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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 54 — Olympic Breakdancing? Who is Pro Price-Gouging?

In this week’s ThoughtCrime Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer, and Blake Neff discuss important questions like:   -Should breakdancing be back for the 2028 Olympics? What other sports should be added? -Will Kamala’s plan to cap food prices get her the White House even if it wrecks America?Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I believe we have Blake, we have Tyler, and do we have Jack?
That's right, we have a full roster here.
Blake, Tyler, and Jack.
Lots to get into, and the last couple weeks we've kind of been doing political analysis.
Blake, I have to say, I saw a little bit of breakdancing.
I was pretty impressed by what I saw, but the world is losing its mind.
And I saw this clip of some Australian woman, and I finally said to myself, I could do that.
I could be an Olympic athlete.
I finally found something I could do.
Not all the breakdancers, but one in particular.
Blake, explain.
All right, so we have new sports every Olympics.
They always are trying to make it hip and cool for young people, and it was really convoluted.
The full story is funny.
There are ballroom dancing enthusiasts who've been fighting for years to have ballroom dancing in the Olympics, but it's perceived as an old-fashioned activity.
If you want to call it a sport, go for it.
And so they thought, we need to get something in the door.
And so they got the International Olympic Committee to add breakdancing, which they renamed Breaking, just breaking, to make it a sport.
And they added it in, and they had at least a one-off gold medal breaking event for men's and women's in the Olympics in Paris.
They did it in the final weekend of the Olympics just before the closing ceremonies.
And rather notoriously, this woman calling herself Ray Gunn, they actually went by their dancer nicknames in the Olympics, which was pretty amazing.
and she entered as the woman from Australia and she was not very good at break dancing.
We can see our B-roll there.
She's more impressive than I would be.
You're pretty confident you could do it, Charlie.
I probably could not do these moves.
I am truly the worst dancer in the world.
I mean, if it was my job...
No, I mean, but that's not dancing.
That's just kind of rhythmic movements.
I mean, if that's your full-time job to be an Olympic athlete, is there anything that you're looking there, guys, that you're saying, no, I can't do that?
I want the breakdancing dad to get in on this.
Do you guys remember the breakdancing dad who was having that, like, war on TikTok with his daughter?
He was, like, this 60-year-old guy, and she was, like, attacking him, and then he started making these, like, really long, detailed videos about her.
It went super viral.
Yeah, that was really brutal, because I just came away kind of thinking less of both people involved.
I, like, it was a very sad... I love the way...
I love the way he was explaining things.
He was a 65-year-old breakdancing dad, Trump supporter, and would have these really detailed rebuttals to his daughter.
He'd be like, she says I didn't raise them and went off to pursue breakdancing.
Well, here's photos of us together.
Here's a list of things that I got her for her birthday overall.
And he would have each itemized gift.
You know, when I look, there's something about the breakdancing community.
I'm telling you, this is not, you know, I didn't even think, can I just say, I didn't know that breakdancing was a thing after like Vanilla Ice stopped being a thing.
So where is all this coming from?
So Charlie's confident he could do it, but let's show, just to show it's not all Ray Gunn doing weird kangaroo moves.
To be clear, hold on, to be clear, I could not, I could score a zero in breakdancing.
The people that actually won medals did stuff that I couldn't even get close to doing.
Show 158, show 158.
It's b-roll, it's b-roll, so you can keep talking, but I wanted to show it.
And that is Phil Wizard, the gold medal for... He was from Canada, I believe.
No, I mean, come on.
That's completely out of control.
I couldn't even get... Of course!
No, no, no, no.
No, that's what I said.
I actually watched some of the breaking final and I was like, I can't do any of that.
And then this Australian person goes viral and I didn't see it live.
I was like, this has got to be a joke.
Did you guys watch the wall climbing?
I did not know it was sport climbing.
That was really impressive.
The only part of the Olympics I've actually watched.
Oh man, I could not, as soon as that came on, I couldn't take my eyes off wall climbing.
Is it speed climbing?
It's speed climbing.
It's like straight up the face of a wall without hardly even touching anything within seconds.
It was the craziest thing to watch.
Are they like harnessed?
They're harnessed, but they go so fast that it's like they hardly touch anything.
It's like Spider-Man walking up a wall.
It's crazy.
It's like they levitate.
That's pretty cool.
I'm trying to think what else could they... So there's a big debate on whether breakdancing belongs.
And what's funny is a lot of people in the breaking community, they debate this because for some of them they say it's an artistic aesthetic thing.
And once you make it a sport, you have to be able to judge it.
objectively. So like you take away, you know, you won't innovate and break dancing because you won't
get prizes for that necessarily. And that apparently is what happened in figure skating,
like figure skating used to be a much more artistic medium.
And then as the Winter Olympics got more popular, you had these codified ways of scoring
figure skating, and now it's much more rote what you actually do. And.
And same with gymnastics, I think.
There's much more emphasis on basically, can you do this many backflips, which has been great for the US because we're good at producing backflip doers, but there's way less Wasn't something that happened with skateboarding?
exercise than there used to be.
So it's kind of an interesting question.
I looked this up and in the old like in the really early Olympics,
they had things like like painting and sculpting were in the Olympics
and you would just do a painting or sculpture on an athletic subject
and you could get a medal in that be kind of cool to bring that back.
Wasn't wasn't something something that happened with skateboarding
because I remember like like Tony Hawk won a gold medal or something
in the 90s, but then like they removed it from the Olympics and
and then they brought it back or something.
Like, it was... I'm trying to remember.
I've done enough Tim Pool episodes where I'm sure he's talked about it, and I'm, like, looking at my phone.
But I know that that's something that went on with skateboarding, where it was sort of like, it was a sport, then it wasn't a sport, then it is going to be an Olympic sport.
That it was won again?
I think it's only been... Maybe it was a demonstration event earlier.
They sometimes do that.
They used to do demonstration events that wouldn't get medals.
Right.
Now they only do... I think they've only done it in this Olympics and the last one.
And apparently Japan is amazing at Olympic skateboarding.
They have won... There are eight total gold medals in skateboarding in the last two Olympics.
And Japan's won five of them.
So America's getting clowned on in Olympic skateboarding, it seems.
Blake, what is the point of the Olympics?
Why do you think that the Olympics exist and are they serving that purpose?
Well, I don't know.
I think originally the idea was, like, the Olympics should be about, you know, the brotherhood of mankind and celebrating high levels of academic achievement.
But it appears the main things about the Olympics are allowing, like, various autocracies to show off and also, like, I don't know, like, weird demonic opening ceremonies.
Those seem to be the two main purposes of the Olympics.
And then they have some athletic stuff.
I'm a sucker for the Olympics.
I like it.
Obviously, all the pagan stuff, whatever.
Some of my best memories growing up were watching the Olympics and cheering for the country I loved.
