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June 21, 2024 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Our Movement Vs. The Machine
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Hey everybody, movement versus the machine.
That is the stakes of the 2024 election.
We talk about how we are going to be able to overcome a $5 billion Democrat machine.
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I want to talk about A Twitter thread by someone who only has 500 followers on Twitter that I was up late last night reading.
I thought it was very interesting.
And it is my job here on this program not to mislead you and give you hopium.
Oh, we're going to win.
We're always going to overperform the polls.
I think it's important to take a step back and ask the question, why is Biden still in the race?
He can't speak.
He can't talk.
He can't make sentences.
It's because the Democrats are not betting on Joe Biden.
The current Democrat strategy is they are betting on their apparatus, their ability to chase ballots, their ability to work communities, their ability to turn out voters.
Why is Joe Biden still in the race?
Joe Biden is still the race despite the fact that he is a traitor to this country, that he's a terrible president because of the plumbing and the infrastructure that Democrats have built.
We call this the Democrat machine.
Now, we've heard all across the board from people that say, this election is going to be decided In a couple of swing states, Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, we have been laser focused like a heat-seeking missile on these states.
Now it's important to remember, there are millions of liberals out there.
And some of us, myself included, I kind of live in a confirmation bias bubble.
When liberals come up to me, I just kind of tell them to get lost.
I go to these college campuses, and I see a little bit of the liberal fervor.
I will say it has died down in intensity versus 2016.
But there are millions of liberals out there.
And I talk about this in the book, Right Wing Revolution, and people don't like to hear it.
But liberals, largely, they want to win more than conservatives.
They spend more money on politics.
They register more voters.
Conservatives are more likely to care about your church, your religion, your children, your community, your job.
Conservatives are more generous when it comes to charity.
Liberals are far more invested when it comes to politics.
Politics gives them meaning in their life.
Now some of the liberals out there are evil.
Some of them are misguided, but it's important to know this.
They are driven people.
They badly want to win.
They want power over your life.
They want power of the FBI, over the Department of Justice.
They want power over the federal government.
Our job is we want to win to get power to now give power back to you.
It's a harder sell.
Now they want to hold office.
They want to pass their policies.
They want to make supreme power of making their enemies mentally submit to their agenda.
And this is the important part.
They had to work hard to make this happen.
Blake sent me last night this long Twitter thread, and I love, in fact, I consume all the blogs that say that Donald Trump is going to lose.
You might say, how could you love that?
I do not want to get too high on our own supply.
I want to stay humble.
I want to work hard.
It is rocket fuel for those of us that are in the grassroots.
Because it's so tempting, Trump up five, Trump up six, Trump up eight, Trump up 18 in Iowa.
It is so tempting to Kind of fall under our own hypnosis.
Okay, yeah, we're gonna win, and we don't need to work so hard.
And I can tell you, we just had a ThoughtCrime episode last evening, and we went through phobias.
And we were talking about dreams, and Tyler's phobia was being run over in a Walmart parking lot while listening to some I literally had a nightmare a week and a half ago, and people make fun of me because of this, I don't care.
My nightmare was that they called the 11 electoral votes for Arizona for Joe Biden.
And I woke up at like 3am and I was like, we got to chase more ballots.
And in the dream, I was full of regret.
I mean, this election, I think we all agree, has become an obsession in our country because I really believe the stakes are existential.
And I'm dedicating every fiber of my being to push our staff to hire more ballot chasers, to find more voters.
This is a legacy Election.
When I'm going to be sitting on my rocking chair, God willing, when I'm 85 years old, I, God willing, will be able to look back on 2024 and at least I'll be able to say, boy, I worked the hardest I've ever worked in my life.
Now I can say many other conservatives are not working that hard.
I know you guys are out there registering voters, you're knocking on doors, you're giving money, you're doing that.
This audience is amazing and you guys all deserve credit.
However, many people are just kind of watching and hoping America gets saved for them.
The liberals have millions of people that are that obsessed.
And again, it's tempting to just kind of look at our own circles and our own chatter and say, oh, you know, we're going to win.
How could anybody vote for Joe Biden?
Well, the answer is they have a machine, an apparatus.
They are betting on their infrastructure.
They are not betting on Joe Biden.
