PublicSq Goes Public with Michael Seifert and Rep. Troy Nehls
Boycotts by the right are more successful than ever, but the biggest barrier to even more is finding alternatives for where to shop. PublicSq has been solving that dilemma, and now PublicSq is going public on the New York Stock Exchange, giving it even more visibility and allowing conservatives to invest directly in creating the parallel economy. Charlie talks to Michael Seifert about the company's latest evolution. Plus, Rep. Troy Nehls talks about the Wray hearing, and Charlie reacts to Friday's most viral moment — Tucker Carlson's systematic dissection of various GOP candidates in Iowa.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Changing Diapers Changes Lives00:14:30
Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show, Michael Seifert from Public Square joins us, publicsq.com.
That is publicsq.com.
We talk about some recent news from his company, really important stuff.
Then Troy Nells, Congressman, joins us about the Christopher Ray hearings and more.
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Joining us now is Michael Seifert, who has some big announcements.
Yesterday we talked about Every Life Public Square.
I am their biggest fan, number one promoter, enthusiastic believer and user of Public Square, publicsq.com.
All of you go to everylife.com and is promo code Charlie10 for a diaper alternative that actually cares about babies.
Michael Seifert is with us.
Michael, tell us in your own perspective, the launch of the diaper company, how things are going.
It's a real beautiful product.
Well, Charlie, I'm really grateful.
Our prediction turned out to be true.
We had hoped that the moms and the dads of this great nation would be as excited as we were for a diaper company that was actually pro-life, pro-family, and unashamed about admitting those two realities.
Because unfortunately, if you look at the nine major diaper brands in the United States today, they're all vocally.
I mean, it's shocking.
Coterie is a luxury diaper.
It's about the nicest diaper money could buy until we released ours yesterday.
Coterie last year, after the overturning of Roe v. Wade, came out and said publicly that their employees, quote unquote, feel lost without abortion rights.
So we have witnessed that even the baby brands in this United States have gone so off the deep end with this wokeism and ESG nonsense that they're promoting abortion when their clients are babies.
We're going to do the opposite thing.
We've just yesterday launched EveryLife.com.
We are a premium, high-quality diaper and wipes company that celebrates the miracle of every single innocent life.
No matter where you come from, no matter what you look like, socioeconomic status, race, background, every life is a miracle.
And we celebrate that with our high-quality diapers.
This is a part of this broader movement, Charlie, to create patriotic parallel options to some of the major incumbent brands.
And we're going to do this a whole lot more.
So we encourage consumers to join us and buckle up because it's going to be a wild ride.
You're doing a really great job, Michael.
But there's some, let's just say, dark forces that aren't really thrilled that Public Square is ascendant, that you guys are growing.
Can you speak to that a little bit, that there's some just people that aren't a big fan that all of a sudden there's a navigational tool of the patriot economy?
I'm seeing some things.
I'm hearing some whispers.
What's going on here, Michael?
You know, Charlie, it's interesting.
We yesterday announced very boldly that a core piece of our business is protect every innocent life.
And I don't think it's a coincidence that in the last 24 hours, since we've announced that, we've underwent quite a bit of spiritual warfare and quite a bit of opposition and antagonistic attacks from people that really want to thwart our course in our direction.
We are taking the company public right now at Public Square.
CLBR is the ticker of the SPAC that we're partnering with.
And we are closing next week, ringing the bell at the New York Stock Exchange on Thursday, July 20th, which is very exciting.
And we are excited, but we are experiencing quite a bit of pressure from a few institutional players that would like to see a decrease in our success.
And we're seeing a lot of pushback from certain media outlets that may not like the future that we're trying to create in this parallel economy.
And so our encouragement to consumers, to investors, to friends of the company, to people simply that are fans of the Patriot parallel economy, join us.
Join us at publicsq.com.
We would love it if consumers would rally around this patriotic economy that we're trying to build here.
And at the end of the day, Charlie, we know we're going to be victorious.
