THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 30 — Civil War, Texas-Style? What's a Hicklib? Barbie Oscar Snub?
In this week’s ThoughtCrime, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer, and Blake Neff engage with many compelling questions, including: -Is the Biden Administration's border invasion sending America into a constitutional crisis? -What is a "hicklib," and why did they come so unglued over last weeks discussion of DEI for pilots? -Does Barbie's Oscar snub matter enough for conservatives to talk about it?Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Happy Thought Crime Saturday00:03:48
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Okay, everybody, happy Thought Crime Thursday.
If you are watching for the first time, this might be a familiar aesthetic because clips from this program have been viewed over 20 million times in the last week.
And we will get into that.
Blake, you're famous now.
Howdy, howdy.
You weren't famous before, but you are famous.
Oh, yeah.
The fame is growing every single day.
Tyler, good to see you.
Happy to be here.
It's been a fun week.
You know, I have a theory as to why this all broke.
And Jack is with us, and Jack has the first topic, but let me just say this theory.
I think because our stream was so successful in the New Hampshire primary night, it was a rising tide lifts all boats, and it just had a bunch of people then going through previously, like recently posted content because it was a lag effect.
We had the program last week, and then it was just nothing, nothing, nothing, New Hampshire.
And then the night of the New Hampshire primary, this idea of the pilot story started to go viral.
I prefer the idea that there's just some poor schlub at Media Matters or something who's just ordered to watch every single piece of content.
Oh, no, we know that.
Yeah.
And like, maybe he was just behind the curve.
Like, he's really slow, laggardly, but he's got to watch it.
He's like in real time.
And sometimes it's just like they really are not on top of it.
So, so, Jack, uh, we're doing very well on this wonderful website, Rumble.
And you have the first topic tonight.
You're very enthusiastic.
You're a big Barbie fan.
So, what is going on with Barbie?
No, so, so, you know, Charlie, just real quick, you know, it's very strange.
I was, I was out reporting on the campaign trail earlier today, had to fly in for thought crime, and I just made sure right before I went up, I said, guys, could you tell me the name of my pilot by chance before I get in?
I'm not going to name the airline United.
And they said, his name, oh, his name is John Smith.
And I said, oh, okay, great.
Wonderful.
Thank you so much.
No, but today's today's first topic, before we go on.
So this is Charlie.
It's not, I know we're going to talk a little bit more about air travel and the state of air travel a little bit later in the show.
But tonight we're going to talk about the Oscars because we all love the Oscars.
The Barbie Movie Debate00:11:32
We're all huge Oscar fans.
Blake has never missed an Oscars actually since he's been alive and he's gone back and can memorize.
He can do the Roman Emperors, we all know.
But he can actually tell you every Oscar winner of every single category, all the way back to the first Oscars.
And uh, this this year around Charlie Barbie, Margo Robbie snubbed for the best actress category.
Greta Gerwig for best director, also snubbed.
But you know who got nominated for best actor?
Oh, that's right, Ryan Gosling.
For Ken and for the, as Rush used to call them, the feminazis out there, it was basically like 9-11, because the patriarchy got the achievement, while the women were told, well, you are not allowed on stage, you have to stay in the kitchen.
And so you know it really.
It really just goes to show you folks, we're back, we're so, absolutely back, and they're losing, they're actually losing their minds over this Charlie, that the idea that a guy who remember people have to understand too about, about Ryan Gosling, what he's doing is he's playing a woman's conception of a man right, whereas Margot Rabbi is playing a woman's conception of a woman and, let's be honest, her portrayal is completely boring.
But a lot of people have pointed out that Ken on his i'm sorry it is other.
I mean look, she's gorgeous.
That you know.
Tanya was telling me that she liked the outfits, but Tanya actually fell asleep watching the movie and whereas Ken goes on this whole story arc where he actually understands that in the real world, so he, so Kens, are basically slaves in Barbie World um, and and this movie really in many ways is birth of a nation for women, and he then goes and become and finds out that in the real world, men are on all the money and men have been all the presidents,
and men have invented everything and are and are in charge of the most successful companies.
And so he goes back to Barbie World and he, he leads the men to liberation and there's just something, there's just something very ironically glorious that he's the one who gets the Oscar nomination and not them.
Well, so one of the things that makes it funny, they're complaining about this and we we shouldn't miss this, by the way, that this got commentary from Hillary Clinton.
Who is this person?
Yes, I want to dig deep, deep here.
A lot of people have forgotten this.
Hillary Clinton actually is the person who ran for president once uh, a long, a long time ago.
I know it's, it's easy to forget, but there was this person, Hillary Clinton.
She was the wife of, of Bill Clinton, an actual president and she tried to run for president, and so they put her into the news cycle.
And so yesterday she tweeted in response to the Oscar nominations, Greta and Margo, while it can sting to win the box office, but not take home the gold, your millions of fans love you.
You're both so much more than Kenuff, which is a Ken thing, and then uh, hashtag Hillary Barbie.
She appears to have made that up herself.
Now what stands out as funny to me is they're talking like it's a big sec.
Like NEW YORK Times has this headline, uh like for Barbie fans online, a bitterly Ironic Oscar snub.
Margot Robbie missed the Academy Award nomination for actress, a fact that was a little too on the nose for some.
I will note the Oscar category is for best actress.
So the implication is she got left out due to sexism, but she just didn't get the nomination compared to other women competing for the same category for other films where they, as far as I know, played women.
Maybe some of them played dudes.
It's all the rage these days.
But so it fits into this realm in cinema where they just complain about things that are not real and don't happen.
A few years ago, they had a Captain Marvel movie come out about, it was one of those stupid superhero movies, and they acted like it was the first time a woman had ever starred in a major motion picture.
But in fact, many women have starred in motion pictures, and best actress has been an Oscar category, going back, as far as I know, to the original Oscars.
But I guess the cause of fighting systemic sexism has been going on for 100 years and will continue to go on because they are, in the end, systematically unhappy.
Has the Oscars ever nominated a biological woman into the male category or vice versa?
Or we're waiting for that.
That progress has been.
Well, they have nominated some women for best director, even though all the best directors are, in fact, men.
So there's something like there's a bit of that.
I thought a woman did Hurt Locker or something.
Yeah, yeah.
Yes.
A woman.
James Cameron's ex-wife, actually.
She won for that.
I believe she did.
And I think she was the first one to win for it.
In all seriousness, good movie.
I know.
I will just say I'm not exactly one to defend left-wing talking points, but usually men are the best directors.
But I actually think that's a good movie.
Yeah, it was a perfectly fine movie.
I pulled that off the top of my head.
So women have won.
Women have one.
Great.
No, I'm not arguing.
I was just trying to think.
I just said that that's my whole that I'm not exactly.
Clearly, adult curves are real.
And we're going to talk about that.
Not exactly a cinephile.
I just remember I liked Hurt Locker, and I remember everyone made a big thing that it was a female director.
But you think about it, the best director is an objectively great movie.
And by the way, the guy from the Bourne movie is the main actor, right?
I can't think of a single movie I like that had a woman that directed it.
I just don't know.
Apparently, a woman won Best Director in 2020 and 2021.
Jane Campion and Chloe Zhao.
I don't really watch movies because they're all CIA psychological operation programming.
Yeah, I haven't watched any movies lately either, other than Jeremy Renner.
Yes, Jeremy Renner, he's a good actor.
I think he's a great actor.
I don't know his politics.
He's a good actor.
Okay, Chloe Zhao.
I think he won't be, which was Mad Deem, which was a similar movie.
I think so.
He lives in Reno.
Yeah, I think he's a.
Chloe Zhao won for Nomad Land, a movie I didn't watch, and Jane Campion won for The Power of the Dog, a movie I have not watched.
Yeah, and when did The Color Purple win?
When that one was considered to be a good movie, I said, I'm done.
Like, this is all just garbage.
It's not like an 80s movie.
I would.
Oh, I know.
There's a recent they remade out there.
No, no, no, not 1988.
You guys are all out of the mix.
No, the color purple won recently.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
They did a 2023 version that Obama liked it a lot.
Yes, I know.
I think it won an award.
Right?
I don't know.
You know more about these movies than I do, apparently.
I don't watch the Oscars.
I'm just chilling.
