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That is the governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, who just officially accepted the vice presidential nomination for the Democrat Party, filled with lies, stolen valor, radical politics, all masquerading as the theme for tonight, which is Hicklib.
Jack Posobiec has been talking about this for quite some time, so has Blake, which is, if you are trying to appropriate conservatism, heartland values, the main thrust of this country with left-wing politics, what would you do?
It is the Yellowstone effect.
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Jack, you've been talking for quite some time about Hicklib.
This is the Kevin Costner Yellowstone Effect.
Explain to our audience what we saw tonight from Governor Walz, and then I want to play some tape illustrating that.
So Charlie, what's up, man?
Yeah, so the Hicklib is something for people who don't understand the meme or what we're talking about, the Yellowstone effect.
It's very simple.
The Hicklib is a phenomenon that's been pushed in Hollywood and pushed throughout mainstream media and society, where the idea is you take someone who has the The aesthetics of what people might think a conservative would be, wearing flannel or wearing a cowboy hat, riding around in a pickup truck, listening to country music, and yet then espousing all of these liberal beliefs and ideals.
Now, of course, this was shown most famously on the Yellowstone TV show,
where at one point in a later season, the main character, Dutton, gets this basically
like Antifa environmentalist girlfriend who's teaching him the error of his ways in the world.
And you could see this used again and again throughout media.
You can see all these guys all over YouTube.
There are times where Google has been caught actually propping up gun YouTubers that are hicklibs.
You could see it all throughout the country music world, by the way.
This guy, Oliver Anthony, comes out with this great song that everyone thinks is awesome when it first comes out,
the Richmond, North of Richmond.
And then he runs around and starts saying, oh, you know, I'm definitely not for Republicans
and Trump and all this.
And so it's been a huge psyop that millions of dollars have been poured into over the last three or four years.
And Tim Walz is, of course, now the final form of the political weaponization of the Hiklib Psyop.
That's also why you're seeing Ella Emhoff wearing the camo.
And I think Rolling Stone even had a story, I'll have to pull it up from earlier today, where they were talking about how Ella Emhoff wearing camo and Tim Walz shows that Democrats have now found a way to reach out to Southerners and Midwesterners and they're going to bring it all back.
You know, Charlie, here's the ultimate thing, though.
What it really shows is Democrats are terrified of losing the white working class.
Could it have been any more clear?
They come up on stage with a bunch of former football players with a fight song.
I mean, could it be even more clear?
We are losing men.
We are losing men.
We're trying to do better with men.
And it was the whole theme.
They're seeing it in the data.
They're seeing it in their polling.
I want to get the Dana Bash clip as well.
We have Blake here.
Blake, tell us, again, let's kind of go further on Hicklib.
This was a Hicklib parade, if you will, the entire night of, and we talk about this in the book, Rightwing Revolution, and Blake, you helped with the book at this part, in this part of the book, where, oh, I own a camel hat?
I own a shotgun.
I must share your values.
So vote for me.
Blake, keep on diving into this.
That really was on display tonight where they said, hey, if we can maybe do 10,000 votes better in the rules in Pennsylvania and 100,000 votes better in Wisconsin, we can win because We own camo too, Blake.
Yeah, Charlie.
The analogy you use in the book is we talk about putting things in drag.
And so, you know, it's like they trot out military generals and it's like, oh, they're in the fancy uniform.
They look really tough.
They look like they're out of central casting.
These must be tough, really patriotic American guys because that's what they would be in the movie.
And it's the same thing here.
You have, oh, folksy Tim Walls, and he's got the camo, he coaches the football, he's in the guard, he's very all-American, super normal.
That makes him a moderate.
We're the moderate, almost really a center-right party even.
Don't think at all about all those other things that we're doing.
It's classic, you know, boiling the frog is another metaphor that comes to mind.
Can we trick people into just voting for things that are wildly against their values and interests?
Voting for people whose idea is to confiscate their guns, flood their country with, you know, basically replace them with foreign migrants who are going to be more pliable votes, treat them as this, like, Kulak class that should be dispossessed because they have privilege, and literally, like, take their kids away and mutilate them because of a weird Cult, Gnostic, whatever belief in what gender is.
And we can trick them all into that because we have a guy who has shot a pheasant, shot a deer before.
They're playing for that.
And the sad thing is, who knows?
It might freaking work.
One thing I will say though, they got all those football players from his team out there.
They got students from his school out there.
I felt like something was really missing from that parade of people who knew Tim Walz.
This guy was in the guard for 24 years.
What?
Was there no one from his unit willing to talk about Tim Walz and the soldier?
So, Tim Walz said that J.D.
Vance, overcoming poverty and attending Yale Law School, he grew up in Butte, Nebraska, a town of 400 people.
I had 24 kids in my high school class and none of them went to Yale.
Well, J.D.
Vance also grew up in poverty.
And it's not the whole idea, but no, the Democrat Party is not about Excellence is not about achieving at the highest heights.
It's about staying mediocre and trying to bash down success and break down success.
We don't have the tape here, but Blake, of all the ways to attack Tim Walz, I mean, attack J.D.
Vance, I can't imagine, hey, you grew up in poverty and went to one of America's most prestigious schools as the most effective one.
I mean, it might work just because it is so popular to hate on, like, to hate on success, essentially, unless you do it from the right perspective.
If you're J.B.
Pritzker and you're going to come in to cheer on the revolution, then it's okay to flex and be like, I'm a billionaire haha you suck Trump then it's okay to do it but yeah other than that yeah they'll just come out and say oh yeah we're not a privileged urban elite like JD Vance who went to Yale like it's not gonna be popular to say but
Walls is like, just, it's depressing that this incredibly mediocre figure is going to be running to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
This is what I hear from all sorts of people.
People in the military who even setting aside the fact that he's a coward who abandoned his unit
They'll point out all the circumstantial evidence He doesn't really like they give away a lot of decorations
in the military these days There's decoration inflation just like there's great
inflation and these guys point out Walls basically never got
He got like the lowest possible decorations you can get he basically got the military equivalent of like a middle
finger when he was leaving This is a guy. He's like never worked in the private sector
except in a factory when he was 19 years old He's just stacked pensions as a teacher, as a member of the guard, as a congressman.
Hasn't like built up any wealth despite an enormous ability to do that.
He is a truly, profoundly mediocre figure.
And then he comes out here and is like, yeah, J.D.
Vance stinks because he worked hard and came out of poverty to go to a school that actively discriminated against him based on his skin color.
Due to policies that I, as a Democrat, support.
And I'm going to bully him for that.
That's right.
I probably couldn't have told you who the governor of Minnesota was off the top of my head three months ago.
And now I think I might hate Tim Walz more than I hate any politician in the country.
This guy is awful.
I guess I did miss that he said weird.
I'm sorry.
Polly Markets wins again.
I must have missed weird.
It was at the end of the speech.
Alright, this is the attack line here.
Let's play Cut 125.
Now, I grew up in Butte, Nebraska, a town of 400 people.