We know at the end of the day that we have a special call with this company to provide a solution that millions of Americans have hungered for.
And we know because we see it working every single day.
We hit a million consumer members on our platform faster than Twitter, Airbnb, or Spotify.
And we did it purely because of your listeners, because of shows like this, because of voices like yours that are rallying around this solution we're trying to bring to the market.
So our encouragement is, y'all, build this with us.
We need your help.
And you can do that at publicsq.com.
Yeah, public square is one of the most important things happening in the country.
It's publicsq.com.
And, you know, we talk about the consumer side of it, but for every entrepreneur out there, you will maximize and expand your business if you are on public square.
Because so if you're an if you're a business owner, you should sign up and join the business directory at publicsq.com.
That is publicsq.com.
Shop your values locally and online, small businesses you can trust.
And so Michael, kind of give more understanding here of just the, you've only been around for a year.
It's been one year.
It's been this explosion.
And this just interest is beyond comprehension.
You're going to be here with our 6,000 people at our Turning Point Action Conference.
It's truly a grassroots movement to defeat the woke economy and build a new economy that doesn't come without some sort of headwinds.
But Michael, just walk our audience through the last year and this remarkable journey that you've been on at Public Square.
Well, Charlie, we were nothing special.
We were a group of normal people that just cared enough to do something.
My wife and I were really frustrated.
Our team were really frustrated watching the direction this country has gone on in the last decade.
And we knew that ultimately, if we wanted to see lasting change, we had to take it beyond the ballot box.
We would have to go out into the public square.
We would have to engage with commerce because ultimately, if you want to see how a lot of decisions are made in society, you have to look at who profit.
And it's well past time for we the people to profit again.
For a decade plus, we have gotten the raw end of this deal.
We've had corrupt actors at the top levels of corporate America that prioritize the values of globalist stakeholders more than they do the American people.
And we could not do it anymore.
So we've created the largest network the nation's ever seen of small businesses and consumers that want to support America first, that want to prioritize the values found in the Constitution endowed by our creator that secure our liberty.
And ultimately, at the end of the day, the right types of businesses are prospering through this marketplace.
So we came out with that vision.
And our plea to consumers was we don't have the resources of Amazon.
We don't have the resources of Yelp yet.
But with the power of the people, we believe that we can overcome any of the pushback or opposition we may face.
Build this marketplace with us.
And now a year later, we're so grateful that that question, that request has been met in ways that I never could have imagined.
I mean, we have seen growth that I never could have anticipated.
We have seen consumers experiencing these testimonies of growth in their own communities that I never could have dreamed of.
And Charlie, we're just getting started.
So, with this going public deal, as we ring the bell of the New York Stock Exchange next Thursday, we know that it does not come without challenges, but our ask is the same that it was a year ago.
If you want a solution where you can know with blessed assurance that every dollar you spend is going to go to businesses that deserve your support because they're run by your community that love the country and the freedoms that we hold dear, build this with us.
We need your help.
We can't do this alone.
And at the end of the day, there are a lot of avenues to do that, whether you're a consumer, a business, and we're not going to ask you to pay any money to do it.
Free to join for a business and a consumer.
If you're tired of investing your money with companies that hate you, you also have an opportunity to invest with a company that likes you and is not going to prioritize DEI scores and ESG scores.
We're trying to fundamentally change the economy.
And Charlie, I'm excited to share that more with the guests at the action conference this weekend.
Let's play Cut 31, the new company by PublicSquare, EveryLife.com, PlayCut 31.
It's been one whole year since Roe v. Wade was overturned.
Which means they've been making abortion illegal all over the place.
So these are dark times.
These are dark times.
Dark times.
Dark times.
I'm now seriously considering going down the dangerous path of abstinence until marriage.
I find myself in this really bizarre state where I'm asking guys about things like their values and trustworthiness before sleeping with them.
Before a girl will have sex with me now, she's asking me all these dumb questions: like, do you love me?