I would note that Charlie's denials are becoming increasingly implausible.
I've passively scanned the news.
I don't watch the Oscars.
I did not watch The Color Purple.
I did not watch The Color Purple.
Charlie unconvincingly lied.
I can tell you, I definitely didn't watch this.
Do you hang out with Obama to watch movies with him?
Jeremy Rennie.
Only Arthur's Vineyard.
Jeremy Renner got in trouble a few years ago for.
Didn't he get in a car accident or something?
Yeah, he had a really bad accident.
He almost died or something.
I think I've heard that he was conservative.
He's a hard culture knowledge.
I heard that he was conservative, but he was making fun of Black Widow for being promised.
Oh, it was a mobile accent.
Okay, I was close.
Yeah, it was a terrible through.
Yeah, it was like a really bad freak accent.
All right, so Jack, so for the audience that doesn't Barbie, such as I, what is the significance here?
Is it just kind of to enjoy?
The one thing I was going to throw out that the that on Margot Robbie's behalf is that Margot Robbie was absolutely robbed of the best actress role in when she was nominated, but when she put out the movie I Tanya, where she played Tanya Harding, I think it was back in 2017 or 2018.
Skater, right?
Or the figure skater?
Yeah, the skater.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So the figure.
So Tanya Harding was the one where, and everybody thinks that Tanya Harding attacked Nancy Kerrigan at the 1994 Olympics, but it was actually like the people around Tanya Harding attacked Nancy Kerrigan.
And the movie is kind of like her side of the story, which is very different from what the tabloid side of the story is.
And it's just hilarious.
It's a great portrayal.
Everyone should go see it.
It's an incredible movie.
It shows you how much the media lies about things.
And the fact, and honestly, just the fact that Tanya Harding did not participate in this plot to attack Nancy Kerrigan.
Now, did she kind of cover up what happened afterwards?
Yeah, sure, right.
And she got in trouble for that, but she wasn't actually part of it, even though history constantly blames her for this.
And I think that Margot Robbie did a fantastic job.
And the reason that this matters so much, Charlie, for a political perspective, as well as just sort of where we are in the culture, right?
Is because Barbie goes on to be this incredible just box office juggernaut, something like $1.3, $1.4 billion, probably even more than that.
You know, easily defeated everything at the box office in 2023, certainly in terms of aggregate dollars.
Sound of Freedom, I think, is number one in terms of profitability because the ratio of how cheaply that was made.
It was either that or the new Godzilla movie, which is also made really, really cheaply, but went on to be a huge success.
The reason it matters so much is like goes back to what I was saying before that this was birth of the nation for women.
That these feminists, Charlie, and the fact that, look, I think most people, most girls who went to see the Barbie movie aren't coming out and actually like listening to it.
But there's a scene in there, and it's not even a scene, it's a whole plot where, in order to basically win over the film, you would think in a movie like this, like Ken versus Barbie, people would have said, you know, I think the classic movie plot would be, well, women and men need each other, right?
Ken needs Barbie, Barbie needs Ken, and that kind of would have been the end of the movie.
But that's not the end of this movie.
The end of this movie is that Barbie is superior to Ken and that women are superior to men and that women are not allowed to be held accountable.
Women are not allowed to be subject to objective standards of anything because women, of course, the main thing they want is to be the center of attention and have everyone talking about them.
And if everyone is not, then obviously it is because of sexism and it's because of misogyny.
That is quite literally, quite literally the message of this film.
And so for the response from the Academy to not give it the best actress nomination just flies in the face of all of the political and the feminist equity that has been built up in this, which is similar, by the way, to the Taylor Swift stuff that we've seen going on as well.
And the left, of course, is running around already making ads depicting girls dressed as Barbie, listening to Taylor Swift music and then going to vote for Democrats.
So there's so much equity that the Democrats have put into this branding.
And then they just straight up.
Jack, I got to tell you, I'm so unbelievably impressed by how long you talked about Barbie.
I just, that's a nonsense.
I got to be honest.
People said, interrupt them.
I said, I'm just enjoying it.
I just am enjoying it.
So, Jack, I just got to be honest, the chat hates the topic.
That's okay.
I thought it was great.
I keep an open mind.
Well, that's okay.
You know, some of us are trying to find out what's actually going on in America, the billions of dollars that are being spent.
No, Jack, I'm defending you.
Supreme Court Border Ruling00:15:44
You don't have to be aware of that.
You know, I have chat with you.
It's like, you know, no, no, it's so not, it's just a movie.
Guys, like, if you're, you're stupid if you think it's just a movie.
Like, honestly, this is one of the most high-level Democrat operations that's been going on for a long time in our country.
If you want to know why DEI, if you want to know why all of these political correctness stuff is being done, pushed to the highest level, it's because people get their understanding of the world from Hollywood movies.
And if you don't understand the influence they have on our society, then like maybe stop watching the show because this is made for Spark.
I think it's fair.
And look, I kept an open mind.
I don't, I will say that Marjo Robbie, she's Australian, right?
I think it's Marjot.
She did a good job on Wolf of Wall Street.
I thought she was good.
Wolf of Wall Street's great.
That's a great film.
Jack, thank you.
Let's get on to the Texas topic here.
Blake, what is the latest?
There seems to be a big cascading effect on Texas.
Well, there's kind of two perspectives.
You could either take the perspective that Texas is a brewing constitutional crisis and that's a good thing.
Or you could take the perspective that Texas is actually a non-crisis and that's also a good thing.
Shows savvy.
So big story this week, other than New Hampshire, is Texas has been fighting over whether they should allow 3 million people into the United States every year in an endless flood tide of humanity until they inundate the entire country, or they could not allow that to happen.
And in a sort of strange reversal, the United States government, which is supposed to like, you know, the executive branch is tasked with enforcing the laws of the United States.
Hence, executive comes from execute, you know, carry out.
They're taking the perspective that we should not execute these laws and Texas should be flooded.
So they sue, they, Texas started to put up barbed wire, razor wire, because the federal government won't do it.
And the federal government sued to make sure that the invasion would continue.
Our glorious, you know, six justice majority Supreme Court for conservatives agreed with that, that they can take down the razor wire.
And so Texas has announced they're going to just keep putting up more razor wire.
And initially, it did seem that initially it seemed like they were going to do this stunt of opposing, defying the Supreme Court.
But if you look closer at the wording of what's going on, there's no Supreme Court to defy.
All the Supreme Court did is say that the Biden administration is allowed to take wire down.
They don't say anything about what Texas can do.
So Texas says we're going to just keep putting up wire.
And if we want to.
Yeah, I think we led on this, though, Blake.
And I will fully acknowledge on our show, we were upset with the Supreme Court decision.
And then as time went on, we saw what Abbott was doing.
And then we reread the decision.
We said, wait a second, hold on.
It says the federal government has the ability to come cut wire.
It doesn't say that Texas can't put wire.
Now, they could still argue this.
Obviously, if you're getting on the work he is here, it is possible the Biden administration will come in and say that, you know, it's an insurrection to put up razor wire and anyone involved in this has to go to prison for five to 500 years.
The decision was pretty narrow, though.
We say decision, yet it's really just like a, I don't even know.
I can't remember the technical term, but they didn't issue a ruling.
All that we got was there was an injunction placed on the federal government at the circuit court level.
And the Supreme Court says, we reverse that injunction.
By the way, these four justices, the good ones, say that they would not have reversed the injunction.
And that's all we have.
We just have one of those brief non-ruling orders.
And But yes, it does mean that there's not really a Supreme Court to defy because the Supreme Court, all they did was reverse an injunction.
And so the reason we, you know, people talk about a brewing civil war is Abbott issued a pretty strongly worded letter pointing out there is a federal government obligation in the Constitution to protect the states from invasion.
Texas has declared an invasion.
There are a lot of laws and for that matter, personnel who could be deployed to halt this invasion.
And instead, the federal government is directly facilitating the invasion and making sure that as many invaders as possible come in.
So it's the fact that he's publicly stating this and that several dozen GOP governors at this point have backed him up in saying this.
And the big question, of course, is what happens next?
Because we have Joaquin Castro, we have Beta O'Rourke.
They're saying, well, these guys are in defiance of the federal government.
So we need to federalize the National Guard of all of these states, like what we did during the Little Rock crisis 60 years ago, oh gosh, 70 years ago, and forcefully intervene here is what they're all demanding.
