"Prove Me Wrong" With the Next Director of National Intelligence
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Tabling with the DNI director.
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You heard it.
We are tabling with the DNI director, well, soon to be DNI director, Tulsi Gabbard.
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First of all, wow.
It's crazy to see two of the most active conservatives here.
And thank you, Mrs. Tulsi, for your service.
I appreciate it a lot.
I appreciate you for defending our country.
Thank you.
What's your name?
My name is Jew.
I like the religion, but I'm a Christian.
Do you have to say that a lot?
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's kind of like a signature calling card, but that's just me.
So for context for my question, I suffer from anxiety and obsessive compulsive disorder.
I've been through a lot in my life.
I've done good things and I've done bad things.
And because of my life experiences, I have a very bad tendency to catastrophize a lot about a lot of things, but more specifically our future.
And I look on social media and everywhere I go, and admittedly fake news, but I go everywhere, I look everywhere, and I see a lot of hatred and a lot of division going on from mostly the left, admittedly, but overall it's just a lot of hatred and division going on.
And so the question I really want to ask you both is, as men and women of America, as religious people, and as political figures, what inspires you?
What inspires you to keep on going and to keep on being optimistic in a country that seems to be so full of hate and political division right now?
First of all, I find my hope in God and God's unconditional love for every single one of us.
Yeah!
So no matter how dark the days may seem, and sometimes there are very dark days, and we face dark times in our future if we don't take action now and in this election, But even in those darkest of times where I find strength,
where I find peace, and where I find courage to be a voice for common sense and the truth and freedom for all Americans, it comes from knowing that God's love is eternal and that he will give me that clarity and strength to do the right thing for the right reasons.
Thank you.
Yeah, and for me, I mean, look around you.
This should give you hope for the future.
I mean, this is supposed to be on a liberal college campus.
And I agree with Tulsi.
We must understand that there is a God and we are not him.
And that God has a plan and that God loves us.
And as a Christian, I believe that that manifested in his son, Jesus Christ, and those who give their life to Jesus Christ.
And so, look, we must not grow tired in doing good or noble things.
And what an amazing thing.
And I'll only correct one thing you say.
Okay.
Because this is not about conservative or liberal today.
I consider myself a conservative.
Tulsi at one time ran for president as a Democrat.
Everybody, this is a moment that's bigger than politics.
Yes.
That this is now bigger than whether Charlie's a conservative or Tulsi was co-chair of the DNC. This is about America and defeating the forces that want to destroy our country.
That is what this is all about.
Let's go!
Thank you very much.
I just want to say thank you for coming here today.
Thank you, Jew.
Thank you.
Who's up next?
Yeah, there you are.
Get up there, buddy.
Get in there, bro.
So, first off, I'd like to personally thank Tulsi Gabbard for destroying Harris' 2020 presidential run.
And so this is mainly towards Charlie Kirk, because I sort of know your views.
Obviously, the topic of...
Of like foreign involvement, US foreign involvement in foreign countries a little contentious with conservatives right now.
How would you balance supporting our allies and supporting even if it unfortunately means we have to send troops in with how would you balance that with also working on our internal supporting internal our own people?
I think this is actually a better question for Tulsi, if that's okay.
This is one of her passion topics, and Tulsi served and serves in our military, and so Tulsi, you want to take that?
Yeah, sure.
I mean, this is personal for a lot of reasons.
I still serve in the Army Reserve.
I'm a lieutenant colonel and a battalion commander.
I've deployed to three different war zones at different times over the last 20 years.
I have friends who are deployed into combat zones today.
I know Kamala Harris is not aware of their existence.
Stop it.
Which is both a sad and disastrous state of affairs that in and of itself disqualifies her to be our commander in chief.
But I was talking to a friend of mine the other day who lost both of his legs in combat.
And all of us who raise our hands and volunteer to serve in our military are willing to lay our lives down to ensure the safety, security and freedom of the American people.
What we do not sign up for is politicians who care more about feeding the military industrial complex and the war machine than they do about our lives, but the safety and security of the American people's lives.
What we need are leaders, and this is why I've endorsed President Trump in this election, who will always make those decisions in balancing.
You asked a very good question.
