THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 11 — The Blexit Mugshot? Oliver Anthony, Hero or Disappointment? Worst Sequel Ever?
In this latest THOUGHTCRIME featuring Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer, and Andrew Kolvet, the gang explores important questions like: -How iconic will Donald Trump's mugshot be in a year, or ten years, or a thousand years? And will it boost him with black voters? -Is Oliver Anthony still the hero America needs, or a squishy moderate gigacuck? -Is Covid 2024 an even worse sequel than the second Black Panther movie?Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mugshot Criminalization of Trump00:14:53
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Okay, everybody, welcome to Thought Crimes.
Today we have Tyler Boyer.
Tyler, welcome.
Hey, what's up, Charlie?
Andrew Colvet.
Jack Pasobic, as always, co-chairing.
Somebody asked me, they said, Charlie, how do you best describe Thought Crimes?
I said, it's basically a group chat that became a podcast.
And Jack, how many group chats are we in together now?
I think at least 10.
At least 10 that are avowed.
There are several others of which we do not speak.
Of which we do not speak.
The lead we are going to talk about is the Trump mugshot.
Jack, are these people really that stupid that they needed to have a mugshot of the most photographed man in the last hundred years?
Well, Charlie, I mean, of course, that's a more existential question as to whether or not communists actually are people.
So, you know, speaking as a guy of Polish descent, you know, the jury's still out on that one.
But when it really comes down to it, of course, only Fannie Willis would have such a subroom temperature IQ that she would actually allow this powerful, energetic, nuclear WMD of mimetic warfare to be placed into Trump's hands.
I think it already goes without saying that this is the most viewed photo probably of the last 50 years.
This is the most iconic American photo since World War II.
Tyler.
Joseph Stalin used to make people disappear from pictures.
He didn't put them in pictures.
And there's a reason for that.
Yeah, do we have the fading Joseph Stalin picture, Ryan, of his comrades on the boat?
It's one of my favorite.
Have you ever seen that?
Yeah, no, no.
It's a pack of comrades, and it's just like the original.
Years go by.
But here's the reason.
So the Marxists are like rolling in their graves because they're like, you're doing this all wrong.
You're supposed to, you're not supposed to take pictures of them and circulate them.
You're supposed to make them disappear.
Exactly right.
So what is it then?
I mean, Andrew or Jack or Tyler, I mean, I think Joy Reed and the anti-white cabal at MSNBC, I think they showed us that this is just pure spectacle.
They hate him so much that they wanted to, do we have the Stalin picture, Ryan?
How quickly can we throw that up there?
We're throwing it up.
Yeah, exactly.
There it is.
Look, Stalin and his buddies.
Stalin with Tolstoy?
No, not Trotsky, not that yet.
Stalin with Trotsky?
Yeah, that's Tolstoy.
Trotsky.
Stalin with Tukhachevsky.
And then it's just Stalin.
You're supposed to make people vanish.
Yeah, not put them at the front.
Not turn them into martyrs.
Brodsky fled to Mexico.
Mexico City, baby.
He was assassinated by a Spanish.
No, an ice pick.
An ice pick.
Oh, that's right.
You're right.
Spanish assassin with an ice pick.
The Trotsky story is super interesting.
If you ever want to.
You're thinking of World War I with the bombing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, Trotsky, there's a great story.
Trotsky was in an American prison in New York and was released by the American government, got stopped in Halifax, Canada on the way on a CIA, then OSS operation to then put Trotsky and Lennon together to.
This is before the revolution.
This was, yeah, this was after the, what was the revolution?
The Red Revolution in 1907?
Because there was one that failed in the early 90s.
There were a couple of failed uprisings.
Yeah, and then this was before the successful 1905.
1905.
Red Revolution.
Communists are communists should be kicked out of a country, which they were.
Yes.
And then the West brought them back in with $6 million of gold of Lenin out of a prison on a train.
Yeah, the West helped them.
What's amazing?
I was like, oh, you guys are so smart.
Regime changes.
What could go wrong?
It was underwriting.
What could go wrong with regime change?
What could go wrong?
Underwritten by the Rockefellers, but that's a separate issue.
No, it's totally factual.
It's totally true.
As documented in a book, None Dare Call It a Conspiracy, which, if you don't want to sleep, read that before bed.
However, Andrew, what are these people thinking here?
You're the PR mind here.
Were they thinking?
Because they've now turned this into a symbol that really has the most, let's just say, the most unusual groups of people from internet memers to black rappers to just people in the middle that are now more sympathizing towards Donald Trump as a cultural figure, Andrew.
Yeah, I mean, I think the answer to that question, Charlie, is twofold.
One, I think they're just bloodthirsty.
I think that they have wanted this so much for so long.
I mean, there was that one clip that we played during the show, Charlie, about Joy Reed saying Alvin Bragg was a coward.
Jack Smith was a coward.
These guys were cowards for not doing it, right?
I mean, if you go back to the idea of what a mugshot is supposed to be, they might flee.
Therefore, you need to know what they look like really recently, right?
So that's the original rationale for having a mugshot.
Joy Reid basically says Fannie Willis is a national hero for, and I know it's Fonny, but I prefer Fanny.
She's a national hero for her actually making him do this picture, right?
So they are so bloodthirsty.
They're blinded by their own bloodlust to get this man in the most humiliating posture that they can imagine, which is a mugshot.
And, you know, I think there's also something to be said when Joy Reed is talking about this.
She's saying, listen, Trump represented this rich white man from Manhattan that I grew up despising, despising.
And he hated black people and he made us go get our own mugshots.
So now it's your turn, buddy.
So I think it's like that's the first piece, that it's bloodlust for getting him to be humiliated.
Secondly, however, and you shared this article around Charlie earlier today.
We don't have the graphic here, but it's the Wall Street Journal, and I think it was Karl Rove.
You shared it around today.
Their idea is that they don't care if we turn it into an iconic image because they think that when we get into the general and you look at the schedule of all the trials coming down, that he lost 6% of Republicans in 2020 and he won like 48 or 49% of Independents.
They are making the calculation that as each and every one of these trials play out and they get exposed to the damning evidence of Trump's guilt, that he's slowly going to bleed more Republicans and he's slowly going to bleed more independents.
And so they're just basically saying, we want the picture.
We want him to be humiliated.
We don't care if you run with it for a little while.
Maybe we underestimated how much you would like the image.
But thirdly, we still get our trials.
We still get to go through the entire catwalk of embarrassing Trump during the general election and we're still going to win.
Yeah.
So I think you're spot on, Andrew.
I don't think this is rooted in reason or rationality.
It's revenge.
It's bloodlust.
Tyler.
Yeah, I mean, the thing that is most important for all of us to focus on is that they have to do all of this, right?
This is a coordinated effort because Trump was exactly right about Biden when he called them out for all the Ukraine stuff and they impeached him.
That's why they impeached him.
That's why they impeached him.
And so all of this is just a continuation.
So your first question was like, all this hubbub, the circus, like this is just like, this is just becoming more and more apparent as a circus.
Their bet is like, again, a Linskyite type stuff, right?
Which is like, we're doing this because we think we can manipulate the general public into thinking there's something really wrong here.
Yes.
And the truth is, is that this is just a continuation since they were wrong.
And now it's even more important for them.
They have to cover up the fact that that was a complete manufactured lie, arguably to cover for Biden to begin with when this whole thing started.
