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July 11, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Jim Caviezel Vs Hollywood
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Freedom at CharlieKirk.com 00:02:11
Hey everybody, today's the Charlie Kirk Show.
Wow, what a conversation with Jim Caviesel from Sound of Freedom.
It's very powerful.
Text this episode to your friends, talk about child sex trafficking, all sorts of different things.
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The second part of this episode, I talk about somebody who does not want to show up to our event this weekend at the Turning Point Action Conference, tpaction.com, tpaction.com.
Jim Caviezel is our lead.
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Here we go.
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Joining us now is Jim Caviesel, who is really going viral in a lot of different ways with the incredibly important, powerful film Sound of Freedom.
Jim, thank you so much for making time to join the program.
Great to be here, Charlie.
And I'm grateful to you for all the tremendous work you've done and really living your faith out because we're at a point here where if the Christians don't stand up, our republic is finished.
I totally agree.
Faith Behind the Film 00:14:13
And so, first, talk about your personal faith and how that played a role in your decision to want to do this film.
Well, look, it's I never talked about this for a long time publicly, but at this point, I think the gloves have to come off.
I was in a movie theater when I was probably 19 years old.
I'm probably 14, where I reached a point where I really considered, you know, taking my own life.
And I was running on a frontage road barefoot.
And I ran about eight miles and my feet were all cut up.
I remember just so angry in my heart.
It was like, you can't hurt me, kind of a thing.
And I just cried out to God to help me, you know.
And I was in a movie theater and that loving God came to me and I felt like I was the only child this God had.
And if I had done that, it would have been a sad moment because our Lord would have probably showed me what he had for me and that I was going to play his son.
So I was, and I tell that to people, especially now, because the kids are, you know, it's like five times worse of suicides now of young people.
It's nothing.
We've given them nothing, no God in schools, nothing.
But I'm not talking about, I'm talking about a Christian God, Jesus God.
And there's nowhere them to find it.
And so long story short, he asked me to become an actor.
And I'd asked for, I was given a purpose.
And I thought, I don't know how to do that.
But if I didn't believe in myself, but I believed in him.
And I believe if he said I could do something, I could do it.
And so I came to the industry and it was rough, you know, 10 years, but he protected me.
And it was a hard route to take.
And it's never changed.
It's still really hard, but it's a purpose, though.
And like that book, The Purpose-Driven Life, you know, these are what the saints are, you know, people that live in a purpose.
And it's better than any money or cash or wealth, power.
That's something deep inside, a love that I've was just would die for.
And on the 33rd year of my life, the initials of JC, Mel Gibson, asked me to play Jesus in this film.
And I tell people this because it was really important because there are a lot of people in the industry that called me and told me not to do the movie.
And I read the script.
It was everything in the movie was in the Gospels.
And I began to understand that they don't like those gospels.
They don't like it.
But nonetheless, I really didn't have anywhere else to go other than to go to him because that's the only place I know.
So we did the movie.
So Jim, we share a common faith in Jesus Christ and in ultimate truth and in the promise of John 10, 10, juxtaposed of what the enemy wishes to do, lie, steal, and destroy.
And Christ comes to give life and life more abundantly.
What is it about Hollywood where they get so up in arms about the issue of child sex trafficking?
I would have thought, if I was just kind of uninitiated in this space, that Hollywood would at least be neutral on your film.
Why are they so opposed, so frantic in antagonizing sound of freedom?
What's going on here?
Well, I'll give you an example, Charlie.
We were about four and a half years ago, four years ago, we showed a movie, and this has been a five-year deal.
And they've done everything they could to stop it, as they did this with the Passion of the Christ.
About four years ago, we showed it in a theater.
There was like five viewings.
And in each viewing, they were always talking during this one part, the audience.
And I thought, maybe there's something wrong.
I'd never seen that before.
And about 1,500 people at the end, I spoke to them and I asked them, you know, what that was.
And they all yelled out, Epstein Island.
And then I said, okay, now I understand.
We're shining a light on something they don't want shined on.
And, you know, this has been around for a long, long time.
Biblically, it's been around what they did to children during the time of Moses and again during the time of Jesus.
And what we've been doing now.
27 days now, they're going to be able to kill a baby 27 days after they're born.
Why would you kill a baby?
27, why would you kill a baby anyway?
But why 27 days?
Now they always talk about the mother's uh right to choose the mother uh, in case of the mother's life's in danger.
So now think about it, baby's next to her doctor walks in, puts a sword through the child, kills it.
Does the mother become healthy because of that how?
How does that work?
Um and uh, um.