So this Twitter thread that Blake sent me last night, again, I love reading this stuff because it humbles me, keeps me focused and determined.
By elections addict, he thinks This liberal was making the case for optimism among Democrats.
His argument was that Democrats shouldn't be discouraged by the polls because polling doesn't capture how much better Democrat intensity and turnout has become relative to Republicans.
And I thought it was important to highlight some of the facts.
After Trump was elected in 2016, Democrats of all stripes were enraged and more importantly engaged in not just the power of the presidency, but sending a message in every single election from the top of the ticket to the bottom.
The mindset changed to I have to do something, thus the resistance sprung up.
People started registering voters, writing letters, postcards, phone bank, text bank, knock doors, and donate anything that could help them elect Democrats.
Many had never participated before.
The response was overwhelming.
I just want to pause.
How many of you are writing postcards to your neighbors to vote for Trump?
If you're not, that's a very easy way to do that.
Do you know that there are a million Democrats out there that do that?
I get them in the mail all the time.
Hi, I'm your neighbor.
You should vote for Joe Biden.
Put it in the shredder.
But they're very persuasive.
Many had never participated before.
Here's the key.
Organizations were flooded with volunteers and cash.
As an example of what I'm talking about, prior to 2016, did you ever hear about anyone writing a single postcard to a single voter?
Well, now millions of people are doing that.
Millions of people at Democrats are doing that.
Here's a couple numbers.
In ActBlue, which is the Democrat credit card processing center, In 2008, they raised $55 million.
In 2022, a midterm cycle, ActBlue collected $2.2 billion.
Let me pause.
I think there's a lot of shenanigans with ActBlue, by the way.
I think there's a lot of weird stuff that's happening there, but it's very important.
Labor unions spent $400 million to elect Obama in 2012.
In 2020, they spent $1.3 billion.
Here's an interesting one.
The League of Conservation Voters, which is an environmentalist group.
How many of you guys have heard about the League of Conservation Voters?
Maybe some of you.
You know the League of Conservation Voters has a larger budget than Turning Point USA, and they receive no media scrutiny.
None.
Meanwhile, we have a piece every day coming out in the Wall Street Journal, NPR, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC.
They are all right now simultaneously investigating Turning Point, all of them.
And here's this organization, League of Conservation Voters, that raises $80 million in one year.
By the way, this is just a sliver.
The Democrats give more money.
They have more money to give.
The oligarchs of this country funnel money into these organizations.
So the hypothesis is this, is that Democrats actually had a very disappointing 2020 election.
They did badly in the House, and they nearly lost the presidency, even with every advantage in their court, with polls showing them way up.
Why?
Well, according to this hypothesis, it was because of COVID, because Democrats followed lockdown policies far more strictly.
I don't necessarily buy this, by the way.
I have a different take, and I actually think it's a pro-Trump take.
I thought about this this morning.
His hypothesis is that Democrats were not able to do GOTV, House-to-House, because they followed lockdown policies.
I don't think that's actually true.
We have a lot of evidence they actually did do ballot chasing.
They did do door knocking.
They drove record turnout.
I'm going to tell you what I actually think this is.
But however, he also thinks that Republican GOTV in 2020 was superior to Democrats.
That's not true.
It was a disaster.
We did well because of the grassroots direct enthusiasm for Trump.
And because the mood of the country was so inflamed, it felt like the world was about to end.
In summary, this is what it's about.
We'll talk about this at this hour.
It's a movement versus a machine.
In 2020, our movement was up against a Democrat machine, and that machine is still in place.
And which is going to win?
The movement of tens of millions of Americans or a well-oiled infrastructure with billions of dollars?
Tens of millions of Americans versus billions of dollars.
That is the question ahead of us in the 2024 election.
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It is the movement versus the machine.
And so the hypothesis is this, is that in 2020, the Democrats had this well built out machine, and Donald Trump actually did super well in 2020.
And this is a mythology that still plagues voters.
Oh, we got blown out in 2020.
No, no, no, no, no, we did not.
When all is said and done, we all know actually what happened in 2020.
We'll put that aside.
And so here is the question.
Can a nothing president, Joe Biden, who is deeply unpopular, Be lifted to another term with billions and billions, let's just say about $5 billion of left-wing infrastructure.
