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Dec. 21, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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The RFK Jr. Interview
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Okay, everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Robert Kennedy Jr. joins the program, and we have a great discussion.
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And we asked some really simple questions: who is he going to put on the Supreme Court?
What Supreme Court justice does he most admire?
And what does he think about immigration?
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We are here with Bobby Kennedy.
Welcome.
Thank you for having me, Charlie.
I've been texting you, I think, for about a year, trying to get you on the show.
And thank you for joining.
You're here in Arizona, the beginning of ballot access here in Arizona.
Is that right?
Yes, we have a rally in Phoenix today.
And so, and that is to get on the ballot as an independent.
Is that right?
Yeah, I think we need, I think we need 18,000 signatures in the state.
So, walk us through.
You were running as a Democrat.
That was irritating, frustrating, to say the least.
And then you decided now to run as independent.
Tell us about that.
It became clear that the Democratic Party was not going to let me win, even if I won.
So, for example, they changed, somebody did a compilation of about 60 rules that had been changed to make sure that nobody could win.
And I heard, although I don't know if this is true, that this week they actually made it, they were going to get rid of the Democratic Party announced that they don't need a primary in Florida.
So, and I don't know how true that is, but you can look it up.
But one thing they did do, I'll tell you one of the rules that they adopted was a rule that anybody who, any candidate who steps their foot into the state of New Hampshire, that any votes that they received in New Hampshire would not count.
And they had, they were working on the same rule for Iowa.
And then they had a proposed rule for Georgia that said that if you stepped into New Hampshire, no vote in Georgia would count for you.
And then they had stacked all of the superdelegates and this group of news, new group of superdelegates, they called PLIO's public and elected officials.
And so that even if you won sufficient delegates, they could still take it away from you.
And it became clear to me that I was not, even if I won, I was not going to get the nomination, even if I won the vote.
So I was the last person in my campaign to say, okay, it's time to leave the Democratic Party.
Dennis Kucinich was telling me that from the first month that he would know about.
So does it, I mean, I know you've spoken about this before, but you still see yourself as a Democrat.
Is that right?
Even though the Democrat Party is some form of, I mean, was it fair to say it's kind of almost closer to running like an oligarchy than a democracy, at least the Democrat Party?
Yeah, I would go along with that.
It's unrecognizable to me from what it was, you know, from what I grew up with.
Yeah, and so speaking of ballot access, and you've spoken out about this, the Colorado Supreme Court recently said Donald Trump's not allowed on the ballot because he allegedly, they say he engaged in insurrection or rebellion.
What is your reaction?
It's one of the craziest decisions that I've seen, and it's terrible.
I mean, it's just terrible that they, you know, people, half the country wants to vote for Donald Trump somewhere around half.
And, you know, if another country did that, like Pakistan or Iran or...
You would sanction them.
Well, yeah, well, we'd say that's not really a democracy.
But, you know, we're doing it now.
We're trying to, like, you know, I'm, listen, I'm not a huge fan of Donald Trump's.
That's why I'm running against him.
But I don't want to beat him in a fixed fight.
And what's going to happen if they do that, if they succeed, which I don't think they will.
The decision is crazy.
But, you know, then it's going to leave half the people angry.
And rightly so, they should be.
People should be able to vote for who they want to vote for.
And even if he was, you know, and by the way, it was no due process.
He wasn't convicted of insurrection.
Or even indicted, yeah.
Or indicted for it.
So, and there was no evidentiary hearing.
And this is a hugely consequential sanction, not with a consequence to him, but also to our whole country.
And you're going to do that without due process, without him being given the essential democratic function of being able to confront your accusers and all of these things that we guarantee people who are criminally charged.
And we're not going to give him that.
It's a crazy decision.
It was a split decision.
It was four to three.
Yeah, and it just, it certainly foments more radicalism in the country.
Of course.
I think what, you know, they're trying to hurt Donald Trump.
And this is going to, to me, this is going to help him because, you know, it's going to fortify people's belief that the system is rigged and it's rigged against them and that they're trying to, you know, they're trying to screw the little guy.
So just focusing on one thing you said, you said you're running against Trump.
Do you look at yourself as running equally against Trump and Biden?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What would you say are the chief objections to both?