And it's sort of, it's so reckless.
You have this, especially on the far left of the Democrat Party, they're really loving the idea of like, let's stoke this crisis as much as possible on behalf of a massively unpopular and illegal flood invasion into the United States of the entire planet.
Yeah.
And the question is: will Biden send in federal officers, Border Patrol, DHS, to go cut the wire?
They have yet to do that.
And that could be an optical nuclear bomb, despite what the Supreme Court says.
It's almost like be my guest.
And I don't think Texas will get in the way, but I think Texas might put up more wire afterwards because that's where the murkiness comes in.
Now, the spirit of the decision, not the text of the decision, basically is like, hey, let the federal government determine border policy.
That's the spirit of it.
Well, it's one of those, I was telling you the other day that it's like we have this super hidden constitution, which has, you know, the zeroth amendment to the Constitution is whatever else that says thou shalt have open borders.
No, that is the prime directive of modern America.
Pretty much, because we've had these orders, like we've had in the past, Arizona had that law about 15 years ago to try to curb illegal immigrants in a variety of ways.
And you'd get these courts that swoop in and say, whoa, when just by passing a law to discourage illegal immigrants, you're imposing on the federal government's, like indirectly, you're getting in the federal government's obligation.
They're the ones who enforce immigration law.
But then we have all of these sanctuary cities which do enormously disruptive or like unhelpful things to sabotage the enforcement of immigration law.
And none of these federal courts ever step in and say, oh, well, you're directly undermining the federal government's ability to enforce its laws.
And the Supreme Court has not taken up these cases.
We've had circuit courts strike that down while also striking down.
It's no matter what, the courts always end up coming around to, oh, wow, what a weird coincidence.
It turns out you're not allowed to have a border because the federal government.
So, Tyler, I want to get you in on this.
Tyler was, you know, he didn't chirp in, get it.
Because chirp is a theme here on the Barbie thing, and that's fine.
Tyler, what are the politics of this?
Because, I mean, you've radicalized me on the border of the years.
You're seventh generation Arizona.
This is a winning issue.
It's becoming like the issue.
The grassroots are on fire, swing voters, independents.
Talk about the politics of this.
Yeah, I mean, I want to harken back to a law that was passed in Arizona that was very controversial at the time.
It was at the time, Arizona had a super majority of Republicans in the state senate, and they passed a law called SB 1070.
I don't know if you remember this.
It was the Support Our Law Enforcement and Safety Neighborhoods Act.
And this was the Arizona used to be amazing, man.
It was, oh, we were so good.
And Senator Russell Pierce, rest in peace, he passed away last year, was the author of it, was the prime sponsor.
And it was supported by a majority of the supermajority in the state legislature here.
And this is, it made it a crime, a misdemeanor crime for an illegal alien that gets caught here without any kind of paperwork whatsoever.
It was a crime.
It was there was financial crime.
There was they get thrown in jail and ultimately we would send them back to Mexico.
And that was basically aiding ICE with doing its job, right?
Because ICE wasn't doing its job at the time during the Obama administration.
The second piece to this was you could go to jail if you hired or aided and helped and harbored an illegal alien.
And what happened out of that, remember?
Is that time?
It was like Gang of Eight time.
Was that period?
Was that when Arpaio put all the illegals in pink underwear out into the desert?
So Joe Arpaio.
He just did that with criminals, I think.
I don't think Joe said Joe.
I'm laughing because it's just like, it's just crazy.
His country has changed.
It's changed so much.
It's like so much different.
Arizona used to be this like.
But yeah, Sheriff Joe was putting people out in the desert in pink underwear, but they were locking up illegal immigrants and illegal aliens and they were sending them back to Mexico, which today, which today, like if anybody read this today, they're like, wait, we had that law and the it got overturned.
It went to the Ninth Circuit, got overturned by Susan Bolton.
Yes.
And Susan Bolton went after it.
But they overturned the whole thing.
And the Obama administration, the DOJ during the Obama administration, went after Sheriff Joe for racial profiling, remember?
Because it was the stop and frisk, asking for people's papers.
And we saw that everywhere, right?
That was where like the dreamers came from and everything else.
But I bring this up because the time period that you're mentioning, and we're kind of laughing because it's like, oh my gosh.
What a country.
The party did not embrace it at that time.
Today, I think you would actually get vocal support from the party because the party and a majority of Americans, because people are going, look at what's happening.
It's not, it has nothing to do with Mexican immigrants.
It has everything to do with people coming jumping our border from all over across the world.
So Tyler, but help me understand the psychology because this is the border fight, whether we like it or not, is largely being driven by Chamber of Commerce people right now.
And I don't think they want it.
I just think that it's so popular.
It's such in demand and it's such a crisis.
I mean, Abbott's a nice person.
He's a chamber guy.
Let's be honest.
Totally.
He's a chamber.
He's better than Bush.
He is not a movement conservative, but he's acting like one.
How do you explain that?
It's kind of like the way that the NRA at times would manage gun laws, right?
So remember, we've been really, there's been times where conservatives have been really angry with the NRA because they've embraced a worse version of a gun law or a gun bill than what we could have.
And their argument is that they're embracing it in order to manage it.
And that's, I think that's what you're seeing with like a Governor Abbott.
Like we saw in the last few days of Doug Ducey's administration, he was like sticking these big metal containers across the board that they ended up, we spent the money on it and they ripped it right out when Katie Hobbs got in there.
But they did this in Texas too, in Abbott.
And this is a lot of like illegal, anti-legal immigration cosplay that we see because it's popular, right?
Like Governor Abbott in the entire time that he served has not really prioritized border.
No, it's been patty cake.
Yeah.
And Ducey did this.
Ducey ignored it the entire time.
And now all of a sudden it gets popular.
I think they're managing this because it's popular and they know that, you know, like the SB 1070s and things like that, real conservatives will get in and they're going to start to demand things like this.
And then what are they going to do?
So, so Jack, I want to get you in on this.
You and I, Jack, are on a group chat with somebody we really respect.
Please don't say the name, okay?
But he's someone we respect.
He comes on our shows.
He speaks at our events, and he's very worried that what's happening in Texas is going to spark a civil war.
And we debated this in the chat.
Jack, can you just strongman that argument and why you think it's wrong?
Well, so there's a couple pieces of it, right?
And so we do need to talk about the wider situation of what's going on.
So we have Abbott there, obviously saying, you know, he's not going to back down the Biden administration's pressure, the Supreme Court ruling.
I think a lot of people have taken this out of context and they're saying that the Supreme Court told Texas to take down all the razor wire or that the Biden administration was going to take down all the razor wire.
That's not actually true.
And Blake went over that earlier.
But of course, you have all these other states saying that they're going to support Greg Abbott in his fight.
And then, of course, President Trump comes in completely over the top with his truth social post.
We had just gotten done talking to Caroline Levitt on Human Events Daily this afternoon, and she had told us that a big truth post was coming out that Trump was going to come out for Greg Abbott.
So we had a little bit of advance notice on it.
But then Trump comes in and says, I order all, not order, I welcome or encourage, I think he said, all willing states to send their guardsmen to the border and begin the deportations now.
He said, just straight up go down and start deporting them, removing them immediately.
Now, we have yet to see if anyone's going to take up Trump on that on that call, but it's certainly more forceful than I think anything anyone has said, at least in any of these positions.
The danger, Charlie, is that some people are taking this and actually calling, going online or going on forums, and they're trying to call for mass, you know, mass attacks on government facilities or mass disobedience, mass civil disobedience.
People talking, oh, we need to go kinetic action.
We need to act like Antifa.
We need to act like BLM.
And unfortunately, of course, we are not the BLM people, right?
We are not, our side is not going to get treated like them.
And Seattle, the city of Seattle just agreed to a $10 million deal to pay the activists, as they call them, the members of Antifa and BLM who were burning down Seattle and set up Chaz in 2020, $10 million because of the police tactics that were used during Chaz.
That's how it happens to when the left gets activated and does direct action.
When the right talks about it, guess what happens?
You get put on a watch list.
You get put on the no-fly list.
You get sent to the gulags down with the J-sexers.