How do you balance the need for us to engage and stand with our allies and partners and put the American people's interests first?
Every decision has to be made within the context of what serves the needs of the American people first.
Period.
And that includes our national security needs.
That includes our liberty and our freedom, which is often on the line when we are in a state of war.
The war machine takes advantage of that to try to take away more of our freedom.
And it has to do with our economic well-being as well.
If we have a president, commander-in-chief who makes every decision about what's in the best interest of the American people, we won't go wrong.
And I'll just say one thing.
We don't have to overcomplicate this.
We should not send another dollar to Ukraine while our border is wide open.
Period.
Yes, please follow up with Tulsi, but that's my position in one sentence.
So the reason I ask that is a little personal because I'm from Japan.
And obviously, China has been increasingly aggressive.
And why a lot of Japanese people are reluctant to fully support Trump is they're afraid that you'll sort of throw us under the bus if China drags Japan into a war.
So...
Here's what I'd say to that, and I understand the concern, but we need a president who will prevent war.
Period.
Period.
And the opportunity is there with the right kind of leadership, and this is a huge point of difference between President Trump and Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris has criticized President Trump for doing what we should expect our leaders to do, Which is to engage in direct diplomacy, whether it be with dictators or adversaries, opposition as well as friends and partners, because that is how you prevent war.
Yes, it is strength.
It is peace through strength.
But that's not just through the buildup of military hardware and capability.
That's through engaging in the kind of leadership that we've seen in President John F. Kennedy, that we've seen in President Ronald Reagan, and that we saw in President Trump's first administration.
Thank you so much.
God bless you.
Thank you.
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So, it's open mic.
Thank you.
Hello!
What's your name?
My name is Aydin.
I am a U.S. citizen, but I was raised in Mexico.
I came here because my parents one day want to come back, but legally, you know?
They want to do it in the right way.
And by coming here to school, it was going to be an opportunity.
But the school looks like it's going to give more opportunity to people who don't come here legally, instead of me, who I am a citizen.
I've been working for a year, over a year, to get my scholarship.
Nothing came back, so today I had to drop out of college, sadly.
I'm sorry.
And how is it possible that I have to go back to my parents in Mexico and try to look for a job there when I've been looking for months here in the United States as a citizen to fight for my rights to get a job and get an income here just so my parents can come back in the right way.
And also, my family is fully Democrat.
I am here opening up finally if they see me over there.
And they see me over there.
I'm sorry for you, but I've opened my eyes.
I've opened my eyes.
I love your thoughts on this, Tulsi, but I'll say this.
It is reprehensible and wrong that the people that come here the right way are punished and the people that come here the wrong way are rewarded.
That is wrong.
Yeah.
The people that cut in line get benefits.
They get taxpayer-funded subsidies.
They get flights to the city they're choosing.
They get luxury hotels where you came here the right way.
You followed the rules.
Yeah.
Yes.
And you are being punished.
It is a breakdown of justice and fairness.
And Donald Trump will not put up with that.
He will say, if you follow the rules, you'll be rewarded.
If you break the rules, you will be punished.
That is what Trump will do as president.
Thank you so much.
I just want to encourage you and tell you to stay strong.
Don't give up.
Keep up the fight.
You are doing the right thing in the right way, and know that you're not alone.
Thank you.
Hey, you deserve a lot of love, okay?
One thing, one thing.
Jesus Christ loves you all.
He will come back one day.
Amen a todos.
Cuídense.
God bless you.
What a great soul.
Okay, I thought we had a disagreement.
Maybe if not, are we going to just keep going?
No?
Okay, great.
Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, and my name is Christopher.
I had a lot of questions, a lot of debates in the crowd today, but my main question would be, Sorry, would be how do we start having conversations in the workplace without infringing on the rules of work, but still be able to make it friendly?
Because I used to work at a job where I would bring up conversations about border and immigration and abortion and stuff, and I would make people aware.
I would give them factual news information, but then they all turned on me all of a sudden one day.
I didn't understand how you could go from smiling in your face to stabbing you in the back the next day.
How do we cultivate a more friendly atmosphere in our workforce where we're mostly at the majority of our life?
I mean, the First Amendment is the First Amendment.
