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May 9, 2024 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Ann Coulter Told Vivek WHAT?
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Chasing Votes Across Arizona 00:10:29
Hey everybody, Tana Charlie Kirk Show, Vivek Ramaswamy and Dr. Robert Malone.
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In just a second, we'll have Vivek Ramaswamy.
I want to encourage you guys to get your tickets to our Turning Point Action Conference coming up in Detroit, Michigan.
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It's tpaction.com slash peoples.
It really is an extraordinary event.
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The work that we are doing is the most important work in the country.
It's the most important work in the country.
And we are pouring in to the next generation the values that we care about the most.
And as we wait for Vivek here, I want to play this piece of tape.
It's cut 11.
It's a little long, but it is about the effort that we are doing to chase the vote.
It is about how we are getting out into the streets to register voters, how we are going to chase ballots.
By the way, I got this text message this morning.
You ready for this?
It's an incredible text message.
to read it.
From a great Catholic friend of mine, terrific guy.
I'm not going to say his name on air, even though I don't think he would mind.
He said, Charlie, I want to send you a ballot chasing update here in Arizona.
We are following your lead.
Our organization, Catholics for Catholics, had our monthly meeting tomorrow and we're organizing in Arizona.
We have representatives in 100 parishes across Arizona to chase ballots.
I'm on a flight right now to Wisconsin to set up base for ballot chasing there.
I'm working hand in hand with Chris on your Turning Point Action team.
We'll be doing your largest breakout session in Detroit for the People's Convention, rallying Catholics there.
Just trying to show that Catholics are not just talkers, but doers as well.
Thanks for leading.
How terrific is that?
That's right there in the grassroots.
100 parishes across Arizona, all established, all set up.
And I understand there's a lot of negativity out there, but we can win this thing.
This is within the margin.
We have 100 parishes set up for Catholic ballot chasing.
We got 250 churches that are on board for ballot chasing.
What are you doing?
Download the Turning Point Action app, find one low-propensity voter that is not registered to vote, and register them to vote.
Let's play Cut 11.
We're in Menominee Falls today outdoor knocking in the rain.
We're using our app here.
She has some school board and village board signs in her yard, but she is a low-prop voter.
We're going to go find out why she hasn't voted in the last few elections.
Come on.
We're bringing a data-driven, common-sense approach to door-to-door interactions.
The Turning Point Action app is the one-stop shop for any conservative activist.
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Our organization is coming into an area that national pundits don't even have on their radar.
We've identified it as a top five county to saving our country, Waukesha County.
That's where we're planting our roots.
That's where I'm sitting right now in our new Wisconsin field office.
We're going to be going into those high-priority precincts, identifying those low-propensity conservative voters, getting them out to vote, moving away from the transactional approach that the Republican apparatus has promoted up until now to a relational approach that embraces the human element of politics.
The machine that the left has built has been heavily based on outside organization, voter registration, ballot chasing, and they supported those outside groups, 501c3s, 501c4s.
And meanwhile, the Democratic Party was able to have this now web of outside organizations all feeding into one common purpose.
They're all in different boats, but they're rowing to the same place.
What's happening on our side right now is that the RNC is swimming up water without a paddle and they think they can do it all on their own.
We at Turning Point Action understand that we're no more than one generation away from socialism.
And 2024 is the make or break year.
We can look back 10, 15, 20, even 50 years from now and say that we went one of two ways.
We went down the path of socialism and dark times ahead, or we saved our republic.
We unleashed the largest operation of ballot chasers that the conservative movement has ever seen.
And what we're doing in Wisconsin is being replicated all over the country.
We're putting the same amount of money and resources into Arizona as we are Wisconsin, into Georgia as we are Arizona.
Those three states are the three states that actually matter.
There is no path to the presidency without two of those states.
And realistically, if we're shooting for the moon here, we need all three of them.
And with our data-driven approach, going after those low-propensity, apathetic conservatives, we believe we can bring home the votes that we need to in areas like Waukesha County, Wisconsin, Maricopa County, Arizona, Cobb County, Georgia, areas that will make or break the future of this country.
This is a complete paradigm shift of how we know the conservative movement to be.
And we absolutely cannot do it without your support.