If you were to say, since you're running against both, these are my objections to Trump.
These are my objections to Biden.
I mean, I think my biggest objection, Biden is, you know, I just don't think he is capable of governing the country.
He can't do an unscripted conversation or encounter with a voter.
Even the scripted ones are falling apart.
So I don't think, you know, I don't even know if there's a sort of a coherent governing philosophy that he has that I would object to.
I just think that there's a that there's a competency question at this point and that he needs to answer, which means he has to debate, which I don't think that they're capable of doing.
With President Trump, my objection to him is that I don't, you know, he had a chance.
And, you know, the big things that I object to, the biggest thing that I object to is the lockdowns.
He locked down 3.3 million businesses in this country with no due process, with no just compensation, with no scientific citation, with none of the the processes of democracy, like you know, notice and comment, rulemaking, an environmental impact statement, the things that you have to do to involve, you know, to involve the public in momentous decisions like that.
I don't know, violated the Constitution.
And then, and that shifted, that shifted $4 trillion north in wealth.
We created a billionaire a day during that 500-day, this new oligarchy of billionaires.
That was a zero-sum wealth.
It was just a shift in wealth upward from the beleaguered American middle class.
And then there was a number of other decisions he made during that crisis moment of American history when you really want a president who can stand up to his bureaucracy and to ask questions and to go into the weeds and to have, you know, to stick by his instincts.
He knew that hydroxychloroquine was going to work.
And yet he got rolled by his bureaucrats again.
And they ended up denying access to it to the American.
Yeah, so I think that's an interesting point.
By the way, I would tend to agree, as a Trump supporter, as you well know, I would say that the lockdowns are probably the best argument against the four years that I would consider of a big success.
I would also say appointing John Bolton to the head of the NSA.
Totally agree.
John Bolton should be deported from the country.
So I'm not a warmonger.
But I want to zero in.
Would you at least acknowledge that Trump had flares of instincts that were correct, ivermectin, or hydroxychloroquine?
And he also, he did leave it more to the states than I think people would probably recognize.
Is that fair to say?
Yeah, that's true.
But let me just let me say something.
And I don't, you know, you're very kind to have me on here because I know that you're a very strong supporter of President Trump's.
But during my uncle's administration, during President Kennedy's administration, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, there were, my uncle was reluctant and reluctant to invade Cuba.
And we now know that if he had invaded, there were 64 missile systems that were now, now we know that the warheads were fully activated.
And each one of those missile systems, the commander of the missile system, and this was insane from the Soviet point of view, had authority to launch if they felt endangered.
So they got to make the individual decisions.
So we would have had a nuclear exchange.
And there were 13 people on the ex-comp committee, which is the little committee of like Dean Adgison, Bob McNamara, all the top dogs, Louis Lemenser, the joint chiefs who were all in on the huddle.
My father lived at the White House for 13 days.
He didn't commute even to my house, which is 15-minute drive.
He lived on a cotton White House, and this committee was meeting all day long.
During the final vote, they started out with 11 people for invasion, and only two, my father and Bob McNaughton, are against it.
They ended the last vote they took, and this is not on the recordings, but I know this story that there was eight people who, my uncle had a vote, the final vote, and they voted eight to six for invasion.
My uncle said the sixes have it.
So all of his guys who were, you know, the senior officials, the senior CIA people were all telling him, you've got to go in.
And he was able to say to them, let me see the aerial photographs.
And then he asked them questions.
He said, are there those Cuban gun crews?
Are they Russian gun crews?
They said, we think they're Russian.
They're no.
He said, are they, if I kill Russians over there, hundreds of them, isn't Khrushchev going to have to come into Berlin and take Berlin?
And they said, we don't think he has the guts to do that.
So that's what their excuse was.
And my uncle said, okay, we're not going to do what you guys are telling me to do.
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So he was able to go deep into the issue and then stand up to his bureaucracy.
And I think that that was something that President Trump was not able to do.
He had very, very good instincts, as you say.
But I don't think he had the discipline to be able to actually sit down and do the research himself that would allow him to stand up to people who, you know, who are the authorities.
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So focusing on the Biden aspect of it, I agree.
He's senile.