I think when you're having these conversations, what I have found, even when I meet with people who come into the conversation ready for a fight, when you listen first and if they are communicating in good faith, then you can have a true and real conversation that is based on respect.
You can respect where someone's coming from even if you disagree with them.
Right.
And then share your own experience.
Share your own thoughts.
Share what's on your heart with them.
And again, if it's a good faith conversation, then it will flourish from there.
If they're not interested in having a conversation, it's not worth confronting.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
God bless you guys.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Thank you for your service, Ms. Gabbard, for anything.
I just have one question related to the election for you.
How can you endorse someone who lost the last election fair and square?
There's no evidence.
Let him finish, guys.
Republican secretaries of state claimed it was fair.
Trump tried to leverage the Georgia secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger.
He said, find me 11,700 votes.
He has no respect for losing in our system.
And it, I mean, what happened on January 6th happened on January 6th.
A disaster.
Our Capitol got stormed for the first time since 1812. You people claim to love America.
Like, how does that not fire you up?
All right, so let's...
It's a fair question.
So let's talk through a couple elements of this.
First, do you think the CIA should involve itself in American elections?
No.
Okay, so it did in 2020. Show me proof.
Okay, well, Tulsi Gabbard knows this, you can tell you.
50 intel officials colluded, led by Tony Blinken due to declassified emails, signing an open letter calling the Hunter Biden laptop...
So why weren't any of the lawsuits successful?
Let me finish.
I did not...
Hold on.
He raised plenty of them.
Hold on a second.
I didn't interrupt you, right?
So let me finish.
50 Intel officials, current and former, signed a letter that was used to censor on social media the fact that there is a laptop owned by Hunter Biden that showed very suspicious and criminal activity by both Hunter and Joe Biden.
According to the Media Research Center, one out of four voters in swing states would have changed their vote if they would have known about the Hunter Biden laptop.
That's an utter ridiculous statement to make.
Well, I just cited it.
He lost by 7 million votes.
Well, hold on.
No, no.
He lost by 42,000 votes across three states.
Hold on, pal.
How much did he lose Arizona by?
Okay.
No, no.
Hold on.
How much did he lose this state by?
It's not about the final score.
It's a winner and a loser and a loss.
That's how our system works.
We have an electoral college system.
Yeah.
Who got the electoral votes?
Of course Biden did, but what was the margin in Arizona?
I don't know.
It was 10,000 votes.
Not in the back of my head.
Yeah.
So how much in Georgia?
It was $11,700.
I actually told McAfersberger to find him.
Or a Republican.
Who denounces him?
And in Wisconsin, it was $21,000, right?
So it was actually $42,000, not $7 million.
So when you're talking about the CIA and the Department of Justice signing a letter that was then used to...
I did not have my Twitter account for 30 days.
We were not allowed to mention the Hunter Biden laptop.
Because you violated a private company's...
Well, no, actually, I didn't.
Yes, you did.
No, because of the Twitter file saying it's Elon Musk, we now know the FBI told Twitter to say you are not allowed to mention a hundred-bind laptop.
Am I correct in this, Tulsi?
That's correct.
So you don't trust the FBI at all?
Well, not at all.
People who have to vote their life to civil service.
That's a red herring.
I'm saying in that instance, Yoel Roth, do you know who Yoel Roth was?
I don't know who Yoel Roth is.
Yoel Roth was the head of security, trust and safety for Twitter that had a standing, what's called a standing room meeting every Tuesday with the Federal Bureau of Investigation in San Francisco where they met about Russian threats to American interference of elections and they said this laptop is not allowed to be discussed on your platform.
That impacted our election.
People made their decisions differently in 2020, not knowing the full picture that this laptop existed, and that was the October surprise.
So, you would agree that that's not a fair election.
You think the laptop would have flipped the election for it?
Well, we're talking about 42,000 votes in three states, and I already cited a study that one in four swing voters would have changed their...
By who?
The media research center.
Clarence Thomas' Winnebago buyer?
Like, who funds these?
I just said by the independent, nonpartisan media research center, where they said one out of four voters would have changed their opinion.
So I just want to make sure we're clear, though.
You agree our government should not interfere with our elections.
Well, they have to regulate them by nature.