Is that possible?
And we have a machine, we have a movement, and we do not have a machine.
Now, to put some perspective in there, we made an ambitious goal, and we hopefully are going to hit it, to raise $108 million to get ballot chasing.
And some people on the right even criticize this.
Oh, that's too much money.
How dare you?
The Democrats spend billions of dollars on ballot chasing.
We are the only show in town right now hiring hundreds of full-time staff in just two states.
The question in front of us, and we must be humble in our approach, And I don't like cockiness.
Can money, infrastructure, and resistance fanaticism carry Biden across the finish line?
That is the question.
And to be honest, it might.
No Democrat would even blink, by the way, at a $100 million budget.
I can't tell you how many times I was in meetings and people say, well, $108 million, that's a big number.
I say, wait a second, hold on.
We've proven at turning point we can handle big numbers.
Because we raise about $80 million a year, which is just the League of Conservation Voters.
All of our numbers are public.
And reminder, ActBlue raised $2.2 billion, 22 times more than what our budget is for ballot chases, which is the best money that could be spent in this election, by the way.
And the Democrat soft money, 501c3, 501c4 infrastructure, it gets no scrutiny from the media.
Meanwhile, I sneeze, and the media writes that Andrew didn't say Kenzuthite.
It's unbelievable.
We have every major media operation in the country looking at a turning point.
It's fine.
Welcome.
Get aboard.
Literally, New York Times, ABC, CBS.
There are a zillion groups out there that we don't even mention.
ACLU, $100 million.
NAACP, $150 million.
Sierra Club, $100 million.
All of them do get out the vote.
All of them do voter registration.
Emily List, hundreds of millions of dollars.
Every Soros organization, 501c3, 501c4.
And our philosophy at Turning Point Action has been, well, why don't we just do a little bit of the work?
Now, I want to be very clear.
This is why I get asked all the time, Charlie, are we going to win?
I give this a 50-50 shot.
Because again, this one Twitter user that wrote this thread, his hypothesis is Democrats underperformed in 2020 because of COVID, and they weren't able to do their GOTV because of COVID.
That feels like a cope, to be honest.
The more I think about it, there were plenty of Democrats scooping up ballots in 2020.
There were plenty of Democrats on the ground.
Heck, they were marching in the streets for BLM, so don't give me that nonsense.
I think that is a cope.
And by the way, the reason I know that's a cope is that the voter registration numbers heavily favored Democrats in June, July, and August of 2020.
So someone was out there doing the voter registration.
Someone was out there pushing it.
And by the way, I can tell you for a fact, the Trump 2020 campaign and the RNC run by Ronna McRomney, RGOTV was a disaster.
Therefore, the explanation that I believe is correct is that 2020 was the first chapter of a machine versus a movement.
Our movement was not nearly as widespread or nearly as well built as it is in 2024.
However, their machine is better funded and more sophisticated.
In 2024.
Democrats, for example, are using artificial intelligence to micro-target voters.
Democrats are using chat GPT and sophisticated Silicon Valley technology to be able to run their advertisement.
And so the question, we are going to be so outspent.
Our small but mighty budget at Turning Point Action is the only ballot chasing operation that we know of with full-time staff in Arizona, Wisconsin.
Again, there's a lot of great groups out there.
They're doing their best.
And, you know, we're trying, but it's a lot of volunteer labor.
It's a lot of volunteer labor.
The Democrats have a non-stop money machine that carries them.
And because of that, in every special election, basically, Democrats overperform polling.
Democrats just recently overperformed polling in Ohio recently, remember?
They overperformed by 18 points.
Democrats overperformed polling in the New York special election recently.
Democrats actually overperform the polls.
Why?
Because a good ground game can give you a three-point boost.
And right now, the only ground game—again, the Trump campaign is building out through Trump Force 47, and we're doing our best on our side and other people are as well—without a ground game, we might actually underperform the polls in November.
But what can overperform the polls is grassroots muscle.
That is the secret.
And I'm not hearing enough people talk about it.
I listen to a lot of conservative media.
And I'm doing my best to call my friends in conservative media that have millions and millions of followers and huge amounts of following.
I say, guys, you have to talk about the grassroots muscle, registering voters, getting them on the rolls, chasing ballots.
