in women being assaulted, raped, kidnapped, murdered, if it goes in against Daniel Penny.
Why?
Their idea of masculinity is a feeling, emotions-based masculinity.
It's one that tries to find the common ground with the harasser.
Their type of masculinity is one where, oh, he must be going through so much because he's going up to women on the subway and harassing them and potentially assaulting them.
Daniel Penny didn't just do nothing wrong, he did everything right.
And now he might be punished for the rest of his life because of that.
He's heroic.
What would you rather have in that situation?
Would you rather have men sit idly by?
A liberal woman on Twitter the other day said, quote, this man on the subway was repeatedly harassing a woman, being disgusting and invading her space.
Tell me why and the other women around try to intervene and just tell them off, but all the young fit guys just stood around and stood silent and looked at the ground.
You wonder why?
By the way, this is a liberal woman on the subway.
Men are now saying, well, if I intervene and do something, I could go to jail for the rest of my life.
We punish the heroes and we elevate the criminals.
We punish the courageous.
We criminalize the courageous, actually, is what this is.
By design, if Daniel Penney spends a day in prison, I call on Pam Bondi to do the following.
Pam Bondi should launch an immediate investigation of the New York justice system, just like the investigations Obama weaponized against big city police departments.
Pam Bondi should immediately cut off the $3.4 billion federal grant going to MTA and all other federal funds and no taxpayer funds should subsidize transport systems in New York City that criminalize the innocent.
Similarly, cut off all federal funds going to New York courts or prison systems and issue a blanket ban against hiring New York state prosecutors into federal positions.
If Daniel Penny goes into jail, Which it looks like he might.
Who knows?
The verdict is open-ended.
It will be criminalizing the courageous and putting a hero in prison.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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