I had 24 kids in my high school class, and none of them went to Yale.
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Andrew, your thoughts on tonight of the appropriating of conservatism aesthetic with, basically, it was conservatism and drag tonight.
Well, yeah, I mean, it strikes me, Charlie, that this whole DNC is basically like, let's take the truth, flip it, Attack Donald Trump or J.D.
Vance and then call it a day and let's just see where the cards fall, right?
Let's see how the dice roll.
It is a complete inversion of the truth in almost every single possible way.
And, you know, I thought that really was the high watermark with Michelle Obama last night when she said, you know, we don't have the luxury of failing forward.
And it's like you are literally putting a woman who has failed forward her entire life and barely squeaked by and got on because she checked a bunch of boxes.
That is the epitome of failing forward.
And then you've got Tim Walz who just gets picked because they needed a white guy that wouldn't be too ambitious and not Jewish on the ticket.
Hate to call a spade a spade, but that, I mean, that is, yesterday was a real high watermark for that.
And then Tim Walz to come in here appropriating sort of this like flannel wearing Midwestern values, gun-toting thing, when he stands diametrically opposed to all those values.
And anybody who understands those values or embodies them truly, understands just what a fraud Tim Walz is,
but this is their whole play.
Their whole play is that we can repeat a lie enough times until it becomes the truth,
and that's their whole game here.
That's their whole game.
And so, you know, I hope the American people aren't dumb enough to be falling for it,
but Tim Walz, to Blake's point, I think he is legitimately one of the most mediocre
human beings that I've ever seen run for office.
And that's saying something, given that Kamala Harris is at the top of the ticket.
Out of all the fish in the sea, Charlie, this is the best we've got?
I simply refuse to believe that.
But this is where we're at.
They definitely wanted to have someone who did not outshine Kamala.
I think it was the shortest vice presidential nomination speech acceptance in modern history.
What was the runtime?
18 minutes maybe, 18, 19 minutes, it was really short.
And what they're continually trying to do, the psyop that is underway,
and then I wanna throw to Jack here, is where they're trying to convince you
Kamala Harris does not have power.
So Tim Walz says, you know, clip this and send it to your undecided friends.
If you're hoping to buy a home, Kamala Harris is gonna make it more affordable.
Why hasn't she done that?
Why does she do it today?
And no matter who you are, she's gonna...
fight for grocery prices go down.
Oh, why hasn't she done that?
Why isn't she doing it today?
She's the vice president of the United States and they're really not a president.
Oh, it's because they're trying to position her as an outsider.
It is the big lie of the 2024 election.
Play cut 128.
So here, this is the part, clip and save it and send it to your undecided relatives
so they know.
If you're a middle-class family or a family trying to get into the middle class,
Kamala Harris is going to cut your taxes.
If you're getting squeezed by prescription drug prices, Kamala Harris is going to take on Big Pharma.
If you're hoping to buy a home, Kamala Harris is going to help make it more affordable.
And no matter who you are, Kamala Harris is gonna stand up and fight for your freedom to live the life that you want to lead.
Because that's what we want for ourselves, and it's what we want for our neighbors.
Jack Posobiec, your reaction.
You know, I'm hearing this neighbors line over and over.
I notice that they keep bringing that up.
That's something the Obamas did.
So I was there last night in Chicago, and you could hear that Obama had this line about the neighbor with the leaf blower, and Michelle had this line about the neighbor with the leaf blower, and she's coming to help you.
It's, what are these neighbors?
These people are multimillionaires.
Oprah Winfrey came up, she's a billionaire.
They don't have neighbors with leaf blower issues.
They're not people who live in any semblance of the real world.
Tim Walz, of course, by the way, so much to his bio that they're leaving out.
Notice nothing about his 30 trips to China before he ran for office.
Scant little about him serving in the military.
Nothing about carrying weapons of war.
Nothing about all of these times.
That when he was in Congress for all of these years, you just don't even hear anything about it.
It's, I was a public school teacher, and then I coached football.
He was a defensive coordinator, by the way, didn't actually use IVF,
and yet he talks about fertility treatments, even though IUI, the treatment that he did use
is artificial insemination, is completely different from IVF,
and as the resident Catholic, I'll sit here and say that is definitely not the same thing.
And so it's just again and again, you punch all these holes,
but I will say this, I actually thought that Tim Walz's speech,
for what it was, was better than Kamala can do it.
She's not going to be able to give a speech that that's coherent, that coherent, or that believable, at least I think he came across as someone who at least understands his talking points.
Well, he's internalized it.
But the biggest part of it is that he's also showing his weak spots because he's wearing his heart on his sleeve.
And he's clearly a guy who wears his heart on his sleeve.
And the problem with that is it opens you up very much to hotheadedness and Tim Walz is obviously a hothead.
He's someone who JD Vance is going to be easily able to get under his skin.
And you've seen this happen many times.
We go through it and the great folks over at Alpha News and Liz Collin have put together this many times
where he just snaps at press conferences.
He just snaps at reporters.
You know, he's someone who he honestly does have a superiority complex where he views himself
as better than the people around him.
We know that from his time going into China, he's very, very committed to deep ideological forms of politics that, what can I say, are shared by Chairman Mao.
So I think that if JD Vance really starts questioning, he's going to get under his skin, really starts messing with him, he is going to snap and he's going to have a huge, huge meltdown in front of the American people.
So Blake, you were messaging in the chat, and I want you to expound on this, is that people attack Trump, oh Trump talks about himself too much, Trump talks about himself too much, he's constantly, and you think back to the RNC speech, you think back, it was a long speech by Trump.
You think about it though, he was spending all that time talking about things he did, about his accomplishments.
So, Blake, can you dive into this?
Because, again, if you peel back all of the pizzazz and the fugazi fugazi, the little vapor, the magic dust, there is nothing here.
There is nothing here.
There's not an accomplishment.
They have had political power for 12 out of the last 16 years, and they're talking about, well, we're neighbors in Minnesota to each other.
Blake, Tell us what we're missing. Yeah, so this is an
administration that, so yeah, 12 of the last 16 years, including is the
incumbent administration, you are implicitly making the case that we should continue the
regime that is going now. And it's just, they don't really brag about things they've done the last
four years. I mean, there's endless abortion stuff, but that's mostly just, you know, stop the
hypothetical super total ban that Trump is going to pass, allegedly, although he's not, he says he's
not going to. And then and...
uh...
Really, that's about it.
They talk about book bans.
A lot of their stuff is basically, wouldn't it be terrible if America became more like Florida, the state everyone is moving to?
And I just thought about this.
I went and I looked up Donald Trump's speech, his RNC speech in 2020.
And if you read the details of what he talks about in that speech, as you say, he brags a lot, he runs his Donald Trump shtick, but Trump is actually the most substantive politician we have.
I'm looking through this, he talks about, he brags, I got our NATO allies to pay $130 billion more per year, and we're going to take that to $400 billion a year.
They're going to pay more for defense.
We're not going to pay as much for it.
He talks about deportations.