And what happens if I get pregnant?
And do you have a job?
It's like the government is making me responsible for a bunch of stuff I shouldn't be responsible for, like my sex life and my children.
Why would I ever want to bring a child into a world like this?
A world in which it's illegal to kill children.
The overturning of Roe v. Wade did this to me.
The Supreme Court of the United States put this inside of my body.
That is actually live action, who you guys are supporting.
We'll play the Every Life clip in the next thing.
And it's a great clip.
I've said for a while that the abortion lobby wants to try to get rid of responsibility as a cornerstone American value.
They want you to be able to have all the pleasure you want with your responsibility, but just massacring 60 million babies in the process.
PlayCut 87, EveryLife.com.
While so many companies are promoting what is wrong, we choose to celebrate what is right.
Life.
Every miracle from God.
Boy and girl.
Black, tan, and white.
Planned and unplanned.
Gifted and special.
Every one of them is celebrated here.
That is every life.
We're changing diapers, changes lives.
Michael, this is going viral.
Tell us about it.
It's been 24 hours.
It's amazing.
Everylife.com.
And I just reiterate, Michael, how the diaper industry is pro-abortion.
When you told me this, it's just incredible.
Charlie, it's interesting.
Right as you were playing that, we just got a message.
This lovely mom just said, thank you so much for doing this.
We are almost done with diapers, but I will be canceling my Hello Bellow subscription and switching immediately.
Hello Bellow is one of the major incumbents in the diaper industry.
And to answer your question, they actually pay for their employees' abortion.
So Hello Bellow is one of many companies in the United States that will actually fund the termination of their employees' children when they are a baby company.
The absurdity of corporate America has reached an unconceivable height.
And unfortunately, it's sad that it's affected even the most vulnerable and the most innocent, which are baby brands that are focused on consumers that are in the womb and out of the womb that are equally deserving of rights and life and liberty.
And so we thought it was well past time to create a diaper brand that would actually embrace life and would embrace family and would support parents in need.
And so we've created Every Life, that ad you just saw.
It's been incredible to watch the testimonies flow in.
By the way, that video.
When you count the original source video, that's already gotten over a million views on Twitter with no paid promotion.
And then on top of that, all the different incredible influencers and leaders and community members that have shared it.
This video has been viewed well over two and a half million times.
It's pretty cool to witness.
And so clearly the message is resonating with people, Charlie.
And we're pretty happy after the first 24 hours.
We're seeing a lot of babies blessed and a lot of parents blessed by this new company endeavor.
It's just amazing what you guys are doing.
And the patriot economy is working.
We're seeing across the board, you know, these companies that are just going woke and ideological.
Michael, you're experiencing this somewhat.
Can you at least fill our audience in as we conclude this conversation how some companies, their primary mission now is not necessarily to make money, but it's to pursue an ideological agenda.
We always used to say, oh, the profit incentive is everything.
That is not true.
There is now an ideological incentive.
Final thoughts, Michael Seifert.
Well, our economy has become a finance economy where you basically will receive loans from financial institutions or favor from financial institutions.
And that's actually your barometer of success.
So it's not about just serving simple solutions to consumers and providing value to your shareholders anymore.
These companies believe it's about winning as much favor with Jamie Dimon and J.P. Morgan as they possibly can.
And in order to do that, you have to have astronomically high ESG and DEI scores.
So these companies get rewarded based upon how woke they are.
That's incredibly detrimental because nothing about ESG or DEI or affirmative action actually helps you create better products and provide more value to consumers.
None of it.
So what we're trying to shift the economy back toward, Charlie, is meritocracy, doing the right thing to your consumers and for your consumers.
And that should be all that matters.
Supporting your consumers, supporting your shareholders, and supporting this great country that we are blessed enough to be able to do business in.
And at Public Square, that's exactly what we're trying to do, both in our business as it's private and as we go public next week.
Michael Seifert, check it out, publicsq.com.
