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June 22, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Don't Fight the FBI, Take It Over
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Durham Hearing Underwhelms 00:01:47
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The Durham hearing underwhelms.
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And we also ask the question, do you trust your institutions?
And if the answer is no, that is significant.
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Fighting for Campus Freedom 00:08:53
Yesterday was the hearing of John Durham.
For years, there was a lot of hope put into the Durham investigation.
It was always out there.
It was kind of on the edges.
You'd hear a little bit of reports.
Three years ago in the summer of 2020, we saw him put an indictment forward against Klein Smith, the FBI agent who lied.
Certain people would say, oh, he's putting together kind of a major crime syndicate prosecution.
What exactly was he investigating?
Well, he had the role, the task, or the duty to investigate the investigators.
How many times have we heard in the nauseating fashion over and over and over again, no one is above the law?
No one is above the law.
Of course, we agree with that.
As the great one Mark Levin said, there is no law when it comes to being on the right versus the left.
It's not even a double standard of justice.
There's a multi-tiered standard of justice that if you have the right politics, you could basically do whatever you want.
Look at Hunter Biden's plea deal this week versus Donald Trump's 37-count indictment.
What I think animates the conservative base that is misunderstood by the media, intentionally misunderstood, is that there is a yearning for justice.
We do not trust the FBI.
Senator Ron Johnson was our program yesterday saying he does not trust the FBI.
We do not trust the Department of Justice.
We do not trust the CIA.
We do not trust major portions of our government.
And that power is abused for political purposes.
Peter Strzokstroke Smirk, Lisa Page, Andrew McCabe, and James Comey had a plan.
Now, mind you, the plan was a little bit sloppy.
It was the built-in assumption that Hillary Clinton was going to win the presidency.
Hillary Clinton was going to easily become president.
And in that text message that just tells you so much, Lisa Page wrote to her adulterous lover, Peter Strzzok, Trump is not going to become president, is he?
And he says, no.
No, he won't.
We won't let that happen.
Now, that's an FBI agent in charge of the counterterrorism counterintelligence unit of the FBI.
This is not some sort of desk worker.
It's not some sort of bureaucrat who just shuffles papers all day long.
This is a guy with real power.
And of course, Crossfire Hurricane emerged, but it was a little weak.
Hillary Clinton would pay for the dossier as a, I believe, illegally funded piece of political research.
But Donald Trump still won.
But then the administrative state, the deep state, the Leviathan, got into full gear.
The Russia nonsense was used as a way to derail the populist nationalist agenda out of the gate.
Paul Ryan was involved.
Senate leadership was involved.
They had to slow this down.
There's no way we could actually have a president totally close the border, change our immigration to respect and represent middle-class Americans, put true tariffs on China, rebuild the industrial base in the country.
We got to slow that down, man.
And the way they slowed down the Trump presidency, the way they distracted him from terrifying Jeff Sessions to intimidating so many conservatives was through this Russia thing.
And then Bob Mueller came out of nowhere to go do his duty with Andrew Weissman as the top attack dog of the Mueller investigation.
The special counsel never should have been approved by the Republican Congress, but it all started back when Peter Strzzok said, no, we won't let that happen.
And Peter Strzok was half right.
Yes, Donald Trump became president, but he was never able to fully govern as a president because of the Mueller investigation, the Russia lies, Adam Schiff, and we have some Adam Schiff news to share this hour.
But it's very obvious as the evidence started to emerge that the law enforcement agencies broke the law, but at the very least, they broke the public trust.
And you in the grassroots, ordinary Americans, plumbers, carpenters, teachers, grandparents, entrepreneurs, truck drivers, you see very clearly that if you break the law, if you don't pay your taxes, if you lie to the FBI, you're going to go to jail, especially if your politics are on the right.
And one of the biggest complaints in the conservative movement, which is a legitimate complaint, is why does the FBI never get held accountable?
Not with a book report that we call the Durham Report, not with some sort of largely boring congressional hearing, and we'll play some pieces of tape from it.
Why is it the very people who are tasked with enforcing the law when they act like criminals, are they never held accountable?
Here's a very simple question.
What was the last time an FBI agent had to go to prison instead of getting a CNN contract?
Yeah, some of them get fired.
They temporarily might lose their pension like Andy McCabe, but he gets it restored.
Peter Strzok is met with open arms at Georgetown.
He earns a salary from there.
Andy McCabe goes on CNN every day.
He gets contract from it.