He says, I've deported 20,000 gang members, 500,000 illegal aliens.
I've already built 300 miles of border wall.
We're adding 10 new miles a week.
All these really concrete specifics on what he's doing.
He talks about, I approved the Keystone XL Pipeline, which then, of course, Biden got rid of because they don't like energy.
He says, I got rid of the Paris Climate Accord.
I secured, for the first time, total American energy independence.
I passed these tax cuts.
Record stock market.
I passed these restrictions on China.
I replaced NAFTA with the new US-Mexico-Canada Trade Agreement.
He, uh, let's see, he's just going through here, like, he talks about his Supreme Court judges, the number that he passed, he talks about right to try, he talks about, it's one thing after another.
Trump is very much, he has this very direct understanding of politics as, I'm going to run on promising to do stuff and I'm going to deliver by doing that stuff and then brag about it to you.
And it's really jarring to jump from that to what we have with the DNC here where it is, It's truly a staggeringly vacuous thing where I guess we're supposed to vote for Walls because he's a nice guy and a dad and a coach and they'll sometimes say he was like a good governor of Minnesota but you don't want to talk too much about the specifics because then you have to talk about letting Minneapolis get looted while he refuses to call out the guard.
You'd have to talk about... they'll talk about schools but they don't want to talk about Minnesota test scores.
Those aren't good.
They don't want to talk about murder rates.
They don't want to talk about feeding America's future, where they looted $250 million from the state while Walls was being folksy and not looking.
It's a really telling contrast.
Our hope is they can't get away with this for two months.
The Vibes election cannot go as long as they need it to go to pull this off.
Well, I think, again, this is purely anecdotal.
I don't have data to support this.
Jack has a source that I want to throw to in a sec, that it says that they're freaking out at the DNC about numbers they're seeing.
Again, Jack's sources really tend to be correct on this stuff.
But at least on the ground, I feel the laws of nature starting to kick in.
I feel that all of a sudden there's a gravitational reality that is coming into the Kamala campaign because this was not the convention they had the last two weeks of the convention, which was the coronation.
I want to play Cut 98, and then Andrew, you just kind of go right after the clip.
You said, Andrew, this kind of Obama talking about nothing with a lot of abstractions and a mirage used to work on you, and it's really fugazi fugazi.
Play Cut 98.
Andrew.
Fugazi you know what a fugazi is? Fugazi it's a fake. Yeah fugazi fugazi it's a wuzzy it's a woozy it's a
Fairy dust it doesn't exist. It's never landed. It is no matter. It's not on the elemental chart. It's not real
Andrew Yeah, I mean I'll forever be
Tarnished in the in the minds of some but I mean Obama you know Charlie you're me
Yeah, no, yeah, I mean that's why I was laughing I was thinking
Blake, to this day, still thinks I'm like a closeted liberal because I used to have positive feelings about Obama.
Look, all I'm going to say, Andrew, is he wouldn't have become president if you hadn't personally gone out and cast the deciding vote for Barack Obama to become president.
It wouldn't have happened otherwise.
It was just saying, man.
I hope I die and go to heaven and Jesus meets me and says, don't worry, it wasn't you.
That's like forever.
You're in California, it doesn't matter.
Genuinely, to Charlie's point, when I was young, I mean younger, Obama's spiel, his sort of abstraction-laden hope about the future, we're the party that does this, and we feel about this, and this is what we believe America can be, and all this stuff.
It struck me last night as I was watching Obama speak.
I was like, man, once you see it, you cannot unsee it.
And I told that to Charlie and Charlie had this amazing riff on it this morning because it's so true.
When you actually realize how Democrats speak completely in abstractions, divorced of reality, the inversion of the truth, you can't unsee it.
And it is it's it's like nails on a chalkboard.
Once you realize what it is and you realize what a mind eff it is, it's an upside down warped reality, this twilight zone of just total made up poison pills that sound really fluffy and nice to the untrained eye and the uneducated.
And I was coming out of college and Obama, he sounded like, I mean I was sick of Oh, George W. Bush's wars, and frankly, Obama was sounding some of the right notes on that.
But, you know, now I hear it and I cannot stand it.
I mean, if you force me to listen to an Obama speech, it's literally nails on a chalkboard.
And then you hear one after the other, from Pete Buttigieg to all these people, and they are flipping reality on its head.
And I just find it really offensive now, really genuinely offensive.
And I wonder what proportion, you know, of the American population, like we've lived through eight years of this.
This is not 2006 or 2004.
We've lived through Obama.
We understand that the words don't necessarily translate.
To what they sound like.
In fact, in many ways, they are the exact opposite of that, and they cause destruction, chaos, and they hollow out America.
But, you know, I think, Charlie, to your point, and I want to make one last point here, Charlie, so my first point is, I don't think it works like it did in 2008, 2006, 2004, first.
2008, 2006, 2004, first.
Secondly, I happen to think that it could have a reaction from the American population that remember,
some people look, Van Jones was saying, I've missed this president.
I didn't realize how much I missed Obama and Michelle.
I think there is a big chunk of the American population that goes, I fell for it once.
I'm not falling for that crap again.
And I think a lot of people agree.
And just to kind of, if you re-watch some of these speeches, you realize it goes from one anecdote, to the next anecdote, to attack on Trump, to an anecdote, to where they attack Trump.
They say, oh, you know, Trump goes too long, he rambles.
What is Trump usually talking about?
Oh, I was able to renegotiate NAFTA, and I was able to get NATO to pay more, and there were no new wars, and I can end a war with a phone call.
We had the best economy ever before COVID came, and we had an amazing border, and in border crossing, all-time low.
And you would think that this Democrat convention Considering they controlled the White House, and they controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House for two years.
They had unified government.
You would think this would be a parade of accomplishments.
And then we did this, and then we did that, and now we did this, and then we did that, and then we got this done, and then we got this done, and then we got this done, and then we got, we got healthcare prices down, and we fixed immigration.
No, it is not that way at all.
Jack, Can you talk about the source here that you have and what you are hearing from within Democrat circles, within Democrat circles?
I feel this on the ground again.
The ground can be misleading, but the ground is an important ingredient in analyzing and assessing the current vibe and the reality of what's happening politically.
It feels as if that the general population got the sugar high of Kamala for two weeks.
Is it possible, Jack, that they're trying to force feed a full stomach?
And the American people are starting to vomit because you can only force feed so much Kamala Harris?
Yeah, Charlie.
So when you had Mark Halperin on the other day, and you were talking about the difference between public polls and internal polls, and we were talking about how the Kamala, Super PAC chair or director, came out and said that the internal polls are a lot tighter than the public polls are looking at.
And I had a source who is a White House contact, the same one who told me that Josh Shapiro had lost the VP nomination, the same one who told me that Waltz was going to be the pick even before CNN had it.
And the latest that I've got here is swing internals for Kamala have taken a complete nosedive over the course of the events.
Dylan, Vols, Harrison and Chuck held a crisis meeting earlier.
The RFK News is not helping.
