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June 24, 2024 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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The Huge Cultural Shift Among Young Men — My Appearance on The George Janko Show
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Hey everybody, happy Monday.
This is me on The George Janko Show.
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He's an incredible guy.
His spirit, his love of this country.
He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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There's a lot of headache that comes with heartache, right?
Especially when you're arguing, when you're discussing.
To me, I don't love this.
It's not my strong suit.
I feel like God builds certain people for their job, right?
And mine is more storytelling and making people laugh.
And then I could tell you something while it's a little light and easier to digest.
Your skill set is like, no, I got to tell you and basically surgically get in there and get out.
Does that ever get taxing on you?
Does it ever get tiring?
Yes and no.
But I mean, I find purpose in it.
I mean, everyone's built for something different, right?
And so, I don't mind the combat.
Got it.
And I don't do really well when things just kind of seem serene.
I'm built for the warfare.
Nice.
I felt it.
I felt it.
And I also love to build.
And so, I don't love to manage, but I have a great team that manages stuff.
But I built.
I mean, we built Turning Point USA.
We've built Turning Point Academy.
I mean, we have 600 full-time people now all across all the vectors.
Turning Point Action and Turning Point USA.
So I love to build, I love to inspire, I love to teach.
But yeah, I'm not good at sitting still.
Are you trying to run for presidency?
No, no.
Never?
I have no interest in running for anything.
I would love to be a very popular radio host, podcast host, great father, great husband, and live a very happy life where I can run a major organization that influences the country, and I could pick up the phone of the President and answer it on the first ring.
That would be awesome.
But I feel like you're doing that right now.
So maybe I'm living the life.
It's good.
I mean, it's not the first ring, maybe the second or third right now.
Do it right now.
No, I'm just kidding.
Do it right now.
Come on.
You figured out the good things in life and you're hanging on to them.
You know what I mean?
Why complicate things and.
You can enjoy the fruits that God has given you.
You're not in want.
It's good.
You know, Cliff taught me that.
He taught me that you could be where you're at and not be in want.
And that's where I find peace.
Being very grateful.
And I say this all the time, I harp on it, but you can't be anxious and grateful at the same time.
So whenever I start getting anxious, I realize, now that I know that, I'm like, oh man, I'm being ungrateful.
And that really harms me.
So it puts me back into a grateful spot.
That's exact.
And gratitude is the root of much sin.
Has there been a campus that you've gone to, maybe you've gone to it a few times, and you've noticed a change since having these conversations with students?
It's a terrific question.
I've been doing this now for 12 years, and I've personally visited over 160 campuses, and I've spoken over, boy, I think almost like 140.
So I've visited a campus sometimes I was speaking.
So I've probably visited more than anybody else in the last 12 years.
Shapiro's visited a lot.
I think I finally have him beat.
But who cares?
We've definitely organized more.
I love Shapiro.
He's great.
And I love all of them.
I get along with them all.
Do you guys have the same point of view?
We have differences, for sure.
We don't need to get into that.
But he's great and he's done a great service to the conservative movement.
But we definitely see things differently, especially on foreign policy.
However, to your point, when I used to do these campus stuff, we never used to draw the crowds like we're drawing now.
Now, part of it is increased popularity, but the amount of energy, enthusiasm, that we are now seeing, especially from young men on campuses, is palpable.
I'll go do these outdoor campus events, we'll have thousands of kids show up, no exaggeration.
When I do these evening campus events, we cannot find rooms big enough to fit all the students that want to attend our evening campus lectures.
Wow.
We cannot, whether it be at University of Kansas, or Arizona State University, or Northern Arizona University, all across the country, we cannot literally find spaces big enough.
And so praise God for that.
And, I mean, I have an upcoming book called Right-Wing Revolution, where I talk about this, where I especially see it with young men, that young men are becoming increasingly conservative, increasingly patriotic, and very much anti-left, anti-Marxist.
And the young lady's not as much, but still a little bit so.
But it was not the case five or six years ago at all.
And we are the most popular thing on campus when we show up.
We are the most vocal.
We are by far, I think, the most persuasive, where the liberals and the leftists at most university campuses are increasingly radical.
They're not good at defending their ideas, as you can see on these videos.
