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Feb. 28, 2024 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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The Latest Case for Never Apologizing

Virginia Lt. Gov. Winsome Sears just apologized after "misgendering" a mentally ill "transgender" person in the Virginia legislature. Charlie wants to know: Why? What issue will we take a stand on, if not calling a man a man? For more content, become a member at members.charliekirk.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Virginia Transgender Issue Debate 00:14:22
Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, Andrew and I riff about some transgender issue in Virginia regarding Winsom Sears and the lieutenant governor of Virginia.
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So we want to talk about Winsome Sears.
Now, I don't know if you saw the recent development in the story, though, because there was an apology.
Yeah.
Five Winston Sears.
Yeah.
So she basically just.
Well, no, she said, I'm not here to upset anybody.
I'm here to do the people's business that you elected me for.
Okay, well, let's go through the whole story.
And maybe that I think there is an apology that she just recently said three times.
I apologize, I apologize, I apologize.
But okay, let's go through the story here.
So, what happened in Virginia?
So, the original, I mean, we'll play the video here, but the original clip is that you know, she's Virginia's lieutenant governor.
She came to office in that, you know, 2022.
The only wave we've had, which was Virginia, 2021.
That's right.
They do office.
Glenn Young.
By the way, that was the closest thing to a wave we've seen.
That's it, right?
It's because it was a local, local election.
The RNC wasn't involved.
So, Virginia Lieutenant Governor Winsom Sears refers to transgender state senator Danica Rohm as sir.
And then basically, chaos ensues.
He storms out of the room, and the Senate went into two recesses.
So, let's go ahead and play cut 64.
Senator May state it, Madam President.
How many votes will be what it takes to pass this bill with the emergency clause?
That would be four-fifths, Senator.
And what would be the exact number for that, Madam President?
Yes, sir.
That would be 32.
The question is: shall the bill pass?
Those in favor of that motion will record their votes.
Aye, those opposed, no.
Are the senators ready to vote?
Have all the senators?
Okay, and then I think it continues in cut 65, right?
Yep, 65.
I am not here to upset anyone.
I am here to do the job that the people of Virginia have called me to do, and that is to treat everyone with respect and dignity.
I myself have at times not been afforded that same respect and dignity.
But in this body, and as long as I am president of the Senate, and by the grace of God, I will be treated with respect and dignity, and I will treat everyone else with respect and dignity.
So, that was a pretty triumphant deal.
She has now since backed off, and in three different times, I apologize, I apologize, I apologize.
When you watch the clip, it's actually she's she's it seems like she does it subconsciously because this trans person presents very masculine.
I mean, just to be honest.
And I think she, Winsom Sears did it sort of inadvertently.
So it doesn't surprise me that she kind of like backed off it.
But it sort of speaks to the ridiculousness of the whole notion where you have people that are pretty masculine features, they're built.
And we all are sort of forced to pretend.
But it is a man.
That's a man.
That's a man.
That's why Winsom Sears said, sir.
But you could tell she wasn't even thinking about it.
She just kind of was grabbing for papers and said, sir.
So it's actually kind of a humorous clip.
But I don't think, I'm kind of disappointed.
Winsome Sears never should have apologized.
Misgendering.
It was an accident.
But misgendering isn't a real thing, right?
Yeah.
Yes, right.
I mean, that's a whole.
If I called you a lady, then that would be misgendering.
That would be misgendering.
Right.
That's the only thing.
The only misgendering is.
That's really funny.
That's the only misgendering.
That's the point.
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So I instantly went back to this Mark Robinson clip, which is basically one of the more base clips that you'll ever hear in church or in politics or anywhere for that matter.
But he's the lieutenant governor of North Carolina.
So you got Virginia, North Carolina, neighboring states, lieutenant governors, lots of misgendering going on.
Cut 56.
Here's something else I'm not supposed to say.
Ain't but two genders.
Two genders.
Ain't nothing but men and women.
You can go to the doctor and get cut up.
You can go down to the dress shop and get made up.
You can go down there and get drugged up.
But at the end of the day, you were just a drugged up, dressed up, made up, cut up, man or woman.
You ain't changed what God put in you, that DNA.
You can't transcend God's creation.
I don't care how hard you try.
Well, I think I love it.
Yeah, what we saw in Virginia was just an example of that.
And by the way, to be fair to Winsom Sears, it's a purple state at best.
It's a blue state.
But she's not up for re-election.
Remember, it's a one-stop.
But the whole state is trying to, you know, sort of act like, you know, yes, we're Republicans, but we're reasonable.
We're not those Steve Bannon conservatives or whatever.
So it's a little bit different of a political dynamic.
I think that if there, I'll be, I'm contrarian, obviously.