Keep your eye on the New York Stock Exchange, where Public Square is going to be listed.
It's really exciting.
And everylife.com diaper company.
We're going to have you on when you go public and you ring the bell.
We're going to have you on, Michael.
We're behind you 100%.
Thanks so much, Michael.
God bless you.
Thank you, Charlie.
Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
And like many of you, I'm a busy guy balancing family, show, travel, and TPUSA.
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With us now is Troy Nells.
Lots to talk about here.
Troy, we want to start talking.
Congressman Troy Nells is doing a great job.
Troy, I want to ask you about the Ray hearings.
What was your reaction to Christopher Wray's attitude, his smugness, and his lack of answers towards the representation of the sovereign, which is Congress?
Your thoughts, Congressman Nels.
Charlie, good to be with you.
We expected this.
We figured, Charlie, that he would, Director Wray would say, well, really can't talk about that because that's a personnel matter.
It's an ongoing personnel matter.
Same thing as it relates to investigations.
Can't talk, can't speak much about that because there's an active investigation.
That's the way out.
That was his way out.
But overall, I thought that we were up against that.
But I believe that the committee did a pretty good job trying to expose this administration, the DOJ, and the FBI for their violating not only the First Amendment, but the Fourth Amendment as it relates to FISA and everything else.
So I thought we did a pretty good job the other day with Director Christopher Wray.
I want to play cut 83.
This is you grilling Christopher Wray.
Play cut 83.
Mr. Ray, you have arrested hundreds of people related to January 6th.
There is very little difference between the actions of Ray Epps and Brandon Stritka that day, but yet Stritka was arrested and Epps wasn't.
Now look into the camera, sir, when you answer my next question.
Are you going to arrest Mr. Epps, yes or no?
I'm not going to engage here in a discussion about individual people who are or are not.
I get a commitment.
You just watched the video, and it appears to me you are protecting this guy.
I strongly recommend you get your house back in order.
So, Congressman, are we going to see real movement to defund major aspects of the FBI?
Well, I'm glad that you played that.
I played a 42-second clip of Ray Epps.
I mean, everybody knows who Ray Epps is, right?
I mean, he was there tonight prior saying go into the Capitol.
He was there the day of going to the Capitol.
And I showed the director with this 42-second video of Mr. Ray Epps being at the front line when they breached the first barricade.
And then I bring up Brandon Strecker.
He was a great American.
He was arrested that day.
Never went into the Capitol, never assaulted anybody.
But yet Strecka gets arrested and Ray Epps doesn't.
And you wonder why the American people think that Mr. Ray Epps was a fatter in working with the government, some government agency.
So now, do we need to defund the FBI?
I don't think we need to defund the FBI.
I mean, I am a former law enforcement officer, spent eight years as a county sheriff in a big county in Texas.
I think the average day man and woman that is out there trying to protect our country, looking at child predators and going after MS-13 gay members, I think they truly want to serve their community.
But what we got to do is we've got to gut the leadership.
We've got to gut the leadership and then get new leadership and then go in there and change policy.
That's what we need to do.
And the only way to truly do that is we need to get Donald Trump back in the White House.
I completely and totally agree with that.
So, Congressman, I want to talk to you about Ukraine.
I think it's against America's national security interests to continue to pump hundreds of billions of dollars into a family dispute and a border conflict 5,000 miles away when none of our leaders can specifically define what the heck that we are doing here and what are we involved in or for what purpose.
Congressman, are you starting to see some of your colleagues start to think differently about Ukraine?
Or is there still enthusiastic cheerleading to get us closer to a kinetic war with Russia?
No, Charlie, I think that there are more members in the House that are starting to ask serious questions about Ukraine.
I think I was one of the maybe 50 or 55 or so that did not vote for the initial $40 billion.
The initial $40 billion, I said no.
This administration still doesn't have a strategy into the Ukraine.
So there was an amendment out there that said no more funding for Ukraine until this administration can define and let the American people know what their strategy is.