So this is a huge danger here is if the Biden administration is able to find people or just get people to agitate enough so that they start calling for this kind of civil war type activity, the feds are going to swoop in.
And now suddenly this conversation where we're winning on the optics of this right now, very much support Greg Abbott, make sure it's done under the color of law, the invasion clause of the Constitution, that's all perfect.
But the minute people start going, oh, patriots need to activate and there's like some people are holding rallies and doing truck, there's like a truck convoy that's going through.
That's the exact same kind of thing that the feds are going to infiltrate and they're going to use this to go after you.
They're going to go after your bank account.
They're going to go after your social media accounts.
They're going to go after your personal freedom.
They're going to use it to censor the internet more.
And oh, by the way, this validates their entire central thesis of why Joe Biden is running to say we need to stop MAGA extremism.
Guess what?
He's going to make you the MAGA extremist.
He's going to make you the insurrectionist or God forbid.
And we'll just say it because we know they've tried to do this already.
Let's say some illegal immigrant gets shot or gets killed or as we saw last week, drowns, and then they blame it on Greg Abbott.
say, this is your fault, you white male Christian governor.
Just you did this and they're going to turn them that guy into the next George Floyd.
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Yeah.
So they want Jorge Floyd is what they want, right?
So they want to try to have, they want to try to have a, you know, young man, you know, that is trying to come into the country, you know, five or six years old, get drowning.
And they say, oh my goodness, look at this.
And then they try to make it go viral.
And it's because of the open borders.
They just have all these professional.
photographers with HD cameras.
There was a thing last summer that was like this in the New York Post.
I'd like this mother and child are crawling through razor wire on the border.
And thank goodness there was this professional reporter with an HD camera right there to photograph the entire thing the whole time.
It was so weird.
They do this stuff.
It's sick.
It's disease what these people do.
Yeah.
And so just I want to be very clear though that they are the ones.
And I want to be, if any of you guys, I got an email here from somebody and I thought it was a Fed and they said, hey, Charlie, why don't we have a caravan down to the border with our weapons?
I just responded to Fed.
With our weapons?
No, I just responded.
They actually said, yeah, I said, I responded, Fed.
Hey, guys, we got to go in there.
And I said, stop Fed posting.
Okay.
I just, this is.
Hey, we need to break a window.
Don't take the Fed bait, folks.
Our problems are in there.
Tomorrow, we need to go into Mexico.
We're going to go and we're going to bring Jorge and bring Juan and bring Hector with us enough.
Okay.
Let's remember when there is an issue that is not going in their direction in election years, they need a psyop.
George Floyd was a psyop.
And even Blake will agree.
I'm not saying that the actual incident was, but the all-in platforming and overemphasis on that incident, which, by the way, there's a lot more to that incident than people would ever.
Oh my gosh.
A lot more.
In fact, it's more and more clear that George Floyd was not murdered and he was either drug overdosed or there was something else regarding it, right?
Around that.
Derek Chauvin did nothing?
Yes.
Well, are you seeing this?
So on Wikipedia right now, Stillboneless is watching and sent this in.
If you go to the Wikipedia article for, they call it the standoff at Eagle Pass.
You guys got to pull this up.
The standoff at Eagle Pass, they're already describing it on Wikipedia, left-wing platform, as if it's some kind of battle.
They're listing the governors on one side.
They're listing Biden on the other.
And it already says casualties and losses, three migrants drowned.
This is on the official Wikipedia page right now, already referring to this as essentially some kind of skirmish.
And they're saying there's already been three deaths of migrants.
So look at that.
In addition, I just want everyone to know this, okay?
That they're losing on the border.
And so they're trying to create an op.
Now, what does that mean?
It could either be feds or it could be Fed adjacent people.
It could be left-wingers masquerading as conservatives who are going to try to make you do something uncharacteristic.
Like, oh, go get your weapons and go down to the border.
Don't do that.
Okay.
The proper way to do this is to follow the law, to bring down the temperature.
The solution is not all of a sudden you get your pickup truck with an AR-15.
You take this into your own hands.
Okay.
And to be clear, Texas National Guard denies the story.
And let me tell you what the cartel does.
This is a true story.
And I heard this from two separate Border Patrol agents.
The cartel will throw a three-year-old in the river.
And do you know what Texas National Guard and Border Patrol does?
They go out of their way.
They mobilize everyone to go save the three-year-old in the river that's drowning.
Do you know what that does?
It creates a diversionary effect.
And then the gotaways, hundreds of yards away, scatter into the country.
That's what's happening on the border.
The cartel is throwing kids into the Rio Grande River on a daily basis.
And we don't even, those are the gotaways that don't get Expedia flights to Chicago.
Are the real bad old bad guys?
And I mean, Blake, what I what I think is important, the layers to the border story is so horrific.
The more the American people learn about this, the more just their stomach just, you know, the pit in their stomach worsens.
What I think, even accepting that, what really messes, or I don't want to say mess, what I find most appalling.
The cartels are super awful and they do tons of terrible things.
But what I think people really can't comprehend, they can comprehend cartels, smuggling, doing all of that bad stuff.
What people can't get their heads around is how much fake crap is built into our supposed immigration system in order to ensure the end result of de facto open borders.
What I think stands out the most about that is the complete legal fiction that we have around the idea of like these, you know, their day in court, these immigration hearings.
So the system we have right now, like, why are they getting released in?
Well, they arrive and they're given a script.
All of them are trained in this by NGOs who go to Mexico to help them with this, like legal, you know, legal advisors.
They have lawyers who advise them.
And these lawyers tell them, well, you're more likely to get an asylum hearing if you have, you know, one of these 10 things that you can claim.
So claim that you are fleeing political persecution.
Claim that you're LGBTQIA who wrote this criteria.
I'm not saying it's a literal list.
Is it international humanitarian stuff or is this American law?
I think Congress ever vote on this stuff?
It's a lot of its bureaucratic production.
We got to get rid of all this.
We're allowed to have.
If we win in November, Trump's got to rewrite all this stuff.
Yeah, like we're allowed to have, you know, we have a process for giving people asylum and the government has been creating this process.
So what they do is, you know, if you have any of these following things that anyone can just make up, you claim you're seeking asylum and then they're like, well, we have to adjudicate this.
So here's your, you know, we'll give you this and then we're going to give you an immigration hearing date later.
And, you know, you can just come into the country and, you know, we have to let you work and support yourself while you wait for your asylum hearing.
And the average wait for an asylum hearing in many jurisdictions is like minimum three years.
Some people are getting dates five, even 10 years in the future.
That is, you have been allowed into America amnesty.
Because if you don't even show up at that hearing, what happens?
Nothing right now.
Yeah, they don't call ICE and say go get Jorge Ramsay.
They don't call ICE on anyone.
As Biden said, he only wants ICE to go after people who are felons.
And by the way, drunk driving is not a felony, as he said, even though it kills thousands of people a year.
But, you know, who cares about a crime that is disproportionately committed by illegal immigrants, by the way?
This is why they hated SB 1070, right?
Because this was the thing.
If the local law enforcement agencies are emboldened or empowered to basically be able to round up illegals and bring them back to the border and then give them like to the front, because they were just dropping them off at ICE and saying, okay, here you go.
And then ICE was like, in the Obama administration at this time, they were like, oh my gosh, now what do we have to do?
But this is the point is anything that gets passed in any state, these deep red states have every ability and every right to pass laws so that when that happens, they can pick them up off the street and they just will refuse to do it because of the jurisprudence.
It's so evil what they do.
Because think about how much this is the opposite of things the left cares about.
So for example, what we talked about last week, civil rights law.
Civil rights law works through distributed decentralized enforcement.
Anyone can sue you for supposedly violating a federal civil rights law.
But even if they don't, the courts can just do this and impose a huge penalty on you.
And you never actually need the police involved at all.
We don't need a police agency to enforce civil rights laws.
Whereas with immigration, imagine if we just had a system where, oh, anyone who has been harmed by you assisting illegal.
So, for example, any private citizen should be able to sue a company that employs illegal immigrants for just the general harm of you employ illegal immigrants, you're not employing Americans.
You should be sued for that.
And by the way, any red state, I believe, could pass this.
I don't think federal governments have barred this.
And you could easily make it so any private actor could essentially enforce immigration law.