Of course, it's fallen from grace and some of the athletes are just hard to watch and how they behave and how they disregard the country.
Let's put 159, as I'm saying.
This is Tyler's speed climbing.
But I will say, despite China has an entire bureau of Olympic training, just so we are clear.
That's Tyler's sport right there.
It's insane.
I agree.
It was super impressive.
Like in six seconds, you get up the wall.
That's the women too.
The men were going faster.
Just kidding.
Oh yeah.
China's, well no it's true.
China spends hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe even billions of their government money
trying to develop the best sharpshooters.
We don't do any of that in this country, which is, I think, kind of cool.
The fact that it's all largely organic, and it's largely just people that dedicate themselves to the craft.
And we tied China in gold medals.
That's all that really matters, by the way, the gold medal count.
There's like this new psy-op, by the way, in the media, where they try to tell you, oh, America's leading in total medals, but we're tied.
All that matters is gold medals.
You can easily get up It was our 2008 Olympics, yeah.
I think that was the first time they did that.
Yeah, when China won all the golds.
And by the way, when you host an Olympics, you have a huge built-in advantage.
Not only is it home field advantage, the crowd is with you.
You know all of the training grounds early.
You're able to get access to all of them months, sometimes even years in advance.
You also are able to fill a lot of slots if you're the host country.
Just by being the host country, you're able to have more people compete.
So there's definitely home field advantage.
That's why France did well.
That's why UK London did well in 2012.
Anyway, I'm a sucker for the Olympics.
What it should be, Jack, is an appreciation of excellence in people that really harness their craft and what country is able to achieve that excellence.
Collectively, if you will, in the best way.
And I mean collectively in the most non-communistic, non-Kamala Harris way possible.
What the Olympics has kind of become is, and Blake is right, is what country can either cheat the most.
China's their bunch of cheaters.
Russia was not even in this Olympics.
By the way, you want to talk about a complete blackout in our media?
Russia did not compete in this Olympics.
There was almost no mention of that in our media.
And it was all because of the war with Ukraine.
And so Russia's almost always up there with the medal count.
They're a bunch of cheaters too, especially when it comes to gymnastics.
And so it was sad watching parts of this Olympics.
Part of it I thought was really great and really inspiring.
I love watching the swimmers because that's objectively one of the hardest things to do and that I think has still been, it's been corrupted by a lot of doping and stuff like that.
But some of the sports that China was winning in were just these obscure like table
tennis.
Skeet shooting.
I mean stuff that is not it's just it's not exactly mainline Olympic events
that you would think about and America still dominates in track and field.
I will say that was really really neat to see still dominating the track and field.
The question is for you guys what sport that is not yet an Olympic sport
should be added as an Olympic sport paintball paintball.
Wow.
I feel like I haven't heard about paintball since 2003 or so.
It was really, really big then.
The J.D.
Vance voters agree with Jack.
Paintball's cool, paintball's cool.
It just does feel like it's fallen off.
People get creeped out, they thought it was like mass shooting.
So paintball fell off because the problem with it is that speedball Is usually the more spectator sport, the more competitive version of paintball and speedball is just kind of like, I don't know, it kind of sucks.
Speedball is just like whoever gets the most expensive equipment, whoever gets the, uh, the marker that fires the most, you know, with like the, you know, electronic hopper and everything.
It's like zip, zip, zip.
And then you can shoot the most and you win the end.
So it just becomes like a gear fight, whereas the the actual much more fun version of paintball, much more interesting version of paintball is Woodsball.
That's the original version of it.
And that's where it's two teams and you've got like a much wider space, a wider area.
So it requires strategy.
It requires cunning.
It's it's basically like small unit tactics in the infantry, something like that.
So, you know, I've always enjoyed that version of paintball much, much more than speedball.
How about you Tyler?
I'm excited because the 2028 Olympics are going to have lacrosse in them.
It's modified lacrosse.
It's 6v6, so it's like box lacrosse type rules.
There's no long poles, but it's still cool.
It's almost a guaranteed win for the Americans if we put together a decent team.
All right, okay.
We'll have all the last rows.
I think dodgeball.
Dodgeball?
Okay.
I'm just gonna give a troll answer.
I think it'd be fun if we revived some of the ancient Greek events that have fallen into abeyance.
Okay.
One, this would legit be good.
Pankration, which you could probably just do as basically modern UFC mixed martial arts.
Pankration was ancient Greek.
It was like anything goes wrestling and you just went until someone said uncle.
And the only things that were banned, I think, were like squeezing someone's junk, eye gouging, and biting.
And I think everything else went.
And there's like accounts from ancient Greece where like someone would...
I think a guy wins the Pankration final and then like immediately dies.
Oh yeah.
It's crazy.
The other thing that'd be cool.
They had a armored race.
So you would race while wearing battle armor Okay, it would be like a full like 200 meter dash but wearing a full suit of ancient Greek armor And then they had like ancient pentathlon.
So we have the modern pentathlon which was ripping this off So the modern pentathlon is this weird track sport where it's I think it's is it running?
riding a horse uh... pistol shooting
uh... and a few other events and it's sort of supposed to be skills that would
be useful for a modern soldier caught behind enemy lines but
they had the ancient pentathlon which was basically i think the same deal but it was ancient so it had javelin
throw and a few other things so we should bring that all back and of course they
should all compete in the nude because
we have to be as as trad as possible are you guys gonna go to the LA games
It's four years from now.
Will we have a country in four years?
That'll kind of depend on what happens.
There'll be something called America.
Yeah, exactly.
It's gonna be so frustrating where they like clean up the city of LA for six months in advance and it becomes this world-class city for like six months and it's really beautiful and there's no bums or homeless or overdosing or gang violence and then the minute of closing ceremonies it just goes back to the purge.
Exactly.
That's what's gonna happen.
It is interesting what you mentioned.
It really is.
Communism fails at basically everything, but it is good at winning athletic events.
I'm looking at old medal tables.
In 1988, which was not one we boycotted, in 1988 the US lost in medals to East Germany,
a country with like 15 million people. And if you look at the top 10...
Well, and that was in Seoul, South Korea.
Yes, it was in Seoul and five of the top ten countries were in the Soviet bloc.
Soviets were number one, then the East Germans, and then Hungary, Bulgaria, and Romania were six, seven, and eight.
Those commies were really good at sports.
I want to make a pitch for Zorbing.
I just put it in the chat.
Are you guys familiar with Zorbing?
What is this?
This would be the Winter Olympics, right?
Well, I think you could do this.
I think you could do this on any landscape.
It's just there's higher mountains, higher elevations.
So Zorbin, you get in this big ball and they push it and it's like you just go crazy.
It's like a hamster ball and you go down a huge mountain.
And the one that the one I dropped in the chat was some guy in Russia.
They pushed him down.
I shouldn't be laughing.