And that is just a little taste of how we are going to be chasing the vote, hiring, hiring up the largest full-time army.
Now, by the way, I want to just say the RNC, and we're working terrific with the RNC now.
That video was produced.
The script was written under the prior regime.
So I think very highly the RNC.
James Blair is doing great at the Trump campaign, really great to work with.
And thanks to new guidance from the FEC and thanks to Mark Elias, outside groups, such a turning point action on canvassing and doors, we can work much closely together.
Thanks to new guidance from the FEC.
And we dive deep into the details here.
We are out-registering Democrats in the state of Arizona.
We are out registering Democrats in Georgia.
And it's going to take the grind.
So what do the next couple months look like for us at Turning Point?
Well, we have a Turning Point Action People's Convention, tpaction.com slash peoples.
And then the summer, of course, we have the RNC.
We're going to have a big presence there in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
We're going to be hiring up all across the country.
And then ready, set, go, Labor Day.
We are going to be fully embedded in these communities with relationships.
And we need all of your volunteer gusto as well.
Estimates say that 1.5 to 2 million people watch or listen to this program every single day.
That's what some people say, according to all the numbers.
And if you count social media, it's even more.
If every single one of you made a commitment to do something every day from Labor Day to Judgment Day, every day, we're going to be in a great spot.
But it's still, it's a coin flip.
Some people say, you know, the audience of the Charlie Kirk show is upwards of 10 million a week.
Okay, so if every single person who hears this says, I'm going to go do something, I'm going to find one or two people in my life that are not yet registered to vote, find the low prop voter.
You don't need to go get your hyper-involved MAGA uncle who goes to the MAGA rallies.
He's good.
You know what you need to get him to do?
Get him to go work.
Get him to go knock on a couple doors, to go make a couple phone calls.
Next time you're at a Denny's and you're out with your family and the waitress is there, be like, hey, how do you feel about the country?
How's it going?
I did this the other day.
I am ballot chasing in the micro.
Just the other day, doctor's appointment, kind of annual thing.
Nurse was there.
I was like, hey, how do you think the country is?
She's like, oh, the country is going terribly.
And it's like, oh, you're going to vote?
She's like, I don't usually vote.
She's like, but I think Trump was much better as a president.
Like, you need to vote.
Beyond Conservative Talking Points 00:15:40
We had a whole conversation.
Showed her the turning point action, how to register to vote link.
Your own little sphere of influence.
You could be a force multiplier.
And you might say, oh, we're up against, you know, this monolith.
Not, no, Stop it with that negative attitude that can do spirit.
It is right within our grasp.
And I'm not guaranteeing we're going to win.
I'm not guaranteeing we're going to lose.
I guarantee our agency can make the difference.
And the Democrats, they are increasingly worried.
Their entire little fragile coalition with the Israel-Gaza thing is falling apart.
Joe Biden is likely withholding necessary weaponry to Israel because he's worried about some Muslim voters in Michigan, foot on the gas.
Joe Biden just had like an incoherent sit-down interview with CNN and Aaron Burnett saying he never makes mistakes and the economy is great.
Show him.
He says, oh, you know, polling is really inaccurate.
You know what, Joe Biden, you might be right.
Polling very well might be inaccurate.
You might be right.
We might be up more, we might be down more.
Doesn't matter.
I don't want to hear people say, oh, we're going to win by five, win by 10.
We need to put in the work.
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Okay, everybody, welcome back.
Vivek Ramaswamy is with us.
Vivek, you have a big announcement with your podcast.
I saw you had quite a conversation with Ann Coulter.
Tell us all about it, Vivek.
Yeah, look, I spent a year on the presidential campaign speaking hard truths that I think were needed in our movement, and I'm continuing that now.
I've taken some time with family, but I want to continue those hard conversations, especially on the right.
I think we sometimes don't have enough healthy, open discussion and debate, even within our own movement, about why we believe the things we actually do.
And so I relaunched the podcast that we were running during the campaign.
It took a hiatus for a couple of months.
It's called Truth, and it's first episode with Ann Coulter.
It actually was supposed to be about what I think of as a hot topic, the N-word you're not supposed to say, which we said, which is nationalism.
And I think that nationalism is a hot topic in America, but Ann just kicked it off with, you know, she's a person who doesn't hold back.