And then I I talked to Tim Ballard immensely about organ harvesting.
This is this, trafficking is just the beginning of this whole thing.
It's a, it's an eight armed octopus and if you take just trafficking out it, that arm will grow back.
You have to take the head.
And we're talking grooming, we're talking about pornography, because pornography, uh procures more pedophiles, and then you, it's a non-stop cycle.
So this is a culture that has to be reawakened and I don't know um and i've said this many times more people now are more afraid of the devil.
Christians i'm talking about Christians now more afraid of the devil than they are of God.
I look to the biblical uh Paul, Saint Paul.
I look to saint John the Baptist.
Both got their head taken off.
I, that's okay with me.
Paul says, to live as Christ, to die is gain.
Well, I know i'm going to die someday and everything that I have on this earth, the Role X watch that I have, it's not going to float up into the heavens, it's all junk up there.
I know one day i'm going to be there in front of that loving god and I, you know, i'm going to give everything I have for him.
Isn't that what we're supposed to do?
Or are we just supposed to sit back and stay on the fence?
And, as my friend says, the devil owns that fence.
We have to.
We lukewarm Christianity.
This is crazy.
That's not Christianity.
And so we're the ones that have to lead, because it has to come from the people, and it has to come from a spirit where we're fearless and when love comes in the heart to such a level that you would die for it.
But wouldn't you die for your children at least?
Maybe you wouldn't die for your republic, you wouldn't die for your country?
Okay fine, but what about your children?
Would you?
Would you just hand them over?
And so America right now, and the world?
When they see this, they're being reawakened, because the media has lied too many times, and this is the the, the strand that broke the camel's back.
That's what's.
That's what you're seeing right now.
The media is trying to smear.
You smear the film, call it Q Anon Adjacent, Seducing America all that nonsense.
That is nothing more than the enemy mobilizing unclean spirits, principalities of darkness against the light.
You are fulfilling Ephesians 5 11 have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
Jim, can you just give us a little bit of a window from your experience and your understanding?
How widespread is child sex trafficking in Hollywood?
That one i'll talk about in the future.
That, that one.
That's a.
It's a good question.
It's there.
I'll talk about it more in the future.
My stuff came more from the agents and the guys that i've worked with and uh, screaming of children is Well, there's something in me that says that ain't going to happen on my watch because I have a father that's inside my heart, and I'll go after these bastards.
And it's okay to be that, and that's why the line's in there.
Better a millstone being hung around their necks that they be cast into the sea that they should ever hurt one of these little ones.
That's what's coming for them.
It's going to be a wrath on them.
There will be no forgiveness because this is the rejection of the Holy Spirit.
It's the only unforgivable sin.
You shall not blasphemy the Holy Spirit.
Angel.com/slash Jim is the website.
And if you want evidence that we are in a spiritual war, just look at the irrational response that the media is administering for a film that should be received with agreement, celebration, and at the very least, neutrality.
But why does the media have to send their attack dogs?
Not one outlet, by the way, Rolling Stone, Guardian, one after the other, after the other.
Really makes you wonder what the heck they're doing in their personal lives, what they're aware of, what they're defending.
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We are screening Sound of Freedom for all attendees at the Turning Point Action Conference this weekend to try to get as much visibility around this powerful film, tpaction.com.
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Continue your thought.
I was talking about the media and they're ignoring the stories.
I'll give you a perfect example.
On April 26th, Ms. Rodas gave sworn testimony.
And I've used this many times.
85,000 children have crossed the border and disappeared.
That's sworn testimony.
That's also evidence that has been submitted.
And Tim, I talked to Tim, and he says, actually, much bigger than this.
But anyway, next day, I see, I think that's newsworthy.
And the next day in the news, nothing, absolutely nothing.
And so, but we've seen this over and over again in the media.
You said ivermectin is bad.
That's listed under the NIH.
Hydroxychloroquine is bad for us.
That's listed under the NIH.
Adrenochrome, that's not true.
It's C9H9NO3.
This is a chemical compound that is absolutely, this has been around in modern science since the 1930s.
You can actually, there's a synthetic form and there's a regular natural form, which is caused by torturing little kids to get their adrenaline up, essentially, and then extracting it from them.
When you sit and meet, and so I brought this up a few years ago, and all of a sudden I was attacked by every media.
Look it up.
It's there.
They absolutely went after me.
And the next day, I never heard from my agents, my agency for 14 months.
My lawyers let me go.
My agency never called me after that, and essentially it was done.
And so when we go and do movies like this, you spend a great deal of time with agents working with them.
I didn't realize the connection, though, to my industry and to Epstein Island and all of that.