So there's many elements this, and I have to kind of indulge in my own news story, if that's okay, guys, because, you know, I just, someone sent me about three or four links while we're on here, and it kind of plays into this.
So the attempt to try to make Donald Trump a felon or a criminal ties into this 14th Amendment stuff.
And Jack, you and I have been dialoguing on this.
Andrew, I think it's one of the most fun things we've done as a show, and it's gone totally viral, and it's still ongoing.
So, you know, the media says, oh, Charlie Kirk falsely pushes this thing that Donald Trump won't be on the ballot.
Well, breaking as we are doing this, Bostonglobe.com, lawsuit to disqualify Trump filed in New Hampshire.
So, Andrew, I mean, I could tell the story from my perspective.
I think it'd be more fun, Andrew, for the audience to hear it from your perspective and tie this into the mugshot criminalization of Trump and the attempt to try to get Trump off the ballot and how our program played a role in shining a lot light on these cockroaches.
Well, it was, yeah, to your first point, it's one of the most fun, enjoyable W's that we get to take as a show.
That NBC, NBC called it falsely suggested that New Hampshire was going to, you know, it was entertaining this.
This is absolutely true.
We can play the interview clips.
Ryan, if you want to bring up Corky from his, I think he did a local radio interview in New Hampshire where he said, and where he said, yeah, I think this is real.
You know, the Atlantic's talking about it.
These Federalist Society judges or law scholars are talking about it.
This is a real thing.
I think we should absolutely look into it.
So we have the clips.
We play the clip.
Obviously, NBC didn't bother to listen to that part of the show.
And then you put up the number to the Secretary of State in New Hampshire.
They start bombarding the call center.
It gets so many calls, they turn it off.
So then we put up the email and then everybody starts emailing them.
And that night, NBC says that Charlie Kirk's show audience bombards the phones for the New Hampshire Secretary of State.
This has all been proven true.
As a matter of fact, we should email NBC and demand a retraction of that false word that they put in there.
This is absolutely an open question.
David French in New York Times floated it.
The Atlantic, Lorene Powell Jobs owned Atlantic floating it.
You've got this Chicago, University of Chicago, is there UPenn, the law review?
I mean, this is like 130-page law review.
Yeah.
I mean, this is this is a, when it comes to elite institutional, you know, Overton window expanding stuff, this is big time exhibit A, how they do it.
And so you came up with the idea.
You said, listen, we got to kill this thing in the crib.
And I apologize.
That's a terrible expression.
We have to, we have to kill it before it can start.
So we're going to, we're going to make an example.
We're going to name New Hampshire.
We're going to go for it and we're going to take it out before they can start this.
And then, you know, to the credit of the show and to you, Charlie, and actually, Tyler, Tyler, you set this up where we got to speak with Chris Agers, who's the NHGRI.
Every single one of these stories.
Our interview is quoted everywhere.
Everywhere.
Yeah.
So we asked the question.
We said, listen, we're hearing that and reports are stating that this is a thing.
Then we want to hear from the source.
And he said, listen, I spoke with the AG.
I spoke with the Secretary of State.
I have every confidence that all the 14 candidates that have applied to be on the ballot will be on the ballot.
And so, listen, we responded to the reporting.
We brought in a firsthand witness and he said that he had confidence it was going to be that way.
We said, we hope you're right.
So we did our job and our audience absolutely flooded the call lines.
And that's the way this democracy works, this republic works.
Pardon me, Charlie.
Democracy.
Yes.
And if anything, it's an oligarchy the way it's going right now.
Jack, this was.
Yeah, go, Jack, please.
No, so here's my comment, right?
So the media's response to this is not to call, is not, they're not just calling you a liar.
There's a reason they're calling you a liar, even though you can obviously point to various media outlets that have reported this.
Even Politico basically said what you said.
But here's the problem.
It's because suddenly public outcry is not coming from an approved source.
Yeah, that's right.
So the Charlie Kirk show, Turning Point USA, et cetera, the right, the larger right, we are not allowed to be sources of public outcry.
Only the media, only the government, only academia, only Anthony Fauci, these types, et cetera, are allowed to raise the alarm about, quote, what's going on in society.
So you'll see this playbook run again and again and again, where if they want to inflame the public, they'll say, police officers are disproportionately killing unarmed black men.
And they'll just say it over and over and over, even though if you point to the statistics, it just doesn't bear out.
It's never borne out.
But they'll say, then they'll go back to saying, oh, well, it's lived experience.
People feel that they're targeted, et cetera.
Why They Lie About Racism00:13:10
And then they'll kind of die on the vine.
You hear the same refrains repeated over and over.
Systemic racism.
Joe Biden this week took a break from his never-ending vacation tour, tour of vacation sites, where by the way, he's going to Alaska for vacation on 9-11, apparently.
And the first president since 9-11 that hasn't actually gone to a site.
But he took a break from his vacation tour, his whirlwind tour of vacations to tell us and remind us that white supremacy is the number one threat in America.
Yes, it's white supremacy that's going to shoot you on the streets of every single city in the United States.
It's white supremacy that you have to look out for when you're going to your ATM in Anacostia, D.C.
It's white supremacy that's to blame for the U.S. dollar being what it is.
And you can go down the list.
And so it's very, very telling then that the response you see when somebody like a Charlie Kerr raises one of these issues, which then corresponds with public pressure that they have to try to shut it down.
Yeah, and it's a non-approved source.
And it's really interesting.
I mean, the Independent, which is, Andrew, I don't know if there's a more reprehensible, you know, let's just say SEO sourced thing out there.
It's up there.
Trump voters ambush.
Is it really owned by Russians?
Well, maybe they're not.
So I'm kidding.
Trump voters ambush New Hampshire state office over false rumor he was removed from primary ballot.
And that's not at all true.
And by the way, this is what upsets me.
If you actually listen to our story in our show, hour one, Monday, because this was going around the internet over the weekend.
So we led with it on Monday.
So we said, listen, we know, and we covered it the week before when it came out in the Atlantic, right?
So it was like we do.
Law Review, Lawrence Tribe, David French, the sweep and force of the section three of the 14th Amendment.
We were following it all.
Then Mr. Corky meets with the Secretary of State and says, I think you really need this Friday.
Yep.
So we never said that he was going to get removed from the ballot.
We said there's a move afoot in California and New Hampshire so far, and who knows where else, just to unilaterally move to remove Trump from the ballot based on not even a conviction, just the fact that he's disqualified himself from aiding and abetting insurrectionists or whatever.
So we said, listen, if this was our point, this was your point.
You made it very clear.
You tweeted it twice, I think.
You said, if any Secretary of State or any county official so much as sniffs at this harebrained legal theory that you can just unilaterally remove Trump from a ballot,
then all the red state counties and red state secretary of states better get ready and mobilize and do the same and pull the traitor Joe Biden off the ballot, which I think is a completely smart and wise and reasonable reaction to them pulling what Dershowitz says is an end of democracy type move.
They will literally end democracy if they do that.
And again, I know we're a representational Republican.
I know what he's saying.
And so, but this is a really important point here is that, and Tyler, I'm going to kind of put you, you know, your thing, the RNC on the spot, because you've done a great job.
Wouldn't it have been helpful if the RNC chairwoman would have taken questions from the audience?
I want you to go back through this for our audience.
And if the RNC passed a resolution saying that it does not matter if you're an indicted or accused felon, you can become a party's nominee.
I mean, that would have been a big statement, right?