She was very frank with me and she said, you know what?
I can't vote for you because you're an Indian, even though I agree with everything you have to say.
And let's just say that set us up for a great hour, actually, diving pretty deep into what it means to be a citizen of this country.
And, you know, we're looking forward to having more of those conversations into one of these a week.
It's part of a portfolio of what I'm doing going forward, Charlie, but I do think having some of these conversations where we're not just reciting the conservative talking points of the day, but really challenging ourselves to believe why, understand why we believe what we do.
That's the point of the podcast.
And so I hope a lot of people check it out.
And it's called the truth.
Let's look at my campaign.
I just got a taste of Ann Coulter's comments there, which I do not share for the record.
Play Cut 125.
So, Ann, thanks for coming on.
And I'm looking forward to our conversation today.
Me too.
Thanks for having me.
That was a fantastic opening monologue.
I too am a fan of yours.
So I'm going to make a point of disagreeing with you so that it will be fun.
You are so bright and articulate.
And I guess I can call you articulate since you're not an American black.
Can't say that about them.
That's derogatory.
And that was a great opening segment.
Lots of things to talk about there.
Oh, and I agreed with many, many things you said during, in fact, probably more than most other candidates when you were running for president.
But I still would not have voted for you because you're an Indian.
We'll get back to that.
So that's the teaser, Vivek.
Is that right?
Yeah, it was, it was actually, I was taken by shock because I know people are very candid, but I think that she represented a view that it's not a minority, it's not a fringe minority view, Charlie.
And I think it opened up a conversation about what role ethnic identity actually plays in grounding who we are as Americans.
I think it's a fair conversation to have.
And we're having that conversation at a moment where so many ethnicities, right, from Indian ethnicity to Asian to black to Hispanic, every ethnicity is allowed to be proud of their own ethnicity.
And I think one of the things that Ann Coulter chafes at, understandably, is that if you're white, you can't be proud of your own ethnic identity.
But I think that that risks making the mistake of actually forgetting about American identity along the way.
And I think that if we become sort of tribally attached to our own ethnic identities, which is normally a mistake you see made on the left, then I think that's going to be the fracturing of a country that was founded on a set of ideals that our founders enshrined.
And yes, do we have immigration policies that are selecting for a bunch of people who are randomly entering this country who have no allegiance to this country and let alone even anything of value to add to this country?
Yes, I think that is a big problem today.
But part of what we're seeing is a reaction to that, a reactionary wave that may cause us to forget what we stand for in the first place.
And so Ann and I, we challenge each other.
And I think a lot of good came out of it.
And I do think that we need more conversations like that on the right about what it means to be a positive American nationalist.
What does it actually mean to be a citizen?
You know, one of the things that occurred to me afterwards that I didn't get to ask her is, suppose if you have somebody who is a seventh or eighth generation American.
So look, I think that it's an interesting thought experiment.
Somebody's been in this country of Anglo-American stock for eight generations, but you have somebody who has adopted a child that was born in this country, but was of a different ethnic stock.
Maybe they have black skin.
Is that person any less American?
Of course they're not, right?
For having been brought up in that same household.
And so I think it's a kind of thought experiment that's put pressure on this idea that ethnicity or shade of melan on the base of your genetics has anything to do with your national identity.
We're making the same mistake as the left if we actually adopt that view.
But what we're not talking about enough is how do we create national cohesion that we're missing?
Making English the national language of the United States.
I think that's a no-brainer.
Making actually the actual knowledge of this country's constitution and history a precondition for becoming a full citizen of this country, no matter where you grew up before you're actually able to participate in the civic process of voting.
These are things that I think we haven't taken up.
And one of the questions that I often reflect on is, you know, why was I the only Republican candidate who's able to adopt certain positions that most of us agree with, that you got to be able to speak English if you're going to actually be a full citizen of this country, that you got to know something about this country to be able to be a full citizen of this country.
And I think those are the kinds of conversations that we ought to challenge each other with.
That's what this whole podcast relaunch is all about.
I'm going to be doing that once a week.
And the more we do that, I think the stronger our movement is going to be because of it.
Sure, we have our debates with the left.