And they're currently fighting, you know, kind of discussing over whether or not to drop big cash ads attacking him right now, even before any potential endorsement if it were to come up later this week or something like that.
And it's just really something where they're looking.
And again, by the way, that still doesn't mean that the race is completely in the bag for Trump.
It means that they can see this thing is down to a knife fight.
We're talking about two, three point swings, but those swings in the states that matter that much, all of a sudden the election tips.
So you're going to see these little It's almost like a nudge in the momentum actually shifts the swing states just enough that all of the models, and we've talked about these for weeks now here, all of a sudden switch the other way, because just a couple of votes come down.
And remember, people have these completely false recollections of 2020.
It's like false memory when it comes to 2020 and 2016, where they were blowouts for Trump, blowouts for very, very close elections that came down to two to three
states and less than a hundred thousand votes in each case won the entire election.
So we're talking about a very small number of votes across a very small number of states.
It's really, I mean, I hate to say it, but it's like a five state election.
Jack, so this is, this is a running theory that I have is that Kamala Harris, she came
out big in the primary in 2020 and 2019 and she just dropped off a cliff.
And this is kind of one of our running theories in the background.
And I think why, I think, you know, the people that are very smart, that are helping prop up Kamala, know that she cannot close.
They know that she is her own worst enemy.
If you look at 2019 as a model, she dropped off a cliff.
She was, I mean, she went down, she was one of, it came in almost nearly last place in California.
Say that again?
No, I'm affirming what you're saying.
Please continue.
Yeah, no.
So my point is this.
If history is going to be our guide, Kamala came out with a big bang.
She was towards the middle of the debate stage during the primaries and then she just lost gas.
She ran out of fuel and she's not able to actually capture a real movement because she's ultimately vapid and lacking in substance.
Whereas Trump, And Charlie, you've made this point a thousand times, and I think it's well made, that when you get into September and October, Trump is fixed.
He becomes very focused.
And you made this observation, I think, today when you watched his mannerisms, the way he was focused in the crowd, when he walked out into the crowd to get the woman who had fainted.
He was way better.
He was locked in.
You noticed it.
And you know him better than anybody on this panel right now.
You saw him and you saw that look in his eye and you said, he's locked in.
He's locked in.
Something happens to Donald Trump.
And here's the evidence.
So first of all, a couple really deep thoughts.
Number one, did anyone hear a bad headline or a bad soundbite from Trump's rally today?
No.
No.
Yes, there was technically one from Newsweek, and Andrew knows the one I want.
No, it was so bad though.
You tweeted about it.
Yeah, it said, That Donald Trump had to call for a doctor.
Yes.
Okay, again, that's not the point.
Instead of saying he had to go to the crowd, Newsweek said, Donald Trump suddenly stops rallying and asks for a doctor, please.
That's their headline?
I can't.
That's their headline?
Someone should get fired for that.
Again, that's not even worth talking about.
So, the point is that Trump finishes strong, and he had an amazing rally, and he's going, I know when he's locked in, he's getting into that Tom Brady fourth quarter mode.
It reminds you, he's like, okay, you know, second quarter was fine, third quarter, maybe threw a pick, maybe a fumble, maybe, you know, you had a kind of just a rough quarter, you were just kind of on the sideline the entire time.
It kind of reminds me, guys, you've all seen those football games where, like, one team, like, the time of possession is they get, like, one possession the entire third quarter.
And, like, the other team, like, has— runs the ball for, like, 13 minutes and 41 seconds the entire third quarter.
And all of a sudden, the fourth quarter kicks in.
Trump is a closer.
He is a killer.
I talked to two reporters today, and they said that they talked to Plouffe about this.
And David Plouffe privately is like, look, we are well aware something happens to Donald J. Trump the last 45 days, where he gets tunnel vision and he just becomes a maniac.
And he gets these very, very, very hard-to-beat.
Now, I want to put 135 up on screen, or 134.
This was Kamala Harris' first event when she ran for president and announced from president in Oakland, California in 2019.
To Andrew's point, look at how she started, Andrew.
Huge.
19,000 people showed up to Kamala Harris' announcement.
This is a pattern.
The pattern is that she starts hot.
Now, the difference is that she's running against Trump, and there's enough Trump derangement and hatred to kind of be a life force behind her.
There is enough Democrat machinery to kind of keep her alive.
However, does she have enough organic charisma to be able to motivate Independence to vote for her to swing voters, people that are getting crushed by the economy.
She does not have the talent.
And this convention, I think has objectively been very well produced from an aesthetic standpoint, but from a messaging standpoint, I do not see this penetrating the American people like they hope.
Well, now the numbers girl might be interesting, but, but the, someone wants to chime in there?
Well, no, so I was going to, I was going to add on to what you're saying, Charlie, think about this.
If anybody, Is the anti-Kamala Harris.
It's Donald Trump.
So Kamala Harris, she launches her primary campaign in 2019.
She drops out before the end of the year.
She doesn't even make it to 2020 and somehow she manages because of one line of accusing, you know, Joe Biden of being a racist.
Joe Biden realizes he can't take Amy Klobuchar as his VP.
She was actually the first pick.
And so he takes Kamala Harris because she's a person of color.
That's literally why we have Kamala Harris.
She failed up.
Michelle Obama, just so we're clear.
So what's the anti-Kamala Harris?
We are 2015 to 2024.
We're nine years in to the Trump era.
And he has built a movement this wide and this expansive over nine years and we are still ride or die with this guy?
I mean, this is incredible.
You don't build a movement over nine years and think it's going to peter out in two minutes.
But guess what?
The Democrats are like, this is smoke and mirrors.
This is AstroTurf.
We know it.
We're buying it.
We're producing it.
We're creating it in a lab.
We're creating it on a Hollywood set.
And so the people behind Kamala know they need to keep this going for another 75 days in order to get across the finish line.
And she's an untested element in that.
She is the untested variable.
In some ways, pulling Joe Biden out this late is the perfect formula for Kamala Harris, because I think they secretly know that she cannot keep this up for very long.
She is a perfect one-term candidate in that sense, if they can get her across the finish line.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump has developed and cultivated and grown and expanded this movement over nine years, and we are still with him.
He is the anti-Kamala, and they know it.
I think that's super smart.
I want to just thank some of our members here.
I want to thank Frank, George, Hannah.
I want to thank Robert as well.
Members.CharlieKirk.com.
That is Members.CharlieKirk.com.
You guys get your MAGA hat here.
Okay, so let's kind of go to some side news here, which I think is really important.
Blake, some breaking news.
I have no inside information.
I want to be very clear.
I have made some calls.
I have no inside information whatsoever.
And so I have nothing to give, nothing to say about this other than we're hosting an event in Phoenix, Arizona.
And RFK is also doing a press conference in Phoenix, Arizona.
And we'll see if those two things, if he ends up coming to the event.
I have no idea what's going on with that.
I just want to just as a full disclaimer.
NBC News.
RFK Jr.
plans to end his 2024 presidential bid and endorse former President Trump.