So they get rewarded for what they do.
They get rewarded for weaponizing the government and going after political opponents and dissidents.
John Durham mentioned this in his hearing yesterday, Play Cut 56.
Several of the relevant FISA applications issued in the CrossFire investigation omitted references to what was clearly relevant and highly exculpatory information that should have been disclosed to the FISA court.
Multiple FBI personnel who signed or assisted in preparing renewal applications for that same FISA warren acknowledged that they did not believe that the target, Mr. Page, was a threat to national security, much less a knowing agent of a foreign power, which is what the law requires.
It appears from our investigation that the FBI leadership dismissed those concerns.
Now, there's a lot of detail in Durham's report, and some of it is very helpful to make the case against the administrative state.
But let's be honest, we are going to keep believing that the administrative state and the shadow government is against us until we see people like Peter Strzok treated in the same fashion as Lieutenant General Michael Flynn.
Remember Michael Flynn, he was a member of the government.
Within days, he was entrapped by Peter Strzok.
Peter Strzok broke all protocols.
And Michael Flynn said, hey, don't I need a lawyer for this?
Oh, no, That's probably illegal, the way that Peter Strzok handled it in the White House.
Forget the details of that.
You had Peter Strzok walk into the home of the executive branch days into the presidency.
I think it was like 10 days into the presidency.
And Peter Strzok said, oh, yeah, Strzok here with the FBI.
We just want to clear up some of your disclosure paper.
And Michael Flynn says, well, do I need a lawyer here?
And the answer to that, and remember the 302s, if I remember the number correctly, the 302 that Peter Strzzok filled out was incriminating.
It was a targeting of a current official of the executive branch of government.
And it was Michael Flynn who had to defend himself in court.
It was Michael Flynn who had to go through years of criminal targeting.
And the Department of Justice then admitted in the Michael Flynn case that the FBI mistakenly identified Michael Flynn in the Peter Strzzok notes.
The attorneys prosecuting former White House National Security Michael Flynn were forced to admit in Tuesday letter that Lynn's legal defense that the notes mistakenly identified him.
So we call this the two standard of justice, but it's even worse than that.
It's insulting.
And I'm not here to say that Durham is a bad guy or a good guy.
What I am going to say, and we're going to play more pieces of tape, is that this is awfully demoralizing when it comes to one of the most important elements of a civil society.
What is the old Superman phrase?
Truth, justice, and the American way.
Truth is under attack at every corner and every turn, and we do not have justice in this country.
Instead, we have a veneer where they have talking points.
No one is above the law.
If that's the case, then one of this gang of criminals, McCabe, Strzok, Paige, Comey, or one of them should be facing criminal prosecution instead.
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Can you guys get that Mike Pence clip from last week?
I'm not here.
I'm not going to dunk on Mike Pence too much again.
We already did that adequately last week, but I think it's very telling and it connects to a couple themes I want to tie together here that I don't think anybody else is going to do.
Chris Hayes, who I don't consider to be overly bright, had a very interesting, actually, believe it or not, piece of television with Brandy Zedrozny from NBC News.
We mentioned this yesterday, but I think it's worth repeating.
He said that the political divide in America has changed, that the right in America is a low trust movement of institutions, and the left is a high trust movement of institutions.
Now, mind you, that is a significant inversion.
Because when I grew up, it used to be that the right was defending the Bush administration or the Patriot Act, defending the government, because as conservatives, you felt as if you did not want to overly revolutionize things.
Now, isn't it interesting, though, that in the word conservative is you want to conserve, but conservatives are now the ones that don't trust the institutions.
And this is one of the things I'm trying to communicate publicly on this program for all of these unknowns that are running for president.
By the way, we have more people running for president.
We got this guy, Will Hurd.
I couldn't pick him in a lineup.
And I do this for a living.
He's running for president.
You got mayor of Miami Suarez is running for president.
And of course, Mike Pence.
But this is so interesting.
Because I know how you feel about the Department of Justice.
I know how you feel about the FBI.
You don't trust them.
In fact, you think that they're really rigged against you.
And you're right.
But Mike Pence does not believe that.
And I'm only using this as a piece of evidence to show that institutional uniparty Republicans are defending an institution that hates them.
Here's Mike Pence saying, well, we either trust the Justice Department or we don't, or the system of justice.
He's not reading the room.
He is not reading the Republican primary electorate.
We don't trust Strzok, Comey, any of these people.
In fact, have you seen the Durham report?
