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June 20, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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From Abortionist to Pro-Life Leader with Dr. Haywood Robinson and Vince Everett Ellison
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The Democrat Party Lie 00:10:10
Hey, everybody, two incredibly powerful guests about black culture, abortion, the Democrat Party, trans issues.
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Welcome back, everybody.
Email us freedom at charliekirk.com, the regime, and all everyone's saying Juneteenth, Juneteenth.
I want to have Vince Everett Ellison with us now, author of a new book, Crime Inc, and author also of 25 Lies and Crime Inc., How Democrats Employ Mafia and Gangster Tactics to Gain and Hold Power.
Vince, welcome to the program.
Hey, Charlie, thanks for having me, man.
Thank you.
So several things I want to ask you and explore with you.
But first, it's Juneteenth.
How should we think about Juneteenth?
You know, in my book, 25 Lies, I talk about how the Democrat Party lies.
You know, I was born on a cotton plantation in Hayward County, Tennessee.
My father was a chaircropper.
So I know the Democratic Party and the Southern Democratic Party very, very well.
And Juneteenth is a celebration now that the Democratic Party is trying to hijack.
The Democratic Party celebrating Juneteenth is like the Gestapo celebrating Hanukkah.
The Democratic Party was the party that owned the slaves.
They were the party that fought to destroy America and to keep their slaves.
They were the party that kept Jim Crow for 100 years, keeping black people from voting and castrating them and murdering them.
And now they want to say, ooh, let's celebrate Juneteenth and the emancipation of black people.
No, Juneteenth came about because black Republicans and white Republicans came down south and forcibly freed southern black people from their Democratic Party slave masters.
That is the truth.
And just like everything else, the Democratic Party is trying to hijack and lie and deflect their sins on the rest of America.
So like, you know, they're just liars, they have their miscreants.
And black people can have as many holidays as they want.
They're going to have Juneteenth, they can have MLK Day.
They can tear down Confederate statues and they can tear down the flags.
But until they decide to break a loose from this demonic, evil institution called the Democratic Party, they'll never have any peace in America.
I think that's exactly right.
And so a couple thoughts on that.
Or I have a question on that.
So in the black community, is there finally some questioning about this really abusive relationship between black America and the Democrat Party?
Well, Charlie, because of the work that you've been doing and people like you, yes, there is.
Thank you.
Younger black people, the younger black people are beginning to question it.
What you've been doing for the past few years with your blogs, with your radio show, with Turning Point, you're putting information out there that they cannot argue with.
So, you know, they're good at deflecting, as you know, but they now have a conspiracy of silence, as you know.
They try to keep people like you and me from talking to the black community because they know that if we ever start talking to them, the Democrat Party's done.
I think there's some truth to that.
And so, I want to go issue by issue.
You know, we just hosted a Blexit event in New York.
Mind you, we had five different venues cancel us.
But interestingly enough, it was not black activists that were trying to cancel us.
It was white liberals.
It was white liberals.
There it is.
Why does that resonate with you?
Well, in my first book, Charlie, it's called The Iron Triangle.
A little bit about my history.
I worked as a correctional officer for five years in South Carolina.
And in that prison, I saw how they were locking up black men.
And I asked the black intelligentsia, so why are these young black men being locked up?
And they said, okay, you know, the old refrain, oh, evil, rich, white Republicans hate black people and just want to hurt them.
So I resigned my post as a correctional officer, went into the black community, and I saw something pretty interesting.
I saw no evil, rich, white Republicans anywhere around.
You see a leprechaun before you saw one.
What I did see was a bunch of black Democrats.
And I saw these three entities making a lot of money off of the chaos.
And I called them the Iron Triangle.
They're the black preacher, black politician, and black civil rights worker.
Not all of them, most of them.
And they were conduits between the black community and the rich white liberals who need to keep the black community under control for their vote.
And they pay them.
The black preacher, the black civil rights organization, and the black politician are the only group in America that get paid by politicians.
You know, everybody else has a pat, right?
They pay politicians.
No, no, no.
Politicians pay the black preacher, the black politician, and the black civil rights organizations to keep the black community on the Democrat Party plantation.
This is why when you look at these congressional black districts, you think these guys want these districts to be integrated?
No.
They call it justification when white folks move in now.
They don't want you there.
They love segregation.
They control the terrible schools.
They control the ghettos.
They control every crack house, every whole house, every, every, every apostate church.
They've taken the black church, they made it apostate.
They've taken the black school, they've destroyed it.
They've taken the black man and they locked him up.
The Democratic Party is an evil institution.
It is controlled by a couple of perverts, liars, psychopaths, and anti-Christian bigots.