But obviously, there is.
And I couldn't sleep for two years after doing that movie.
Two years in the middle of the night, horrible nightmares.
QAnon and Agency Fallout 00:03:20
Something hard that happens to you in your life, you can either fade away or turn and fight.
And I've decided to fight back because those precious children are God and I'd give my life for God.
I'm talking about the Jesus Christ God.
Okay.
This, the QAnon stuff, Jim's QAnon.
Well, let's look into that because that could be really evil.
Somewhere in Congress, they said QAnon is racist.
Okay.
We don't like that, right?
But so is the Ku Klutz Klan.
And that's another letter.
It's a K.
We don't like the letter Q.
We don't like the letter K, but they don't go after the letter K.
And I started looking into Senator Byrd, and he was a grand wizard.
Hillary Clinton's tie to him and Joe Biden's tie to him.
Understand, this is a Ku Klutz Klan now.
And there is a lot of data that can prove that the Ku Klutz Klan is an evil organization.
And so are the Nazis.
One could say that they're also racist, but they don't go after those.
Only the QAnon.
Now, if I, by way of analogy, if I were the Apostle Saul and I'm a Pharisee, I'm going to go after the Christians.
I'm going to take them down.
Now, remove Christians, and let's make it QAnon.
I'm going to destroy them because the Romans told me they're evil.
I'm going to destroy them because my own church staff, my Pharisee, fellow Pharisees said evil.
I'm going to take them out.
And then you find out it's not QAnon, it's Q and Anons.
And Q puts out a question, and you're not allowed to ask questions anymore.
Not allowed to.
And the Anons, they look it all up and they start looking and investigating this stuff.
I never knew about them while I was doing this movie, Sound of Freedom, has nothing to do with our film.
But it's really interesting that they pointed to this immediately and said, that guy's one of them.
He's bad.
I'll tell you the rest after that.
Jim, we have to have you back soon.
I'm sorry, we're out of time.
Angel.com slash Jim.
Jim, thank you for your courage and your willingness to speak out.
You are in the middle of the spiritual war, and we're praying for you and keep your spiritual disciplines on the top of your list because the enemy is not happy with what you're exposing.
Jim, thank you so much.
Thank you.
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In the last 24 hours, there's been some news that we are in the center of, and it plays into a lot of other dynamics here.
So this weekend, we have our Turning Point Action Conference.
The conference is the tip of the spear.
We anticipate anywhere between 5,500 to 6,000 people in attendance.
Well, over 300 pastors will be in attendance.
Over 2,000 precinct committeemen will be in attendance.
We have 2,000 to 3,000 of our student activists that will be in attendance.
Hundreds of our top donors will be in attendance and millions of people online, not to mention hundreds of social media influencers and ambassadors.
Now, hosting this event, you learn a lot about different presidential campaigns, different strategies.
And yes, I am in support of President Donald Trump in 2024.
Great president, good friend.
I want to become president again.
Hosting this event, we understand that there's a Republican primary going on.
So our team made, I believe, the right decision to open up and invite every single candidate running for the presidency.
Even Bobby Kennedy.
And I said, hey, you want to come?
Hey, Joe Biden, you want to come?
Our audience would love to give you some feedback.
Marianne Williamson, you want to come give a speech?
Sure, why not?
And so we opened it up.
Invites to Chris Christie, invites to Mike Pence, invites to Nikki Haley.
And to Donald Trump's credit, called up President Trump a couple months ago.
He said, I'll be there.
Yes, sir.
And he said, Charlie, I have such respect for Turning Point.
He said, I know the place that Turning Point plays in the movement.
He said, I know how powerful Turning Point is.
And he says, I'm there.
You let me know, clear my schedule.
I'm there for you.
Vivek Ramaswamy, one text message, one commitment.
Big props to him.
He said, Charlie, whatever you need, I'm there.
Dan Bongino, one text message, I'll be there.
Steve Bannon, one text message, I'll be there.
Tucker Carlson, I'll be there.
Megan Kelly, I'll be there.
JD Vance, I'll be there.
Josh Hawley, I'll be there.
Ted Cruz, I'll be there.
Matt Gates, Ana Paulina, Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Bober, Mike Lindell, Harmeet Dylan.
Their responses were really humbling, honestly.
Of Charlie, we wouldn't miss it for the world.
We understand what Turning Point represents.
We understand that you guys are even more than a youth organization now.
In some ways, you are on the tip of the spear.
You are doing the work to save the country.
And I wish I could take credit for it, but the credit goes to the Lord, goes to the team, goes to the 280,000 grassroots donors that we now have at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
And so we sent out these invites.