I mean, that's what would be nice, right?
Like right now, what should have happened?
Yeah.
First off, walk us through the whole thing.
I wouldn't have held a debate without Trump.
Oh, I think that's really interesting.
So walk us through your calculus there.
I haven't heard that.
Like, nobody's talking about that, but it's like, I didn't attend the debate because number one, Fox was hosting, right?
And Fox is stupid, right?
Nobody likes Fox.
The greater atmosphere of the Republican Party right now, nine out of 10 Republican primary voters probably would say, I don't really watch Fox as much anymore.
I don't watch it at all anymore.
I don't watch Fox anymore.
Do you watch Fox anymore?
I am not on anymore.
So I don't watch.
Yeah, we don't watch Fox anymore.
And they're driving themselves into their own hole.
And there's some people we like that go on Fox and whatever, but we just don't watch Fox anymore.
Jesse's a good guy.
And then you look at the debate sponsors.
The debate sponsors were in the back pocket of Mike Pence, right?
So if you're showing the best climate change question in the history of Republican debates.
Yeah.
So they set up between these two idiots.
These two idiots were like climate change.
And like most people in Milwaukee, like just think people are stupid.
Like they literally start drinking at the age of six in Milwaukee.
They don't care about climate change.
So I mean, it's not, this isn't, this isn't Flint, Michigan, right?
So like, you know, which again, that's a, that's a Democrat construct.
So, you know, you look at this and you go, if these things are happening, first off, why are you not nimble enough to change that to make a environment where your top vote getter is going to come and your former president and your former president?
Why are you not being nimble enough?
But then most importantly, like, what good does it do?
So the bigger question like the RNC should be asking itself and every Republican Party apparatus should be asking itself, whether it's statewide, countywide, local, your precinct, is what I'm doing helpful to getting people elected.
Yes.
The debate, if I ask you the question, is this helping elect our nominee?
Well, our nominee right now, by about 50 points, is going to be Donald Trump, and he's not there.
So how could that possibly be helpful?
So you're saying that the RNC should have said no debate.
So the RC should say no debate because of what you're saying, which is the message that we should already be driving at this point, which is like, it doesn't matter what happens to anyone here.
It doesn't matter what false narrative that the left pushes.
By the way, Rana could be out on the microphone every single day saying they lied about President Trump.
They lied about President Trump.
They lied about you.
They lied about conservatives.
They said that there was some kind of like background Russian collusion.
You guys elected our base, our voters elected Donald Trump because Hillary Clinton's so bad.
And Joe Biden's the same thing.
And so, you know, we're not going to stand by and let anyone get indicted.
They can indict Vivek for, you know, for his vegetarian ways.
They could invite, you know, they could indict.
We're basically opening up the gates, vegan ways.
It's worse, right?
So like, you know, we are basically opening the door saying that you can indict anyone for anything.
And meanwhile, we're like, oh, the show must go on.
We must have debates that don't matter.
Like, it's so stupid.
The whole thing is literally like a crazy alter universe, you know, alternate reality type scenario.
Yeah.
So if they would have canceled the debate and they could have done maybe a forum or whatever, I mean, it would have been a stronger message because, I mean, by the way, their ratings were cut in half.
The ratings were in half of what they were back in 2016 for the first debate.
And I can't imagine these upcoming debates are going to be as worse.
Yeah, it's going to get worse.
And so let's actually, yeah, Jack.
I was going to say on that, you have to actually combine this with the last topic because it wasn't just that they were cut in half, but because the mugshot came out afterwards, nobody remembers that.
We've totally been erased from everyone's front of mind space.
You know, Andrew, you know how important front of mind is for NPR and marketing, et cetera.
So the fact that you would have to sit here and think, look, we all do this, you know, professionally, whatever.
And you'd have to actually sit there and think about, okay, what was that thing I like to debate again, right?
I remember because the mugshot just dominated everyone's cranial airspace for the next, you know, 72 hours in such a way that, look, this picture has been seen by like people who are living on an island that have never been contacted by the outside world.
People are actually putting this picture into it.
No, it's true.
They're putting this picture into glass bottles and throwing them into the ocean.
And people on like Aborigines on tribal islands are seeing it.
Well, I mean, Jack, the mugshot on Twitter got 254.6 million views.
Are you serious?
Plus, the Tucker interview got 250.
So it's the same people.
There's a lot of overall.
But I mean, that is 20 times the amount of people who watch any part of the debate.
But not just the mugshot.
It was the fact that Trump came back to Twitter.
All right.
So that's the point.
So there's 20 times more people.
Viewed the mug, because you're only going to remember one line from the debate, maybe two, right?
So this is what we talk about all the time on social media with like, the impact that you have Jack, and the impact that Charlie has, the impact that Benny has and and so many others, and turning point has is, like people only remember so much yes, and so these three minute segments that they have of Fox are so outdated.
People are really remembering 30 seconds.
But then they also want this long form element right, which is like they want to come to a long form to know that what they're hearing is actually true.
But they're only going to take away the soundbite, the Rush Limba style soundbite.
Well, hold on, so just.
And so FOX is just doing it completely backwards and completely wrong.
But you're right, I mean, you're 100 right, Jack.
Like the only takeaway is that is the Trump picture, the Trump image, the Tucker interview.
Nobody even remembers anything that was said in the Tucker interview.
They just know it happened.
Yes, Andrew.
So I mean just to play a little bit of devil's advocate, though it's.
You know, the HILL reported yesterday Trump drops six points in post debate GOP poll.
Um, I know that Trump put out a truth social, saying it's wrong.
He didn't drop it all, he went up, I mean it.
Is there a potential you know scenario here where we're assuming the mugshot is good because we like it but actually when you poll the general population, it is having a negative impact.
I mean, there's so many mugshot.
No, I was just gonna say I don't think the mugshot will necessarily have that, but i'm curious to see how the trials play out.
So if it looks as though the trials have this, this schedule, which is supposedly being set during the primary season um, or even at any point during 2024, that if you have these trials in 2024 completely unprecedented we've never had anything like this in our history that will it have a segment of the population that is enthralled by it, that is turned off by it?
Or and I probably would lean more towards this is that people would just kind of with the exception of the one that's on tv people would be checked out.
I think people would be checked out because like go go go, ask somebody on the street, yo hey, what are, what are the four Trump indictments, right?
You know, i'd love that'd be a good like uh, like Sad Fernandez, you know, man on the street video.
I don't even know if anybody could name one of them, can you?
Can you name one of them?
Yeah exactly exactly, well it's.
It's curious too if they overreached with four right, if one would have been more powerful right if, if they would have just let Jack Smith do his thing and keep Fulton County out of it, let keep keep Alvin Bragg out of it.
You, we know they're coordinating.
I mean, it's clear when you look at the timeline that there is a vast left-wing conspiracy to actually get Trump, And it's not even, you know, I'm not saying that.
Charge him with conspiracy.
Yeah, right?
Which is hilarious.
Yeah, Charlie tweeted out.
It was like, yeah, there was, you know, we're going to subvert an election to charge somebody for subverting an election, right?
So, like, the whole thing, the circular logic of it all is really weird.
But I actually think you might be right, Jack, that because they've gone for deep, it almost starts blazing over people's heads, especially people that aren't news junkies like us that are following this like so closely.
It's just kind of like at this point, what else could you throw at him?
Do you guys even remember that he's indicted for Stormy Daniels payments?
Do you remember that?