Two sources say that is from election wizard NBC News.
Blake, I don't know if that is true, but let's pretend it is true.
Blake, what is the significance of RFK Jr.
endorsing Donald Trump?
Well, let's just cut right to it.
If you look at polls that break out the race multiple ways, RFK, he's not polling where he was a year ago or where he was in January, but he is around.
He's been getting 3%, 4%, sometimes 5 or 6% on these polls, including in swing states.
Uh, it's been speculated.
Is he taking more from Biden?
Is he taking more from Trump?
I think, or well, I should, I say Biden, is he taking more from Harris?
I think one thing that's become a little clear is once Biden dropped out and Harris came in, there was clearly this group of RFK voters who were just very demoralized Democrats upset about Biden.
And those people went back to Harris.
And I think as a result of that, RFK supporters who were still going at this point were taken more from potential Donald Trump votes.
So, if RFK drops out and endorses Trump, I think it's pretty clear that that's very likely to help us more than it is likely to help Democrats.
And even if it's a half percent, one percent, that is a huge swing in a race where basically 45% of the vote either way is just locked in.
I think it'll transform the race.
What you'll see is very suddenly the press will get way more interested in RFK than they've been the last six months.
They'll start interrogating Trump about it.
They'll treat him like he's got two running mates.
RFK will be his second running mate.
Blake, to your point, and I told this to Charlie, within, I don't know, 30 minutes of the announcement that RFK was going to be having this press conference about his path forward in Phoenix, In Arizona.
I mean, I got called by 12 national media reporters.
12.
Within 30 minutes.
It was like, bing, bing, bing, bing.
You know, because I sort of run comms for Turning Point.
So everybody, I'm in everybody's phones.
So I start getting these calls.
And I'm telling Charlie, I'm like, do we have anything to give these people?
And Charlie's like, nothing.
Nothing.
So I was like, hey, I wish I could help you.
That's not a joke.
If I knew something, I'd tell you.
I know nothing.
So we're all flying blind here.
I would have gone on background.
I would have done something.
But it was, I mean, I'm telling you, the interest in this Friday event went through the roof today, went through the absolute roof.
Twelve national reporters.
We're talking prominent, top, top tier A-list reporters for the top papers and the top outlets in the country within minutes.
So the eyes of the world are going to be on Phoenix, Arizona on on Friday.
And, you know, listen, we're along for the ride just like the rest of the rest of you.
But it's it's It's a huge, huge development if this ends up materializing.
The timing on that, the timing on that is really good because it'll be, Kamala will give her Thursday night address, you're coming out of it, they'll be getting probably the beginnings of their post-convention bump, and then you turn around the very next day, it's RFK endorsing Trump, and hopefully with some sort of, if this is happening, we're probably going to get a speech where he says why, I think he'll at least have credibility as a guy who's running as a third way, as a moderate, and he'll come out and he'll say, actually, the Democrat ticket, Harris, Walz, they're really radical on all of these things.
I'm a lifelong liberal.
I have liberal credentials on all these things.
Check my last name.
And I'm going to say these guys are really out there and scary.
And I think the timing of that on us is going to be really good.
It's going to kind of put a hard wall on what the Democrat momentum is going to be.
And then all we have to worry about is how do we survive the media doing its
sudden pivot to, oh, we're going to report on RFK a lot.
We're going to go after Trump a lot.
Trump is now responsible for everything RFK's ever said.
Trump probably helped RFK kill that bear and bury it in Central Park or whatever he did.
We just have to get through that.
I think that's manageable.
I think on balance, this is going to be a good thing for the campaign and hopefully a good thing for America.
Yeah, and just imagine, guys, I mean, this might be the most 2024 thing ever that a Kennedy endorses Donald Trump in late August, the day after the DNC.
I mean, this is the most, if it happens, that... It's like those...
It's like those jokes they'd tell where they'll say, like, if you sent a newspaper back to 2004, it's like, Donald Trump elected president.
Now just go back to 2016 and you want to take a newspaper from this year that says, Robert Kennedy Jr.
endorses Donald Trump.
Not only that, Robert Kennedy Jr.
endorses Donald Trump, mentions Trump being shot in endorsement speech.
You're like, what the fresh heck am I reading?
Right?
It's like, you know, Trump four times indicted, Trump four times indicted and shot, you know, appeals to the Kennedy family.
You're like, in what universe am I living?
So, so Jack, let me ask you.
Go ahead, Jack.
I was going to say, my favorite one of those of all, there's this meme of Donald Trump, but it's like, it's like, you know, back in the 80s and it's Donald Trump, 1980.
And he says, why did time travelers keep trying to kill me?
I'm just a real estate developer.
Yeah.
And so, so Jack, let me kind of, let me, that's very funny.
Let me throw it back to Jack.
If RFK ends up, Endorsing Donald Trump.
If.
Who will have had the better week consequentially and more strategically and from an infrastructure standpoint?
Kamala Harris or Donald Trump?
This was supposed to be Kamala Harris's convention, the high point.
But you look at RFK removing himself from example, the Arizona ballot, who actually ends up having the better week?
Yeah, so I was We were on the same wavelength here, because what that would do is, as you and I are already discussing, and from what I'm hearing is being discussed inside the headshed of the Kamala team, and by the way, Tony West, who is a big advisor to Kamala right now, if you notice, Tony West was not very high energy when he came out and spoke tonight.
His voice sounded kind of whiny, he just didn't seem like he had a lot of he looked like he had just seen a ghost.
So this is somebody who certainly is very high up within Kamala's inner circle right now,
and someone who is directly privy to these types of discussions, or would be.
So the idea being then that Trump would steal all of the thunder of this week,
because essentially this entire convention has been a mishmash of all of the Democratic coalition.
You had the chaos that was outside, the protests, the riots of some sort,
and then you come in and this was, it was supposed to be Joe Biden, now he's kicked out.
He leaves the first night, then Obama's in, everything's good, Tim Walz says,
this just, I'm gonna say it, it's just a weird night.
The whole night was really weird.
I don't think there was any one standout person.
I think Tim Walz did an okay job, but at the same time, he didn't do anything that really stood out.
And the question all week has been, how will Kamala perform?
Now, we know she's going to be on teleprompter, so I think she will do okay, because she is generally good when she's on the prompter.
It's when you get her off that she's not.
She'll be fine.
At the same time, nothing happened this week that you didn't really expect not to happen, but boom, Friday, is what everyone's already thinking about.
It's, can Kamala Harris become likable in extended periods of time?
And number two, can she present any policies that are convincing?
And I don't think that she necessarily can.
Andrew, speaking of which, if you watch the entire DNC, you would think you're living in an alternate reality, where you had a sheriff on the border.
It's remarkable.
Andrew, can you riff about this and educate our audience here?
Yeah, no, absolutely.
This infuriated me.
This was Sheriff Javier Salazar, who, by the way, is on tape begging for the administration to pay the Texas border attention earlier.
My first question is, how much did they pay this man?
I mean, there's got to be an explanation for this.
We have it clip 115.