And here you are doing, what, like 500 push-ups in a Twitter video or something?
And you're like yoked up and all that.
He can't even walk in a straight line.
But as someone who says you still are a Democrat, what would you say you are?
Well, I'm an independent.
Okay, fair enough.
But you were running in the Democrat primary, right?
So what would you agree with Biden on?
You know, I don't know.
I don't know.
I think he, you know, what I agreed with, the thing that made me a Democrat, Charlie, is the traditional Democratic platform, which I would sort of check all the boxes.
The Democrats were traditionally anti-war.
They were skeptical of the military-industrial complex, of the corporate control of our democracy.
They were pro-environment.
They were pro-women's rights and bodily autonomy.
They were skeptical of the pharmaceutical industry and the other big corporations.
So that's, you know, those are the boxes that I would check.
And I don't know how much of that, you know, I don't even know what President Biden believes in on those issues.
So One interesting thing for me to look as an outsider has been, you know, we're here in a border state, and right now there's 12 to 15,000 people coming in through the southern border.
As president, if you were president of the United States, what is your stance on it?
Would you call it an invasion?
Yeah, I would shut down the border and do it immediately, even if it took deploying the military at this point.
And what we need is, you know, we need asylum court judges.
There's a backlog on the asylum courts of seven years.
There's something like 4,000 cases.
And, you know, I have to check this figure, but it's something like 4,000 cases for every asylum court judge.
There's 3 million cases out there.
And we need asylum court judges on the border before people get in to adjudicate their cases before you, once they get in, if they have an asylum claim, you have to give them a hearing.
So we need to be able to adjudicate those at the border.
We can't be letting, I mean, this is a, we're letting the Mexican drug cartels dictate and control our immigration policy.
And there's been 7 million who've come across in the last three years.
As you point, and there's the legal immigration during that period was 3.1 million.
So there's double, the cartels have brought in double what legal immigration, the people who are waiting in line.
And we need to put an end to it and do it very quickly.
Just speaking as someone who would run more in circles I'm not in, do you think the Democrat Party is using immigration as a political strategy?
I can't believe it's a good political strategy for them.
You know, my impression, I try not to speculate about what motivates people.
But I hate to interrupt.
It makes me wonder, like, who would want this?
It's 20,000 people a day.
It's inexplicable.
Okay.
So what would you get?
What would be your best guess?
I don't know.
Because I don't even know how the decisions are made.
I don't know if it's Mayorkas who is making the call or, you know, what I saw when I was at the border.
So I'm just telling you what I have seen.
What I saw was a level of pettiness that was almost beyond description.
And I'll give you, I'll tell you, you know, my concrete example of that.
President Trump built, and I was against building the wall.
Are you still?
No.
Now I think it was absolutely important.
You don't need to build a wall 2,200 miles from San Diego to Brownsville, Texas.
The populated areas, you definitely need a physical barrier, and it's got to be a wall.
So when I went down there, there's about 20, I think 27 or more huge gaps in the wall.
Some of them are big, some of them are little.
Sitting in a pile there was tens of millions of dollars of construction material that was the missing parts of the wall.
And the day that President Biden came in, they not only removed the cameras, the video surveillance, the motion detectors, and the lights and the towers, which you could also see piled there where they'd been literally torn up out of the ground.
But they left all that construction material instead of finishing the wall, finishing those gaps.
They left the construction material sitting there.
The Border Patrol kept begging and pleading.
Nine border patrolmen, I was told by Chief Glam, Chris Glam, who was the chief of the Border Patrol, that nine border patrolmen had committed suicide in the last year or so because they're so demoralized about what's happening.
He's been pleading with Majorkas to come down and see what's happening.
So Moyorkas did come down, who's the head of DHS for people don't know.
He's in charge of protecting our borders.
Oh, it was happening.
It said, okay, I'm going to fix it.
I'm going to patch those places in the fence.
But he said, I don't want to use Trump's wall.
So we're going to order new material.
And so if you go down there to Yuma today, right, we're in Arizona.
You go down to Yuma.
Southwestern Arizona, yes.
You'll see parts of the wall that are Trump wall, and then these other parts, which are dark, kind of dark reddish color, and then the Biden wall, which looks kind of like a chain link fence.