Like, it's like that popped into my, I was doing an interview the other day, and they were like, oh, yeah, what's the first indictment?
I think about it for a second, Alvin Break.
Oh, yeah, Stormy Daniels payment.
Like, wow, that's like, it's like an OG.
Who's in jail?
It was nostalgic.
I was like, nostalgic.
And who's in jail?
Michael Avenatta.
Right.
And again, this is like Charlie's point.
The RNC chair, Mitch McConnell, like we have losers that don't talk about this stuff.
Because I don't, I do you think they don't care, or is it just they're controlled, or is it just like, why aren't you every day being like, oh, an indictment?
You mean like the Stormy Daniels thing that Michael Avenatti is now in jail?
Stormy Daniels and Michael Avenatti00:03:21
Yes.
You say that, like the general public of America is like, oh, yeah.
Oh, oh, you mean like this false accusation, like the Russian collusion that ended up being right about Biden and Ukraine that we're now investigating in Congress?
Well, that's like 30 seconds of like you've just, you've just convinced the entire American public.
I was watching a package, though, Tyler.
Like, and this is how the mainstream news media, which again, you have to think about like our old rhino kind of centrist Republicans are still consuming their news.
They, they, they basically said, oh, and the Democrats are practically begging Republicans to start this impeachment inquiry.
They think it'll, it'll backfire on them in the general election, right?
So the centralization is the media says just do the just do the opposite.
Right.
I mean, I think you're right.
I mean, I think the electorate is looking for us to have a backbone, is looking for the Republican Party to have a backbone.
I certainly know that's what we've been calling for, but that is the logic.
They think that if they shut down the government on September 30th, they think that if they actually move forward with impeaching Biden, that it's going to have this negative backlash from the population, from voters.
But, you know, what's funny in that is that Democrats are not showing any such caution.
They're going ahead and indicting Trump four times over.
They don't care about any so-called backlash.
They're calculating the complete opposite.
So, you know, this is the state of things, sadly.
Okay.
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Jack, COVID 2.0 2024, the worst sequel ever.
In fact, we should talk about the worst sequels ever made.
Jack, is this the worst sequel ever?
I mean, is it the worst sequel ever?
I mean, you look at some of the reboots.
You look at some of the Star Wars stuff that's come out, man.
There's been some clunkers.
There's been some real, real bad ones.
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But I got to tell you, I got to tell you, this might be the worst one for our country, for our kids, because Charlie, they're already, and I know you and I have been having discussions offline about this pretty extensively.
They're actually talking about bringing mask mandates back, not in the future, right now.
So the mandates come back.
Will they do it for schools?
Will they do it for airlines, universities, et cetera?
Hospitals are already talking about it in some areas.
This is all setting the stage for a potential future lockdown.
And then, of course, will ultimately be used.
And Tyler, I know you're included on this.
Will be used to extend every single COVID-19 ballot measure that was passed under emergency reasons.
More emergency.
Yeah, vote from home, right?
There's one goal that they have.
It'll be vote from home.
If they can make every vote like Yokava votes, which is like you can phone it in, you can fax it in.
You can text it in.
You can email it in.
That's what they want.
Everybody's registered, and then they can just manipulate the entire system like Yokava votes.
And for those of you that are listening, Yokava that listen to the show, those are your overseas uniformed officer votes.
And so they're able to, the federal lodger and they can basically vote by like homing pigeon if they want to.
They could tie a note to someone's like lane and like literally send it over if they want to.
They can vote any way they want.
And that's what the Democrats want.
That's their wet dream.
The Democrat wet dream is for every single human being that exists in America, citizen or non-citizen, to have the capacity to vote like literally from their mobile phone.
Yep.
And that, and that's what we have to prevent.
And that's the reason why election integrity measures are so important to talk about keeping the precinct, paper ballots, everything has to be there.
And that's what we read the resolution.
But like we talk about, but I have like the best analogy, I think, for, can we play this video?
Do we have the video of Jeb Bush?
Which one?
I put it in.
Can we play the video of Jeb Bush?
Come here, Bush.
Thank you all very much.
The next president is going to be confronted with an unforeseen challenge.
That's almost certain.
It could be a pandemic, a major natural disaster, or an attack on our country.
The question for South Carolinians and Americans is.
Pandemic.
Yeah, that was on everybody's mind.
He said pandemic in 2016.
Yeah, that was on everyone's mind.
So it might have been 2015, actually, when he said that.
Yeah, it was 2015, 2016, somewhere there.
But I actually think the Democrats thought that their handling a pandemic would be their version of 9-11.
That's like a pretty crazy statement.
But even how 9-11 is that?
I get what you're saying.
Yeah, you're right.
9-11 brought together Americans, brought together Americans by tragedy, but made everyone more conservative.
I think they thought how they handle a pandemic.
Yeah, will make everyone more liberal.
Makes everybody come together more liberally.
But a lot of the European countries have, like Germany, the holding party in Germany.
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I mean, there's been some ruffles in the parliamentary elections, but like they institutionally got stronger during COVID.
Totally.
Yeah.
They, they, they have, they have actually proven that that's true because it makes sense.
Health and human services versus like the military, right?
Like, it's just military is going to like, if they have the microphone, they're going to make your country more conservative.
You know, Dr. Fauci is going to make your country more liberal.
So that was the mistake that Trump made in that regard is giving a microphone to these people and not recognizing that.
But my analogy in sequels is that Jaws, if Jaws is your 9-11, really warmly received by the entire country, left and right, one of the best movies ever made, you know, almost 100% at the tomato meter.
Jaws 2 is one of the worst sequels ever made, which is COVID, right?
As far as like national emergencies go.
No one ever remembers the worst movie ever made, which was the sequel to the sequel, which is Jaws the Revenge, which has a 0% tomato meter and 15% audience.
It's one of the worst movies ever.
Which one was Jaws 3D?
I remember Jaws 3D.
Jaws 3D was in the middle.
That was the middle one, right?
Yeah, that was the third one.
Yeah.
But Jaws the Revenge is like heralded as one of the worst movies ever made.
So the Revenge is actually the last, the fourth one.
So you want to talk about the analogy of like, you know, I was kind of laughing because I was actually watching a Reading Rainbow episode.
I wish I could pull this clip.
I sent some pictures here.
So we were watching Reading Rainbow because you know how it makes all the sounds like and like kids would read a book and go, do, and that's why I read this book.
It's so great.
You should go to the library and read it too.
One of the kids, it was a September, I don't know why I was on this today, but it was one of the kids were talking about September 11th.
They must have run that long.
And one of the kids goes, I think that even though September 11th was bad, it was also really good.
And she was talking about how the country came together.
So like after that, like that was the good part of September 11th.
Wuhan Researcher Connections00:05:42
Yeah, people have people have made that point.
Glennbach had the whole 9-12 thing for a while.
But it was funny because this kid on Reading Rainbow was like, oh, September 11th was really bad, but it was also really good.
This was like right after September 11th.
But the whole point is this is like Jaws was a really good movie.
Like September 11th, ultimately, it strengthened the country.
The country was invariably more American after September 11th, regardless of what you think about the handling and the lead up and the conspiracy and everything else that's around it.
But COVID definitely didn't make the country a better place as a society.
COVID made us all more reclusive and more despising one another and cautious.
I still walk through a Walmart or something and hear someone cough.
And even me, I'm like triggered by it because of COVID.
Yeah, we've been conditioned.
You almost died.