I think we should play it.
This is a shocking Inversion of the truth and Charlie you you say it.
Well, I forget exactly how you say it, but it's not like It's like it this whole I can do the whole routine. Yeah do
the routine Yeah, it's I got it from Tucker, and it's it's really it's
really good. So here's the routine you go in and your kid is eating cookies and
He's not supposed to be eating cookies, and you say to your son. Hey um and he's got he's got crumbs all over his face
And he's a hey how many cookies did you eat? Oh? I didn't eat any cookies. Yes, you did come on
I mean how many cookies did you eat he said I didn't any cookies you did
Wait, did I eat the cookies?
And all of a sudden you're thinking, you're questioning yourself, like, wait, did I eat the cookies?
And you're thinking, you're like, wait a second, no, you ate the cookies!
You have crumbs on your face!
Like, you're the cookie kid!
And he's like, no, no, you ate the cookies.
You ate all of them.
And it's worse than lying.
Yeah, and the cookies, in this instance, Charlie, are 10 million illegals that poured through the border and they still like we see them on the city streets we see them in our neighborhoods they're taking up hotel rooms in Chicago literally Chicago and the urban blacks have gone on on tape a thousand times saying they're taking over our neighborhoods and we can't deal with this we don't have any money what about us this is a nationwide problem that you can't just
Act like it doesn't exist.
And yet, 115, this is a sheriff from Texas saying Kamala's the one who's tough on the border.
Trump is the bad one on the border.
Are you kidding me?
115, we should just play it and we can react on the other side.
When Donald Trump comes down to Texas, stands next to officers in uniforms just like mine, he's not there to help us.
Don't think that.
Not for a second.
He is a self-serving man.
I mean, look, just like when he killed the border bill.
He just made our jobs harder.
Now Kamala, on the other hand, has been fighting border crime for years.
She's gone down to Mexico and worked to stop the traffickers.
And when the traffickers didn't stop, she put them in jail.
Now, down in my neck of the woods, we call that fooling around and finding out.
I may be paraphrasing a bit.
Shocking.
I mean, this is so... This is pure prostitution.
This guy is being used as a hooker for the Democrat Party.
You know what he got?
He got promised to become head of DHS or head of ICE.
He's been like, hey, can you come up on stage and brazenly lie?
And he's like, no, I can't say.
Everybody knows that's not true.
Trump, the Border Patrol loves Trump.
Trump had the record low, you know.
Should you make it up?
And he's like, nobody's going to believe this.
No, no, no.
Just trust us.
Just say it.
You know what it is?
So yeah, Jack, I want to get, sorry to interrupt Andrew.
Jack, this is sophistry.
Jack, can you educate our audience on what a sophist is?
Yeah, so sophistry is you're using the you're using obviously fallacious arguments, you're doing so for the purposes of being deceptive.
And essentially, what you're doing is you're constantly making sure to use these the but you're doing so in a way that's very, that's very slick, some a way that's, you know, it might seem plausible superficially. So if you're not, superficially,
so if you're not, you know, digging too deep into something, if you're not thinking
about it, you're just sort of going along with the flow, you're thinking, oh, this is a, you know,
this is a pretty clever argument, you know, it sort of makes sense what they're saying, until you
actually start thinking about the nuts and the bolts of it. And you realize that it's completely wrong. So
typically, these appeals to emotion are found in these, in these cases, well, so you know, sophistry
is always going to be these ideas of, we need to do these things, because they are for all people.
We need to be, it's like saying things, we need to welcome all people to come in.
Anyway, you don't get to define, I think Michelle was saying this last night, you, no one gets to define who is a, you know, who is an American, these types of things.
They're completely ridiculous.
That's not what we're talking about.
We're pointing out who exactly it is that we want here because we're vetting people,
because we have an economic interest.
They're not talking about the situation as it actually is on the ground
where we have millions of people who have been pouring in.
And that is not sophistry.
That is us actually talking about the numbers.
And you can go to even DHS, even our own government, which lies about our jobs numbers to a million,
will at least admit that we have that many gotaways and that many interactions.
He's doing this on a day where we found out that the Biden administration lost track
of 320,000 little kids.
Yep.
320,000 little kids!
And he's going up there with a straight face and lying to the American public that it's actually Trump who's doing it for a photo op and he's the one who's self-serving.
In his uniform.
My God.
In his uniform.
My good... like...
We are in the 1984 world.
We have literally pierced the veil.
Look, here's something I have to say though, and Blake, I know that you know what I'm talking about, is that this stuff is effective on a lot of people.
This stuff is very effective on low-information voters.
And people who watch politics regularly, people who are up on the news regularly, people who are following every little In and out of things that are going on in politics, like, you know, those of us who are in this business, those of us who watch this kind of content on a regular basis, you know, we're a very small percentage of actual voters out there.
So most people, they tune into something.
That's also why the debates are so important, by the way, because that's one of the only times that normies actually tune into politics because, hey, it's fight night.
That's why Joe Biden could not recover from that disastrous debate. And Nancy Pelosi had to take
him out, take him out like, like, Nikki, or no, gosh, what was her name? Kristi Noem with the,
with the dog in the gravel pit. No, so with the, you know, poor Snickers. So, you know, cricket,
right, poor cricket. And this, this is, this is effective.
I'm sorry, but it's effective in current and modern American politics.
Nixon used to talk about this in the jump from print media to TV, and it's only gotten worse since his day.
Andrew, can you talk about the production value of the DNC?
You have a take on this.
Well, yeah.
So Angela, one of our producers, mentioned in the chat, and it's really, I think, apt.
Somebody who used to work in Hollywood, he says, even though the production was good, and we can all acknowledge visually, you know, Michelle Obama's speech was fantastic, whatever, well delivered, right?
I mean, it's like nails on a chalkboard to me, same with Barack, but it's good.
It's ultra, but it's ultra woke, is what Angela says.
Increasingly, that type of program doesn't sell.
Here, and Jack, I'm thinking about something you and I have discussed before, and we talked about how maybe like there's this theory on the internet that like, Peak woke was like November 2023.
You see this in Hollywood.
Hollywood, if any industry... They just cancelled the new Star Wars!
Well, exactly, and they just cancelled it.
Here's the thing... Remember the gayest Star Wars ever?
The gayest Star Wars ever, and it got cancelled after one season.
Imagine that.
Here's the point.
Hollywood has realized that, guess what?
Hot girls sell.
They tried to do the body positivity thing.
It turns out, hey, you know what?
We had it right in the 80s and the 90s.
They've tried to do these forced storylines of their, you know, bending and twisting scripts to fit in these woke ideologies and make it work.
And it turns out people just tune out.
And so, you know, you've got that Chicago Alderman.
I don't know what clip that is, Ryan.
We have it, I know.
Uh, who was on with Laura Ingraham last night and he said, this is not expanding the Democrat tent at all.
And we're seeing that in the betting markets.
Charlie, you've, you've just, uh, put that up.
Trump just got another.
You gotta be careful with betting markets, but it's very interesting.