We will lose if politics remains a spectator sport, not a participant sport.
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Quick update here.
And we want to do this every day.
This is going to be a sad drumbeat.
So you got to buckle up.
Every day we highlight another American who's either raped, kidnapped, or murdered by Biden's boys coming across the southern border.
NBC reports that in Houston, from Venezuela, Venezuelans have opened up their prisons, and they are flooding the country.
This is part of the plan.
Remember, this is the Cloward-Piven strategy.
The Cloward-Piven strategy was developed by two Communist political scientists who wanted to take over the country.
You do that through spending so much money that your dollar is worth nothing, hyperinflation, by building a permanent deep state administrative part of government, and finally, allowing the third world into America to disrupt society, to create chaos, anarchy, confusion, disorder, disarray.
This is cut 167, a 12-year-old girl in Houston murdered by two savages.
Remember, this is just in the last 48 hours.
We have the Indiana girl that was just kidnapped by El Salvadorians and Mexicans.
In Indiana by five of them.
We have the mother in Maryland that was hunted down and raped while she was going for a hike in Maryland.
We have in Central Park an illegal that goes and rapes a 13-year-old girl.
Of course, we had Lake and Riley.
This is just off the top of my head.
Oh, yes, and also a 64-year-old father and grandfather in Colorado was just also killed by an illegal in Colorado.
And I think I sent that tape last night.
We'll get to that one too.
Let's go to cut 167.
It's hard.
It was so hard.
Tears streamed down Alexis Nungaray's face as she speaks about her 12-year-old daughter, Jocelyn.
She was goofy.
She always had her own little spunk.
She never followed the crowd.
She always stood up for what was right.
Jocelyn's family member showed up to the creek where her body was discovered Monday morning.
She made a call to her 13-year-old boyfriend, who says he could hear two adults in the background.
Have you been able to talk to him or know what they talked about?
I have no clue.
HPD released these photos of the two persons of interest.
Nungaray says she doesn't recognize them, but she hopes whoever is responsible is held accountable.
So they hunted down this 12-year-old girl, and they murdered her.
Because that's what they do.
In Venezuela, crime is down to record levels because they've opened up all the prisons of Venezuela, and they're here.
They've opened up the prisons of Venezuela, and they are now in all of our communities.
Cut 168 Fox reports that the 12-year-old girl was in fact murdered by Venezuelan natives, and charges have been filed.
Play Cut 168.
In a multi-division operation led by Houston police, 21-year-old Johan Jose Rangel Martinez and 26-year-old Franklin Jose Pena Ramos, both Venezuelan natives, are now charged with capital murder.
Charges have been filed.
Now we want the justice system to do its job.
This is the latest in a tragic spring of Biden-era illegals charged with rape, killing, and kidnapping.
We're doing this every day, and some people don't like hearing it.
Well, you better hear it, because then do something about it.
An illegal from Honduras, 18-year-old Junior Manuel Dubon Benitez has now pleaded guilty.
It's another one, by the way, just breaking news.
Iowa, another 12-year-old sexual assault in Iowa.
Dubon Benitez illegally entered in April of 2022.
So that one's breaking.
So just so we're clear, we have the rape of the 13-year-old in Queens.
We have the attempted kidnapping in Indiana.
You know, every single one of these victims are women.
Every single one of these victims are not just women, young girls.
Because in Venezuela and in El Salvador, the worst people go after the preteen.
When you import the third world, don't be shocked when your country starts to look like the third world.
Police in Missouri have arrested five Mexican and Honduran nationals after they kidnap a 14-year-old girl in Indiana.
You see a theme here?
And of course, Rachel Morin, mother of five, was murdered by a citizen of El Salvador.
Joe Biden, they do no background check.
They do no screening.
How many of these are going to vote in the upcoming election?
That's a real question.
In Arizona, thankfully, we're the only state in the country that requires proof of citizenship before you register to vote.
Can't believe we got that done.
Here's another one.
12 hours.
Almost every 12 hours another American is raped, kidnapped, or murdered by an illegal.
The frequency and the rapidity of how this border is impacting the American homeland.
This is 64-year-old dad and grandpa was killed by an illegal alien.
Get this, he's been deported 16 times.