You almost died, Tyler.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know about that.
Until Iver Mecton.
Ivor Mecton saved it.
Yeah, Ivermecton saved Tyler's life.
It's a true story.
True story, guys.
He was a bad person.
It wasn't a breathing issue.
I wasn't like, I was a fever.
I had a fever for like 14 straight days.
It was 12 straight days.
And the fever producers weren't working.
Ivermectin within six hours fixed it.
You want to know a weird COVID 2.0 tie-in with this UNC gunman shooting.
I don't know if you guys saw this, but a guy's name was the same.
Mostly white Asian.
Probably, right?
That's what they said.
That was the most key.
Really?
Yes, on Fox.
It was mostly white Asian.
It's not a joke, right, Jack?
Mostly white thing.
Who actually said I saw?
I saw that Fox had the Chiron up, but I think they were quoting someone and I couldn't find who they actually are.
It's a real thing.
They said mostly white Asian.
Anyway, continue.
The police said that?
Zimmerman tie-in to exactly.
Yeah.
So Tali Key, he was pictured with his professor, Zizhi Yan, just months before he shot him dead in college physics lab as Wuhan educated suspect is charged with first-degree murder.
So this is what's really interesting.
I actually went on a deep dive when this story came out because if you know that the time, the timeline is kind of interesting.
And Jack, you might know this actually a little bit better than I do, but like 2013, Obama and the NIH issued a moratorium on gain of function research.
Well, guess who the leading gain of function researcher in the world was at the time?
Ralph Barrick at University of North Carolina.
So he then goes to China and finds the Wuhan Institute of Virology and Peter Dasik and EcoHealth Alliance, and they partner with the Yuhan Institute.
And so Barrick even gave certain cultures and cells and all stuff to get this researcher, I think Xi or something, jump-started in gain of function research research using bat quantum, right?
By the way, Ralph Barrick looks like the most unassuming fall guy in every bat, like for every bad guy in every movie.
We should get the picture.
Ryan, get a picture.
He looks like the fall guy.
He looks like he was cast, central casting for like the like the fall guy like, oh, I don't know if I should be doing this.
Like that, that kind of guy.
Where did everybody go?
I thought we were supposed to meet here.
I know, right?
Like, how weird is it?
How weird is it that like as we're getting like these masks coming back, the vaccines, the Joe Biden requesting funding from Congress for a new booster?
I mean, you know, Karine John Pierre going from the podium at the White House saying, hey, we're going to get these out by September 15th or whatever.
And then in the middle of that, just this random shooting that exposed this weird connection between Wuhan Institute of Virology and UNC and Ralph Barrick, this Wuhan educated, you know, academic goes on a shooting spree at UNC and kills his professor.
It was like this.
There was this little tremor.
It was like a, it was like a harbinger of things to come of like how Wuhan's still coming for us.
There he is.
Well, you remember the one, though, that, and I'm just going to say it reminds me of this, that there was a guy by the name of Bing Lio, she's, or I guess Lio Bing, because I'm reading on a BBC site.
So he was a professor, assistant professor at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine who was found dead on May of 2020 while he was doing research.
He was a Chinese-born assistant researcher on coronavirus in the United States in early 2020.
So May of 2020, mid to early 2020, but early in the pandemic.
And all of a sudden is found killed in a murder-suicide in the Pittsburgh area, supposedly killed by this guy, Guhao, who was a software engineer that people said, oh, they barely even knew if we knew each other.
And it's like, it's just eerily similar to me as to what's going on.
And, you know, if I were to commit a thought crime, I would say, I'll just go put it this way.
Do we really not think that the CCP doesn't have intelligence cells operating inside the United States?
And don't we already know that the CCP has intelligence rings that have directly targeted these research centers?
I mean, how many times does Natalie Winters have tell us about it over at the war room, right?
She's like, here's another one.
Here's another one.
Here's another one.
DOG routinely prosecutes these guys part of the of the thousand talents program.
So you have people that are associated with research into COVID suddenly killed in these random shootings, not once, but now twice.
Magnesium Breakthrough Benefits00:02:46
Pretty convenient.
Pretty convenient.
Of course, especially as everything's coming back.
We don't deal with those.
That would be a thought crime for me to say there was ever some underlying like what I was at when I was at Gitmo.
So we were never allowed to call them radical jihadis, but we would say we would my one of the guys I was deployed there with was saying, if only we could find some connection, some commonality, you know, between these terrorists who believe in a certain ideology of which we were not allowed to discuss.
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Waffle House Song Lyrics00:14:51
Okay, Jack, let's talk Oliver Anthony.
Let's play Cut 67.
It's aggravating seeing people on conservative news try to identify with me like I'm one of them.
It's aggravating seeing certain musicians and politicians act like we're buddies and act like we're fighting the same struggle here, like that we're just trying to present the same message.
You know, like it was funny seeing my song in the it was fun.
It was funny seeing it the presidential debate because it's like I wrote that song about those people, you know?
So for them to have to sit there and listen to that, that cracks me up.
But it was funny kind of seeing the response to it.
Like that song has nothing to do with Joe Biden, you know?
It's a lot bigger than Joe Biden.
That song is written about the people on that stage and a lot more too, not just them, but definitely them.
Okay, so Jack, you're a fan of noise, otherwise known as country music.
Andrew is the country music fan.
What should we make of Ginger Beard Man?
So he also put out another statement, and I'll give you a piece of it just so to give him full clarity.
Because even after that video, which was very confusing to all the conservatives who had supported him, had promoted him, had paid money to his music, had traveled hours and hours of vast distances to go see him to hear him disavowing conservatives.
He then also wrote, corporate news is now trying to twist me into being a Biden supporter.
That song has nothing to do with Joe Biden.
It's a lot bigger than Joe Biden.
I was referencing DeSantis' response to my song.
He talks about needing to get Joe Biden out as if that would automatically solve all the problems.
Biden is a big part of the issue.
It runs much deeper.
The song is about corporate-owned DC politicians on both sides.
And he's basically saying that includes corporate-owned conservative politicians on that stage as well as Biden.
So when I read these comments, when I look at this entire thing, there's a couple pieces of it that I have to look at.
I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
And I would always do that to anybody.
Look, you don't get a playbook.
You don't get a handbook when you become, you go viral, you become famous, notorious, whatever the word is.
Look at the, you know, the viral plane lady.
You know, she kind of goes silent for a while, then starts doing this sort of limited rollout.
There's a new video of her, by the way, where she says, she actually backs up what she said.
And she goes, look, I can't tell you what I saw, but I was 100% getting off that plane.
She just said it in a new video.
I'm so into this.
But Oliver Anthony, you know, this guy, I get it, right?
Like, he doesn't want to come out and say, hey, man, I'm a died in the wool Republican or, hey, man, I'm a Democrat.
I think he's probably just coming from a normal common perspective and trying to say that, you know, he doesn't want to be claimed by one side or the other.
And that's all well and good.
But I do think at the same time, this has probably left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths because this was a rejection.
And I think conservatives need to understand that this was a rejection.
And this shows, by the way, that conservatives are still struggling to gain a cultural foothold in the country.
And what do I mean by that?
I mean that to be branded as a conservative, to be branded or even worse as a Republican is still seen as negative in this country.
So do we have to continue to pretend the song is good?
I like the song.
I was down with the song.
I rocked the song.
I think the whole thing is really, what is, I mean, I'm just serious.
What is the appeal of such anthem?