They push him down the mountain and he literally dies.
Where is this a sport?
Do you do anything after you start bowling?
I guess Russia has to make it back into the Olympics before we can do this again.
It's the big hamster ball.
You get in it and they push you.
And you go really fast.
Are there obstacles when you steer?
That's what I'm saying.
We should have massive courses for this.
It should be incredible.
I agree.
It should be Winter Olympics.
I might go to the 2026 Olympics in Italy.
Oh, yeah.
What was the year that it was the Russian Olympics?
I think it was 1980 where the Russia, the Soviet Union had the Olympics in 1980, and then the U.S.
didn't even go.
But then they had their own games in Philadelphia.
Yeah.
And like China, it was like China and China and Japan came because it was after the Sino-Soviet split and West Germany competed.
But like a bunch of countries had this like You know, separate, almost like a NATO Olympics versus the real Olympics, which were held in Moscow.
That's back when the Winter and the Summer Olympics were held in the same year.
So 1980 was like Placid Olympics when we hosted the Winter Olympics.
And then the Summer Olympics were there, and now we do them.
Yeah, no, no, you're right.
No, the 1980 Summer Olympics were in Moscow.
And we boycotted the Summer Olympics, but we hosted the Winter Olympics because it was in Lake Placid, New York.
And then we started to skewer them.
The Olympic Committee said, OK, well, that's the sport, Tyler.
Oh, yeah, that's Zorbian.
That's the guy who didn't make it.
That's the Russian.
So yeah, every year since 1992, they were the same year.
And then 1994, they decided to go summer-winter in different years.
Which I actually think is pretty good.
The Winter Olympics has, I think, sports that are cooler and higher risk to your life.
I mean, there are some things in the Winter Olympics... I think it was Sochi the guy who died on the skeleton course.
It was the skeleton, yeah.
They don't call it a skeleton.
A skeleton's a legit thing.
Is a skeleton for land?
So let's make a commitment to our listeners.
Will thought crime come together and we will compete in 2026 Olympic curling?
I remember when they first added that, I think the U.S.
team in curling was literally the men's and women's local teams for curling in Bemidji, Minnesota.
So you pretty much could if you were back then.
Now it's harder.
Now people do this seriously.
Curling is serious business.
Oh, I know, but there's no athletic acumen, meaning that there's guys with beer bellies that do it.
It's incredibly precise and very hard, but it's not exactly you have to get in the gym and train all day long.
I mean, you have to be there training the actual craft of it.
But I think we should submit a bid.
I think we should try to compete.
I was looking at weird sports while we were talking about it.
Did you know there's something called chess boxing?
Yes.
We should have chess in the Olympics, by the way.
Oh, there was a whole debate about this.
No, chess isn't a sport.
But it's a competition.
You just want to lose?
You just want to give up?
We should have games in the Olympics, too.
Like, true games of skill.
You just want China and Russia to just beat us every time?
We shouldn't be adding sports.
We just know we're going to lose that.
No, no.
See, that's a mistake.
America's gotten actually better over the last 20 years and closed the chess gap, believe it or not.
If you look at the international chess rankings.
The number one chess player in the world, I think, is like Lithuanian, right?
That one guy?
Norwegian, Magnus Carlsen.
Let me see.
No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Magnus Carlsen, yeah.
The guy's unbelievable.
Wait, but have you seen this chess boxing?
Yeah, yeah.
It's like you do a few minutes of chess.
That's right, yeah.
We have number two and three in chess.
Hikaru Nakamura and Fabiano Caruna are both U.S., yeah.
And the best is Magnus Carlsen.
It's not even close.
They say he's the best ever to play the game.
Better than Bobby Fischer.
Gilbert, Arizona used to be the chess capital of America.
Did you know that?
Why?
Is that right?
Yeah, it was for a while.
It's like Bobby Fischer going home there for a while.
All the elementary schools were like the best in the country in chess.
It was like a really weird thing.
Wow.
Yeah, it was crazy.
Is that in like the Word of Wisdom or something?
You know Magnus Carlsen?
Magnus Carlsen will show up late to matches against people, meaning like when his time is still running out, and he'll still, he'll literally just like be distracted texting people and will still win.
He's the greatest ever to play.
Yeah, he's got it figured out.
I think it'll be fun in the Olympics.
The problem is truly it would have to be like Blitz Chess or whatever because the true like the World Chess Championship when they're actually contesting it is deranged.
It'll be like I think they'll spend a whole day on a game and they'll play 14-15 days straight and eight or nine of the matches will just be draws because with high-level chess players most of their games are just draws now.
See, the problem is... No, you have to use a timer, though, Blake.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the problem.
The problem is... You have to use a timer.
The problem is a slippery slope here, guys.
Like, if you introduce chess, all of a sudden we're going to have, like, Starcraft?
Settlers of Catan?
No, it's going to be a board game.
There's going to be, like, literal board game people who are going to be, like, demanding this.
We'll have creative writing.
It's just we're gonna get to a point we're gonna get to a point in like a hundred years from now where nobody wants to leave their house.
It's just gonna be like lame sports and the Olympics will look totally different.
I'm an Olympic maximalist.
Every event should be in the Olympics.
Yeah, but that that's wrong and here's the reason why.
Because they're never they're going to omit.
So America wanted to have football as our sport because you know the home country can pick the sport.
It's flag football.
It's flag football.
We shouldn't stand for this.
It's in America.
We should be playing full-contact football.
Who do we play against?
Canada?
Australia?
Honestly, our flag football... It's interesting.
When they added 3-on-3 basketball, we thought we would win, and we didn't even make the medal rounds.
We got smoked.
None of our best players want to play 3-on-3 basketball.
Yeah, they put up Jimmer for debt.
It should, this is stupid.
I know, Jim or Fredette.
Jim or Fredette like got hurt like the second game.
What they should have done is they should have had the best college players that are coming back for one more year to
play on the three-on-three basketball.
And they could win a gold medal.
It would have been great practice for them.
There's apparently a technicality where you have to have played in the 3-on-3 tournaments before this, and that's a big reason we don't have a good team.
Oh, is that right?
NBA players, like it's during the NBA season, they can't get released to go play these.
Oh, that's why there's no NBA guys who can compete.
Oh, OK. They answer the question because I was going to say my solution was Charlie was
the people who are on the FIBA team who don't make the Olympics team should be on our three V3D.
You know, like, so we had to be like your career.
We lost the FIBA championship the last year, which was super embarrassing.
So you had guys on there, great guys, great NBA players, but they lost the FIBA championship.
My solution was whoever is on that team that doesn't make the Olympic team, like the 5v5 team, then you put them on the 3v3 team.
But that makes sense actually, that they have to participate in the lead up.
But there has to be a way that the NBA can figure this out.
We lost to Germany and we lost to Canada in the FIBA last year.