It says Bienvenidos to America.
I'm kidding.
Exactly.
Well, there's also no foundation under it.
So you can go under it.
No, the whole thing's insane.
But anyway, the point I'm making is that they did this.
Maorgas needed different walls so that nobody would call it the Trump wall.
It could now be the Biden wall.
And that shows a level of pettiness that just dishonesty.
Yeah, I mean, because they've said forever walls are racist and all that.
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So you mentioned your uncle, JFK, who I really admire, by the way, and I think he was killed by the Intel agencies.
And in a different conversation, I'd love to chat with you about that.
But your other uncle, Ted Kennedy, was big on immigration, as you well know, and transformed the legal immigration system and took green cards over a million a year.
And I know this is a wonky question, but is there a set number of legal immigrants you think our country should take?
Are we taking too many right now?
I don't know.
I don't know the answer to that.
I mean, you know, I'd love to hear the arguments either way about.
Tell me this.
How many do you think?
Well, I'm not running for president.
I think we should have a moratorium, right?
Like a complete moratorium.
Well, of course, yeah.
So, and then what about with that harm businesses that like need workers?
It could harm multi-billion dollar, trillion-dollar tech companies.
Yeah.
But I think you don't think anybody else would be harmed by it.
Potentially, but I think that allowing yourself to digest the big meal of mass immigration that we've been having the last decade is probably not just important, it's critical.
But again, my position is just, you know, a talk show host.
I'm not running for president.
But I mean, let me ask you: like, do you look at Minnesota that's now basically become mini Mogadishu?
Like, would that does that bother you that we've allowed hundreds of thousands of Somalians who don't assimilate into our country into Minnesota?
Well, I would not say that the, you know, the racial issue is.
Well, it's not racial.
It's more cultural, right?
So I don't care if they're black or whatever.
They're Islamists.
So it's a religious issue for you.
It's cultural, right?
I mean, do you think Elon Omar has assimilated to the country well?
I don't know, Elon Omar.
I know that there's a lot of Muslims in this country that have assimilated and that are proud to be American who are not radicalized.
So I don't know.
Well, like, for example, does it bother you in Minneapolis the call to prayer is broadcast five times a day and that they've changed the flag of Minnesota to be basically identical to that of the Somali flag, literally the flag of Minnesota.
Yeah, I don't, you know, there's other things that bother me about this terribly.
And what bothers me is that there's 110,000 people on the sidewalks in New York who don't have papers and who are now being, you know, they sold this as a humanitarian solution.
And these are people who are being preyed upon by unscrupulous employers.
Of course I agree at that.
And they're staying on the, you know, they're living on the playing fields, which have now been converted to housing, so our kids aren't able to play sports.
If you're saying, you know, should we have a national limitation on allowing Muslims in this country, I would say that seems inconsistent with our, you know, our.
Well, again, I'm saying Somalians who, again, don't assimilate.
Again, I have some Muslim friends as well, but I'm asking you, because I know you're running for president, just, and you don't have an answer, it's fine.
Do you think that we should rethink the legal immigration system, chain migration?
I have a relative here.
Are there certain countries we should prioritize over others?
I think we should have an immigration system that serves America's national interests.
What does that look like?
It would be an immigration system that says, you know, what kind of jobs do we need in this country?
So business should dictate our immigration system.
Business.
But didn't you spend your whole career suing these businesses?
But not for immigration.
But like if the Koch brothers said they need 100,000 people, should we listen to them?
Well, I would love to hear their argument.
If they're saying they need 100,000 here or they have to ship their...
Why don't they hire Americans and like pay them better wages?
Isn't that a Democrat position?
Yeah.
And by the way, I spent 20 years working with Cesar Chavez.
And he was an immigration hawk.
He was an immigration hawk.
He wanted to end illegal immigration.
I mean, there are two issues that I really worked with.
One issue I worked on, which is pesticides, which just disproportionately harm Hispanic farm workers.
But his other biggest issue, and I was a ball bear in his funeral, his other biggest issue was ending immigration.
He wanted to, because of what it was doing to the American worker.
So, yeah, I mean, those are all issues that are critically important.
So, I want to hear from the business.
I can't answer you this question, Charlie, because I don't have an ideological position.