You mean the lyrical appeal or the musical appeal?
Both.
I mean, it's basically repurpose populist nationalism with like basically some guy out of tune yelling into the sky.
I think anyone that attacks the district of corruption is ultimately helping our cause.
It doesn't matter.
Symbols are important.
Yeah, I actually think.
I actually think the way I interpreted his video was that he's actually raging against people like Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, Chris Christie, this neocon vibe, because he talks about caring about other lands as opposed to caring about America.
And, you know, he's right.
I mean, we've talked about these strange bedfellows that we sometimes run up against in modern politics where this nationalist populist urge can kind of, the movement can kind of end up creating alliances that match not that long ago, right?
So I think it's a really interesting, he's basically just saying, hey, all that bottom paid for stuff, I don't care if you're left or right, I don't like it.
And that's basically the same message we have on our show.
So that's why I didn't take offense to it, but I can understand why some people, it was ambiguous enough because he's ultimately not a political creature.
His very political song took fire and now he's sort of thrust in the spotlight or politics, but I don't know that he's versed at it.
And I think that's a reflection that a lot of people just aren't that good at talking about politics.
So this was part of the debate.
And I actually do want to push back on what he, what, I won't come down him.
I'm not going to come down the guy, but people have been saying, and you can tell that there's definitely sounds like some of these, these responses were crafted in, you know, they sound like PR Spin, right?
And Andrew, you know PR Spin, obviously.
That, you know, it's like, he's saying like, oh, you know, that line about, you know, kids in the street ain't got nothing to eat and five foot three and buying your fudge rounds.
And he goes, well, that was a, that was a contextualization of an attack on the welfare system as well as the state of the American food supply.
That's what RFK Jr. actually said, because it's so much cheaper and easier to buy junk food than it is to buy healthy food.
I'm like, but that's not what the basic lyric of the song was.
And if you listen to the basic lyrics of the song, it is definitely national populism.
It's definitely bringing up issues that are clearly on the right side of the aisle.
Maybe not your old school traditional conservatism, sure, but it's definitely a MAGA anthem, right?
It is definitely playing into to the point of where it even has a Jeffrey Epstein reference, okay?
So let's cut the spin, cut through the spin a little bit and point out this was very clearly a song that directly tracked with a lot of people that would consider themselves on the right or center right.
And so to come out now and say, oh, no, it has nothing to do with that.
That's a stretch, man.
That's a bit of a stretch.
Like, I hope you reach out to me.
If he's supposed to be this like super bulgy guy, why doesn't he own it then?
And then now he's doing like selfies with The Rock and like The Rock who's super left.
He did a selfie with The Rock.
I didn't even see that.
Well, no, The Rock comes out and defends him, being like, so proud of you, man.
Way to not make this political.
So what is admirable about this whole thing?
I'm honestly curious because everybody, I've refused to get on the bandwagon, but I want someone to tell me why this guy's a hero.
I heard the theory that this is all about Waffle House.
The song?
Yeah.
So Waffle House is actually, Richmond's the actual line where Waffle House stops and IHOP begins.
And IHOP begins.
So I just dropped.
Yeah, I mean, I should just send you the map.
It's actually below.
So somebody first came out and went like, oh, this is like a pseudo, because at first he had some accusations.
I don't know if these were transparent about the Mason Dixon line, that this was like a super like Confederate driven song.
And it really is not about that at all.
It's about Waffle House.
Which we're all for neo-Confederate conspiracy theories.
Am I right?
Yeah, but Waffle House stops at Richmond.
You cannot find a Waffle House past Richmond.
There's one on the other side.
I'm not going to go south in the land of Waffles.
That's it.
So are we pro-Waffle House?
I've never, I'm IHOP.
I live in Arizona.
I like Waffle House personally.
If you want to get shit.
Listen, this thing.
There's no Wawa south of there in that Waffle House area either now that I look at it.
Richmond is like the last Wawa until people don't know what a Wawa is.
This is a Wawa Waffle House.
No, but he could have just come out and say, why can't he just come out and say it's about Waffle House?
Waffle House.
I appreciate him going after the people on stage.
I totally like that, obviously.
But I mean, understand the dynamics of the country that you're in.
He said, this is not about Biden.
It's bigger than Biden.
Okay.
Well, Charlie, let me ask you this question.
So this was something that there's a lot of angles to this, but there was another thing that came up.
And it was like, what do you think of people who say, oh, it's both sides?
It's really both sides at fault here.
My take on it was something along the lines of: look, I can understand where you say both parties are at fault.
And if that's what you're trying to say, then fine.
I'm with you, man.
Like, because Republicans have been too pro-war for way too long and liberals have been, I mean, it's obvious, right?
So, yeah, we can do that.
But if you're saying both sides as if there aren't, you know, differences between the people who are on the side of the populace and the people who are in DC, then I would just have to call you out as saying, like, what my eye do is actually, you're actually trying to dissuade people from taking action.
You have a pacifying stand as opposed to what I would say, everything that Carly and Tyler and you guys do at Turning Point.
So, yeah, put the noise aside.
Some of the lyrics are nicely put together.
Some of it, I think, is just rather banal.
But then look at this: the People magazine, Washington Post, they're all defending him.
Every single one of them.
Yeah, it's a red flag.
People magazine claps back at politicians using his viral hit.
I wrote this about those people.
Washington Post, Oliver Anthony criticizes politicians after a song played at GOP debate.
Washington, LA Times, we love them, right?
Oliver Anthony slammed song being used in GOP debate.
Newsweek, Oliver Anthony lashes out at troll after the rock comments.
He's now a darling.
So I think, honestly, he is acting like MAGA, like a liberal and MAGA face.
He's LARPing as a MAGA guy.
Looks like it, sings the songs.
But when it comes to actually stand up and say, you know what?
Yeah, I wrote about all the people on the stage, but Trump wasn't on the stage.
That would have been pretty powerful.
And by the way, do you notice he never lands a glove on Biden?
He just avoids it.
So what am I, Jack?
Am I missing here?
Because literally, I was the only one to not get on the bandwagon.
Everyone's like, this guy's so great.
And again, anything to do with country music, I immediately think is a waste of time.
But this guy is now the darling of the regime media.
Well, and he's also linked up with the great Barry Weiss over at the free press.
So the, what is it?
The ideological dark web, the intellectual dark web.
They're having a resurgence.
So he's not one side or the other.
He's some special third thing.
And I'm sorry, like I just, the whole IDW thing, it was cringe from the moment it began.
It was this absolute instead of like, instead of saying, you know, we're for what's pragmatic and we're for what works, they're like, we're going to take the best sides of both ideologies and work.
And it's, it's so cringe.
It's, it's actually more elitist than actually just being a straight up paid off oligarch.
Like at least with Hunter Biden and the Bidens, like they're just criminal.
Like they're just straight up gangsters.
Like, yeah, you can pay us and you won't be on the U.S. sanctions list.
You could pay us and we'll go to war with Russia.
You could pay us and we'll, you know, we'll bend over and take whatever's coming from China.
Fine.
Like you could at least, like, there's, there's a code there.
You know what I'm saying?
But if you're one of these people that's like mealy mouth and Charlie, to use a perhaps biblical phrase, lukewarm, then you just want to split it out of your mouth.
Yeah.
So just final thing.
New York Times, Rolling Stone, all of them are puff pieces right now, all at once saying Oliver Anthony, number one, Oliver Anthony.