And we had Jalen Brunson, like we had actually good players.
And Mikkel Bridges, and like, it was like a good team.
Like it was a good team.
Anthony Edwards, yeah.
And their punishment, they should have had to play in the 3v3.
If you want a thought crime, if you watch USA Basketball and you watch these other teams, the window of USA Basketball dominance is closing.
And that's really, it's really fascinating to see.
The NBA has had foreign MVPs for quite some time.
Steve Kerr benching Jason Tatum, the reigning MVP for literally every game, was one of the most, like, inexcusable moves.
I mean, Devin Booker's fine.
I wouldn't put him at the same level as Jason Tatum.
And Devin Booker played, like, the entire Olympics.
Tyler, you're an NBA fan.
Can you help me understand why you just benched Jason Tatum, the reigning MVP who just won an NBA Finals for the entire game?
Devon Booker, you want to talk objective?
Objectively, Devon Booker's a better fit for the starting lineup.
No.
Yeah, he was an off the ball, didn't demand the ball.
Jason Tatum demands the ball.
That's the problem.
You have Steph Curry on the court.
You have KD at the end there.
You have LeBron.
You can't have Jason Tatum on there.
It'd be just all ball hogs.
Ryan in the chat is saying we should have Olympic Quidditch which that gets at the funny thing that I think quidditch is like not even called quidditch anymore because like of the whole the turf thing so they call it like quad ball or something stupid like that yeah yeah quidditch officially known as quad ball since 2022 because oh can't can't have the turf name oh oh my god I hate people Yeah, but what about the Peter Thiel thing?
You guys know about the Peter Thiel thing, right?
That he was back.
He and a bunch of guys like Balaji's in on this as well.
They're backing something called the Enhanced Games.
So everybody knows, of course, that in the Olympics you get tested, you know, no performance enhancing drugs, no PEDs.
But Peter Thiel and a bunch of guys are actually supporting a new Olympics Games where you're allowed to take basically whatever you want.
I think that will be like cool exactly up until the point that one of the competitors literally like dies because he'll take some absolutely insane drug regimen and then it will be controversial and someone will go to prison.
You know this was that was an SNL sketch years ago and it was um Bill Hartman was the weightlifter and he went to like let's say he was dead lifting and he was dead lifting like Just some insane amount like 1500 pounds or something and then he tears his arms off and the blood starts going all over.
It is interesting to imagine like what is physically possible when you go all out but Yeah, it's also unpleasant.
Going all out probably literally would kill a person.
And there are people who would be willing to make that exchange.
I feel like the defense people would say is, guys who go into the NFL are definitely shortening their lifespan and hurting their health to make a ton of money.
So, is it that much worse to just directly do it with drugs as opposed to by playing 500 football games over the course of your life?
Any closing thoughts on the Olympics, guys, before we move on?
You know, I think it would be more fun.
So, I heard that the IOC is only going to be doing the Olympics in, like, the same locations for ease.
Did you hear about this?
Oh, is this just, like, countries were fed up with having to spend, like, $100 billion to host, so they're just gonna go to cities that can host them without a lot of press?
Yeah, that's what I understand.
I don't know if, like, I haven't really fact-checked this, I've just been, like, just heard this secondhand, is that they're doing that.
Which I think is super lame.
I think they should have to do the Olympics in, like, the most terrifying of places.
And I think that should make it more fun.
You remember when you used to sit down at the arcade and you sit down at a video game, like a car racing game, and you would illogically be driving a sports car through the African desert, like through the Sahara or wherever?
I think that the game should be played that way.
It should be whatever's there.
There should be a limit to how much they have to spend, they can spend to build stadiums and stuff like that, but it should be legitimately difficult.
We could go all in.
You could just have, they don't tell you what sports are in the Olympics until you show up.
That too!
You just have to pick athletes and you send them there.
That's it!
They're playing Calvin Ball.
Okay, I like this!
And they just make up the rules on the spot.
That would be a cool, that would be cool is like you just have like an elite group of like athletes and then they all have to play different sports.
They draw straws.
That would be cool.
I'm just saying, I just think it's stupid that it's the same place, same venues.
I get it, I get it.
I think it should be different venues, but that's just, I don't know.
Final thoughts on that.
Well, the upcoming Olympics in 2028 is Los Angeles.
In 2030 is the French Alps.
That one will actually be pretty good.
And then 2032 will be in Australia.
Brisbane, Australia.
And then 2034, Salt Lake City.
So America gets another one in 2034.
And LA I'm excited about because it'll be our same time zone.
Yeah, no, seriously, I totally agree.
I'm going to go to the L.A.
Olympics for sure.
Oh, yeah.
We've got some friends there involved, so that will be... And we have the World Cup!
We have the World Cup coming in 2026.
I refuse to be excited about the World Cup.
Because it's lame.
Soccer is terrible.
I am not going to accept... No, Blake.
I will not accept the popularization of this depraved British sport.
You're being overly contrarian.
Stop it.
In my country, I reject soccer.
Have you ever been in a country that, while the World Cup is going on, where they love the World Cup?
No.
Why would I do that?
Oh my gosh, they go crazy.
It's crazy.
Everything shuts down and like, everyone is like, into it.
Yes, and that's awesome.
It's culturally cool.
I wish we had that.
Soccer is terrible.
Soccer is awful.
We have that.
It's called the Super Bowl.
No.
It's for a better sport.
No.
Called football.
It's the real football.
Wait, did you see that?
Wait, wait, wait.
Wait, hold on a second.
There was a tweet about that recently where it was like, Oh my gosh.
It was that guy Jarvis, and he goes, you know how to make soccer better?
Blake, you'll appreciate this.
Here's how you make soccer better.
First of all, the field is too big.
The field must be shrunken.
And instead of having all the players on the teams all at once, They should be able to move players on and off the field whenever they want.
The ball is too big.
It should be reduced to something small and black.
The field itself, running on grass, is too tiresome.
It should be covered by ice.
Ice everywhere.
And the black things should be hit by cars.
It should be hit by sticks.
This is how you make soccer better.
Yeah, if we had a World Cup just for hockey, that'd be a million times better.
Soccer is bad.
I just, no.
They're always trying to break your spirit.
Hockey is objectively the best sport to watch outside of football.
The whole thing with soccer is they're trying to break your spirit by making you get into a lame sport that five-year-olds play where they kick a ball and learn teamwork.
And they just try to break us with this.
They want to make soccer popular.
No.
I refuse to care about soccer.
I refuse to watch soccer.
I refuse to know whether Phoenix even has a professional soccer team.
I don't know.
Nobody tell me.
And... We do.
Phoenix Rising.
I'm going to fight you.
I'm going to fight you, Tyler.
I don't disagree with you on the fact that it's going to be lame in America because no one in America cares about soccer.
No, we'll get behind it.
That's not true.