And again, we have a lot of strong opinions on this show, and sometimes it turns some people off.
But I'll be very honest, I have an immense amount of respect for Governor Asa Hutchinson from Arkansas.
I've been kind of critical of him.
He committed.
He's coming to our event.
And I'm going to tell the audience to allow every single speaker to have, you know, to hear their case.
Mayor Suarez from Miami is coming to make his case.
And so we've are finally kind of hearing back of the final decisions of what campaigns are going to show up to what is the largest event of the summer.
Again, this is not, I think some campaigns like, oh, it's just a bunch of people in a room.
Even if it was a bunch of people in the room, you shouldn't discount that.
But these are your super activists.
These are thousands of precinct committeemen, state party chairs, major donors.
We got several billionaires showing up because I guess that's something they really care about.
Not to mention the media presence.
I mean, Andrew has done an amazing job.
We have so much media.
We don't have enough space with the amount of cameras and the amount of just real estate that's being taken up for interviews and one-offs, not to mention the hundreds of social media ambassadors, tons of grassroots.
And so you play this out.
We got Breitbart, Daily Caller, and yeah, we got CNN.
We got Politico.
We got NPR.
We got Washington Post, New York Times, Newsmax, RSBN, RAV, CBS Pool Feed, Epic Times.
We got Victory News.
I mean, you add it.
It's no exaggeration.
Tens of millions of eyeballs will be on this event.
And so you're probably saying, okay, Charlie, we got this.
Hear me out.
It's very important.
So Nikki Haley declined our invite.
Okay.
Hope she reconsiders.
She probably won't.
Mike Pence declined our invite.
Tim Scott declined our invite.
Chris Christie hasn't got back to us.
I don't think there's a working email on his website.
Let me think who else.
Doug Bergam, I think, is considering coming.
I hope he comes.
And I'm going to say this as factually and as objectively as I can.
You cannot win the Republican primary without winning this audience and winning over this room, period.
The amount of grassroots influencers, these people are involved 24-7 in the movement, and they pay attention.
President Trump, to his great credit, he knew that immediately.
Yes, I'll be there.
These are the people that make the party work.
They show up.
They collect signatures.
They donate.
They host events.
They do pressure campaigns against certain candidates or elected officials.
In fact, we have long, long, long lists of other candidates that want to show up that are running for dog catcher to mayor, running for this and that.
We got some big announcements too of people that are primarying that'll be there.
Okay, so we send out all these invites.
And I want to just say this by saying I have a great deal of respect for Governor DeSantis.
I think he's America's greatest governor.
I think he's done a wonderful job.
And I refuse to attack him or do any of that stuff.
I don't do that.
I think he's been an excellent governor, and I'm going to stand by that because it's true.
I also think it's a mistake.
He has declined our invite in a rather perplexing way.
I don't understand it.
It's in his home state.
It's in Palm Beach.
And I think this is in a ginormous missed opportunity for him.
His team was strongly considering it, and they declined.
They said, I don't really know what they said, but he's not coming.
And I can't quite figure out.
They said he has other commitments.
Okay.
What could be more important than that?
Do you want to win the nomination or not?
Imagine if he would have had an opposite view.
Imagine if he would have been early to commit in his home state and he would have said, you know what?
I'm going to host a meet and greet across the street and we're going to have all of our influencers show up and we're going to compete at the Turning Point Action Conference, which is labeled by the media as being a MAGA group.
Fine, sure.
And we're going to go right into the place that we need to win most.
You know, there are some people externally that are saying, oh, you know, DeSantis is afraid of being booed or whatever.
First of all, I wouldn't put up with that.
I've said before, I'm going to tell the audience to be respectful.
Number two, you got to face the audience and win them over.
You have a great record of accomplishment.
Go into there.
This is a question of dominance.
And by the way, Trump got booed a lot in 2015 or 16.
Address it.
Say, hold on, hold on.
Come on.
Let me do my record.
Be an alpha.
Face it.
Don't run away from it.
I get booed all the time on a college campus.
You could turn it to your advantage.
You could turn it to a win.
You can engage and be like, come on, guys, can I get a word in edge-wise?
Engage, make lively discussion with it.
Don't take yourself so seriously.
You got to win these people over.
Be dominant.
You know what he could have done?
He could have said, let's take questions.
Could you imagine?
He could have come up and said, let's open up the mic one by one.
What's your objection?
What do you think you know about me?
Let's talk about it.
Could you imagine the virality?
At the Turning Point Action Conference, Governor DeSantis throws away his speech, says, Let's do an open mic.