And I think we ought to have even healthier debates between the America First wing of the new conservative movement and the neoconservative vision of foreign interventionism and a surveillance state.
And we've begun to have some of that.
But I think there's also room for even healthy debate about what the future of MAGA is, about what the future of America First is.
And I think that that debate strengthens us.
It reminds us why we stand for what we do.
And, you know, I think we could actually have a lot more room for that, where you'd take a topic like, you know, what level of aid should the United States be providing to Israel?
Should the U.S. be banning TikTok or not?
I think you have solid America-first MAGA patriots who love this country who end up on both sides of those questions.
And I think that we got to elevate that kind of thoughtful debate in a way that's going to make us stronger for it.
So, Vivek, I want to get your thoughts here.
The Democrats are clearly pivoting now that their law fair is failing.
They're saying that Trump won't accept the results of the election.
The DHS and CISA are gearing up election integrity from far-right threats and disinformation threats.
We need to demand that Democrats will accept the election results.
They're laying the groundwork actually not to do it.
Your thoughts, Vivek Ramaswamy.
Well, I find that offensive, Charlie, that DHS is going to make some proclamations now concerning election integrity.
You're right.
You know, it does sit under DHS, the purview of election security in this country.
Here's something DHS should be doing right now: make sure any illegal immigrant who's known to be in this country is removed from voter roles across this country.
Individual secretaries of state don't actually have that same information that DHS does.
Well, you know what?
You should match those two databases.
And so if you actually want to preach about election security in the 2024 election, I'm going to challenge my OCAS and DHS sitting under him to at least do the number one thing they can practically do is match the actual file of people who are known to be in this country illegally, match them to the voter roll.
They're going to have a lot of matches, Charlie, this year.
Well, you know what?
Separate the ones who shouldn't be.
That's the way they should be securing election integrity.
Instead, they're failing to do that, not because of a technical failure, but because they actually it's a failure of intention.
They don't want to do it and then are going to use pions to election integrity to try to turn on their head what many of us on the right have been saying for a long time.
So that's my answer to that.
Yeah, the Department of Homeland Security is now saying that they're going to monitor far-right extremist activity and collaborate with FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies to neutralize particular threats of far-right extremist activity.
Vivek, what can we expect now that their law fair has failed in this second chapter of unconventional warfare against our movement?
Oh, this is still very early, Charlie.
And I think the people missed this.
I think the next six months, we're going to enter some, I think, really frightening territory.
We're skating on thin ice as a country, right?
What do they try to do?
First, you got the civil suits against Donald Trump.
Then you've got the state prosecutions.
Then you've got the federal prosecutions.
Then you've got the attempts to remove him off the ballot extrajudicially.
Now you see, I mean, this is chilling.
The ability to try to strip him of his secret service if he's convicted of any of this.
And this is still just the beginning, Charlie.
And so I think we're going to see a lot of twists and turns.
Anybody on our side who's getting complacent at the current poll numbers, you know what?
It's time to wake up and actually realize the other side has always been one step ahead.
So can I make a prediction of exactly what they're going to do?
No, I can't, which is actually what makes them so good at it on the other side of this war.
We got to get up to being one step ahead ourselves.
And I do think that we're going to see, I mean, I still think it's far from a foregone conclusion that Biden is going to be the nominee at the end of this.
I think they're leading us into a false trap, training all of our fire on Biden.
What a best way to make a bait and switch in the final months leading into that election.
I think there's a lot of gamesmanship we're going to see even in the way the election is conducted.
I think the mass migration policies that you've seen and the acceleration of that in the last couple of years is not unrelated to the fact that we have an election coming up this November.
I want to play a piece of tape here about the Israel-Gaza issue that is breaking the left.
Let's play Cut 117, please.
Do you think that President Biden could lose the election over this?
Well, that's what I worry about.
Look, I think Biden has a lot of accomplishments.
And the point that I would make and have made before, Joe Biden is not running against God.
He's not running against the perfect candidate.
He's running against a guy named Donald Trump, the most dangerous president in the history of this country.
So what I would say to young people and all Americans, if you believe in the foundations of American democracy, you cannot vote for Trump, who's undermining democracy.
So I believe that was the right tape, but there was one in particular they believe that they are going to lose the election, Vivek, or that he could lose the election because of the Gaza war.