We're getting behind Kamala Harris.
We're going to lose in the first round and it's going to be embarrassing and humiliating in our own country.
I hope we do not get out.
Guys, we have foreigners and we have so many people from other countries.
It doesn't matter what country does well.
If Brazil does well, we'll fill up the arena.
I'm not worried about it.
Well the cool part is we'll have all these people from all different countries like coming to all the cities and so it'll just be like a huge party in all these cities but they I mean I'll tell you being in a foreign country when a team is going far I think I was in I can't remember where I was but I was somewhere where a team was doing really well and they were going absolutely it was crazy it was like everywhere you went you couldn't like move without something about the World Cup and everyone was happy I've never seen anything like it anywhere in the world.
In America, we're just generally happy people.
We're happy people because we don't have soccer oppressing the collective consciousness.
The Super Bowl is different because it's not like all the teams participate in a tournament in that short a time.
Like, there's something about the World Cup that they've got right that, like, I feel like college football needs to do better.
Like, if they could maximize, like, the World Cup-type build-out, you know what I mean?
Like, we should have, like, group play that goes into... Next, you're gonna be like, we should have promotion and relegation in U.S.
sports.
I'm just saying, they get it right with something that gets everybody so freaking excited, it's crazy.
I appreciate it.
It's one of the only things I appreciate outside of America is that they do that right.
Look, if you want good sports outside of America, go to Japan and watch Japanese baseball.
It's great.
It's amazing.
Because it's a good sport in a good country, so it's good stuff combined.
Whereas if you take a bad sport in bad countries, like France, you get horrible misery and agony.
So we just have to reject it.
No.
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All right, Blake, what do we have next?
What we have next is so communist countries are very good at winning sporting medals as we discussed what they are bad at is keeping food on the shelves and you know actually having economic growth in any way and that's all highly concerning because We discussed this a few months ago, that Democrats were looking bad, and their best option was to just go maximum populism.
And even though Joe Biden is out, it appears Kamala Harris has taken that advice to heart, and she's going maximum populist.
So Kamala, she hasn't done any policies for her first month.
She's finally rolling them out, and what she's rolling out is price controls on food and price controls on rent.
So that is what we are getting for the Kamala experience.
She just tweeted about an hour ago, when I am president, it will be a day one priority to bring down prices.
I'll take on big corporations that engage in illegal price gouging and corporate landlords that unfairly raise rents on working families.
And so, you know, I think we've discussed this before, but the worry is this stuff is really bad.
But the problem with bad economics is bad economics can still be insanely popular.
And we may just get Kamala riding to a victory in the election by promising to crash the economy with no survivors.
That's right.
Tyler, how should we counter her new thing where she says we want to give $25,000 to a family if they want to buy a home or for first-time homebuyers?
Man, I mean, this is the conversation.
I mean, we talked about this a while ago, right, Charlie, of talking about the land issues.
I mean, young people just care about the land issues.
The Democrats we know are ready to just give out handouts.
The best handout that America could give, I mean, this is just my opinion without getting too deeply into this.
You know, the best thing that we can possibly do is, as Republicans, be talking and educating people about taking land back from the Bureau of Land Management.
I mean, this is the biggest mistake that Republicans have made in the West, which is, we have all this land that exists.
We should be inviting conservatives into the land and literally doing it at a massive discount.
And giving people, this is literally the home, America's the home of life, liberty, and land.
That's where we started.
And the unfortunate part is we have no creative people on the conservative side talking about the ways that we can make life easier.
So, I mean, obviously, who knows if this handout that she's proposing is true or it's real or whatever.
But, I mean, we've got to be talking about how are we going to make living in a home more affordable.
for young people.
I mean, this is like a real issue that everybody talks about.
It's like, I'm going to get out of college and have no possible way of buying a house.
I mean, look at the rates right now.
Look at home prices. Home prices have inflated so much.
There's got to be an impending crash that's coming.
And there's literally no creative ideas whatsoever.
So, I mean, I could tell you, Charlie, getting not too complex into this, the easiest thing that we could possibly do is take back land from the federal government and give it to people and have them homestead.
Call it the New Homesteading Act.
And homestead, and you know what statistically has shown?
Charlie's gone through this, which is like, if you don't do drugs, if you get married, if you, you know, Get a job, have a career, keep a job.
And one of the other statistics that's out there, if you own a home, if you have a home and you have any kind of land, so not like a zero lot, not an apartment, not a condo, but actual land where you have to take care of things, you're far more likely to be conservative.
You're far more likely.
So that's right.
This is, this is like the easiest thing that we can do without like having to influence those other social things, which is like give people land and make them take care of stuff.
And they're probably going to become more conservative.
Yeah, I mean, it's a stakeholder society.
And the federal government owns the entire Southwest.
It's literally half of the Western United States.
It's a majority.
Only half?
No, I mean, it's really close.
Arizona, I can't remember what the number is, but it's like, literally, we could just open up, take this land back, and if you had a good governor, you could just be like, yeah, suck it, federal government.
We're just going to take the land back.
And start a program where, number one, we're going to make all the money off this land.
We're going to take better care of it because a lot of the BLM land, too, you see all these forest fires.
Have you ever wondered why we have forest fires across the West and not anywhere in the East?
Because it's drier?
Well, it's not just dry.
It's just dry parts in the East, too.
That happens in the Southeast.
It happens.
But in the West, it's drier.
But the Bureau of Land Management literally doesn't take care of the forest.
I will say, I don't feel like I never hear about, like, devastating wildfires in Texas, which is a dry place that does have trees.
Because they don't have BLM.
Well, it's the environmentalists, too.
The environmentalists are to blame.
The environmentalists say that you can't do controlled burns.
They just say let it burn, basically.
It's a huge problem.
With air quality in the West, it's a massive problem.
We have the map up here now.
You can see red is federally owned land.
And some of that, of course, is like some of its national parks, some of its Indian reservations.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
That's like nothing.
Yeah.
Very little of it.
The Nevada one is insane.
Now, admittedly, I don't know how many people who are eager to homestead in the Great Basin might be a bit of a lift there.
Andrew's watching right now.
There's tons of beautiful land across Nevada.
Nevada has so much beautiful land.
And Northern Arizona, Southern Utah.
Yeah, like Northern Arizona is like Appalachia, except... It's better, I guess.
Yeah, there's no humidity.
And homeless people.
Wait, on the trail?
On the trail.
Okay, that's fair.
No, but like, this is the thing.
You could literally take back this land, just gift it to people.
Literally gift it to people.
And you immediately would have a more conservative America.
And plus you'd be making money off of the taxes that would come out of it.
I just think about also just, you know, some of this is going to be desert and not super economically viable, but there's just so much stuff that... So Blato, let me explain that one to you.
Think about this world in which we place nuclear power plants and solar fields on all of the horrible, horrible land.