I'm not asking you.
I have a very, very practical position, which is what's good for America, but what's good for building the middle class?
What's good for increasing wages to workers in this country?
Respectfully, you say we're going to listen to business.
I'm going to listen to everybody.
Okay, but the voters that you're trying to win over are telling you no more immigrants.
Overwhelmingly, polls are saying we have too many people coming into the country, both legal and illegal.
So as president, if the voters say, hey, we want to shut off immigration, which by the way, many countries in the Western world are screaming that, right?
Holland, Germany is saying it, the ascendant political party there, they're saying no more mass migration, both legal and illegal.
As president, would you listen to the crimes, the cries of the people?
Of course I'm going to listen to the cries of the people.
Yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt.
Go ahead.
I think the issue, the people are alarmed by what's happening right now, and they should be.
I think today or yesterday, 14,000 people came across as the record.
And I'm alarmed by it.
I went down there and watched 300 people come across.
I interviewed half of them.
That's insane.
Yeah, it's insane.
And it's wrong.
And it's wrong from a lot of different points of view.
And I want an immigration policy, like I said, that makes that brings back America's middle class.
That serves the need.
Environmentalists like myself were normally, we're opposed to, we think that we should be able to have sustainable economies that don't require constant influx of new populations.
I just am open to all of these.
I wouldn't, you know.
And, you know, so like I say, I don't have any ideology on it.
I have a really practical approach, and I want to hear everybody's opinion.
I do.
Can I do it?
Yeah, we're running out of time.
I want to be respectful of your time.
Go ahead.
So one of the things as president, obviously, you get to appoint Supreme Court justices.
And the Supreme Court is more important than ever as a check and balance.
Which current or recent Supreme Court justice is closest to your ideas or what you would appoint?
I couldn't answer that.
I would say, you know, I'm going to appoint judges who reflect my values.
But what are those values?
Because President Trump has a list to his credit.
Here are the 65 people.
I mean, would it be more like Kagan or more like Clarence Thomas?
I don't know.
I wouldn't answer that.
But respectfully, you're running for president.
The voters, that's a huge issue for voters.
Especially when it comes to Second Amendment rights, abortion, please give it a question.
I mean, I can tell you what my important issues for me are free market capitalism, strong environmental protection, strong liberties, human rights, civil rights, bodily autonomy, and, you know, skepticism toward big business.
I share that.
And toward the, you know, the corporate control of our country and a hostility toward corruption.
So those are the issues.
I'm not going to tell you.
But who's your favorite Supreme Court justice ever?
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Ever.
Just one that you would say that you think did a good job.
Earl Warren.
Okay.
So the Warren Court that got rid of prayer in public schools.
Well, the Warren Court that gave, you know, I'm not going to like, this is why I don't want to pick a particular.
You have to, because voters vote on the Supreme Court.
Well, yeah, but I'm telling you what I would look for.
Fair enough.
I'm just a justice, but I'm not going to endorse every decision.
So if I, you know, I can see, you know, the trick here, which is a trick, yeah, which is I name a judge and you're going to pick a decision that, you know, I would not endorse.
That's why I'm telling you that, you know, I can tell you what I want, which is civil rights, liberties, free market capitalism, a strong environmental protection, and a hostility to corporate corruption and corporate control.
And it's not a trick.
You're running for president.
And you know I have respect for you.
Yeah, but it's a trick to say endorse every decision by this particular judge.
Fair enough.
I don't call it a trick.
I'm just trying to understand because these are questions voters have, right?
Trump had Trump to his credit.
I'm very open and transparent about what I want, but I'm not going to pick a judge and endorse every decision that they've ever made.
Okay, but fair enough.
So if you had judges lined up as president and one that supported affirmative action, would that be one that you would want?
It wouldn't disqualify them if everything else that that judge endorsed with things that reflected my values.
I would look at the whole package.
There could be people up there who believe in things that I don't believe in, but if they believe in...
So the big kahuna is abortion, obviously.
As someone who has a great record on medical freedom, and you know I know that.
I'm not BSing, meaning I believe that.
I do have to ask: when do you think life begins?
What do you mean by life?
Human life.
Life worthy of the protection of the government.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
When should the government come and protect life?