And you read the articles, all of them notice.
Oliver Anthony rejecting right-wing calls to own his anthem.
So he is the darling of the media.
So good job, everybody.
You guys decided to get a hero who hates you.
What you're breaking down, Charlie, is friend-enemy distinction, right?
So you're taking the cues from these areas, which they will tell you, right?
They will, if remember, if Andrew Norm Eisen tells you that Donald Trump shouldn't be on the ballot, the entire media will say, oh, wow, the highly respected Norm Eisen says that Trump shouldn't be on the ballot.
We shall listen to that.
But then Charlie Kirk says it.
Now it's a conspiracy theory, right?
So that's friend-enemy distinction.
And you're using the media as an inverse lens basically to show you who friends and enemies are.
Yeah, and I've been, I actually personally didn't comment either way on the Oliver Anthony thing for a while, right?
Andrew, we didn't cover it on the show, and he did it this, he did this to himself because obviously he wants to be loved by these people.
He has a yearn to be a celebrity, and he's enjoying talking to the rock and all that stuff.
And I mean, something, something appealed, like something, I think it was Jack, you said something about this, but it's this.
I do think that it shows the lack of sticking power still within the conservative cultural sort of movement side of things, right?
I mean, we have this whole political ecosystem, the, you know, the Charlie Kirk show to War Room to Glenn Beck, you know, that can that has some staying power.
But when you're talking about real cultural moments, you still sort of want to, there is this draw, especially when you're younger, when you're in entertainment, to go outside of that ecosystem, even when that ecosystem gave you your success, because you know, you don't want to be owned by anybody or whatever, I guess.
But I think you're, I think what it is, is he was confronted with this overnight sensation, the success.
And all the articles at first, Charlie, were like new right-wing anthem, all this like racist, whatever.
And he was probably like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I don't want to be a mascot.
I don't want to be a mascot.
I'm going to, I'm going to put a little distance here.
And what he didn't realize is that the reactions from you guys on this show, I haven't really thought that hard about it, to be honest.
But that the same success that he had, because people like those who listen to this show got behind him, he's going to alienate those people.
So, you know, you can't split the baby in modern America with this stuff.
JD Vance Bait and Switch00:08:20
You just simply can't.
You got to pick your side.
And he's going to learn that lesson, I think, the hard way.
Those left-wingers are not going to find it.
That's unfair to put an artist in that situation.
And I get that, but it's like, hey, man, it is what it is.
Listen, this is the JD Vance thing.
Listen very carefully.
JD Vance was a darling of the regime media for a year and a half when he wrote Hillbill LGB.
Okay.
Because he was supposed to be the interlocutor, the ombudsman to white Appalachia, Forgotten America.
Okay.
JD Vance spoke at the Aspen Institute.
He spoke everywhere until they realized what JD Vance actually believed.
JD Vance had a spy.
And all of a sudden, then JD Vance became this huge villain.
And you can't get to find a good article about JD Vance now for the last two and a half years since he became a U.S. Senator.
With Oliver Anthony, they're going to try to use him or someone, or they'll just replace him.
They gave him the movie, number one movie on Effect.
Yeah, no, that's right.
But just understand, this is what they're going to do with Oliver Anthony.
They need a way to splinter the white working class base.
And they're going to try to find somebody in music, in art, whatever it is.
And they tried to do some McConaughey, but he failed, okay?
Where they can try to get a little bit of doubt into this new identity politic group that has really been built in the Trump MAGA movement as this solid monolith.
Anything they can do to cast doubt in the white working class base, they try to do this with Yellowstone, Kevin Costner.
This is part of a strategy because white working class America, with a little bit of swing voters, wins elections, right, Tyler?
Well, I mean, think about the real scary part of America.
We see this all the time in the places that you go speak at.
Half of the religious, the religiously affiliated in America don't vote.
They're not even registered to vote, right?
We do this.
We're at churches, like evangelical churches.
Think about who shows up to Country Thunder and these big, huge things.
A lot of teenage girls.
One of the most threatening things to the left that exists right now is that country music is the only thing that they don't completely control.
That's right.
So I don't know if you remember this whole thing that happened not that long ago, but a guy just released an album, kind of similar vibes as a guy named Zach Bryan.
It's very, you know, very popular, especially with women right now.
And remember, he got that whole Travis.
Remember, they got in the spat over the Dylan Mulvaney stuff.
Do you guys remember this?
No.
So he came out and defended transgenderism.
And they like, because they're like, I just thought you could live where and be wherever you want.
Like, yeah, all that thing.
Because Travis did his audience.
A bunch of country music artists, including Travis, came out and said, I'm taking Bud Light off my tours.
Got it.
And he was one of the only ones.
And they like boosted the heck out of him.
Yeah, the whole regime media mobilized.
Like mobilized around him because they're like, oh my gosh, look at this.
This is a unique opportunity.
And then he and then he retreated.
He's like, I got to get the heck out of here.
I can't keep talking about this.
I'm on tour, and people are going to hate me if I defend Dylan Mulvaney, right?
And so he disappeared immediately after that because he was like, this is stupid for me.
But this guy is getting totally, he's a nobody that's getting totally hijacked by that.
Oliver Anthony.
Oliver Anthony.
Yes.
By this whole thing, because they want to do anything that they possibly can to hijack their churches and hijack country music because they only splinter a little bit.
Splinter a little bit.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, Jack, what is hicclip?
Tell us about it.
Yeah.
So the hicclib is a phenomenon.
We've been covering this on human events for a while now.
It really started back in February with, yes, it started with Yellowstone and basically people realizing that all of these sort of left-wing narratives were being laundered into to the right and laundered to a conservative audience through Yellowstone.
And the writer of Yellowstone, Taylor Sheridan, specifically said he was going to do it.
Right.
So he came out in an interview, I think it was Variety or one of the trades and said, yeah, this is what I'm doing.
And he's inserting characters like the one guy has an Indian wife and she's always going off about Indian genocide.
Right.
And Andrew, our resident in Nevada, knows about this.
We've chatted about this.
Fast forward.
Monica, I think her name is.
Are you a big Yellowstone fan, Andrew?
Me and my wife watched it.
Yeah.
But I will tell you that my family, my family, my family got into a dispute in the 1960s with Native Americans.
They like left the land in 1870 or whatever.
Settlers were coming in.
So the settlers took the land.
Happened to be my family.
They settled it.
They made it profitable and all this stuff.
And then in the 1960s, the Indians came back and sued under some technicality.
And it got all the way up to like U.S. Congress.
This is like a big story in the 60s.
Senator McCarran and all this stuff.
Anyways, McCarran ends up saying to the family and others like them in Nevada, hey, I'm in a fight to make sure that you guys don't lose your land.
Well, Senator McCarron died.
We had McCarran Airport before it got renamed.
What is it?
Harry Reid now or whatever it is.
Anyway, so I mean, this was a big, big deal.
And I can tell you that these disputes with the Native Americans and land and stuff, it's real in the West.
And for them to make this character so woke, so annoying, so cringeworthy in this story is exactly what Jack's talking about.
Where it's like, you've got all these conservatives watching this show, and then they inject this woke crap.
And then like, there's another sequel.
What is it?
Is it 1923 or whatever?
I think there's like two sequels.
And then there's another.
1883 was excellent.
Yeah.
Well, that was fine, except for the fact that any of this stuff.
Oh, you know, 1923.
1883 has Sam Lee in it.