Where it's just, you know, businesses are people too.
We could literally just invite it.
So much of that land that's just conquered by BLM, by the federal government, you put solar fields on those that become extremely cheap.
And you don't have to pay for it from the federal government either.
Private companies would come in and just put those in if they had access to the land.
They just don't.
It's crazy.
That map of Nevada is just so depressing.
Big, fat, empty state administered by BLM.
BLM is a disaster in all iterations.
That's right.
Jack, your thought about the populist arms race.
I want to get Jack in on here.
Your thought about the populist arms race, Jack, and how Trump should confront it.
Yeah, look, this is going to be a thing where people are going to start throwing out, look, populism sells.
Populism is popular.
Populism works.
Um, on a on a on an electoral basis.
That's why Donald Trump has been so popular.
The idea being is so it's got to be twofold, right?
Donald Trump's got to number one, say, she's in bed with big business.
She's you got to tie her to her, her big donors, which is gonna be easy to do Wall Street, Silicon Valley, etc.
So to cut her away from the little guy, which is what she's trying to go for.
And then look, there's gonna be a swath of people that just never That she never stops voting for the Democrat Party, but that's fine.
We're talking about people who are potentially persuadable, the people who are potentially more independent or swing voters.
And then what you do as well is you also point out that she doesn't have a track record of ever getting any of this stuff done.
Keep saying again and again and again, hammering her on the fact that you have had your day one already.
You're in office right now.
Why aren't you doing this right now?
Why aren't you doing this right now?
And then just hammer up on it.
Why aren't you doing this right now?
How come you spent all this money on the green charging stations and there's only like three bills or whatever?
It's basic stuff.
This is all happening on your watch.
Tie her to the incumbency.
But then finally, you also have to still campaign as a populist.
So you do still have to keep going for those things.
Look, Trump is kind of already the one who started the arms race off, and I think you have to keep pushing that measure, but not doing so in a way where you're talking about government controls either.
You know, he said something about, like, we're going to cut energy costs by 50% in our first year.
These are basic things that he actually has a good track record on doing.
But at the same time, I think that sitting back and pointing out that, oh, you know, saying, oh, this isn't bad, this isn't good, it's not economic sound, etc.
It's like what Blake said.
We know it doesn't make any economic sense.
We know that this leads to the Soviet Union.
We know this leads to food shortages.
We know this leads to breadlines.
That's why we just call him Breadline Bernie.
But at the same time, these things are extremely popular.
And we've talked about this for a long time.
That millennials, particularly, because of their student debt, are at a huge vulnerability and huge risk for debt-free, debt jubilee, student debt relief-style socialism.
And it's something where I really think that the Republicans need to come in and actually think of a very smart way To deal with this, go after the institutions, go after the endowments, etc.
To deal with this or else you're going to get someone like a Kamala Harris who's going to pick up those Bernie Sanders policies and walk over to all these millennials who are saddled with debt and are only going to become an increasing share of the voting demographic as we go forward for the next 30 years.
And this debt issue is still going to be there.
It's a massive bomb and Republicans, quite frankly, haven't done a very good job Addressing the situation other than to say, oh, well, this is your fault.
Oh, well, this is your fault.
Well, guess what?
People who are sitting there voting aren't going to vote for the person who said, oh, this is my fault.
It's like Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney going up there and saying, oh, well, these entitlements are insolvent.
The entitlements are insolvent.
We've got to privatize.
We've got to privatize.
We've got to cut it off.
And you look what happened to them electorally.
Same thing is going to happen to Republicans if they don't start mitigating their message on this.
Blake, how would you advise?
Let's pretend Blake Neff, yeah, let's just, let me frame this.
Blake, your senior advisor to the Trump campaign, they're throwing populist salvos at you.
You want to win.
How do you counter it?
Oh, man.
It is genuinely tough because, like I said, the problem is it's popular.
You look at Argentina.
Argentina has been an economic basket case for decades.
Javier Millet barely won and he's got low approval now because people are mad that he
took away all the stupid price control stuff that was just nuking their economy.
This stuff, once it gets in place, can just stick around forever.
You can just never get rid of it.
Doesn't matter how ruinous it is.
So we should first emphasize this is a real danger and you can't casually dismiss it as
bad economics 101.
I think, really, you almost need to take an indirect approach.
You can't really just confront it head-on you have to remind people okay guys Kamala is in She's connected to an economic regime right now.
It is the Biden administration and it's really bad.
Everything she has to do, everything she has to promise, she has to use as a distraction from the economy under Biden has not been good.
Inflation is really high and she can't really avoid that because anything she says, if she tries to create any distance between herself from Biden, you have to
basically say, no, okay, what did you specifically disagree with Biden doing? And why didn't you
say anything about it then? Why didn't you urge them not to do it then? They won't be able to
argue that. They won't have any justification for that. And so I think you do have to
mostly focus on the disaster of the Biden administration and just really not let them
detach from it.
As for a populist line from Trump himself, I think the best way you do it is you just,
the strongest argument Trump had against Biden was, I was a president for the same amount of
time that Joe Biden's been president and stuff was better.
I think your biggest appeal is to the success that he already had with wage growth and all of that, as opposed to specific policies, because a lot of the policies that work are just weirdly not popular.
And then I think you focus on the stuff that is most popular, which is probably being pro-fracking.
I've seen a lot of people I've talked to have said that plays really big in the specific states we need to win.
Even if fracking isn't the biggest thing nationwide, it's very big in Pennsylvania.
The Keystone Pipeline, big deal in Pennsylvania.
So you emphasize that, you talk about specific things that the Biden administration derailed,
like canceling the Keystone Pipeline.
You just hammer them over that.
Well, the Keystone Pipeline's not in Pennsylvania, though.
Well, it wasn't, but it was important to fracking.
You're saying they're killing demand for America's ability to export gas, and so that is an attack
on the natural gas industry everywhere.
It's a big deal.
It's a big deal in Pennsylvania.
It's a big deal in some other places that we want to compete in.
People might think it's in Pennsylvania, because Pennsylvania is a Keystone state, so why
not?
Exactly.
Yeah, just play it out.
Even people there might think it, for all we know.
Yeah, and like the hammer, you hammer on the ban on exporting natural gas.
That was clearly done.
He'll like frame it as an energy security thing.
But what it really was about is he wants to make it so there's less incentive to develop American gas.
And so that's part of the whole Green New Deal shtick.
So you really have to actually I was going to throw out that Trump at one point was proposing building a pipeline from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia.
So we have this sort of like Shuttered oil refinery in Philadelphia right now.
It's the old Snowco Fields.
Literally just had a fire a couple of years ago and it shut down.
But the idea was bring some of that fracked natural gas from Western Pennsylvania and the Marcellus Shale find over to Philadelphia and get that plant moving up again.
So that would have been, I mean, you're talking massive, massive jobs.