I just went to the University of Washington, Seattle, which is one of the most liberal city, liberal campuses in the country.
We had 1,500 students attend, we had to turn away another 1,200 students.
Students!
That means if we had a room big enough, we could have had almost 3,000 students at University of Washington Seattle.
Unheard of.
And I'm not there as a rapper, I'm not there to tell jokes, right?
I am there to talk about very meaty philosophy, history, conservative values.
The thirst for knowledge.
And they're also thirsty for meaning and purpose.
That's exactly right.
Because again, I believe we are living through the suicide of the West.
And young people especially, they see it.
They feel it.
They know that something unjust has happened to them.
They know that they are being plundered by the elites and by their elders.
And right now, the conservative movement is really a meeting point of a lot of those concerns and our agenda is one that actually resonates at a deeper fundamental level because a lot of problems with the conservative movement but at least we are still more in tune with the natural law and how we as human beings should live.
The left is at war with that.
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When you're on campus, do you ever feel unsafe when it gets to this amount of numbers?
Has there ever been any scare?
Well, we have great security.
There was one time when Candace and I were eating breakfast in Philadelphia.
It went very viral, this is well-known.
And about 50 Antifa came up to us while we were eating breakfast at 6 a.m.
They were up all night in an anti-cop protest a couple blocks away.
They noticed us, stormed the restaurant.
People can look it up.
That'll be six years ago, actually, in July.
And so that was probably the closest That I've ever felt.
We get death threats all the time.
You know, they come, they send stuff to our homes and all that.
And yeah, that's just par for the course.
I mean, if you are not getting active death threats, you're not really doing much for the country.
You're not shaking things up if we're not knocking on your door.
Sorry, I don't mean to... I mean, I'm just... No, I know... It's just kind of like... I wanted to take the... I always laugh when people are like, oh my goodness, I'm a politician, I've got death threats.
I'm like, okay, get in line.
Like, we... But, okay, like, we can make jokes about this, but... A guy just got sentenced to jail, just... You can fact check it.
A guy just got sentenced to jail for three or four years because he wanted to come and shoot up a Turning Point USA event.
Wait, how'd they know before you?
Well, the FBI actually did their job, amazingly, and I'm very critical of the FBI.
But he posted on social media, he said, bored in this flight, XYZ, gonna go to this Student Action Summit in Tampa, Florida, and shoot them all up.
Oh, he announced it?
Wow.
He was 17 years old when he did it, yeah.
Obviously, deep city mental problems, but that doesn't mean he wasn't gonna do it.
Right.
Right, so he got arrested and... Well, when you just, recently in May, you just had a child.
Yeah, two weeks ago, second baby, praise God.
Amen, and congratulations.
Thank you.
But these moments where you're fighting for your country, and you're getting these threats, does it alarm and concern you for your children?
I mean, yes and no.
We take proper precautions, that's all I'll say.
Perfect.
And we feel confident in that.
But also, I mean, my wife is the best person ever, and she's a patriot, and she's a believer, and we don't want to have to be accountable to God when this life passes.
And he asks, why did you not trust in me?
And again, everyone is called to something different in the body of Christ.
Some people are called to heal the sick.
Some people are called to mend broken marriages.
For those of you that love God, you must hate evil.
Yep, amen.
And again, everyone is called to something different in the body of Christ.
Some people are called to heal the sick.
Some people are called to mend broken marriages.
Some people are called to do outright hot gospel teaching.
My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
That's it.
And again, some people criticize me for that.
It's just my role in this diverse body of Christ, and some people do mission work in the jungles of the Amazon.
I am not called to that.
But other people are, right?
You're called to do an amazingly popular podcast and proclaim truth to millions of people.
Amazing.
So, do I worry for my safety or my family's safety?
No.
We take proper precautions, we own lots of weapons, and we constantly have them on us.
I gotta thank you, man, because I don't think you probably get thanked enough to be in a place where They don't understand how much slack comes with what you're doing.
And I know you have that thick skin on.
You're like, no, I'm ready for it.
But I also do know what it probably took for you to get there.
So if, you know, only God knows your true heart.
And if you're doing that, I praise you.
I should have answered that differently.
It's not a thick skin.