It's happening during a convention, but it's noteworthy.
But this is my point.
So, so they are, they have not caught on yet because if anybody loves this woke garbage that actually doesn't sell to the masses, It's the Democrat activist base that's going to be very well represented at a DNC.
They are the ones that need this stuff, so the people that are programming this event are playing to their base because they have to.
I'm telling you, they are going to find out, exactly like Hollywood did, and is, is currently in the process of finding out, it doesn't sell.
The ratings suck, nobody buys your tickets, I'm telling you there is only so much of an audience for this.
I think the Chicago Alderman, yeah he was on Fox and with Ingram, And I take it with a grain of salt, but I actually think it's smart.
The Democrat Party is not a leading indicator in this.
They are a lagging indicator because even Hollywood has figured out that that dog doesn't hunt.
Let's go right here.
This is Democrat Chicago alderman Raymond Lopez agreeing with you, Andrew, saying this is not expanding the tent.
Play cut 89.
It's Alderman Lopez.
Great to see you.
Democrats winning any new voters at this convention?
I highly doubt it.
I think this is all playing to their own base, not trying to recruit new people, because clearly the Democratic Party, my party, is not interested in talking about what matters.
How are you going to keep people safe?
How are you going to secure the border?
And how are you going to deal with the 8 million undocumented individuals that they let in under Kamala Harris's lead?
Because right now, we're like in this beauty pageant of hypocrisy going on right now.
A beauty pageant of hypocrisy?
Yeah, because we say one thing and we're doing the exact opposite.
You have the most American of American cities where we're telling people to come here, feel welcome, enjoy our beautiful city, and 100% it's a beautiful city, but yet we had to board up every single store in the surrounding area to keep it safe from looters and rioters that our mayor, Brandon Johnson, has welcomed here and said, come and show us what your true colors are.
It's really pitiful.
So, Blake, you tend to have sobering opinions when we get too excited about ourselves.
Do you think this Democrat convention is expanding the tent and winning new people, objectively?
Objectively, I think they're taking the right approach.
I think they're emphasizing the right issues.
I think the corny Hicklib stuff will work on some people.
It won't alienate too many people.
I do think they are stuck with certain things they're struggling to overcome, and I think their timing on a few specific things has been suspect.
I think it's very interesting that Kamala face-planted really hard on that price gouging thing.
She dropped that right before the convention, so Sunday and Monday, CNN, like mainstream outlets, not us, I say mainstream, Lib Schill outlets come out and are saying, oh yeah, economists agree that this is really stupid.
This is really stupid, Anderson.
Well, they don't think she should do this.
And so that kind of went flat for them.
And then now they have the RFK issue, this one million jobs thing, I think, that Did we hit this earlier that the Bureau of Labor Statistics comes out?
Not only that, no.
Well, Blake, Blake, we have an amazing tape here.
We haven't played this yet.
So this is Gina Raimondo, who is the Commerce Secretary.
So the people who do the jobs reports is under her department, and she's acting as if she's never heard about it.
No, it's a real thing.
And so, again, this is Gina Raimondo, who is like, well, I don't know about any of these numbers.
Donald Trump is a liar.
And the ABC host is literally like, you realize that your own government is reporting these numbers.
PlayCut 136.
When you hear that, do you potentially think that this new numbers could be a liability for this campaign?
No, when I hear that, first of all, I don't believe it, because I've never heard Donald Trump say anything truthful.
It is, though, from the Bureau of Labor.
I don't, I'm not familiar with that.
We're gonna get the essay that's like, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, a well-known alt-right organization producing, like, But yeah, this just comes out, and it's a big number.
They've been doing this all year.
We've talked about it, you know.
They'll say, oh yeah, we added 300,000 jobs in January, and then a month later, okay, we overestimated that by 80,000.
It's becoming amusingly consistent at this point.
I think maybe eight of the past ten months or so, they've had to revise their estimate downward.
And now, after revising all those downward, they've done a super estimate and said, Yeah, 800,000 jobs under what we estimated it to be.
That's a lot!
That's an article I saw.
That is one in every 200 jobs in the United States that they just whoops-a-daisy miscounted.
And she's like, you know, she says, little do you know, the Bureau of Land Labor Statistics is full of white supremacists and insurrectionists have taken over the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
And so just analyzing the, again, I don't want to get too ahead of ourselves, but If anyone on the panel disagrees, you guys can chime in, then we'll wrap this up soon.
Does anyone feel as if, after this convention, like, wow, we have a real problem on our hands.
This is really tough.
You know, it's kind of if you're, again, I'm not a boxer, I don't do any of that, but the metaphor would be like, you're anticipating the best punch from the opposition, and you realize the punch doesn't have nearly as much zest Or zing, as you would have imagined.
Whoever wants the chime in, take it.
What do they have to look forward to after this? That's what I think is the best thing that we can say is...
Sentencing.
Sentencing, I suppose. Yeah. They'll have that.
And even that, it's not totally clear what they want.
Like, if they haul Donald Trump off to prison...
Get what they've dreamed of for a decade at this point.
They get the Trump mugshot.
They get Trump in an orange jumpsuit.
I think if they get that, they'll be celebrating a lot for 12 hours and then they'll suddenly look and go, what did we do?
I think there would be a referendum again.
I think that you'd have JD Vance unleashed.
I think he's ready for it.
I think that we would not have an early voting problem.
That's for sure.
But yeah, no, but Jack, if they listen to their mobs and their hordes, if Judge Mershawn listens to lock him up, lock him up, then he's going to Rikers.
But what do they look forward to?
I mean, she has a debate.
Please do that.
Please, please do that.
Please, please give Donald Trump a prison sentence.
Please do that.
Explain it.
begging you, Wan-Mershan.
Explain it.
I will donate money to you.
I will donate money to Wan-Mershan's daughter's whatever, you know, things.
Because if they actually give Donald Trump a prison sentence after he's taken a bullet for democracy,
after he's been convicted in this absolute shame trial, after the two impeachments over absolutely nothing,
after the spying on him all the way back in 2016 that we barely talk about anymore,
then they're gonna go and actually claim that they're gonna put him in jail over something
that no one's ever even been convicted for.
I honestly just believe that the normal people in this country will be completely sick of it,
and you would see a landslide win for Trump.
You would see an absolute landslide win.
By the way, what I do think that they would do, Um, I.
Of course, is if you look at the scheduling dates for it, what they would probably end up doing is they would say, okay, he's sentenced, but his, you know, his report on date would be like November 6 or November 7.
Or something like that.
So it would be about two months, two months after.
So you know, better hope those better hope those mail-in ballots get counted quick and make sure that everybody's doing their their vote chasing and and in the swing states because yeah, his his report date could be very close to like the day after Election Day.
So, yeah, I just... What else they have to look forward to?
Blake, they have a debate.
There also could be three or four other things that just go wrong for Kamala Harris.
She's gonna have to take questions at some point.
Tim Wall's gonna have to answer for the stolen valor thing, which, by the way, he dodged his military service almost completely tonight in his speech.