Actually, come to think of it, I'm just kind of surprised that they aren't talking more about that because you're now you've got jobs from the fracking side on The western side of the state and then the refining jobs on the eastern side of the state.
So that's Delaware County.
That's a lot of those blue-collar worker jobs.
Yeah, I'm trying to think, like, what's the strongest populist spin on a winning economic policy?
It's energy stuff, probably trade, I think, really hammering at China and other concessions, like, you know, the America last approach to all American foreign policy.
You talk about the impoverishing effect of just, you know, mass welfare to illegal immigrants.
I think securing the border is increasingly a strong populist, not just sort of Not just on a crime thing, but on an economics thing.
You say their plan for, like, while they're simultaneously driving up the price of everything, they're also driving down wages by bringing in this gigantic illegal or semi-legal, like, helot class of foreign labor that they're just dumping into every single city.
And they're either taking a low-wage job, or they're taking a bunch of, you know, welfare from your government.
One or the other.
There's vanishingly few actual highly skilled jobs that they're bringing in, in comparison to those two.
So that's probably our best populist counterattack.
I definitely don't want us falling into an arms race, which some people will be tempted with.
They'll say, well, why don't we just promise more money for housing, or more price controls?
I think the price control stuff and the more money thing is actually boring stuff that people don't care about.
Because I think people actually don't listen to that.
So I'll tell you one one that I mentioned that I think is really a good idea.
I think you have to get strategic and pull out and say, OK, what do people actually care about the most?
And you center in and you focus in.
So one of the things that.
I suggested to people was like, Hey, you know what's really screwed up in society?
Like all these different ticketing companies and how they put all these like excess fees on sporting tickets and concert tickets.
I know this sounds really stupid, but this is like goes in line with the tax, no taxes on tips thing that worked really well, which is like out of the things that you like to do that you can't do because now Bidenomics has messed up your life.
You know, why don't we figure out fixing this problem that exists where, like, tickets get passed around a thousand different times because, you know, the population is so much denser in some of these places and it's impossible to get sporting tickets in some places for less than, you know, a couple hundred dollars.
Well, then they add fees on top of it.
And basically, you know, those cultural events you can't attend.
Price controls on Taylor Swift tickets.
Well, it's not price controls.
It's controlling the fees, right?
So that's just like one of those weird things.
He could just come out and say it as president.
Biden has actually talked about it.
He called it junk fees.
This was something that Biden talked about.
I don't know that they ever actually did it, but I do.
Actually, I will give credit where it's due.
This was something that Democrats talked about from the White House.
I remember Kareem Jean-Pierre talking about it at the press briefing.
I don't know that it ever went away.
I certainly, when I go buy tickets for things, we went to SummerSlam a couple of weeks ago, as a matter of fact, in Ohio.
And, you know, plenty of hidden fees there.
So, you know, they haven't done anything about it, but the Democrats are already thinking about this.
Yeah, but you're right.
You know, bring it up and say, look, if they're going to steal ours, then we might as well steal theirs.
Well, we just need creative ideas and then come out louder about it, right?
Like the biggest, the most horrifying part about this no taxes on tips thing is like what's inevitably going to happen is that you're going to have a bunch of confused people because they're just going to be louder and talk about it more often and get the support in the media.
And everyone's gonna be like, well, that's not fair.
It's like, stop talking about it not being fair.
Just talk about it.
Right?
Like, just talk about, like, the whole idea of populism is, like, be the first to the show and talk about it more than the other guy, and then actually do it.
Like Jack just said.
One that I think is underused.
We talked about this, Blake, and it would drive people crazy, but I think it's the the right move, which is don't just say we're going to do infrastructure.
Be like very specific and say and just like humiliate California and Kamala Harris.
Being like you guys have been promising a freaking train from San Diego to San Francisco for the last like 20 years and you guys have spent billions of dollars and you've not been able to do it.
We are going to build Like high speed rail and we're going to build this stuff in like two years or less and we're going to figure it out.
I'm going to cut all the red tape.
I know you said that it's impossible, Blake, but at least from a promise standpoint, national infrastructure gets people really excited because it feels as if their country is developing and growing and prospering, not decaying and atrophying.
And so you do something where it's like This is the American Manufacturing Revival Initiative, where we're going to put 2 million people back to work in public-private partnerships, and we're going to have China pay for it through tariffs.
And, again, Elon touched on this a little bit, but I think that come up with, like, 20 crazy ideas of national infrastructure that people can actually get behind, if that makes sense.
Yeah, I totally agree.
It would be good if there's any remote possible way to do it, which I don't know.
I'm very black-pilled on the America building anything thing.
No, but this goes back to the BLM thing.
Hold on, but the private sector can.
I mean, we have the ability to do it.
Elon was able to defy gravity literally with SpaceX and with Tesla, with his ability to outdo manufacturer projections.
You're right, through government it's very hard.
Yes.
A fun goal could be maybe first private moon landing by 2030 or something.
I mean, that's one of them, right?
I mean, Trump was like along those lines, but this goes back to that whole BLM conversation, which is like, well, if you take things away from the federal government, but then actually do something with it, right?
With the land.
And again, you get creative with this stuff, which is not, you don't just have to give up land for homesteading.
Like you could give up land for nuclear power plants and be like, you know what we're going to do instead of building a wall, we're going to build a wall of nuclear power plants.
I'm kidding, but the reality is, why not stick a nuclear power plant in the middle of the desert?
We've already done that in Arizona, and it literally powers half of Mexico and all of Southern California, including all of Arizona, and we could have the cheapest utilities in the world if we wanted to.
Like you just have to just communicate that to people in the right way and be smart about it and utilize what you have in front of you, which again is we have all this land where we're geographically in the best place in the entire world.
We have all these resources.
We have all this oil that's just sitting there.
We have all these woods that are sitting there like America could literally produce so much.
and lumber and we just sit there and we wait for China to bring over steel.
And this was like what Trump was talking about during his thing was like part of the reason why Trump was so popular
was he was like, you know, we're not going to wear up all these tariffs on things and we're going to have American
steel come back.
And everyone was like literally losing their mind over they couldn't believe it because nobody, no one thought that was
possible like in a post Reagan era.
And so like, this is where we're at now, which is just like we need to stick with that.
And I feel like we've gotten away from it, to be honest.
I feel like 2020, it became all about personalities, which is what the Democrats wanted.
And we're slowly watching this race turn into personalities, instead of about this, which is like, come up with something cool that you're going to do that people actually get in the most simplified terms.
So uh there's there's some ideas that I developed here so one was called the Wild West 2.0.
I sent this to the campaign which is where you create these special zones that are controlled by BLM where there's like no regulation and you sign disclaimers and you could basically try whatever you want economically if they're like distressed like you go to rural Nevada and you get like a hundred acres and you signed all these um you know All these disclaimers and it's like the Wild West 2.0 and you could try crazy things aiming to like attract super adventurous entrepreneurs.