Is this breaking the back of the Democrat donors versus their frothing at the mouth base?
Look, I think that it is.
I mean, there's a real fissure within the Democratic Party.
But we got to be honest then, Charlie, for calling this like it is.
There's also a fissure in the Republican Party.
You and I were just talking about the weaponization of the federal government, how the federal government, including DHS, in conjunction with the FBI and other national security agencies, are going to be spying on so-called right-wing extremist groups.
Well, let's be honest that we also have a wing of the Republican Party that just helped enact into law the very toolkit, FISA 702 and its expansion that allows the federal government to do that even more effectively than it ever has.
And so the reality, if we're just speaking hard truths here and try to stay true to what I say I do is, yes, we have that fissure in the Democratic Party.
And I do think that that's an opportunity for the Republican Party.
But we've also got deep-seated fissures, ideological fissures from war aid to Ukraine to the existence of a surveillance state through the reauthorization of FISA 702.
When we say we're against the weaponization of government, reauthorizing more of it that will likely be used against Republicans this year, that's also a fissure in the Republican Party.
And so I'm against this culture of complacency.
There's a million things we could look at on the other side that CNN or Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden is saying on a given day that sounds so nonsensical or so stupid that it gives us hope because we get to laugh at it.
I'm worried actually the bigger risk is that we're expecting this red wave in 2024, just like we did in 2022.
And for some of the same reasons, it's not going to come unless we actually step up and actually do something about it.
And you're among the people and TPUSA action is among the groups that's actually laying the groundwork to say that we're not going to be complacent.
So I applaud you for that and all the work that you're doing.
And I'm looking forward to coming to Michigan and talking more about the efforts that we're going to actually need to lay the groundwork for to actually win this election.
But this idea of looking at what they're saying to each other, and yes, they're losing some of their far left support and analyzing that and feeling good about ourselves.
No, I don't think this is a moment for that type of complacency.
We got to wake up and fix what's the disorder and discord and lack of coherence on our own side of the house and also get in charge of the tactics that are actually going to win this election, because otherwise we're at risk of losing yet again.
Preparing for Self-Reliance 00:02:29
Yeah, in closing here, Vivek, you look at the issue set.
It favors us tremendously.
If we think it is going to happen automatically, I think we're in for a surprise.
I still give Joe Biden a slight advantage.
Not that he's a better candidate.
He's the worst president of my lifetime, but that he has the institution, he has the machine, that he has all the different levers of power, and he's better at gaming the system.
It's up for us to get into the tactics and also lay out a proper vision.
This summer, you're going to be doing a lot of speaking, Vivek, about what that vision looks like.
Kind of give us a little bit of a tease.
Yeah, look, I think one of the things we got to do is show up in the places where traditional Republicans don't actually show up.
Think about college campuses.
Think about the inner city.
Think about where people who have traditionally been relegated to Democrats.
A lot of them are hungry to come our way if we just extend the olive branch and actually show up and stand for America First principles.
I've been to the south side of Chicago.
There are more people there, Charlie, than in many Republican donor meetings I've been in who are in favor of using our own military to seal the southern border.
All right.
Many of those people are dead set against just forking over blindly more money to Ukraine.
And so I think a true America first wing of the Republican Party, and that's obviously what Donald Trump represents from the front, is going to bring along people in this country who would have never thought of themselves of voting for a traditional Republican.
And so this summer, I'm going to help in whatever way I can, heading all the way through the election in showing up in those non-traditional places.
You know, you don't need to just stand side by side with the other people who are showing up in the traditional places.
You know, I'll do that for wherever I can be helpful.
But the real place I'd like to be helpful is going where Republicans traditionally haven't gone.
And that's a big part of how we're going to actually win this, not by a little bit.
We have to win it by a lot because a landslide minus some shenanigans is still a victory.
And so that's the standard we got to hold ourselves to in November.
Vivek, thank you so much.
Excellent work.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
And check out his new podcast, Truth.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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You tried to warn people three years ago.
Dr. Malone, what's going on here?
Well, Charlie, we do seem to have a gradual rollout of limited hangout responses from the federal government, as well as from the manufacturers concerning the adverse events and death associated with these products.