But that amendment was defeated, sadly.
But the point is, I've never given a nickel to Ukraine.
If there is legislation out there that talks about giving the money to Ukraine, I can't do it because there is no strategy.
We're up to $110 billion.
Charlie, $110 billion.
That money could be spent here helping our southern border and helping all the issues that we have in our country.
But we're giving it to the Ukraine.
We're going to end up rebuilding that country, too.
This is just the beginning.
We're going to end up rebuilding that country.
Shameful.
The American people deserve better.
We need those resources back here at home.
And there is no end game there.
And those that say that Ukraine is going to win this thing, oh, no, no, no, no.
I spent 22 years in the military.
I have a little bit of experience.
We're not winning that.
We're not winning that over there.
We're just not.
And Zelensky is going to walk out of this a billionaire.
You watch.
He'll leave it a billionaire.
Oh, that's really smart.
I totally agree.
Zelensky will be a Zuckerberg, not that rich, but he'll be rich.
He'll be a Reid Hoffman type.
And the American Treasury will be depleted in a black hole.
We're $30 trillion in debt.
So, Congressman, I have a question.
I know this is a simple question constitutionally.
Why has there not been a congressional declaration of war?
We are at war against Russia.
Can you force that vote?
Is there any appetite to actually, I don't know, read and follow the Constitution?
Republicans are always lecturing their voters about how much they love the Constitution.
Why haven't we voted on a declaration of war?
I believe there was some legislation in this NDAA markup over the week that we had here with an amendment, and I believe that was defeated as well.
So you're right.
I think that this administration should seek Congress support and get this declaration of war, but that's not what they want.
This Biden administration, listen, Joe Biden is over there.
He's taking pictures with this guy.
He lets Zelensky know: hey, listen, whatever you need, we're never leaving you.
There's an open checkbook.
There's an open checkbook.
So now the American people are going to be paying for this thing, and there's no end game in sight.
It's just ridiculous.
And if you look at Zelensky, if you really want to end this thing, and I'll say this to you, Joe Biden, if you really want to end this war in Ukraine, all you have to do is call Donald Trump and he'll call Vladimir.
I think that's the way to end it, because trust me, everybody knows he never went into Ukraine.
Putin never went into Ukraine under Donald J. Trump.
But this guy's exploiting the weakness that we have with Joe Biden.
So I think if you want to end it, but the sad part about it is, right now, Zelensky, I think he is saying if we end this thing, we want Crimea back.
We want all the territory that they took since this started, what, 15 months ago, but we want Crimea back.
That's never going to happen.
Putin's never given Crimea back, and we could be at this thing for years to come.
And we will be, largely thanks to establishment neoconservative Republicans like Mike Pence, Play Cut 122.
To give the Ukrainian military the resources that they need to repel the Russian invasion and restore their sovereignty.
May I ask?
Closing thoughts here.
Ray Epps looks like he will be charged, Congressman.
Final thoughts on that, follow up your discussion with Christopher Wray.
Yeah, I heard about that.
I said that I guess his attorney, Mr. Epps' attorney, said that he could be arrested any day by the FBI.
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I don't want to take credit for that, but it's just common sense and logic.
And I told the FBI director, I said, you arrested other people for doing somewhat the same thing that we have, Mr. Ray Epps, on video, and you haven't touched that guy.
You removed him from number 16 of the FBI most wanted.
You took him off.
And you wonder why the American people don't have faith and confidence and can trust this government.
We can't trust the FBI.
They've weaponized it to go against the American people and our federal government as a whole, the way they're censoring speech.
Thank goodness.
God bless that federal judge in Louisiana for coming out with his report on July 4th that exposes this administration, the FBI and other agencies for censoring people and violating our First Amendment.
What a great judge there.
And we just need to let the American people know that it is the conservative, it is the Republican Party that wants to protect our Constitution, your First Amendment, your Fourth Amendment rights.
It's not the left.
They want to take it from you.