It's the armor of Christ, as it says in Ephesians, right?
The breastplate of righteousness, the sword of truth.
That is what protects you.
So are you in your gospel?
I mean, I study the word intimately, daily.
That changed my life.
I love the word.
Do you start your day like that?
Oh, I start my day throughout the day.
I listen to lectures, commentaries.
Again, it's not a competition.
People know it better than I do.
I just, I love it.
It's infinitely deep, but also immediately accessible.
So you could spend, I just did a whole study on Leviticus, which I don't recommend.
That's very difficult.
in the original Hebrew. But also, I probably got—I probably get more out of just reading the Psalms
than, like, a 90-day deep dive in Leviticus. But that was still really great and wonderful,
and I learned a lot. But, look, the Word built the West, and the Word is the—it's a gift,
obviously. It is the instruction manual. It's a comforter.
The Word is our navigational compass.
Basic instructions before leaving Earth.
I'm going to use that, and I will give you attribution.
Is that yours?
I don't know where I got it from.
I'm going to be honest with you.
George Janko, Basin Instructions Before Leaving Earth Bible.
I got that.
I love it.
Technically, my mother gave it to me.
No, I would say George Janko's mother.
Because thou shalt not give false or steal.
Yep.
Right?
So you can't steal.
Again, I challenge people in public life.
It is one of the hardest things.
No, she knows I do this.
It's hard.
You must always give attribution, or else you are stealing from another person.
You know what they say?
No different than walking into their apartment.
Oh, I just steal like an artist.
I go, that's still stealing!
No, no, no, no.
You must always give credit.
Now, if you can do your own spin on it, or it can jog you to another thing, but you must always give credit.
I like you, man.
I'm a stickler.
You're a good guy.
No, I'm not.
No, I'm a sinner.
And the fact that you say that, Makes me believe you're a good guy.
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Has there been a specific maybe story with a specific person you can think of where, you know, you had an interaction with them, they were on the opposite side of things with you, and then maybe down the road later on they came back to you and said, you know what?
You made me think and I've changed my mind.
Happens all the time.
The immediate conversion is rare because pride gets in the way.
The long-term conversions are remarkable.
The amount of people that come up to me That are now Turning Point USA chapter leaders, Turning Point USA staff, that were Bernie bro socialist atheists, is in the thousands now.
And they'll come up, they'll be like, Charlie, I was on the left, I saw your videos, Charlie was on the left, or even, Charlie, I used to come up and debate you at one of these tables, and now I'm no longer that way.
And this is why I'm such a big free speech advocate, is that I believe the truth, when allowed to be heard and spread, will be able to defend itself, and it does something to your soul.
And that's why sometimes people have cognitive dissonance, because they've been fed this left-wing, secular, atheist, Marxist nonsense repeatedly, and all of a sudden they hear something, and they're like, I'm supposed to hate what he's saying, but it kind of makes sense.
It's a seed.
It's a seed, and that seed grows.
And so, again, great credit to the warrior—you've had them on—Patrick Bette David, and Jordan Peterson, and Candace Owens, and Matt Walsh, and Shapiro, and Michael Knowles.
There's 30 or 40 of us that, again, there's probably more, but that really do this on a daily basis, that speak in adversarial environments and do social media content.
This is the buried lead of the right-wing revolution happening in the country.
People are trying to figure out, why are Gen Z becoming more conservative?
What's going on?
It's not social media.
It's not the people talking just in cable news.
It tuckers on that list for sure, right?
It is people that go on podcasts like this, that go on Rogan.
It is 30 or 40 or 50 or whatever number you want to put that have every day been putting out this heterodox content, this contrarian content, that all of a sudden a generation that thought they're very far to the left, that thought they believed these things, they've had conversions and they've been turned around.
And the one thing you'll notice, and you should come to one of our events.
They're super fun.
We have a ton coming up this fall.
Give me a date, I'm there.
You have an open invite, I mean that.
As an attendee, a speaker, whatever.
I think it'd be super cool.
Is that we say we have a rule at Turning Point USA.
If you disagree, you go to the front of the line.
And we will not put up with the crowd booing or jeering opposition questions.
So, we try to become what college campuses should be.
Equal.