Yeah, it's an underwhelming book report in terms of prosecutions, but it's a smoking gun as far to say that, yeah, the law enforcement agencies, they're not even above the law.
There is no law when it comes to them.
They destroy their devices.
Remember the Mueller team?
The Mueller team, we weren't able to access all of the Mueller team's phones.
Why?
Because they accidentally put in the wrong password repeatedly, which then destroyed the device.
Remember Lois Lerner and all those missing emails?
These crooks get away with it time and time again.
But there is this hangover effect that, quite honestly, I find it's nauseating.
When one of our Republicans running for the presidency is telling us, well, it's either we trust our system of justice or we don't.
I do not.
PlayCut 83.
Let's presume you're fortunate enough to take oath of office January 2025, you become the next president of the United States.
Donald Trump is convicted of what I think you would agree are clearly, to a large degree, political-based charges.
Would you pardon him from those federal charges?
Well, first off, these are serious charges.
And as I said, I can't defend what's been alleged, but the president does deserve to make his defense.
And I take the pardon authority very seriously.
It's an enormously important power of someone in an executive position.
And I just think it's premature to have any conversation about that right now, guys.
Okay, so there's another clip that actually, that's bad, but the other one is even worse that we have where Mike Penn says, well, guys, we either trust our system of justice or we don't.
We don't.
We don't trust the system of justice that entrapped Michael Flynn and tried to destroy his life and his family's life, that went after Steve Bannon, that went after Roger Stone, that went after Paul Manafort, where Lois Lerner was never held accountable, where these dirty cops at the top levels of the FBI, and I could keep on mentioning their names, are not held accountable.
This is not a system of justice.
This is a crime syndicate that is covering up for themselves.
This is not an investigation.
This is a massive cover-up operation.
And the center right of this country, despite having the term conservative, actually wants to now revolutionize in a good way the instruments of government.
We do not want the FBI to continue as is.
And it's just so interesting to see.
And again, the media is so dishonest.
And Chris Hayes accidentally said something infinitely interesting.
Where growing up, liberals used to be the ones that said, we don't trust the Vietnam War, we don't trust the spying, we don't trust this.
Exposing the Crime Syndicate 00:05:27
Now they're the ones that wear FBI t-shirts at the gay bar in Georgetown.
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So I have to fact check myself that we searched, and for whatever reason, I suppose there's no official gay bars in Georgetown, which I just assumed because Washington, D.C. is one of the gayest cities in America.
So, yeah, some people would call it a gay mecca.
It's really something.
So I guess when people are in any bar in Georgetown, I find it hard to believe there's no gay bars in Georgetown.
I just, I find that hard to believe.
That they're wearing the FBI shirt.
But there's something to that, is that the energy of the LGBTQIA plus movement used to be one of rebellion.
The system is against us.
We are fighting the man, fighting the system.
That's why we need these parades.
The left did something so smart, is that they've always believed in power.
Now, I don't believe in power for power's sake.
We're not O'Brien from 1984 and George Orwell.
However, what I think is critical to understand is the idea of the perpetual revolution.
Within the left, there was finally this oh moment where instead of trying to rebel against the FBI, just take over the FBI and do so by flooding the system with staffers that share your worldview.
Flood the agencies with personnel that believe in all of the college campus ideas.
And finally, once you get there, never stop complaining.
I hate to oversimplify things, but one of the ways that the left has taken over our corporations, taken over our institutions of government, is 25, 26, 27-year-old secular, unmarried revolutionaries who went to Yale and Stanford, who are looking for purpose in their life, they get to these institutions, whether it be Wells Fargo, American Express, any one of these companies,
BlackRock, and they start complaining.
We don't have enough black people in this room.
There are not enough gays and lesbians represented on the board.
Why are we not donating money to these organizations?
And they did this relentlessly.
And so the energy of the LGBTQI plus whatever movement used to be one against challenging the system.
And now, bizarrely, and very few people are noticing and mentioning this, they now not just are the system, that's people are noticing, but they're the ones that want to quote unquote conserve the status quo.
Think about that.
That used to be what we did.
That was our job.
Our job was we want to protect the family.
We want to protect Western values.
And now we have to almost embrace dissident energy.
And in a strange, perplexing, unprecedented turn of events, the, you call them woke activists or the gay activists or the globalist activists, whatever, they're the ones that are saying, no, the way things are actually good.
It's good to have kids twerked in front of at pride parades.