I think if there's a hill to die on, it's calling a man a man.
It's reality.
Yeah, I know.
Let's be real.
And it's the way she could have owned it is like, okay, in a chamber, I guess I might have, you know, called you what you want to be called, but you look like a dude.
You are a dude.
Stop taking this so seriously, dude.
If she would have said that, it would have been hilarious.
Well, I mean, at the very least, Winsom Sears could have said, I apologize for that position on it.
I'm saying at the very least, maybe a middle ground would have been like, hey, sorry, you know, I'm reacting to what my eyes see.
It was a subconscious thing I said.
You know, I'm just saying.
Or what you could have said is my intent wasn't to make you upset.
You should have enough strength in your own identity that if someone calls you sir, you just kind of laugh it off.
Yeah.
But obviously, you're a fragile.
You could just refer to the person like their last name.
You see that?
I'm trying to behave.
Fragile.
Just use the last name instead of just leave the pronouns completely.
I mean, listen, there is a part of me, and maybe this is just because, you know, maybe I'm showing my moderate strength part of my thinking here, a moderate streak.
But I do want to sort of, in a better world, if, you know, for example, somebody changes their name because they don't like their birth family or they have a falling out.
Maybe they change their first name, whatever.
That happened.
I have a cousin.
That's different.
Exactly.
But I want to respect that person's choice of a new name.
So there's this part of me that wants to be respectful.
But then it comes with all this baggage about how they're imposing it on our children.
And we have to get these constant news reports of like first trans woman to be elected into the state senate in Virginia.
But also, the Virginia Democrats immediately said the apology wasn't accepted.
Yeah, 100%.
Because they're petty little.
Yes.
But then also they break quorum over this.
Yeah.
Over misgendering.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a total.
And by the way, again, if you saw somebody making, it was an accident.
Winston Sears, that was an accident.
If you saw that happen, you would think people could be a little bit more gracious towards one another.
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So I'm going to ask you, Andrew, you know, you live in a ruling class enclave.
Where is the trans thing amongst kind of like super rich people by the beach?
I'm not kidding.
I'm actually curious.
Like, where do they fall on this?
I mean, I think in Santa Barbara is what you're referring to.
Yeah, yeah.
Kids off limits, but live and let live, probably.
Yeah, I would think so.
Like, for example, if they started pushing that on children in my sphere, I would feel completely comfortable in Santa Barbara to say, hey, this isn't okay.
And I would fully expect I'm going to have some backup there.
But I mean, yeah, I mean, Santa Barbara's probably left of center, but it's more conservative than a lot of places.
Because this issue, it's probably like too much for the kids.
But if I see a man addressed, be respectful, yeah, we just, you know, whatever.
And then privately, we all talk about it and laugh about it.
Oh, is that right?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it's no different.
I mean, that's what's so funny about it.
Even liberals probably like, you know, I don't know.
Yeah, a lot of orthodoxy.
I'm not talking.
Listen, I'll be, I mean, I'm not hanging out with died-in-the-wool ideologues.
I mean, but a lot of my friends, yeah, they vote Democrat.
And then, you know, but I bring this up and they kind of go, that's a good point.
And I've had a few of them go, like, you know, during COVID, I'm like, you voted for this.
And they're like, I didn't vote for this.
I'm like, yes, yes, you did.
And there's actually been some lights that have come on.
But, you know, Santa Barbara's got a moderately conservative mayor.
I'm just curious that if it isn't as far as we would be on the trans thing, but it's not.
But my kids go to a conservative Christian school, and if they tried that crap there, I mean, I'd be turning over tables.
Do you think the trans lobby is losing momentum?
Yeah.
Actually, you know, it's funny.
I had a dinner with a reporter.
I don't know if our audience knows that's what I do with the other part of my day.
I constantly working with press and meeting.
But I actually like some of them.
And, you know, we've talked about how the New York Times is not nearly as bad as the Washington Post.
I think the Washington Post is actually trying to change that a little bit.
AP is by far the worst outlet I've ever worked with.
So completely dishonest hacks.
Happy AP.
Yeah, completely.
Anyway, so I'm having dinner in D.C. with a New York Times reporter from New York.
He happened to be in D.C.
And he told me, he said, all my friends, we're all sort of like old school Democrats.
He's like, yeah, I hate Trump, but this is what's getting insane.
He's like, I'm telling you, if Republicans want to win, make the trans issue part of the central messaging.
And he told me that because in New York, he was saying, we're all getting sick of it.
All my, like, kind of, you know, the.
What element of it?
The kids part?
Just the kids part, just the in-your-face, the constant drumbeat of it, just the psychological, you know, everybody feels inundated by this, right?