Well, my position is that we need to trust the women to make that choice because I don't trust government to make any choices well, particularly when it comes to bodily autonomy.
Now, I would say later on in the pregnancy, the government has a much larger claim to after the first trimester, philosophically, has a higher claim to protect that child when they're viable.
But, you know, I would leave it to the woman because I just don't think I don't trust the government.
And I've worked my entire life on medical autonomy and bodily autonomy and medical and freedom from the government telling us what we can and can't do with our bodies.
I'll say this about abortion.
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I think the amount of money that we, you know, 85% of the abortions in this country are with black women.
And if you look where the Planned Parenthood facilities are constructed, they're disproportionately in black neighborhoods.
And I think that, and it's mainly poor people who are getting abortions.
And what I would say is that nobody should have to get an abortion in this country because they're scared about their capacity to take care of that child.
That we ought to be doing everything we can to make sure that nobody makes that choice.
Nobody has to make that choice.
I think every abortion is a tragedy that the government, you know, that we should do everything we can as a society to make sure that they don't happen.
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To see clarity in that agreement, just pivoting off of the mention of the black community, I want to make sure your position is clear.
Do you support reparations for the black community?
I think reparations, race-based reparations, are unconstitutional under the Harvard decision.
So you would honor the recent affirmation, you mean the recent one in just the last eight, nine months?
Yeah.
I think they're clearly unconstitutional under that, if they're race-based.
And so you think that was the right, the correct decision?
Well, listen, you know, I have a program that is on our website for targeted community repair, but it's not race-based.
It's about rebuilding poor communities in these countries.
Some of the poorest communities in this country are farm communities and rural communities and rust belt communities that are as poor or more poor in Appalachian communities that are as poor or more poor than urban communities.
And I think we need to rebuild all of them.
So the concern that I hear from some people with your candidacy, and I want you to address this, is that you running might hurt Donald Trump's chances of becoming president, that you're doing this as a left-wing Democrat to kind of capitalize on some COVID frustration and some well-earned respect on medical freedom.
How would you respond to that?
I'm running to win.
I'm not running to hurt President Biden or President Trump.
I'm running and I'm not running in ways that are vituperative or vitriolic against them.
I don't engage in personal attacks or any of those against either of those candidates.
I respect both of them and the office that they held, but I don't think either of them did a great job as president, and I think I'll be a better president than them.
So the, and by the way, I deeply appreciate your commitment to free speech and coming on here to talk to, as you know, a vocal Trump supporter.
What's your pitch to a Trump supporter watching this or listening to this right now?
I think it's the pitch that I made before that, you know, I think President Trump had a right on the medical freedom issues.
I think he had a right on the war issues in his rhetoric.
But I don't think he executed well.
And if you want a president who's actually going to dismantle the, you know, this corporate capture that's going to dismantle the corrupt merger of state and corporate power, that's going to address problems with the Fed, the capture of that agency by...
You mean the Federal Reserve?
Yeah, by, you know, big banks, you know, with a policy that is designed to strip the American middle class of equity and shift wealth upward.
If you want a president who's going to actually address the problems of the CIA and who's going to reform that agency, which President Trump never even attempted to do.
And, you know, that agency now has been captured by the military contractors, the military industrial contract.
And the war machine.
And the war machine has functioned, which my uncle recognized.
My uncle is going to completely reorganize the CIA in his second term.
My father, when he ran, had a plan for reorganizing them.
And we need to do that.
We need to finally implement that plan.
And I don't think that those are things.
I don't think that President Trump is capable of getting into the weeds to do the kind of reforms that you need to do and to stand up to the bureaucracies in the process.
That is the pitch that I'd make.
If you want, you know, the America back, you know, the America I think we all envision.
I don't think that he's going to give it back to you.
And I will.
We don't agree on everything, but I appreciate the commitment to dialogue, Bobby.
And if there were more Democrats like you, America would be in a better spot.
Charlie, thank you so much.
Thank you.
Thanks for having somebody on that you disagree with on so many issues.
I always enjoy talking to you.
I'm thankful to you.
Thank you, Bob.
Thanks so much.
Thanks so much for listening.
Everybody, email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening.
God bless.
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