You're talking like a conservative, but you're trying to conserve something that is extremely nasty and insidious.
Okay, so here's the connection, Mike Pence talking like an institutionalist.
So what does Mike Pence and the Alphabet Mafia have in common?
They both trust our system of justice.
What does Mike Pence and the Wokesters have in common?
They both think the DOJ is largely a good institution.
Play Cut 84.
To me, not answering is a no.
Number one, I don't think you know what the president's defense is, do you?
Why We Trust Nothing 00:12:53
I mean, what are the facts?
I mean, look, we either believe in our judicial process in this country or we don't.
We either stand by the rule of law or we don't.
Either we stand by the rule of law or the justice system.
That's exactly how Peter Strzok would answer the question.
That's exactly how this generation Harvey Milk would answer the question.
And so when we point out when we say the uniparty, this is what we mean.
If you think everything is ho-hum, perfect, and just going the way it should, like most Republicans in D.C. do.
Well, there you go.
By the way, we got a fact check from one of our listeners.
They said, Charlie, here's a list of the 10 gay bars near Georgetown, Washington, D.C.
So, I don't know.
We got all sorts of different controversies.
Again, I find it very, very hard to believe that there's not gay bars in Georgetown.
If you were to best summarize, though, what historical philosophy the Uniparty is embracing, I think it could be best summarized as American Maoism.
They want control and power.
It's exactly what Mao Zedong did when he took over China via the Chinese Communist Party.
And as the CCP is actually taking more parts of America, our government is acting more and more like the CCP, far more like the Chinese Communist Party than it is a constitutional republic.
So tying this back to Durham, you in the grassroots and you in the audience, you are fuming angry and mad because you hear about everything that's wrong and now you see the book report and you say, but where are the handcuffs?
Where are the perp walks?
And you simultaneously have to then see your former president, who did an excellent job as president, President Donald Trump, get the book thrown at him.
Cut 57, John Durham said the FBI was too willing to accept and use politically funded, uncorroborated opposition research such as the Steele dossier.
But I have to respectfully ask, Mr. Durham, why did you not bring any charges against the Clinton campaign for this?
Play Cut 57.
Another aspect of our findings concerned the FBI's failure to sufficiently scrutinize information it received or to apply the same standards to allegations it received about the Clinton and Trump campaigns.
As our report details, the FBI was too willing to accept and use politically funded and uncorroborated opposition research such as the Steele dossier.
So they used uncorroborated research such as the Steele dossier.
Okay, but you're tap dancing around this, Mr. Durham.
And you do this again where, oh, we found violation of law and policy.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, time out.
Time out here.
Are you nothing more than an inspector general that puts forward a report?
Mr. Durham, you have indictment authority, or you did.
So play cut 55.
We found troubling violations of law and policy.
Okay, so you indicted Kevin Kleinsmith.
You did the Dan Chenko.
Durham lost all of his cases, largely because of zip code justice and jury pool selection.
But wait a second here.
We found troubling violation of law and policy in the conduct of highly consequential investigations directed at members of presidential.
Wait, hold on.
So you found people that violated the law.
You found people that broke the law.
Why are they not in jail?
Or why did you not indict Struckstroke Smirk, Lisa Page, Bruce Enelio, or James Comey, Andy McCabe?
A serious problem, again, this kind of goes back to the Georgetown gay bar discussion, is that major federal abuses will always be put on trial in Washington, D.C. If you want to add to the infinite list of things that we need to do, is that Congress should pass a law that you're going to have to, you get a random selection of zip codes of where you're going to have to be tried for federal abuses.
You represent the whole country, yeah, you're not going to be able to be in a 95%.
I'll just give you an example.
If Donald Trump right now for his document thing was tried in Lubbock, Texas, the thing would be over in six hours.
Miami's a 50-50 shot.
In D.C., they might literally convict him of insurrection or seditious conspiracy.
So John Durham says that you found violations of the law.
Hello?
Then where is the parade of indictments that we as citizens deserve?
Play cut 55.
For one, we found troubling violations of law and policy in the conduct of highly consequential investigations directed at members of a presidential campaign and ultimately a presidential administration.
To me, it matters not whether it was a Republican campaign or a Democrat campaign.
It was a presidential campaign and should be of concern to any American who cares about our civil liberties, the rule of law, and the just and proportionate application of the law to all of us.
Whether we're friends or we're foes, the law ought to apply to everybody in the same way.
Mr. Durham, you're not a cable news pundit.
You had indictment authority.