Another idea that I had and that I developed was the National Adventure Pass, which is for Americans.
You get like three summers in a row.
You get to go to any National Park free and it provides like every citizen with a pass to go to all the National Parks, historical sites, stuff like that.
Let me see what else I had.
While you're on that Charlie, I spent some time on this.
Did you know nobody's been in like the crown of the or is the crown or is it the?
up on the the torch of the Statue of Liberty There should be like literally a drawing to reopen that this should just be a drawing that's like certain amount of Americans get to go on like the the the torch the Statue of Liberty and like it's broadcast and it's like a big deal like Like, you could literally do that as president.
You could literally do that and, like, make a big deal about it.
And it's, like, nothing but, like, plus points for, like, Americana-ism.
So, anyway, sorry.
Go ahead, Charlie.
No, no, I have all these crazy... I mean, I just come up with crazy ideas all the time.
Um, and so...
Yeah, no, I think that we could think more creatively in this way, but also play offense against them.
I don't, if you, would you guys get upset if President Trump said, hey, we're going to, we're going to have like no interest for first time home buyers, like no interest loans.
I mean, I'm sure you get like really high, higher home prices, I guess from that.
Like, but we're, we're in a, I guess building more homes is actually the structural solution, right?
Oh, yeah, I mean, you build more, and... I mean, yeah, it's like the boring answer, is you make it easy to build more, and then, like, demand will be sated and prices will go down, and things that we massively regulate the prices and provision of tend to eventually have high prices.
College and university, healthcare, childcare, all of these things are outrageously expensive.
And the truth is, is the more boringly unregulated they are, the cheaper they tend to be.
So what's the cheapest stuff?
It's stuff that you, it's basically unregulated to make and manufacture and import and whatever it is.
So clothing's crazy cheap.
Food, actually, even after Biden's inflation, food overall is much cheaper than it's really like ever been on a big historical scale.
Electronics are like that.
Electronics, if we had the federal government deciding to get involved in deciding, you know, cell phones or computers are too expensive and we need to tinker with how to incentivize providing them and have price caps on them to make sure they're all affordable, then computers would be outrageously expensive.
A new computer would cost $5,000 and there'd be shortages of them all the time.
but instead the price goes down all the time.
And you want to apply that same principle to housing.
And I think the easiest way to do that is you basically whack most of the laws that make it difficult
to put up housing.
And unfortunately, one of the reasons this is hard is even among conservatives, it's very popular
to restrict the construction of new housing.
A lot of this is because I think building new housing is how a lot of people are forced to engage
with the fact that America is in decline.
So no one wants to build new stuff because they want to preserve their own neighborhoods and such in amber.
because if your neighborhood is changing often the sense is your neighborhood is
going downhill it's getting you know
they settled a million refugees there or they're like
putting up some horrible new
government housing there something like that everything's always going in decline
but overall the way you do it the boring way to keep housing
prices down is you just build a ton
you know what place doesn't have outrageously expensive housing?
Houston.
complained about Houston? There's basically no zoning restrictions there. You can just
put up whatever in Houston. That's the boring way to keep prices down on that sort of thing.
And kind of the same deal for food. The way you actually bring food prices down is you don't have
Kamala Harris come in and pass price controls on it. And it's an incredibly competitive industry,
so prices will eventually go down. This isn't popular, though. People always want to do
something. Closing thoughts here, guys? Look, I think it's good that we're actually having
having these discussions.
President Trump has talked about things like Freedom Cities in the past, and look at what we are talking about as opposed to sort of debating.
Like, I just go back to the Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney version of politics, where they're like explaining politics as something that you're, you know, not supposed to understand, that you're not supposed to like, that we can't have direct benefits for you.
And that's sort of been put on the shelf now to say, okay, We understand how economics works.
But at the same time, we also understand that your country has been, it feels like it's been selling you down the river that you've been getting screwed over.
And so what can we do to from the government perspective, to actually have direct benefits for the people that that's not just support us, but for all country or for all citizens, rather everyone in the country.
So things like law and order, by the way, things like crime, all of this will help, by the way.
And so, you know, who are the people that are the biggest victims of crime?
It is going to be disproportionately the lower class and middle class.
So these are also things that we can do to cut against the economic populism measures that they're putting in.
And I just love the fact that we're not the neocons anymore.
My gosh, I'm just so happy we're not them.
Tyler, final thoughts?
We didn't talk about the conspiracy of 2020, but I believe the biggest conspiracy we didn't discuss was how the Olympic Games, I believe, were impacted by COVID intentionally because we knew that Trump... Can you imagine Trump as president?
During the Olympic Games, the amount of Americanism... Well, he was during the winter.
Yeah, but I'm talking about the summer right before the, uh, the summer right before the election.
It was canceled because of COVID or they pushed it later to the next year.
That would have been the most American bleed through that you've ever seen with a U.S.
president.
Of all things, the real conspiracy is God conspired.
So now this is my closing statement, Blake.
Trump can be president during an American Olympics now.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
So like this, like, can you imagine?
It would have been so good, like, it would have been impossible to overcome.
So they had to cancel it.
When Trump wins, and we do have the American Olympics, and he's going to be the president, the sitting president in the middle of this, we have to defend and make sure that nothing comes in between Trump and the Olympics in 2028.
I agree.
If you guys want to hear more of my solutions, we're going to put them on our members page, members.charliekirk.com.
Just crazy ideas.
Some are good, some are not so good.
I have another one, by the way.
Let me find this other one I had.
I wrote these.
This is like a running Google Doc that I have of these things.
No, it's crazy.
Oh, yeah, this one a virtual home buying a virtual home buying Academy develop an online Academy offering for your low cost courses on how to buy a home, including financial planning, mortgage options and real estate market insights.
All right, where's my other one that I had here?
So I asked I asked people from all the time they send them in.
There's one about health that I had that was really good.
Let me start to find this.
Hold on.
Add to your document, Charlie, turning shopping malls into universities.
It's a Christian universities.
Yeah, no.
National Health and Wellness Voucher Program.
Introduce a program that provides health and wellness vouchers for citizens for a range of services, including gym memberships, nutrition counseling, mental health support, aiming to improve overall public health, including special tax benefits for not eating corn.
Oh, wow.
Ooh, attacking the corn god.
That's dangerous.
The corn god will be displeased.
Oh, it's going off on corn again, folks!
We're losing Iowa!
Blake radicalized me on corn.
Radicalized me.
Look, it's just about rejecting polytheism, Charlie.
We can only serve one god, and we can't serve the corn god.
All right, guys.
Till next week, keep on committing thought crimes, and if you want more of our ideas, you guys could check them out, and encourage you guys to look at them.
So, thanks so much.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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