That's...
The states have to.
Otherwise you wouldn't have an election because you need rules and a judge.
I said interfere.
Interfere.
So should the federal government be able to restrict our speech during elections?
Well, when you have what happened in 2016 where Russian disinformation spreads all over Facebook and other platforms, then you have- That's not a lie!
It was not a lie.
It was not a lie.
Read the Mueller report, another Republican, respected.
The Mueller report found that there was no tangible collusion between Donald Trump or the Russian Federation.
It wasn't just a collusion thing.
It's a 430-page report.
I want to try to find common ground here, okay?
I want to try to find common ground.
Can we agree that 2020 was decided by very few votes?
No.
Because it wasn't.
Well, 42,000 votes is very few, right?
No.
So what is the percentage of 42,000?
It's not a vote.
George Bush and Al Gore were as close as ever in 2000. Al Gore conceded, said, you know what?
I lost.
There might be a challenge.
Hold on.
Because he cared about the good of the country.
You know, Al Gore brought it all the way up to the Supreme Court, man.
And he said that Bush was not the dude elected president.
And he could have gone further because...
How did he go further than the Supreme Court?
The Supreme...
The Supreme Court sent it back to judgment in the Florida State Supreme Court again, and Gore said, no, I'm not doing that.
Just move on, Bush is the president.
For the good of the country.
Because people used to care about our country.
Are you trying to imply Trump doesn't care about the country?
Yes, that's absolutely what I'm implying.
He's going to pull it for the country!
You think he sits in his gold room in Trump Tower and thinks, oh, how can I make things better for the country?
So let me ask one thing, and I'd love to have Tulsi.
Just help me understand.
So his business empire has been taken away from him.
Yeah, because he broke the law.
Can I finish my thought?
He's facing 700 years in federal prison.
He's been shot once with multiple assassination attempts.
Why keep running for president if he doesn't love the country?
Because 100 years from now, in a history textbook, it's going to say Donald Trump's name, and that's what motivates narcissists.
What?
Look, I will say this.
I hope you do some research, because...
I've done my research.
You need to do your research.
You clearly have it, man!
Look, I will say this as kindly as I can.
One day I hope you open your eyes because you've been significantly brainwashed on this topic.
And I guess the final question I'll ask is this.
If Donald Trump wins in three weeks, will you accept that as a legitimate result?
Yes.
Okay, I'll hold you to that.
That's the difference between me and you.
Okay.
Did Trump win in 2016?
Yes.
But you said that Russian interfered.
Russian interference had a role in the election, but Trump won fair and square.
He had more votes and more...
Notice how Hillary supporters didn't storm the Capitol.
Well, no, hold on.
Hillary never conceded.
Yes, she did.
No, hold on.
She had a concession speech the day after the election.
I watched it in middle school.
Hillary Clinton said Donald Trump was not the legitimate president of the United States.
That's one milked clip that is played all over the internet.
Yeah, she had a concession speech.
When's the Trump concession speech in 2020?
Show it to me.
Let me ask you one more question.
Are you voting for Kamala Harris?
Yes, I am, proudly.
What's her greatest accomplishment?
Her greatest accomplishment?
Nothing.
I would say that she's going to legalize marijuana federally, something that's been overdue by 100 years.
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you you you So I know that you talk a lot about serving the American people.
You were talking earlier about no more money for Ukraine until we secure our borders, until we have – I know I've seen earlier on Instagram and stuff, you talk about having good jobs for Americans, having good opportunities for Americans.
And as far as the Ukraine situation, Senator McConnell had talked about – I know – Your good friend Bobby Kennedy talks about this a lot, about how it's really sort of a money laundering scheme, as he put it, for military industrial complex.
They impose loans on Ukraine, for example, and a lot of that money is really going to, as McConnell said, going to the military industrial complex.
And they – as far as these loan conditions that they impose, they call them loans, but they're not getting paid back.
So really we're giving tax money to Americans – or tax money from Americans to other countries.
So – and as you've talked about before, serving the American people is extremely important to you.
So what I would say as far as serving the American people versus serving Ukraine, for example, I would say American people is probably above that, right?
Even if there is a threat from Russia or from, you know, influence from Russia that we need to spread democracy, support democracy, those kind of things.