We need to get the White House back in 2024.
And that person is Donald J. Trump.
God bless you, Charlie.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks, Troy.
Appreciate it.
Congressman Nell is doing a great job.
Thanks so much.
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Mike Pence is live on stage with Tucker Carlson.
You know, it's hilarious.
Mike Pence said no to come to our event.
Nikki Haley said no to come to our event.
Tim Scott, they probably thought that going to Iowa was going to be an easier event for them.
Like, oh, I'm going to go to Iowa and it will be easier for me because Charlie's event will be really hostile.
Yeah, but you guys decided to sit down with Tucker Carlson.
Play Cut 125, Tucker Carlson, Mike Pence.
Support the arrests of Christians for having different views.
Well, what I can tell you is, I asked the Christian leader in Kiev if that was in fact happening, and he assured me that it was not.
People were not being persecuted for their religious beliefs.
Now, he said, let me take a break here.
I know we disagree on this strongly, but I respect your right to your opinion on Ukraine, and I trust you'll respect mine.
Look, I've been to Ukraine now twice.
My wife and I traveled into Ukraine a month after the initiative.
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Yeah, so Mike Pence has been to Ukraine more than East Palestine.
That's what he's telling you.
How many times has Mike Pence gone to the border in the last couple months?
Maybe.
I mean, maybe a lot.
I don't know.
Maybe Mike Pence visits the border more than Ukraine.
I don't know.
It's a good question.
So Mike Pence asks some shill of the Ukrainian government: hey, are Christians being persecuted?
No, Christians being persecuted.
It doesn't happen.
No persecution.
Okay, and that's your authority figure, Pence?
You're shutting down Russian Orthodox churches.
It's well known.
It's well documented.
It's well reported.
So Mike Pence said, and we don't have the clip, I'll just tell you, Mike Pence said, it is in America's national security interest that if we do not stop Putin in Ukraine, he will not stop to then go to a NATO country.
So what he's saying is that Russia would declare war in America.
That is insane.
So we must fight them and repel them from a territory that wants to be under them.
This is delusional by Mike Pence.
This is neocon, warmongering, scare-inducing happy talk.
They want to liberate Crimea.
We will have some involvement in this conflict of Russia for the next decade or 20 years.
We just shift theaters.
You go from Vietnam, then you go to Iraq, then you go to Afghanistan, then you go to Ukraine.
You know, since the year I have been born, 1993, I think there's been three or four years I've been alive where America has not been at war.
We are a perpetually at-war country.
Not healthy, everybody.
We have a $30 trillion debt, 110,000 people suffering of drug overdoses.
We're getting poor.
We have hyperinflation.
Our infrastructure is falling apart.
Our schools are a joke.
We're perverting our kids.
We're grooming our kids.
Our economy is in a fragile place.
And we have to worry about foreign abstractions abroad because, oh, by the way, Vladimir Putin might march across the entire country of Ukraine and then he'd say, I know I can barely conquer eastern Ukraine, but now I'm going to go for Warsaw.
Not everybody is Hitler, man.
Hitler was extraordinarily lucky.
Study your World War II history.
The French army was larger than Hitler's army.
Hitler was a psychopath who just happened to roll the dice and got snake eyes five times in a row.
It's a historical fact.
Hitler was lucky and nuts in his conquering of Europe.
And by the way, Hitler was objectively had a stronger army than Putin does.
This is objectively true.
More technology, better trained troops, and weaker opponents.
So Mike Pence says that your son or daughter might have to go fight Russia because if we don't, we might have to go fight Russia.
We might have to go fight, we have to go fight Russia, otherwise we might have to go fight Russia.
This is the rationale of people that are purchased.
This is not the rationale of people that are objective deep thinkers.
Look at things fairly and openly and honestly.
Not every conflict or core around the world is our priority.
It shouldn't be at all.
Our country's fallen apart.
Why is Ukraine a priority?
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us your thoughts.
As always, freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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