And if we cared about it, local police and state police would be both allowed and incentivized to locate illegal immigrants and have them brought in to be deported.
That's what we would do if we cared about our laws.
Instead, we deliberately have set up a system that is intentionally confusing, inefficient, and fraudulent to get the maximum number of illegals here for what is essentially like a treasonous enabling of a foreign incursion in the US.
That is the prime directive.
Bring bring in as many foreigners as quickly as possible, period.
Totally.
Europe is a good example of this too.
Oh, I'll let Jacko.
No, I was going to say the word you use right there.
I mean, when you have an invasion of the country, which is something that obviously early on, the founders were very worried about this because the United States was surrounded by multiple empires.
The French Empire was right there.
The Spanish Empire was just to the south.
The British Empire was still kind of, you know, was to the north in Canada.
And so this idea of empires coming and invading the states was very real.
And also the idea of transnational organization.
There were smugglers back in those days, transnational organizations.
So the cartels of today are just part of a long line.
I mean, these things existed, right?
Criminals existed, obviously, back at the time of the founding as well.
These aren't new institutions.
You know, just because we have different words for them doesn't mean that the Constitution doesn't apply to these cases.
And these were obvious worries at the time of the founding because of the weak, relatively weak nature of the country.
And so this idea that the states don't have the right to self-defense, that they don't have the right to prevent invasion.
And just in the sense that any president, and you got to, Tanya Tay and I were having dinner right before this.
I usually, you know, I'll go home and then come back to the studio for this.
And she goes, how can a government allow something like this?
How could any government just allow this and then fight someone who was like a local person who was trying to stop it?
It's the opposite of what a government is supposed to be doing.
And the word for that actually is treason.
It's literal treason.
There isn't any other word for what if there's an invasion of your country and you're the side of the invaders, you're obviously committing treason.
Yes.
And Andrew makes a great point.
In the 1800s, if Texas got invaded, it could take 30 days minimum, maybe 90 days for news to get all the way back to Washington, D.C. and then back to declare yourself your own sovereignty.
States needed to be empowered to repel an invasion.
And by every possible criteria, what is happening on the southern border is an invasion.
And something that, and I told this to Speaker Johnson over the weekend, we had a very spirited conversation and we'll see what happens.
I don't know if it's going to make any impact or not.
But I told him, I said, one of the things that we're not doing a good enough job of is we are not talking about how this is a sophisticated, strategic, planned out operation.
This is not just a bunch of, you know, the people think when people say, well, it's chaos on the border.
Well, sort of.
It's actually not.
This is like with fake.
It's like kabuki theater.
It's fake chaos.
Yes, it is.
The chaos is that Biden can't get them in quick enough.
And so what people must understand, we talked about this on the show, and Todd Bensman, to his credit, said this on Steve Bannon's program.
He said that Biden really hated the images under the underpass.
Remember that where there was like 5,000 people?
So Biden personally got upset about that.
So did Kareem Jean-Pierre.
So they said, hey, listen, the problem is not that they're all coming.
The problem is that people see them in these masses.
And then Border Patrol and DHS said, well, let me, you know, President Biden or whoever is calling Ron Klain, let me tell you why these are there.
It's because we're doing DNA testing and we run them through a background check and call their country of origin and say, hey, you know, I got this guy, Mohammed, you know, Saloon.
from Kazakhstan and the Kazakhstani embassy like, oh, yo, you have that guy?
He murdered six people a year ago.
Don't let him in.
And then, so that's what's creating the lit, the line, because they say, wait here when I figure out who you are.
And they don't do that at all anymore because Biden doesn't want the line.
Because and think about, because it comes.
We're talking about 10,000 people a day cross the border.
Think about how many things have 10,000 people with no big deal.
TSA lines at Houston or whatever.
I'm not even saying you should let them into the country.
I'm saying that if you were to do it, then like there's even a like there are individual like metro stations in New York that handle 10,000 people an hour.
I just want people to understand that not only do we have open borders, the way they're doing open borders is so treasonous.
It's so cruel.
And I don't think we're making that argument good enough.
So the cartel is piping these people in.
They're not even doing DNA tests.
So there's some guy that comes up and he's like, yeah, this is my daughter and she's 12 years old.
And they don't even do in 90 seconds.
In 90 seconds, you can go swab, swab, is there similar DNA?
90 seconds.
Charlie, there are non-traditional families now and they're coming to the border to seek asylum from countries that won't accept them.
Yeah, non-traditional, such as like sex slaves and kidnapping.
That's just a different way of life, Charlie.
No.
You know, the Biden administration stopped the DNA testing.
That's what I'm saying, though, because of the line.
Think about that.
They stopped.
There is a modern North American slave trade occurring on the southern border.
And we're lectured about slavery all the time.
And a single thing, it doesn't stop it, but it's just worse than a significant.
What?
I think it's even worse than that because don't forget Sound of Freedom, man.
There is a scene in there.
So keep in mind, Sound of Freedom was made in the midst of the Trump administration.
So the only scene where you see the border is they're sort of like driving across.
And this is a child sex trafficking organization.
Now, the child sex traffickers don't need to worry about that because that's where they got caught.
Of course, they just send and they're doing these things like you just mentioned.
They'll throw someone in the river.
They'll bring someone up across the border in other ways.
They don't have to worry about the DNA testing.
So the Trump administration had put all of these policies in place to stop the child sex traffickers.
But now the child sex traffickers are having an absolute bonanza because not only do they get the kids up and then get to sell them, they can just rape them on the way while they're going across as well.
So when you're seeing these children come across, you have to understand, particularly little girls, sometimes little boys as well, though.
And this is obviously what everybody remembers President Trump's first interview when he was running for office all the way back in 2015 was with Don Lemon specifically talking about this issue about women and young girls being raped while they were being brought across the border.
And Don Lemon's like, oh, well, those are women or, you know, they're just victims.
You can't say that.
You got to get that traffickers.
One of the greatest clips in Trump's history.
And somebody's doing the raping.
Somebody is doing the raping.
Somebody's doing the raping.
And so, yes, there are rapists that are on the border that are exploiting women and these policies.
I want to just close this point, though, to educate the audience on this because it's super wonky.
So that for the first portion of the Biden administration's term, they were still running the border somewhat through Trump protocol, not totally, largely without knowing it because they're really...
Sometimes under court order.
Yes.
And they're also just lazy, right?
And so they just didn't know it.
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And so all of a sudden, all these crowds, because they say, okay, the borders are open, these crowds, because they did get rid of Remain in Mexico.
They got rid of the pandemic stuff.
They got rid of all of it.
And so remember that Bill Melusian thing that went so viral.
It was every network and they said, look at this underpass.
And then the Biden administration said, let them all in as quickly as possible.
And so we have no idea who they are.
We don't know where they go.
They're on the interior of the country.
Blake, you were going to make a point.
Well, so we've focused a lot on obviously all the duplicity, treachery, treason, if you want to say that at the border.
I agree with what they're doing.
But remember what prompted this?
You know, our title here is Civil War, Texas style.
We're having this showdown at the border.
So I think we should explore the topic of, okay, if this is a showdown that's going forward, what should conservatives, or really, what should people who believe in America being a country, what should we do?
How do we tactically approach this?
Because we were saying, you know, do you dare them to have the bad visual?
I kind of want to just make an analogy.
So the United States Civil War, it opens with that crisis over Fort Sumter where the South shells Fort Sumter.
And what's not well known is there's this elaborate political game that goes into Fort Sumter before it happens because Fort Sumter is a union fort in southern territory.
The South is saying, get out, we've seceded.
Lincoln says, I'm not going to get out, but how do you do that?
Well, Lincoln goes into this crisis and he's absolutely can't be the one who shoots first.
We're not going to be the ones who shoot first.
They have to be the ones who shoot first.
And he knows this.
He's like, these guys are southerners.
They've got this kind of cavalier culture, this honor culture.
They won't be able to handle this and they'll do something stupid.
And so what he announces is, I'm going to send food to Fort Sumter.
And he just, he kind of provokes Jeff Davis or the locals in Charleston to shoot at Fort Sumter.
And then he's able to say they shot first.
I just recite this not to talk about that civil war, but the idea of in any of these political showdown crises, there's sort of this game of escalation.
And how do you make sure the crisis keeps going without you like losing it, but without you going too far?