Like, let you speak.
It should be an open marketplace of ideas.
And you could see, again, we have hundreds of hours to demonstrate this and prove this.
So, at Washington Seattle, I say, if you disagree, go to the front of the line.
30 people who disagreed immediately came to the front of the line.
And they all have different objections.
And I do my best to try to respond, or to clarify, or agree, or find clarity over agreement, which is another Prager quote.
And so, I think that's super healthy, and not only that, it allows people to find out what they really believe, and it challenges lies that they might be living under.
One of those, you know, C's that you're speaking of, you know, things that start things, it's actually something you wrote an essay when you were a senior on textbooks.
Yes, Breitbart.com.
That's right.
Right.
Well, you guys did do your research.
She's very good at it.
Twelve years ago.
Wow.
An eternity.
Right.
Back in my day.
I've lived a full life.
I'm very blessed.
You have an old soul.
It feels that way.
No, don't be sorry.
What was something that woke you up when you were in class?
You read these textbooks and you're like, wow, this is so one-sided.
And how do you think that we can fix this in high schools in order to kind of fix these textbooks?
Well, to be honest, it's so funny.
It was a Breitbart.com article that said liberal bias starts in AP economics textbooks.
And I was, like, super upset because it was written by Paul Krugman, who's a very far left-wing economist.
And he got a couple things wrong, one of which was so silly.
Silly because it shouldn't have, like, demanded national outrage versus what we now live under.
It said, the Reagan tax cuts did not accelerate economic growth.
Okay, whatever, not exact.
Now in our textbooks are literally outright pornography being, like, force-fed to eight- or nine-year-olds.
Just to think of how far our country has fallen in 12 years.
12 years ago, I used to write articles about, you know, they got economic data wrong in the 1980s, and now we're like, okay, here's how to put on a condom when you're 10 years old.
That's a whole nother topic if you want to get into it, but the indoctrination and, dare I say, grooming of our children, which is happening in the public education system, it's intentional.
And again, I'm going to keep on going back to the scriptures.
The only scripture, the only Ten Commandments, one of the Ten Commandments that involves a promise and your country is, honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.
Wow.
And so the quick... They're teaching you not to respect your parents.
Of course.
And they want to break that bond.
Every tyrant.
A house that's divided.
Exactly.
There is not an example in recorded history of a tyrant or a dictator or a totalitarian successfully coming and maintaining power without destroying the parent-child bond.
It does not exist.
And so, therefore, this outright graphic Pornographic curriculum that we now see is about trying to break that parent-child bond.
Why?
What happens?
Okay, so if a ten-year-old sees graphic material of sex acts they don't understand, they're gonna go to the teacher.
And the teacher all of a sudden becomes more of a parent than the parent.
And the parent doesn't realize that their authority has been usurped.
It's a way of strengthening the state and weakening the family.
Can I ask you, though, is it more of the family's fault than the teacher's?
It's both.
That's a smart point.
I totally agree with that.
Because at the end of the day, the school taught a lot of stuff that my parents didn't agree with.
They sat my ass down and they're like, hey, we don't do that sh**.
And you have great parents, and I bet you have a very strong father, I would imagine.
And a strong frickin' backhand if I ever went the wrong way.
Yes, no, but let me ask you a question.
This is a very, very important point.
Did you ever fear that if you did something wrong, your mother would, quote, kill you?
My mom would beat the brakes off of me.
That's biblical.
Don't spare the rod.
No, this is very important.
Kids that do not fear the retribution of their parents are wild boys.
Exactly.
They're wild.
And the scriptures say this repeatedly, which is that if you do not fear the justice of your parents, then, for example, if you talk to kids who didn't do drugs growing up, you say, why not?
Oh, my mom would kill me.
Who are you going to fear?
If you don't fear your parents, who are you going to fear?
Yeah, you should fear God and your parents.
And by the way, they're substitutes for each other in the sense that the commandment to honor your mother and father, so you belong in the land of which you are in, is the test.
If you cannot honor your earthly parents, you cannot honor your heavenly father.
And so, your question, or is it your parents' fault?
Yes.
And because they're not on their guard, because they're naive, because they are trusting of institutions they should be distrusting of.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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