If you found violations of the law, why didn't you use it?
Okay, yeah, you used it on Klein Smith and Dan Chenko.
But contrast John Durham with Jack Smith, who is acting like a crazy person, by the way.
It's like, if the law exists, we're going grand slam, great Bambino, Babe Ruth, point in the center field, like every time.
Jack Smith is, again, as I said, the eight-year-old in Little League Baseball, where he's just like, and he just collapses every single time.
And yeah, I mean, one out of 100 times at bat, he will hit that grand slam.
So why is John Durham, why didn't he have at least a little bit of that gusto?
Just a little bit.
You wonder why the conservative base doesn't trust institutions.
You wonder why that we're seeing this pattern of behavior from the American right.
This is why.
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I want to play piece of tape here.
Matt Gates grills, Mr. Durham, play cut 85.
You tried two cases, lost both of them, and then the one plea, guilty plea you got, Klein Smith, Klein Smith is back to practicing law in Washington, D.C. today.
Have you ever heard of the Washington Generals?
The Washington Generals?
Yes.
Yeah.
And they're the team that basically gets paid to show up and lose, right?
And it just seems so facially obvious that it's not what's in your report that's telling.
It's the omission.
It's the lack of work you did.
And for the people like the chairman who put trust in you, I think you let them down.
I think you let the country down.
And you are one of the barriers to the true accountability that we need.
This is not healthy.
You see, the media kind of delights in this.
But I have to ask, okay, let's pretend the left wins everything, wins, right?
They take over our elections and they do all this stuff.
You realize we're half the country, right?
I mean, what are you going to do with us?
I actually want some Marxist to come on the show and say, okay, you have all Soros' money.
You get 50 more John Fettermans.
We're still half the country and we're actually growing philosophically.
Gallup polls show the country is becoming more conservative, whether it be on parental issues, social issues.
We're moving center-right.
So, what are you going to do with us exactly?
You control the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, you control Google, you control Facebook, you control Goldman Sachs, you control BlackRock, you control the NBA, you control the NFL, but we're still here.
Kansas still exists.
Montana still exists.
What are you planning to do with us exactly?
And they're just going to be like, oh, we just need to keep on taking over the country and bring in more foreigners to disenfranchise ordinary people.
Okay?
What I'm getting at is, do you want half the country to not trust the FBI?
What kind of a place do you want to actually govern American left?
I think it's unhealthy when people don't trust their institutions.
It's a legitimate sentiment.
I'm there and you are there.
I want to have a government that earns our trust.
But after lying where COVID came from and the lockdowns and the mass and the mRNA shot and the manipulation of data and the disappearance of medical journals and whistleblowers and all that, we're done.
But it really makes you wonder: what is the plan of the American left or do they not care?
Steamroll, pummel them, call them terrorists.
Is it kind of the California model, one-party rule, where we just terrorize the right and you put up with some of their complaints here or there and you have supermajorities at all places and all turns?
Washington Examiner article, America turns right.
Conservatives top liberals, 40% to 26%.
So the country's philosophically and principally and politically moving more to the center right.
The Democrats even think for a second, yeah, it's probably not healthy for the future of the republic and of elections and our discourse and dialogue for my grandkids if 70 million people think that our government is the 21st century equivalent of Stalin's Soviet Union.
And the answer to my hypotheticals is to tally to tell totalitarians do not ask these questions.
They don't care.
They just want to be in charge and they'll figure out what to do with you.
But I just want to say it's demoralizing in a sense of I don't want to have to host an entire show talking about how the Justice Department, but I'm also not going to do happy talk, wishful thinking, Mike Pence stuff where everything is burning and you say, wow, what a beautiful day everything is.
The house looks great.
Actually, Mr. Pence, the house is on fire.
No, it's not.
That is just, that's a QAnon conspiracy theory.
Mr. Pence, it's about to burn down.
No, we either trust our system or we don't.
Yeah, the entire place is not just on fire, but there's people in the building.
Ah, that's where you're wrong.
We must trust the rule of, it's on fire.
I refute.
Nope.
Not happening.
Can't lie to yourself.
But it's as if the Democrats know this won't end well.
And so there's two simultaneous things happening right now.
One, where the elites are digging in even more.
They're more paranoid and more protective of their own crime syndicate while the country is becoming more and more center-right.
That's a recipe for a disaster.
And I have no idea how that is going to end up.
But the good news is that the body politic and the citizenry are more on our side than ever before.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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