But in the case of the AstraZeneca product, they're busy trying to hide with words or obfuscate what is going on here.
Technically, they are not withdrawing this because of adverse events, according to corporate PR.
But basically, due to the fact that no one's using their product or buying it, they mask this with nice words about there are multiple vaccines on the market that are more updated to the current variant and basically write it off as that.
But concurrent, there's a major lawsuit, really a class action suit ongoing in the UK, having to do with a problem called idiopathic thrombocytopenic per pur or ITP.
Basically, this is microvascular clotting, and it is linked to AstraZeneca's product.
Even though AstraZeneca categorically denied that this is the case, that's no longer defensible.
And there's a court case that's proving that, and it's probably going to take a little bit of a bite out of their profit margins.
So behind the scenes and in the British press that's more open, they're attributing it to this lawsuit and this additional adverse event, which, by the way, the FDA knew about way back before these were even licensed.
And it's not restricted just to the AstraZeneca product.
But that's the dynamic that's going on is AZ is not being able to sell their vaccine product, which is restricted to Europe and the UK.
And nobody wants to buy it.
They're not taking the jab.
It's not updated.
Not that that would matter because there's a new study out from the Cleveland Clinic that shows that even the updated vaccines are, I think Cleveland Clinic calls it poorly effective and associated with, here's another fun term, negative efficacy, which means it makes it more likely that you develop COVID weeks to months after you receive the jab.
So even the updated vaccines aren't working and they seem to be actually making people more likely to get the disease.
Over.
So Dr. Malone, who's going to go to jail over this?
I mean, this is one of the great injustices in the history of the civilization.
There must be justice.
Yeah, I'm with you.
And my wife and I were discussing this this morning from the cynical live too close to DC frame of reference.
I think that Peter Dazik is likely to get excommunicated metaphorically from his ability to receive federal funds in the future and also EcoHealth Alliance.
I think Tony Fauci is going to be subjected to a vigorous tongue-lashing by the select subcommittee in the House, probably nothing more than that.
It is, as you say, a case, strong case can be made.
This is the largest mass murder event in modern history.
And I think it's highly unlikely that there will be the accountability that the vaccine damaged and harmed in the general populace deserves because it's also becoming increasingly clear based on the select subcommittee's investigations of the origins.
They're restricting their activities just to the origins of the virus.
And they've just disclosed that they've reviewed a report from the State Department that's classified that clearly indicates a role of the People's Liberation Army, the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the origins of the infection, that this is a lab leak of an engineered pathogen.
And of course, Mr. Dazik categorically denied that or any knowledge of the involvement of the PLA.
But they won't even touch the issues in the House Select Subcommittee on Investigations and Accountability, staffed by seven physicians, as I recall.
They won't even ask questions about the JAB.
So I want to now play this piece of tape here.
It's 126.
It is Dr. Deborah Burks with Chris Cuomo, of all people.
It is very important.
Play cut 126.
What is your opening statement about whether or not the COVID vaccines were effective and whether they are safe?
They were very effective for what they were supposed to be used for, which was prevent severe disease and hospitalization and deaths.
Were there issues with the vaccines when you've immunized millions, close to billions of people?
Tracking that will give us critical information because what I love that you had Sean on and he made the point.
A lot of his symptoms are similar to long COVID symptoms.
Well, that makes total sense.
That happens often with immunizations.
But is the reason because they don't want to know that they, being the deep state, big pharma, the government, whatever boogeyman you want to fill in, because the truth is the vaccines didn't really work and there are way more side effects and more people got sick and got better as a result of it.
Well, that's why we need all the people to come forward that have had reactions because I'm not sure all of them have been reported.
Do I think it's millions?
No.
Could it be thousands?
Yes, but there's millions of people with long COVID.
Dr. Malone, she's backpedaling, backtracking.
Hold on, first they said that no one had any issues with it.
They want everyone to come forward.
They're going to have a lot of people.
Dr. Malone, that is an extraordinary clip.
These people have blood on their hands.
So, Charlie, it was also almost complete lies.
The vaccine was not licensed for prevention of disease.
That statement that she just made is a complete fabrication.
It is well documented.
You can go back to the emergency use authorization.
The FDA authorization was for prevention of infection and disease.