And so he was noticing it in New York and seeing that like a lot of his bougie friends were getting sick of it.
And he was just like, listen, somebody needs to speak sanity into this craziness because it's going off the rails.
And this was like three years ago.
And so I remember thinking then that if this guy's telling me this, and this is a Pulisar Prize-winning New York Times reporter.
And, you know, it's stuck with me ever since.
But I think it's a winning issue.
Rising Authoritarian Populism Globally 00:05:23
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In every democracy around the world, we are seeing a rising movement of either authoritarian populism or skepticism about democracy itself.
I would love to have them define democracy, Andrew.
That is a term they use so much.
It's kind of like racism.
Here it is perfectly.
Thank you, Ryan.
Let's play Cut 45.
But I will say that in all of our democracies, in every democracy around the world, we are seeing a rising movements of uh either uh authoritarian populism uh, or uh skepticism about democracy itself.
Uh, and we all need to recommit ourselves to standing up not just for Ukraine but, through standing up for Ukraine, to the very principles that make our countries strong and free.
I remember when Canada used to be this really decent, boring country.
Make, make Canada boring again, used to be so boring and like fun to visit yeah, and now it's like nice, it's like beta Nazism.
Well, what it's?
You know?
What this whole thing reminds me of is the Mike Benz interview which, by the way if um obviously, he did an interview with Tucker that went mega viral uh, but then he came on this show like two days after it released really well, yeah it.
No, it did, it did phenomenal.
So if you haven't, if you haven't seen that episode, by by all means, look at it again.
But he talks about this timeline of basically, 2014.
Uh, you know the Crimea, seizure of Crimea by the Russians uh, went into where they sort of realized tweets, not tanks, was the new power.
Um, so they, so the intel agencies and our NATO PART AND Partners started this uh, censorship regime.
It really started in earnest then in 2016 um, with the rise of Brexit and then Donald Trump, and they started seeing this populist wave and they they basically started treating populism um as the same as they would treat the rise of Pro-Russian ideologies from in Eastern Europe, right?
So they started using it and treating them the same and using censorship the same upon both of these.
And all of these three-letter agency personnel scattered to the wind, all these NGOs to sort of censor this.
And so what Trudeau is really doing here is he's sort of confirming Mike Benz's thesis that Western elites that now control the levers of power in our representative democracies view populism as an existential threat.
But you have said really clearly on this show that if you want to get populism, do two things.
You mass immigrate and then you mass print.
And you mass print.
So the West is guilty of both of those.
I think any other show says it the way we say it.
No, it's super simple.
If you want a rise of populism, you know, just tell your citizens that you don't have any borders anymore and your currency is going to be worse and correct.
And then all of a sudden, a country as powerful and as wealthy as America, all of a sudden, the everyday citizens are like, I'm living paycheck to paycheck under Biden.
So I want to focus on us.
I want to focus on our border.
And that's what's so interesting about what's playing out is you've got Mike Johnson meeting with Schumer, McConnell, and Biden at the White House today.
And Schumer comes out and says, hey, history's looking at you.
Then Johnson comes out and says, actually, I'm looking at America.
So, yeah, I mean, tough luck here, guys.
I'm not going to pass some Ukraine $60 billion funding bills.
They're really squeezing him right now.
They're squeezing him big.
And he deserves our appreciation, admiration, and prayers because he's standing alone.
He has said that there will not be a government shutdown.
But the question is, will he fund Ukraine?
And are we going to get another CR?
I mean, yeah, that's my one beef with Johnson.
I want him to be okay with shutting down the government.
Like, put that on the table.
Look, guys, Biden has all the executive authority he needs in order to close this border and secure it.
Trump showed us that.
So if you want a funded government, if you want to fund Ukraine, play ball and really play ball.
And if you're not, if you're not willing to, which all indications are that Joe Biden is not willing to close this border down, then sorry, you don't get any of these nice, shiny things.
So it should be on the table.
It's my one beef with him, but the fact that he's standing with him on Ukraine, the country's with him on a border wall.
The country's with him.
I mean, he is the, yes, he has a slight majority, but he actually has a very powerful people's majority of the country.
100%.
Yeah, and that's what we've learned with Trump.
The Power of People's Majority 00:00:47
If the people are with you, you are indestructible.
We've learned this with attacks that you've experienced, you know, Bannon's experience, Trump's experience, even that Matt Gates' experience when he first took McCarthy out.
The people were with him.
The grassroots, we've learned this with Rana.
When the people are with you, you have power.
And it's sort of a question of whether or not you're willing to stand in the gap and take the slings and arrows because the media is going to be vicious on him.
Can you imagine living in DC day in and day out and having to deal with this type of military-industrial complex coming down on your back?
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