But the other thing that you've talked about before...
What's the question?
Yeah.
The other thing that you've talked about before is, well, why doesn't that, that I don't really hear you talk about a lot, how does that not apply to Israel that we've been giving tons more money than Ukraine?
We literally just answered this question, like the guy before you, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I would say, you know, what I would be concerned about is people like Candace Owens get ostracized from the right for criticizing Israel in some ways, in ways that a lot of people would criticize, get lumped in with people like Nick Fuentes and stuff like that.
What is the question?
If you answered it before, I didn't hear it, but I'm going to watch it back for sure.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
In such a polarized political environment, it feels like a real conversation has taken a backseat to virtue signaling and winning the argument.
How do you think we can bring the focus back to meaningful debates where both sides listen and engage respectfully, even when they disagree?
Tulsi, I'd love to have you answer this because you dealt with the lack of the culture of freedom of speech on the left.
Come in and listen first.
I have so many different examples I could give you, but there's one in particular.
When I was running for president, I was in a small town in Iowa and went to go meet with the newspaper editor there.
I did it in every town that I went through, and I walked in knowing that he wanted to fight.
And the issue that he wanted to fight about was climate change.
He wanted to prove that he was right and I was wrong, even though he didn't really know what my position was.
I listened to him.
I listened to his points.
And then I asked him, do you care about clean water?
Do you care about clean air?
He came from a long line of farmers.
I said, do you care about having good soil quality so that your kids can continue to farm as your father and grandfather did?
I care about those same things.
I never used the word climate change at all, and we found common ground about these things that we uniquely cared about me growing up in Hawaii and him growing up in Iowa.
When we are willing to listen and engage in good faith, we can find those moments of common ground that will allow us to have those meaningful conversations around the things that are most important to all of us.
God gave us two ears and one mouth.
We should listen more and hear what people have to say.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yes.
I want to invite any disagreements, you guys.
More than welcome here.
Thank you.
Yes.
Next question.
Yeah.
Hi.
I'd first just like to give a huge welcome and thank you.
Just thank you guys for being here on behalf of the University of Arizona.
Thank you.
And all the students here as I represent the student body.
Right.
So I just I watched the Ovan last night news podcast with with Bernie.
And he, for the first portion, went over healthcare reformation in our country, with some comparative analysis to other countries that are in the same bracket of wealth and GDP. So I just was wondering, maybe because I have a poor understanding of Trump's proposed structure to optimize what I think is a necessary healthcare reformation.
I'll start with this, and this is where I see huge opportunity.
One of the things I'm excited about with President Trump winning is because of the people that he's chosen to surround himself with.
Number one, as Charlie said, there are no lobbyists for big pharma and big insurance sitting on the transition team to pick who is going to fill his cabinet.
That's a huge difference from any previous administration from either party.
Yeah.
They're the biggest lobbies.
You've got Bobby Kennedy who is sitting in position and already starting to choose people who recognize how broken our sick care system is and bring about the deeply, the systemic change that we need to see that will actually put our health and well-being first.
That's not just about pushing pills on people to make Big Pharma richer, but actually dealing with the root causes of why our country is so sick and how we can improve life for the American people.
Tulsi's exactly right.
One of the reasons, not the only reason, we spend more per capita on healthcare is that we're actively poisoning our kids in what we put in their cereal, in their food, and the corporations are poisoning us.
Donald Trump putting Bobby Kennedy into the administration and on the transition team will be one of the greatest steps forward in protecting American health.
For example, in Japan, 3% of kids at age 15 are chronically obese or overweight.
3%.
50% of our kids are chronically obese or overweight by the time they're 15. And it's not because just they're moving less.
It's because what's in our food.
Red dye 22, blue dye 5 from what is in our food should be illegal and is illegal in most other countries.
So if we are serious about health care, the number one thing we should focus on is the thing you put in your body more than anything else.
Food.
Food can either be medicine or poison.
And it's currently poison in our country, which then creates type 2 diabetes, heart issues, coronary issues, obesity, overweight.
So how do we get that?
It's a long project.
You need to fix the literature on how we actually publish studies, blow up the food pyramid, and make the lobbyists for Kellogg's and Nestle not have a back door into the White House.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I just have a quick question.