It was all about being a coach, and it was all about that.
They're basically like, yo, bro, do not mention the military thing.
Just, like, do not do that.
So he completely dodged that.
There's a VP debate which J.D.
Vance is going to excel at, and Tim Walz's own admission is that he's, quote, not a very good debater, and J.D.
Vance is excellent.
He is terrific.
So, look, I mean, you have more chess pieces, if you look at it as a chess game, you have way more moves on the Trump side than on the Kamala side.
Andrew, do you think we're analyzing that correctly as we begin to wrap this up?
I mean, Yes, I actually really do.
I paused a moment just to assess whether I sincerely felt that way.
I don't ever want to give hopium.
I'm just genuinely becoming more and more convinced that there are very few plays here.
I think the Democrats realize that they don't have anything to run on, and so they basically have to, like I said, present the inversion of the truth, and they have to Essentially promote a positive vision and they have to act like Kamala is some outsider.
She's not an incumbent.
They have to sort of remake her.
So they're betting on something that is completely astroturf and they're using a candidate that is not proven that she can close.
She's not proven that she can hold.
A real movement.
She can't foster it.
She can't encapsulate it.
She can't put it upon her shoulders and carry it across the finish line.
Trump has proven all of those things.
And Trump is a proven closer.
He's a proven winner, despite 2020.
And I just think, you know, Waltz is not a value add, really.
I genuinely think what you're going to see when all said and done, you're going to see A male vote that is going to... The margin of victory for Trump in the male vote, if he does win, is going to be historic.
I think Trump is going to bleed less with female voters.
I don't think Waltz fixes that problem for him at all.
I mean, we had that Dana Bash clip tonight where she basically admitted that Waltz is essentially a stand-in for low testosterone men.
I don't think men are buying it.
I think this is why everybody on this panel, where there's four guys here, This is hard to watch.
It's hard to listen to, genuinely.
I give high marks for production value.
I give high marks for the poetry of the speeches.
I give high marks for some of the innovative thinking of doing a rally in Wisconsin while the DNC is ongoing.
I mean, I'm jealous genuinely, and I'm not afraid to admit it, of a lot of their strategy and a lot of their sort of like forward thinking.
I think there's some very intelligent people here.
I just genuinely come back to the fact that the raw material they're working with is terrible.
And I think Kamala is mediocre.
I think she's phony, inauthentic, and historically unlikable.
Yeah, so I don't think this is hopium.
I'm searching my soul right now as I'm saying this, and I don't believe it.
I'm not saying we're going to win.
I just say we have more chess moves than they do.
Let's play cut 124.
But they are doing so in...
Trying to put forward male figures, Tim Walz being one of them, Doug Emhoff last night, who can speak to men out there who might not be the sort of Testosterone-laden, you know, gun-toting kind of guy who wants to listen to Hulk Hogan and the kind of players that came out at the RNC, or might want to listen to that, but also, in addition, understand that it's okay in 2024 to be a man comfortable in his own skin who supports a woman.
And that's something that they really are trying to work on with male voters beyond the base.
What a tell!
Blake, uh, let, yeah, let's, let's begin to summarize this up.
Blake, they're trying to mobilize the low T vote.
I mean, T levels are falling.
They like to say they're the coalition of the ascendant, and the only thing that's ascendant in America is dropping T-Levels.
They're playing for the future.
It's just, is it a future people want to be in?
I don't think so.
I can't relate.
Apparently higher T-Levels make all your hair fall out, so I think I can't, I'm not welcome in their coalition.
Blake, final thoughts?
You know, it could be a lot worse.
I feel like we've had a lot of material to work with.
I feel like we have a lot of things to look forward to, both the end of this week and in the months to come.
Just don't get overconfident.
Don't get too blackpilled.
Just go out, fight the election, win the election.
It's as simple as that, Charlie.
And then we can talk about something else.
Then we can actually have live streams and shows about other things that are not the election.
It's difficult to even comprehend a post-election reality.
I know.
It's like the end of the world is coming.
I know.
No, it's like we're going to have different guests on.
There's so much philosophy and beauty and truth and goodness and amazing guests that are like, no, not election-related.
Go.
Jack, final thoughts?
Yeah, I think, and I think Andrew will probably agree with me here.
I think the media set the bar too high.
I think the media set expectations way too high for the DNC.
I think that going in, we knew this was going to be chaotic.
We knew they were scrambling around at the last minute.
They had to change everything.
Remember, this was supposed to be a Joe Biden-focused DNC, and Kamala Harris was going to be the vice president, and they had to change Everything at the last minute.
And I think that's what's showing here.
I think that's why you're seeing so many of the scheduling issues, so many of the logistics issues.
I think the media was telling us that this was going to be this, you know, remember Camelot?
And, you know, is she going to be Obama 2008 all over again?
And the reason that we're seeing it for what it really is, is, you know, it's it's a political convention.
And legitimately, their coalition has always had a lot of oddities to it.
That they are more than willing to make part, based on their ideology, make part of their mainstream appeal.
You know, this isn't like, you know, Donald Trump bringing up the 1980s icons like Hulk Hogan, 1980s, 90s, you know, even the 2000s.
And so, you know, you're really seeing the issue there of her poll numbers, her standing, all of this, you know, all of this Headwind that she had on her back was completely fugazi to
begin with and now that we see the reality settling in it's like no
It's it's just a regular political fight and Donald Trump actually is more than capable of winning one of those
Well Jack when you talk about how the final finder yeah, how the media had to
Really spend a lot of its capital to get her off the starting block here because
You know, I think there was a real question of whether or not Kamala could close
the delegates if she could consolidate support
There was some reporting that said that Obama said, listen, I'm going to get back.
I'm going to get behind you if we get rid of Joe.
But if you can't get your poll numbers up, then we're going to have an open convention.
I think there was a concerted effort.
Uh, within the Democrat apparatus to really spend a lot of its capital gathering momentum behind Kamala Harris.
And so, Charlie, I think one of the most intelligent, like, insightful points made all night is that you're saying the first two weeks of the announcement post Kamala becoming the nominee was really... That was the convention.
That was their convention, and they blew their load.
This is Kamala overkill.
That's what this is.
Now this is Kamala overkill.
What you're going to see here is that, you know, like I said earlier, Trump has been building this movement for nine years and we still love the guy.
Kamala has a very short shelf life and I think you're going to start feeling Kamala fatigue in a very serious way even amongst her influencers who are all paid shills.
You're going to start seeing this also in the mainstream media and you're going to start seeing the honest journalist come to the fore and really criticize some of these more ridiculous policy proposals that she's going to be forced to put forward if we keep the pressure on her.
And again, just to summarize, Jack just put this up on Telegram.
You notice, Tim Walz didn't say anything about Kamala's record.
It's always about, she's the type of person that really cares.
She's the type of person.
There's no record.
There's nothing.
And that is, I'm telling you, you connect the dots.
I think they're going to be in some trouble if we do our job.
All right guys, thank you so much.
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