So we have to think, what do we want Abbott?
What do we want congressional Republicans to do so that as far as this political crisis goes, we achieve what we want of either making them change the policy at the border or making sure that if they don't, that the public is on our side and this produces an election result, which we can then use to fix the border.
So the main thing that you don't want this, I was just going to say, the main thing you don't want this to become is, like we were just saying, you don't want this to escalate into a civil war.
You don't want this to escalate in something.
You do want those optics.
You want the optics of the Biden administration trying to send people down to open our border.
You want the optics of people that are stuck on one side and can't get across, right?
These are the optics that are very damaging for the Biden administration.
But if this becomes something else, if this becomes something that's larger and gets away from the talking about the invasion and the fact that there is an invasion and fighting the invasion or showing that one guy is on the side of the invasion, then you get into a very, very big problem.
And so this is obviously, Charlie, this is what our mutual friend was talking about, that there's an acceleration play here where people want to just step on the gas pedal and like, you know, bomb Fort Sumter and just go for it.
And it's like, guys, no, no, no, no.
That's the exact opposite of what we want to be doing right now.
An idea we had a few days ago that you stated on the show.
I said it to him on the phone.
Yeah, well, we should say it here so people will pressure him.
He was receptive, but so this was, we're talking about Speaker of the House, Johnson.
And the idea is we were saying, guys, if we're going to have a shutdown, which they chose not to have a shutdown, the communication should be the border thing is a huge existential crisis for America that the Biden administration is deliberately ignoring.
So what you told Johnson was, literally go to the border, take as many Republicans as will go with you and set up shop on the border, set up a tent, sleeping bags, and say, this is where the crisis is.
Come here to negotiate with me.
Yes.
And by the way, have like a big war tent.
You know how like in like wartime, they sign like little pins.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly.
Like, you know, in Game of Thrones, they always like sign the settlements, like the two clans, they meet in like a big tent.
You know, you know what I'm saying?
Like Genghis Congos or Alexander the Great.
You pitch like a big, you'd be like, this is where we'll negotiate, Chuck Huschumer.
You want to reopen the government?
You got to come down to Eagle Pass.
Yeah, just come to Eagle Pass.
This is where the crisis is.
And lay out, you know, every day you can still be like do viral, do TikTok videos if you need to.
Yes.
Where you're saying, this is what's happening on the border every day.
Do interviews with people, you know, journalists or border patrol people speaking in, or you could probably get actual border patrol.
You're with the government.
Describe what is happening, videotape what is happening, and then lay out, you know, this is what Republicans want to do, which is secure the border, do XYZ thing.
And this is what the Biden administration is doing right now.
This is why it's a crisis.
And they're complaining about shutting down the government.
At the border, they have already shut down the government and that they are refusing to do our laws.
And I said this on the phone, I'll say it again.
It is one of the great PR victories you're not taking.
The entire country is turning against the Democrats on the Biden, the border issue.
And you have an opportunity.
By the way, the media would fall for the trap because they would send all their crews down to the speaker.
Because when you shut down the government, they want to get comment.
They want to get comment.
They want to get comment, right?
And all of these reporters come out and you shut down the government.
You say, meet me in Eagle Pass.
I mean, that would be that it would be, imagine the shots.
Imagine the videos tape.
Every day, Speaker Johns could say, hey, I will reopen the government.
Let's just sit down and negotiate here in Eagle Pass.
And it's so perfect because as long as he's there, they can't spin the shutdown as really being about anything else, which they'll always do.
That's what's leaving these social security people.
Yeah.
Which is not true.
But, you know, and instead it would say, no, actually, and he has to, he has to gut it out.
He has to literally just sleep in the tent and you would be known as the speaker who went all in.
I mean, Tyler, with the base not just like, I mean, by the way, if Republicans want to fix their fundraising problem, he would raise like $10 million overnight.
And that's not why.
Sell RNC branded tent camping gear?
No, I mean, but all, I mean, seriously, I mean, we could send him my pillows.
But I think what we're getting at, though, is we are yearning, and this is why Trump is doing well.
We're yearning for a symbol of a fighter.
And this would be more than symbolic if we believe the border.
And by the way, Speaker Johnson, on my conversation with him, acknowledged to his credit, there's nothing more important than the border.
And we'll see if he believes it, right?
But he said this, there's nothing more important than the border.
The border is the existential crisis.
It is the biggest humanitarian thing ever.
And I said, but I think you missed the opportunity here.
We shall see.
We shall see.
I want to tell you about one of our partners, Tyler, you have a thought here.
I was just going to say just one thing, too.
And this is really important, too, because it's not just the illegal immigration that's happening.
It's the legal migration.
The guest where I had a family member that had a violent crime committed against her at a way earlier part of a long time ago.
It was committed by someone that was an abuser of the migrant worker, the H-2A visa program.
Which no one wants to touch.
Which no one wants to touch.
And even, and again, I'm not going to be critical, super critical of the Trump administration.
It got started in the Reagan administration.
It ballooned in the Trump administration.
It went from 70,000 a year illegal to processed over 350,000 a year.
That's crazy.
And we're not even talking about that.
I mean, that's a surge that's crazy.
That's probably gone up even since 2022.
So, anyways, that's like there's so much to be handled.
I hope that that's one of the things Trump gets back in and realizes that H1B, H2B, J1, all that stuff.
The H2A.
But the H2A pieces, because those are over, those are 300,000 people a year that they're using that as a vehicle just to get into the country through quote-unquote legal means.
And you'll never see him again.
You'll never see him again.
They'll commit violent crimes.
You can never get him.
You can never get him back.
Tyler, I want you to prove just last week.
I mentioned this.
When you had COVID, did ivermectin not save your life?
Ivermectin, I would have for 12.
Blake is cringing.
No, this is true, Blake.
Your chat's going to hate you.
I would just hold that.
Odds of recovery were high, thankfully, because COVID is not dying.
It was a cause and effect.
I had 12 straight days.
If you had done my story, you would be one of the youngest people to have died of COVID for real.
This wasn't a weird thing.
I had 12 straight days.
I had 106-degree fever for two days.
I started taking medicine.
On Tylenol and Advil going back and forth, I was still at a 104 for 12 straight days.
I thought I was going to die, Blake.
And then Ivermectin arrived.
And then I arranged for it.
Yeah.
I got a drop of ivermectin and I took it.
Next day, I'm good.
I'm not kidding.
I was perfect.
I could walk up.
Like, I couldn't move.
I mentioned this because I'm telling you, ivermectin can work for you.
I saw it save Tyler's life.
There would be no ballot chasing.
There would be no turning point action.
I'll say is, I thought I was going to die.
There's no evidence ivermectin is harmful.
So if you want to take it, go for it.
I just like, I don't think it's next to a guy who was at 106.
I went, I didn't even know I was sick because my wife, we got COVID.
We tested.
We're like, ha ha ha, this is so funny.
I come inside.
I'm sorry.
I feel a little hot.
Took my temperature 106.2 degrees.
Literally, you die after like six days of it.
Okay, but if you want to get ivermectin for your family, how do you get this?
How do you get this?
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It is a nasty season out there.
And it's good to have the stuff in case you need it.
Yes.
And Tyler, will you attest further?
I thought I was going to have renal failure from all the Tylenol I was taking.
No, seriously, I could feel it.
And if I would have taken ivermectin, I think on day one, I probably would have saved my kidneys.
I'm probably going to die early because I'm going to have kidney failure because during ivermectin, which was probably destroys your kidneys.
Totally.
Yes.
All I'll say is I felt it.
It was like it hurt much.
I also had COVID.
I had a fever of 104, 104.5.
It was pretty high.
And I felt really terrible.
And several people said, Blake, you need to take ivermectin.
It's the miracle cure.
And I said, I'm good.
And you know what?
The next day, I also felt completely better.
So, you know, there's different outcomes to this.
But if people want to get it, like I said, there's no evidence it's harmful.
So if you want to take it, Andrew will have to be able to do that.
We were really worried about Tyler.
It was two weeks.
And all of a sudden, Tyler sent a message and he was like, Hey, I'm really worried I'm not good.
And I was like, okay, mobilize somebody.
I remember this.
It was not a change.
It's not a joke.
And I was like, this is really bad.
It was two weeks.