It had nothing to do with reduction in symptoms or severity of disease.
That's just a cover-up lie that's been promoted repeatedly because it's the only thing that they've been able to fall back on because the data on prevention of infection and disease is so clearly overwhelming that the product does not work for that.
Her statement regarding the number of vaccine injured is also clearly a lie.
All one has to do is look at the VARES reports.
And more close to the mark is the recent comment from Ashish Jaw, dean of, I believe it's Brown University School of Medicine,
who is the Biden administration's COVID response coordinator on Fox News, where he recently acknowledged that physicians are afraid to engage patients and even raise the concern that their symptoms post-vaccination may be attributable to the vaccine.
He speaks about the history of medicine and this unwillingness of physicians to acknowledge unpleasant truths and that this has been a historic trend.
So Jaw seems to be much closer to the mark, but this is part of this, as I said, kind of limited hangout sequential rollout that we're seeing, starting with the New York Times op-ed that's been famously re-quoted with a very, very modest limited hangout position, acknowledging that there were at least some deaths.
That's also been documented.
The CDC knew that there were deaths associated with the vaccine in 21.
So that Burke's has no credibility anymore.
She has just lied and misrepresented all the way through this.
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So, Dr. Malone, if you were to conjecture or guess based on all available evidence of what the bad guys might have planned in this calendar year of 2024, what would it be?
Oh, they're definitely ramping up the fear point around bird flu.
That's open and transparent now.
You're asking a broad question where the bad guys have planned.
I really enjoyed the latest edition of the New American, where there were multiple essays discussing the electoral fraud issues.
So, I think we can fully expect to see manipulations of outcomes in real time.
And the only debate in those essays was basically around can we overwhelm the fraud through mass voting in favor of conservative candidates.
So, big picture, we can expect ongoing, as we've been seeing now for the past two elections at least, evidence attempts to manipulate election outcomes.
But in terms of public health, the big issue that's confronting us right now is the quote pandemic treaty and the international health regulations at the World Health Organization.
This is a clear power grab by the individuals that also bear a lot of the responsibility for the true misinformation, disinformation, and malinformation that's been promoted, and that's the World Health Organization, Mr. Tedros, and his colleagues.
And on the basis of their clear mismanagement of the COVID crisis and multiple misrepresentations, they now assert that they need more money and power in the ability to intervene in nation states and to bypass constitutional provisions.
So, that's the big one, the big issue that many of us have our eyes on right now is the upcoming WHO terms.
And we fully expect Mr. Biden to execute a presidential directive or something along those lines, which has the power of a treaty.
The Senate is finally, finally waking up to this.
And there was a recent statement, I think, by the entire Republican caucus in the Senate that if Mr. Biden is going to agree to any of these terms and conditions at WHO, that he must subject them to oversight and a vote because they will have the force of a treaty.
And so, at least the Republican side of the Senate is insisting finally that they be allowed to participate in oversight of treaty and to execute their constitutional authority to thumbs up a thumbs down based on a two-thirds vote.
So, that's the big one.
But the fear is continuing to be promoted.
In Dasek's testimony, he threw down the presence of PCR signal in milk associated with bird flu.
We have very little evidence, I think, one or two individuals in the United States that have been infected.
This H5N1 is poorly infectious in humans.
And bird flu has been with us as long as we've had modern influenza research.
And we have, by the way, three vaccines in the stockpile that BARDA has funded for H5N1.
So that's not such an issue.
We've had a repeated rollout of a variety of fear porn relating now, most recently, tuberculosis, earlier leprosy.
in Florida.
This weaponized fear, I argue, is fundamentally unethical.
We have had fear weaponized to control populations regarding infectious disease now almost constantly for four years.
A lot of us are getting to it.
But I think that we have to stand up and make a clear, unequivocal point that this is unethical behavior.
The weaponization of fear concerning infectious disease by industry and government is fundamentally unethical.
It must be rejected.
We must call them out for doing so, as we must call them out on all of their other perversions, such as the misrepresentation of the likes of you and I, that we're far right, quote unquote, when in fact we're center right and they're the ones that are far left.
Exactly.
Dr. Malone, thank you so much.
God bless you.
Hope to have you on again soon.
Thank you.
Thank you, Charlie.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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