Well, so Charlie, the point is, these are huge psyops.
Massive millions and millions of conservatives are watching them.
Really?
And they're getting injected with this stuff.
It's basically saying to conservatives, like, hey, you like this show?
Americana, Americana.
Yeah.
And then also.
How many streaming passwords do you guys have?
I mean, I don't even know where I'd find these shows.
I don't have any.
I have zero.
Where do you find that your wife?
We can't talk about that right now.
So, let me go into this even worse because there's an even worse situation that we found because it turns out that these hick libs, there's also YouTubers that are hicclibs, and many of which are just sort of these made-up personas.
You see a lot of this in like the gun community, like they target the Second Amendment types.
And so, there was an article a couple years ago in the LA Times, and I posted this link a while back.
People are saying this isn't true.
There's no way, listen to this.
The idea began as a bait and switch.
Give people searching online for terms like join oath keepers or quote bomb instructions some content that seemed to fit their request, but instead offered an alternative to extremism.
Keep in mind, this is whatever Google defines as extremism, YouTube.
A method developed by a partnership of a British firm called Moonshot CVE is called the Redirect.
Through partnerships with Google, as well as the Anti-Defamation League, the ADL, everyone's favorite nonprofit, totally unbiased, is to dissuade users from pursuing conspiracies and violent rhetoric by luring them with advertisements to other sites.
In an internet figure known as Bo of the Fifth Column, Moonshot thought that it had found the perfect person to redirect online users to broadcasting under a bare light bulb from a shed packed with camping gear.
Bo appeared as a southern gun owner with progressive views.
Southern gun over gun owner with progressive views, a calming demeanor, an unkept beard, a military aura, and a huge YouTube following.
And yet, his progressive views were then pushed via YouTube, again, in partnership with the ADL, to steer gun owners, southerners, conservatives towards progressive views.
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And it turns out this guy is like a totally convicted felon.
He has like a fake accent.
There's like all sorts of like just total insanity behind the guy.
But the point is that the whole thing actually started on YouTube as a psyop with essentially Google, the ADL, and a British nonprofit working together to steer people towards what we call the hick lib content.
It's a massive psyop.
We have to wrap this soon, guys, because I know people have stuff to get to.
So, we deep web reveal, guys.
Let's lean in.
CBD distillery.
Yeah, that's not me.
All right.
Well, we'll revisit.
We'll revisit.
Yeah.
Okay.
We will do Trump history.
Jack, many people do not know.
Donald Trump taught Socrates everything he knew.
So what's now being revealed through a Twitter account as well as a Telegram page called Trump History is the true history of Donald Trump, his background, and his historic accomplishments, achievements, and contributions to the growth of human society.
Now, the media constantly overlooks these things.
For example, in this case, we have, I believe we have the image right here of Donald Trump when he was teaching Western philosophy.
Do we have that photo, guys?
Yes.
Socrates learned everything he that.
Well, that's learning.
This is a separate one.
This is a separate one.
That was Donald Trump teaching domestic terrorism or something.
I'm not sure what that was.
So there's Donald Trump teaching his student Socrates, who would then go on to teach Plato, taught Aristotle, who taught Alexander the Great, all about morality and Western philosophy.
There's images that are now being revealed of temples and statues, carvings to Donald Trump that were made in ancient Egypt.
Radiocarbon dating suggests these monuments roughly 4,500 years old.
Donald Trump traveling through space and time to collect the seven dragon balls.
Donald Trump and Elon Musk inventing the Tesla Roadster in the 1900s.
I mean, the list goes on.
And so through Trump history.
Put them up, Ryan.
Through Trump history, we really need to be able to show their history.
There's Donald Trump rescuing children in Freedom, by the way.
Hurricane Hillary.
Next one.
This is Donald Trump walking in Selma with Martin Luther King.
Now, thanks to AI, we're able to have all these amazing images, Jack.
In fact, many people.
You don't need to understand.
They're not AI created.
These are just revealed to us through AI.
Many people do not know.
Donald Trump led Julius Caesar and his legion across the Rubicon that would begin a civil war and signaled the end of the Roman Republic.
He was like right here, Jules.
Shout out right there, Jules.
There's Donald Trump executing the Louisiana Purchase with Napoleon Bonaparte.
He said, give him hell, Napoleon.
Take the money.
Give him hell.
Give him hell.
Best deal ever.
Okay, honest question.
Why do you guys like these?
Why do you guys like these?
Because they're hilarious.
Because they're so.
Andrew, we're revealing what's been hidden from us from our own history.
And now finally, we're able to bring it to the people.
Much like Prometheus bringing fire from the gods.
I think they're absolutely hilarious because Donald Trump inventing the wheel.
Hey, look, if Indiana Jones can go back in time and do this, then Donald Trump sure can.
He's not going back in time.
He was actually alive during all these times.
Oh, yeah.
He was actually there.
The podcast audience have no idea what we're talking about.
You got to watch this one, folks.
What's happening?
Donald Trump thinking about teaching Michael Jackson how to dance.
There's Michael Jackson.
That's all I mean.
How to moonwalk specifically.
Even though Michael Jackson is, as you can see here, depicted in his smooth criminal attire.
There's the Rubicon.
There's the Caesar one.
Yeah.
Right here, Jules.
This is where it's shallow.
By the way, this one kind of looks like.
That one looks like Putin to me.
I have to say.
No, that's Captain America.
He's actually Captain America.
It's the inverse of Putin.
He's a cryogenic.
Completely culturally illiterate.
This is.
Which one's this?
I think this is the bin Laden raid.
Bin Laden.
Yeah, it's got to be Bin Laden.
Oh, this one.
Bin Laden raids.
John Wayne.
I'm looking at it.
I personally can't get enough of them.
I think they're absolutely hilarious.
Did AI just make all these in like two seconds?
Yeah.
No, no.
AI is revealing them.
It's opening a portal in space-time and actually showing it to us.
There's President Trump and who John Wayne based all of his movies on.
How much?
How many untrue things do you think you see a day?
I mean, basically that AI has the AI has created.
The post-modernists would say it's not, if you could see it, it's not untrue.
It's true.
All right.
I was going to say.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, it's okay.
Oh, it's fine.
I'm a little lost, but I still think that the Super Saiyan Zoom is the Dragon Ball Z.
The Dragon Ball, the Super Saiyan Trump.
It just made me think.
We were texting today about this with Blake.
I would love a Trump-branded street fighter.
I think it's Trump at the 1936 Olympic, by the way.
Giving it to Hitler right in Munich.
I think it's hilarious.
This is an ancient cave drawing that was discovered of Neolithic France.
This is, they said, you know how, you know, they say the Homo sapiens interbred with the Neanderthals.
Actually, that was Donald Trump, as a matter of fact, which means that, of course, we are all descended from Donald Trump.
Donald Trump was the weird white European.
They discovered him in Petra.
That's right.
Petra.
Yes, the original Petra.
Let's put Moses up.
There's a good Moses one.
The Moses one.
The similar one is Moses.
Oh, the Moses one.
With Trump's beard.
There's Trump with the original draft of the Torah.
Just working on it.
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Just, you know, hashing some stuff out.
He's just going through Deuteronomy.
No, no, you got to change this.
You know what I mean?
He's writing that right to left.
You know what's funny, though?
In all seriousness, this is what wins election.
It is.
So there's power in this.
Oh, my gosh.
All right, guys.
That's the deep web reveal.
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