I remember Tyler said, quote, I'm going to declare war against China over this.
Remember?
Yeah.
He said, I'm invading China.
I was really weird that Tyler wouldn't be able to take part in our insurrection that we were, of course, planning.
Jack, this was after all of that.
Oh, this was after.
No, it was the other end.
The other ends.
Yeah.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Twc.health/slash CJ.
That is TWC.health slash CJ.
I have some on hand, guys.
I'm telling you right now.
If you're going to end up, you'll be.
And that was the thing.
I wasn't like short of breath or anything.
I just kept taking my, I took my temperature.
I didn't even know.
I bet a bunch of people, a lot of old people died because they just didn't even know anything was wrong with them.
And they had a crazy high temperature for multiple days and died.
And if it would have taken my Ivermectin, they probably wouldn't have been fine.
All right, let's get to the next topic here, which I will lead on because I think I've been the second.
You guys all played, except Andrew needed a week off.
Poor Andrew.
Andrew was the beginning of the clip.
Andrew had people that were texting.
I can't imagine.
I can't imagine Andrew's phone this week of people that had no idea he was involved in politics and he was getting emails and phone calls and text messages.
I thought you were a good person, Andrew.
You live in Santa Barbara.
Andrew, how dare you?
Our kids can't play together anymore.
And so just by, we'll get this.
So just so everyone knows, this program, Thought Crime, I think was the most talked about internet show of the week, right?
20 million views.
Andrew's face everywhere.
20 million.
By the way, not only that, we had the number one live stream in the country back on Tuesday evening for the New Hampshire primary.
And again, I didn't say anything controversial.
It really isn't because what I was saying was completely true.
However, it wasn't the whole point I was making.
If you listen carefully, the point I was making is that DEI creates unwholesome thoughts.
Not that I like those thoughts, not that I think everyone knew the intentionally act stupid.
But that was the point I was making is not a controversial one.
Is I said DEI actually makes us worse people.
And then it makes you look the world through a hyper-racialized lens and it makes you ask things you otherwise wouldn't ask.
Now, I got tons of backup and private encouragement and more than almost anything in a long time.
And it hasn't phased me.
And I just want to thank Jordan Peterson.
I want to thank Matt Walsh.
I want to thank Tim Poole.
I want to thank Candace Owens.
I won't forget it.
You guys unprompted came to my defense and there was a Allie B. Stuckey.
And viewers like you.
And viewers like you.
And so I will let's play the tape here, but I want to just be clear.
I don't even, we'll play all three tapes.
These Krassenstein brothers, who are these crooks?
I mean, I just, I don't understand.
They are liars.
So they're so those guys, like, and they just kind of play a role on Twitter that I think is necessary for, you know, or not necessary, but I guess there's a demand for, right?
That they play the left-wing trolls.
They lie.
Like, sort of, they, they just, they just, right, right, right.
But what I'm saying is no matter what happens, they will take the most extreme left-wing position and then they use that to try to go viral on Twitter or on X, whatever it is.
So it does, they don't even necessarily like personally believe any of the stuff.
They're just trying to get the left and the resistance to retweet them.
They used to sell books, like children's books about Robert Mueller and stuff with like his shirt off.
It was really weird.
All right, let's play cut 81, please.
So you guys piggybacked off of me because you knew what I was saying.
DEI Creates Worse People00:06:46
Because what I was saying is that DEI creates and fosters sinful, unwholesome thought patterns.
Because when they say we're going to hire people based on race and not competency, and so you start to just say, you know, what's going on here?
Blake, you're part of this.
This has gone so viral.
It's like I said, 22 million people have seen it on.
It's what I said at the end.
This is the reality the left has created that they craved.
They want a reality in which your skin color matters for getting hired, for getting jobs.
And so the natural reaction you have if you have a brain is, well, if they're getting hired based on race, then they're not getting hired based on ability.
And if they're preferring one race, that race will need less ability.
So if I have them in a job, they will have a higher likelihood of not being qualified for it.
And it's basically true that.
Right.
The inverse is also true then if you see a white male, like I was saying, you know, with a guy like the name of John Smith, you know, or, you know, you know, Andrew or Chad or Charlie or Blake or Tyler, right?
Then the only way that that person could have got there is through extreme merit.
Yeah.
And so I just, I want to make sure the point that I was making is everybody missed it, is that DEI creates worse people and it creates a generation or a country to think in a way that we otherwise would not have thought or that I never would have had that thought growing up.
But when you prioritize the hiring of race and your life is in suspension at 35,000 feet, you say, boy, I hope he's qualified.
I hope that's not a diversity hobby.
You can instantly imagine this.
If you just think, what did we have in the past, you know, hundreds of years ago in Europe?
Well, you had social classes of like nobility and commoners and such.
And you can read old stories where, oh, well, you know, this guy only got this job because he's from an elite family of nobles or whatever.
And that's why they're hired for this.
And oh, shocker, you know, if you're drawing from a pool that's smaller and gets preferential political treatment, they're less qualified for things.
And we're kind of just creating new noble classes today or a new caste system, if you want, where, yeah, if you give rank ordering to how good people are based on what their sex is, what their sexual orientation is, what their race is, and certain people who have the right combination of factors are vastly preferred for every job, every promotion, every application slot at a university.
Then, yeah, anyone who has a brain, which apparently excludes a lot of liberals, will notice what pattern that creates.
Yes.
And this will then flow into our next topic, which is the only thing you can do in response to this, because the logical reasoning is airtight and so obvious, is they just actually have to have a psychotic break.
Like they have, people were having mental breakdowns about this on Twitter, which is why we're very bluntly going to bully one specific person.
But I just want to finish with this, which is it hasn't phased me at all.
I have been blown away and encouraged by all of your support.
And honestly, just kind of the people of the conservative movement, some who I talk to, some who I don't talk to, completely unprompted, getting into the arena and defending me.
I'm told a lot of people attacked me as well.
I don't care about that.
That happens every single day.
But what I said was true.
And Matt Walsh did a whole video on it.
Candace Owens did a whole podcast on it.
Jordan Peterson set out a bunch of tweets on it, which was very encouraging.
It means a lot to me because what I said was 100% true.
And the essence, which everybody missed, is how DEI influences thought patterns and actually creates more racial resentment, not healing and unity.
With that, Tyler, do you have a final thought?
I was just going to say this.
After your stuff came out, I started just like researching articles and things like that.
There was an article that actually was released last year about, oh, it was how racial diversity in TV commercials backfires.
And it was on this topic, which is exactly the same line of the point you were making, which is, who better than to look at the commercial, the marketers, the marketing agencies who have backed away from DEI because they realize that it's not genuine.
So immediately after George Foy.
And they started.
Does it create more racism?
Is what they're saying?
The research that's put is that people actually resent the black actors that were included in the commercials that they were included in.
So you're exactly right.
The point that you're making is that you're actually increasing.
Everyone, all the left completely missed it, right?
They acted as if I'd never fly in a plane with a black pilot.
Well, this is a study that's done by libs that run, that are trying to make money off commercials.
They're like, oh, yeah, you get actual increased resentment from consumers when you just stick in a black guy in a commercial just because of DEI.
That's such a great point.
And, you know, people said, oh, my goodness, is the most racist thing I ever heard.
And I said, wait a second.
If all of a sudden the pilot said, you know, yeah, I had 30 years in the Air Force and I won all these awards.
I'd say, great, take me away.
Bombs away.
But however, we're seeing that they're hiring every time, right, Blake?
Every time affirmative action is implemented, what do we find?
You have to lower standards.
Every time.
If you didn't have to lower standards, you wouldn't be doing this.
Yes.
I have a good analogy.
One time I went and visited Europe and I hung out with a guy that was a senator to the Romanian parliament.
I was the American.
I was like the American in the group.
And they just brought me along because I was an American.
And so that was funny because I was an American just to have me in the group.
But the entire group resented me.
I was just like a token American friend that was there.
Nobody actually wanted to hang out with me.
Nobody talked to me.
Everybody looked at me in that party and went, oh, that guy's just here because he's like the token American comedic relief for this group.
It's the same way, like if you were hosting a party and you brought somebody in that was just there just because everyone not knowing that person would be like, why is this person here as part of this party?
It's forced.
It's force.
It's resentment.