He was deported 16 times, and on the 17th time to come into America, he kills an American.
Playcut 171.
Officials say Cruz Mendoza was in the country illegally and did not have his commercial driver's license.
There is a lot of layers to this that goes from the federal government down to the state and local government.
Where there's just a lot of things that are falling through the cracks to make sure that our drivers that are on the roads are safe.
Miller's family tells us he was a truck driver himself, who always urged safety on the roads.
Since I was a kid, always told me to be careful of driving around trucks, especially in the mountains, because it takes an extreme amount of skill.
And he's getting a sled ride!
His loved ones say this is all just the beginning of a push for justice and awareness.
You want justice?
Win in November and put Mayorkas in a federal prison.
You want justice?
Win in November and make sure this does not happen ever again.
The new category of migrant crime is enveloping the entire nation.
And I don't say this to fearmonger.
Do we have that clip, by the way?
This is how you know the Democrats are on defense on this issue.
You want to beat the Democrat machine?
You want to overcome their billions of dollars movement versus machine?
You make this a primary issue.
And they are not happy about, they do not like talking about this.
Joy Reid says this is fearmongering.
That's what she says we're doing.
And by the way, just so we're clear, she's criticizing us of fear mongering when she has told us for the last decade that black men can't walk outside of their homes without being gunned down by police.
she is criticizing us of fear mongering, like at 162.
Great citizens.
But there's a lot of fear mongering.
There's a lot of fear mongering.
Here was Fox's banner, migrant arrested for raping 13 year old New York City.
Yes.
And so I think that's part of the problem, right?
Exactly.
You have a lot of fear mongering.
Exactly.
They're laughing about it.
They're chuckling.
They are finding delight.
Because Pramila Jayapal believes the rapist is a better American
than the girl that was raped.
It is not a reach to say that the Biden regime has blood on its hands.
You ask, what can you do?
Send our episodes, send our coverage of this.
We're one of the only shows that go through the details of migrant crime.
They're chuckling about this on cable TV.
The other question is, will these people be out on bail soon?
If you have a 10 or 11 or 12-year-old girl, and the illegal Venezuelans and El Salvadorians, the criminals, they seem to have a real fetish for 10, 11, and 12-year-old girls, because that is the theme here.
We're seeing 12-year-olds being abducted, murdered.
And by the way, that's what happened with these Venezuelans in Houston.
Just yesterday, breaking, they abduct this 12-year-old girl and brutally murder her.
They have a fetish for that age group.
You better be very careful allowing your 12 or 13-year-old daughter or granddaughter out of the home.
And I'm not trying to fear monger.
Let's just look at the number.
We have millions of people that have come across the southern border, and we have no idea who they are.
And they now think it's open season on Americans.
Play cut 112.
Christian Inga was arraigned today in New York City on charges of sexually assaulting a 13-year-old girl after school last week in a shocking daylight attack.
Police say the 25-year-old migrant from Ecuador approached two teens in the park at knifepoint.
According to the criminal complaint, the suspect tied the boy and girl to one another, gagged them, then raped the girl before fleeing the scene.
Police say Inga entered the U.S.
illegally through Eagle Pass, Texas back in 2021.
I cut 113.
Police put out the sketch of the suspect and later this video of him riding a bike.
Outraged, New Yorkers responded.
We waited for him all day.
A community of Good Samaritans recognized the suspect as someone who lived in the neighborhood and waited for him for hours at a grocery store where he was last seen.
I seen him walking into the store and I had to take him out.
The chaotic scene playing out live on the Citizen app.
He tried to fight back, though.
He tried to run for his life.
He really tried to run, run, run for his life, but he couldn't.
Again, God bless those young men for doing what is right.
But the police no longer do their job in this country.
It is anarcho-tyranny.
You know what anarcho-tyranny is?
In New York, the rapists run free, but the former president, who didn't fill in documents correctly, gets all the attention of Alvin Bragg.
Anarcho-tyranny.
How do we defeat the Democrat machine coming up into November?
Part of it is make this a primary issue.
And if you think it's bad now, if Joe Biden gets four more years, he's going to allow 25 million people into the country.
There will be no border.
It will be open season, and he will give amnesty to 100 million people.
And that is the plan.