Your question.
And if you, the fact their team has not done this shows that they're either afraid of the grassroots or they don't have respect for the grassroots.
You're not going to win the nomination if you don't win these folks over.
Period.
There's no way through it.
You know, I was speaking to President Trump the other day and I said, what do you have in mind for this speech?
He's like, eh, whatever.
Wanted to do questions, wanted an interview.
He's like, let's lean in.
I kind of told him, I was like, Mr. President, I have a lot of respect.
It's like, it's kind of a beast.
It's like, throw it at me.
That's awfully refreshing.
The guy that goes into CNN, the guy that goes into MSNBC, I'm learning a lot through this, and I am disappointed.
I'm disappointed.
I think Ron DeSantis is a great governor, and I wish he was a good presidential candidate.
Some people say, well, Charlie, why would you want someone to be a good presidential candidate?
I want the conservative movement to pursue excellence.
I want our movement to be the best.
And when someone is not performing at their best, I get saddened and disappointed over it.
I want President Trump, Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence.
I want them to be running the best campaigns they can.
I think it makes us more prepared to beat the Democrats.
Just campaign malpractice of the advice that Ron DeSantis is getting.
Someone says, Charlie, he's not attending because Donald Trump is attending.
Yeah, that's a great way to win the nomination.
I'm not going to show up to any events that Donald Trump shows up to.
Yeah, that's really sustainable.
The guy that I'm down 60 points in the polls to, it should be the opposite.
It should be, I'm going to host a meet and greet.
I'm going to do two hours of interviews with all the media out there.
I'm going to do selfies.
I'm going to have a social media influencer.
I'm going to do a thing across the street.
I'm going to do, there's all out.
What an unbelievable missed opportunity.
Play cut two.
We've got a long way to go.
I'm looking forward to being able to participate in the debates, but this is not something that, you know, I ever expected to just snap fingers and all of a sudden, you know, you win seven months before anyone happens.
You got to earn it and you got to work.
You know, earn is one of my favorite words in the English language.
I'm perplexed because I actually think Governor DeSantis probably deep down would want to do this event.
But somebody said otherwise.
There's now a blitzkrieg of anti-Trump advertisements that are being run.
So I guess the strategy is don't show up to the grassroots.
Don't talk to the actual workers.
Don't talk to the influencers.
Instead, let's just hope that this deluge of money is going to come in.
So this is a new advertisement that is going to be spent against.
So this primary is going to become bloody and expensive, $1.5 billion primary.
This is a new advertisement that is running of a PAC that is linked to Club for Growth funding $3.6 million advertisement campaign to try to stop President Trump.
Play cut 37.
I'm not really a fan of what's going on right now.
I mean, the Democrats are just unbelievable.
It's a mess.
It's a hot mess.
I love Donald Trump.
I love what he did.
Once he got in, I thought it was a breath of fresh air.
He was attacked all the time, and it seemed like, you know, it just seemed non-stop.
The drama, it affected my family.
I mean, you know, with my own sister, I didn't get invited to her Thanksgiving after a while.
He's got so many distractions.
The constant fighting something every day.
And I'm not sure he can focus on moving the country forward.
The election is really important because we're going in the wrong direction.
I mean, we definitely need somebody that can freaking win.
They could probably lose that bet if you voted for Trump.
You want somebody as smart who actually knows how to build teams to solve issues, focus on the issues that really need to be fixed.
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Just let me just understand that this guy's not going to vote for Trump because he got disinvited to his neurotic, weird liberal sister's home for Thanksgiving.
Okay, so the country's falling apart, and I'm going to go pursue other options because I want my incredibly intolerant left-wing sister to invite me over again.
And what a low-energy, low-testosterone ad.
It's like this guy is like sitting on his porch, like meandering, not making any sense at all.
Oh, I just think he has a lot of baggage, and I don't know.
And I just want to kind of win.
Oh, he's won before.
So that $1.5 billion is going to be spent on that.
That nonsense.
Tens of millions of people are going to be watching our summit this weekend.
I think the Governor DeSantis campaign team vastly underestimates how many eyeballs we're able to generate.
I've received at least 20 text messages from people because now the absence is now the story.
He even could have come and just gave a normal speech in a woodman.
Now him not showing up, people are saying, where is he?
It's his home state.
Where is he?
It's his home state.
He's now created a story where there was no story.
Receiving a lot of questions.
Got multi-billionaires texting me.
Why is he not showing up?
I thought that's where woke goes to die.
Well, I guess you got to show up.
He says you have to earn it.
You have to work.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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