And it's like the commercial thing is that people, people always will point that out.
And you're thinking about that more than the actual activity of life.
Yes, it creates more racial consciousness, which they want less of.
So whether it's like you're flying on a plane or you're going to a party, when you're watching a commercial, whatever it might be, if it's not genuine, then people are going to focus on that.
And if you're focusing on skin color because that you don't understand why that person's there, it's like out of the matrix, then you're going to have problems.
You're going to have intrinsic racism.
Blake, let's get to the final topic here.
Will Stancil Meltdown00:03:44
Well, so we have a kind of follow-up thing on this.
We mentioned a lot of people, we want to get into the aftermath of what we said here.
And what happened is, like I said, people online just totally lost their minds over this.
And when I say lost their minds, I mean like pointing, sputtering, crying, vomiting, pooping themselves, pulling the poop out of their pants, smearing it on their faces, screaming at the mirror.
One of the people doing this was a fellow Jack is also very familiar with.
His name is Will Stancil.
I'm unfamiliar and uninitiated.
Will Stancil, he's got about 70,000 Twitter followers.
He is a liberal.
You can put him on screen 162.
He's, you know, he's got what we might call an IPA bod.
I don't know that he's ever done, you know, a bench press or other is a low vitamin D level.
Yeah, he doesn't have, you know, not the best physical expression of the genes within his body.
And he's a kind of left-wing stats guy, except really far left people hate him because he does all these posts on Twitter about how Biden's economy is great.
Everyone loves it.
And I think he's pro-Israel.
And so he's, you know, made the really big Gaza nutty people mad.
But he also just came totally unglued about this entire stuff with DEI and pilots.
And one guy who was defending us was a guy we've had on the show, Steve Saylor.
He's written a lot about the pilot stuff.
And we also discussed this thing about drowning last week.
And he got in this running battle with everyone.
And, you know, Jack can elaborate on this, but he essentially just had for about two days.
He's been on Twitter all day.
Just it's probably still going.
It's still going.
He's tweeted probably like 100 plus times, I'd say.
And just saying things.
I actually finished, I think I finished our last episode saying, I think I said it very quickly, but I said, you know, shout out to Steve Saylor, the godfather of thought crime.
And, you know, we'd been discussing his drowning article.
And, you know, we, we sort of always talk about, you know, these various things and DEI and everything.
And so that, you know, I just kind of said, shout out to the godfather of thought crime.
Little did I know that, um, so Charlie, this guy, Will Stancil, basically had been commenting on the clip that went viral, loses his mind over it.
And then Saylor pops in.
I don't know if he watched our full episode and saw the shout out, but has just been pummeling these people with stats and facts and figures and studies and real-world empirical examples of all of the things that we've been talking about.
And it's, it's quite literally just, I mean, this, this guy, Will Stancil, I think his brains are going to start seeping out of his nostrils at some point here.
His head, his head might actually physically explode.
And so some of the stuff that's hilarious, like 158, he's like, let me be clear.
If you follow or respect Steve Saylor, unfollow me and block me.
He is an unreconstructed racist creep.
And I hope he's miserable every second of his worthless life.
Words do not exist to express the depths of my contempt for this oozing postule of a human being.
And that one, that's part of his obsession that Steve Saylor is this extremely miserable person, which I've met Steve Saylor.
Other people have met Steve Saylor.
You've met Steve Saylor.
He's essentially like your genial uncle, a genial dad kind of guy.
He likes golf.
He likes baseball.
He likes blogging about stuff on the internet.
He's a pretty cheerful dude.
He does not exude misery.
Whereas Will Stancil definitely exudes it.
Defining the Hick Lib00:02:42
And the reason we've had on the bottom of the screen here hick libs, it's because of this tweet, which he just perfectly represents this concept.
He tweeted this during the whole meltdown today.
I'm a southerner and grew up with a million of these dumb hicks.
They're racist.
And so to them, everything in the entire world can be explained by racism being entirely true.
And so what a hick lib is, and Jack can elaborate on this too, is there's a type of liberal who what they did is they grew up somewhere usually in middle America, could be the south, could be the Midwest, could, you know, could be a small city, small town.
They probably had loving parents.
They probably had functional public schools.
It was probably a pretty nice place to grow up.
But they thought everyone, they were pretty smart.
They're usually pretty bright.
This guy's got, as he told everyone, multiple postgraduate degrees.
They're pretty bright and they think everyone around them is too much of a simpleton.
They go to church.
They're like, they probably vote for Republicans.
They believe in God.
And they're not as worldly as them.
And they sort of signal that they belong in DC.
They belong in the elites by talking about how they grew up with these people.
And they're so disgusting.
And don't worry, I'm so much better than those people are.
I left that behind.
And then they go on Twitter and they have mental breakdowns over whether we should have affirmative action for pilots.
Yeah, so this is this is very close, closely aligned with the TV show Yellowstone.
There's a lot of memes that we've done about this.
I've been doing for about a year now.
A lot of people have done, Mr. Gribb has done this one of these as well.
That guy, Oliver Anthony, is a great example of this, someone who kind of has the, you know, they have the sort of like southern Midwestern Appalachia kind of aesthetics.
You know, they seem like the kind of person that would be like a Trump supporter, but then they start talking and you realize, oh, wait a minute, this guy's like a lefty.
What's going on here?
And yeah, Blake, it's exactly right.
You know, they usually have done some time in like one of the cities back east or they, you know, they feel like they should be among the rich men of Richmond.
And they just really bitter.
And so like the bitter southerner is actually the name of one of the hicclib publications out there.
That's just pretty much their banner publication.
And you see this a lot, by the way, in the country music world.
You see a lot of country music, huge names that'll come out.
People associated will, they'll be from like West Texas or they'll be from like Nashville.
And then they come up and they go on TV and they start espousing these extremely left-wing views, particularly on race, but also on economics and things like this.
And you're kind of wondering, like, wait a minute, everybody I know from that area is like, you know, as red as the day is long.
Victory on Many Fronts00:04:06
So what's what's the deal?
Versus me, we're like, I'm, I'm like, whatever the opposite of that is because I'm from, I'm like, I'm like from an East Coast urban area, but I, you know, I turned out like this.
So I'm like, I'm whatever the opposite of that is.
That's what I am.
And I definitely don't listen to like, I don't think any, we had that whole thing where none of us really listen to country music, except I think Andrew.
And, you know, we're, we're not your typical, I guess, like conservative podcast because of that.
But whatever, right?
You know, we, we've come to these ideas because we realized that the places that we're from, everything was breaking down and falling apart.
And so this guy, Will Stancil, very self-loathing, very much hates the people that he grew up around, very much hates their entire way of being and just thinks that he should be in control so that he can, you know, progress them into a world where they accept people who are different, where they accept immigrants, where they accept refugees from Africa and the third world and all of, you know, Blake, obviously, as you've talked about, this all fits together.
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Let's go around the horn, guys.
We're running out of time here.
I also got to be up at like 5 a.m. to do Megan Kelly tomorrow morning.
So I have to get home and do a bunch of stuff.
Jack, final thoughts.
We're winning.
And the main thing of this is no black pilling.
No freaking black pilling out there.
We are this close to victory on so many fronts.
And so if I see any black pillars out there, I am going to trap them in quicksand.
Moral of the story: don't let them boss you around.
Don't let them boss you around on the border.
Don't let them tell you, oh, you're speaker of the house.
You can't go do a camping trip to the border.
And don't let them tell you that you have to feel comfortable when you have like a pilot who doesn't seem entirely there.
Tyler, why don't we close out by previewing Monday?
Yeah, I mean, Monday, we've got 70 of the top 100 county chairs that matter in America coming together to Vegas to meet with the largest grassroots organizations in the country.
We've got Charlie Kirk, we got Donald Trump Jr., we've got Steve Bannon, we've got Jack Pesobic speaking, we've got Mike Lindell, we've got Scott Pressler.
We have the fight that we're bringing right to the doorstep of the RNC saying these are all the things that we should be doing at the Republican Party that you're not doing.
And, you know, I think I hope it takes notice.
I hope the grassroots is enlivened, they're enriched by it, and that we can actually go back to our home states and win.
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All right.
We'll get the other one next week.
Yeah, I got to do two hours with Megan and then three hours live on air.
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