It is not a mistake.
The plan is to invade.
The plan is to overwhelm.
The plan is to change the fabric of the country.
One of our listeners emailed us, Charlie, what can we do about all the illegal crime?
Well, you can win in November.
And again, if you are a female, buy a weapon, learn how to use it, and do not leave your home without a weapon.
Period.
It is open season on America's females.
It is open season on American women.
It could be when you're walking out of the grocery store.
It could be when you're going for a jog.
Do not leave the home alone.
And you think, oh, you're fear-mongering.
I have six examples in just the last 48 hours.
Now, I want to be proactive.
I want to be solution-oriented.
We've talked about how baby boomers are not where they need to be, and you guys have heard me talk about that.
But I think it's very important.
I want to play one of Joe Biden's recent advertisements, because it's all starting to make sense.
Joe Biden is running advertisements that feel like Mitt Romney's campaign back in 2012.
He's making himself seem like the conservative candidate.
This is actually a good thing.
Because Joe Biden is a revolutionary Bolshevik, a placeholder for a movement that has hatred for the country.
He can only keep up this lie for so long.
Now, you're going to hate this, but you need to listen to it.
And it's very important, play cut 160.
As the sun rises, we raise the flag, a symbol of all we hold dear.
Courage.
Opportunity.
Democracy.
Freedom.
They're the values that built this country and still beat in our hearts.
But they're under attack by an extreme movement that seeks to overturn elections, ban books, and eliminate a woman's right to choose.
Joe Biden has made defending our basic freedoms the cause of his presidency.
And he's running for re-election to finish the job.
To protect the freedom for women to make their own health care decisions.
The freedom for our children to be safe from gun violence.
The freedom to vote and have your vote counted.
Under Joe Biden, the sun will not set on this flag.
American democracy will not break.
I will defend our democracy with every fiber of my being and I'm asking every American to join me.
For freedom, for America, Joe Biden.
I'm Joe Biden and I approve this message.
Okay, I know before you start throwing stuff at your TV and try to, you know, come after me, you have to watch that because that advertisement is being seen by millions of people and it's working.
Joe Biden is trying to tell you that he's the small seat conservative candidate.
That feels like an old Republican ad from the early 2000s.
I'm George Bush and the sun will never set on our flag.
And I am the stable hand at the wheel.
But it's working.
With people who are like, wow, Trump got convicted.
Oh, wow, he had a mob on January 6.
He got convicted of a felony.
That seems bad.
And I saw that advertisement, it started to click.
They are running that advertisement nonstop towards senior citizens and towards older voters.
So what is the solution?
Donald Trump, we need to aggressively play offense, and the debate is the way to do this.
Donald Trump, the argument of the debate, and we have a lot of time to build this out
next week, in the debate when a lot of people are watching, is Donald Trump needs to position
himself as the stable and status quo candidate of the sense of, I'm the one that's going
to restore order, you are the chaos candidate, Joe Biden.
The border is completely chaotic.
It is a meat grinder in Ukraine, Israel and Gaza.
Inflation is chaotic.
This is one reason why we're doing better with younger voters.
They want big changes.
They hate that ad that Joe Biden just ran.
A younger voter says, sun will not set on America.
It's already set on me.
I can't afford a home.
But for older voters, they like that idea.
Yes, the sun will never set on American democracy.
This is the buried lead of the 2024 election.
And very few people are talking about this, is that Joe Biden is actually running as a small C center right conservative through his television advertisement and his propaganda.
Now, however, Trump is actually really good at this.
Trump is way better at this.
We're gonna get ourselves back to excellence.
This is Trump's superpower, and this is his ability to win the debate.
Trump is both brilliant at seeming revolutionary and making the point that he's the stable one.
They have an open border letting rapists across.
I'm gonna fix Well, we're going to get it back there.
It's insane that we're going to have to throw $500 billion towards Ukraine.
I'm going to fix it.
And Joe Biden, the only explanation that I find as to why Joe Biden is quote unquote doing better is because he's running Operation Mockingbird, Hollywood curtailed propaganda like that on television every single day.
If Donald Trump understands that the way to then win back those voters, it's going to be a question of not who can better run the revolution against the deep state, but who can then be the small seat conservative for people that want a stable country.
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