So going into the next election, we're picking the lesser of two evils.
It's always been that way because Jesus Christ has never been on the ballot.
And my question to you is what are some policies you can educate myself and everyone here with that Trump's going to put into place?
And what is your favorite policy?
I can start and then Tulsi can go.
He will end the Russian-Ukrainian war.
Blessed are the peacemakers.
He will secure the southern border and restore sovereignty.
No tax on tips.
No tax on overtime.
No tax on social security.
No men and women's sports.
Established energy independence.
Booming economy.
Middle class tax cut.
And one of my favorites, what I think is so incredibly important, he will end the weaponization of government against political opponents.
And we will not live in a country...
Where you go to jail just because you have different ideas.
Those are just some off the top of my head and Tulsi can continue.
Thank you.
I think you covered the greatest hits, Charlie.
I just want to take the opportunity to give a shout out.
I was in Reno last night at a University of Nevada-Reno women's volleyball game.
These women are taking a stand against biological males in their sport.
They are forfeiting a game.
They are a D1 team forfeiting a game because they refuse to play against San Jose State that has a biological male on their team.
The courage these women are demonstrating are an inspiration and we look forward to many more of these teams taking a stand even at their own peril, even against their own university leadership and standing up and doing what's right.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
And I'll just say one final thing.
It's very important that people of faith view the election the way you did.
It is a lesser of two evils always, but there is one that is better, and that one that is better fit towards our worldview, and that is Donald Trump.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, guys.
Appreciate it.
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Hello, my name is Brenna.
I've noticed that every time the topic of women's rights or female issues is brought up by politicians, everyone knows the conversation will be centered around abortion rights.
It seems we have lost contact with the fact that women's issues cover a multitude of issues.
As a daughter of Christ, woman, and believer in pro-life, of course I have a strong conviction on the matter.
However, I would like to know why we have allowed this conversation to be doctored towards one issue, and also how to navigate this conversation back to other issues regarding women.
I think the mainstream propaganda media has a lot to do with why they present women's issues around that single issue.
The Democrat Party leadership does the very same thing.
To me, I'm personally offended by it, because as a woman, there are a lot of different issues that I'm very concerned about, and I know that a lot of women across the country are.
We just talked about one of them.
How is it that Kamala Harris and Democrats claim to be the champion of women And yet they are silent when women are losing the ability to play fairly in sports against other women.
How is it that they are silent when young children are being mutilated because of the trans ideology and so-called gender affirming care?
They are silent on these issues.
And when it came time for a vote, every single Democrat voted against fairness and equality and Title IX for women and girls in sports.
So I encourage you, as you're having these conversations, Bring up these issues that you probably care very much about.
Bring up issues related to just the ability to afford living, be able to afford school.
Issues related to peace.
How do we raise a family in a society where we have criminals running around in our streets and we face the prospect of nuclear war?
This is happening now as a result of Kamala Harris.
I'll say one final thing.
The border is a woman's issue.
There are tens of thousands of young girls that are sex trafficked on the southern border.
And it is one of the great moral crimes in the history of our country.
There are 320,000 missing kids that we know of under Kamala Harris.
And I want every independent and swing voter to hear that.
You might hate Donald Trump, but you should hate the fact that there are 320,000 missing kids more than however much you hate Donald Trump.
It is modern day slavery.
We don't know where these kids are.
They could be a sex slaves, they could be labor slaves, or just generally missing.
For those of you that know what's happening on the border, every day there are these poor 12 and 13 year old girls that are trafficked by the cartels.
Someone says that it's their father and it's not their father.
Kamala Harris made a decision to get rid of DNA testing on the border.
It takes 90 seconds to do DNA testing.
DNA testing, swab, swab, put it in a machine, yes or no affirmative match of whether or not there's a biological relation.
It's not hard.
They decided to get rid of it because they didn't like the optics of a lot of people waiting on the border.
So what happens when you get rid of DNA testing?
That means anybody can claim to be the 12-year-old's father and bring her to the interior of the United States, and God knows where she is right now.
We have to all agree this is bigger than politics.
This is a moral failing of our country, and it must end immediately.