And until the black community shake off the shackles of this party, they will never, ever be free here in America.
So, Vince, let's talk about some of the issues.
And I think you're spot on because there is this black leadership issue where they get paid by white liberals to control the ordinary black person, right?
Someone, the black people that are doing their best to get ahead.
They're raising their kids.
They're working hard, and yet they don't see the conditions of their community improve.
They don't see the schools improve.
They don't see crime improve.
But is the argument you're making that black leadership, like Al Charlatan and some of these people, they're actually proxies of wealthy white liberals to keep the black community voting Democrat?
Oh, most definitely.
Look, Jim Crow, Jim Clyburn, Maxine Muddy Waters, they are just the 21st century concept of the old house Negro, the old house slave.
And his job was the same as theirs.
He was a conduit, a proxy, designed to keep the black field hand in control for the white master.
And after slavery, they kept that same system in control.
And now, after the civil rights movement, they did it again.
They just gave him a different title.
Now he's congressman.
He's councilman.
But they get their money from the same Democrats that for the last 220 years have made their power off the backs of black people.
They used to pick cotton, now they pick votes.
And as I tell black people now, slavery was a choice.
Freedom is a choice.
After the Emancipation Proclamation, you know how many black people left the plantations to help the Union Army fight for their freedom?
Only 5,000.
5,000.
All the white men were gone.
They were fighting for the Confederacy.
Why were black men still on the plantation picking cotton, digging ditches, putting up ramparts to help the Confederacy to keep them in slavery?
The same reason they march, they pick it, and they vote now for the same Confederacy.
Slavery is a choice.
Freedom is a choice.
They didn't take it then.
They're not taking it now.
So when you decide to become a free man, nothing can stop you.
Freedom is an unalienable right given to you by God.
It is irrevocable, non-transferable, and unsellable, according to John Locke.
It is born with you.
Thomas Jefferson talked about it.
And the reason why black people are not free in America is because they choose not to be free.
Nobody can give you your freedom.
It is something that you activate.
It is something that you just do.
It is something that you just put into action.
It is mine.
And we were told during the civil rights movement that we have to go ask the government for our freedom.
This is why we march so much.
This is why black people march more than anybody in the world because they believe that white people can give them their freedom and they just won't do it.
No, it is a lie.
And these white liberals keep telling them, they'll give you your freedom.
They just don't want to do it.
If you keep marching and you keep begging them, they'll give it to you.
No, your freedom is yours.
You have to activate it.
And when they understand that, they'll be like every other minority here in America, the Jewish community, the Indian community, the Asian community, probably doing better than the white community.
But again, the black preacher, the black civil rights organization, the black civil rights organization, and a black politician keeps telling them the same lie over and over and over again.
Why White Liberals Fail 00:02:07
You're oppressed.
And it's not as if there's a lack of capital to spend on these issues.
BLM raises billions of dollars.
Was that spent on better schools for black kids or for rebuilding infrastructure?
No, it wasn't.
It was white liberals trying to assuage their guilt because they're told they're racist and it goes to these laundering organizations.
I want to plug your book, 25 Lies in Crime Inc., How Democrats Employ Mafia and Gangster Tactics to Gain and Hold Power.
Hey, everybody.
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I'm all in favor of that.
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Beware the Fox in Sheep's Clothing 00:08:51
There are many whites who are trying to solve the problem, but you never see them going under the label of liberals.
That white person that you see calling himself a liberal is the most dangerous thing in the entire Western hemisphere.
He's the most deceitful.
He's like a fox.
And a fox is almost, is always more dangerous in the forest than the wolf.
You can see the wolf coming.
You know what he's up to.
But the fox will fool you.
He comes at you with his mouth shaped in such a way that even though you see his teeth, you think he's smiling.
That is Malcolm X. Our guest is Vince Everett Ellingson.
Vince, talking about that triangle, in your own words, the Iron Triangle, I want to ask you about a specific issue that I do not think is going to resonate at all in black America, and that is this trans issue.
Out of all the white liberal idea pathogens, the one that I see really some resistance, some disagreement, some kind of what the hell are you doing is trying to trans black youth.
Am I correct in that assumption?
Charlie, you're 100% correct.
I mean, and here's the thing: we have to make sure that the black community understands that the Democratic Party is behind it.
You're going to any black church on Sunday morning.
Oh, they're talking about transgenderism.
They'll talk about LGBTQ.
They'll talk about killing, dope, fighting, and crime.
But they'll tell you to go vote for the very same Democrat politician that's pushing it all.
Why?
Because we never ever put it together in a nice little box and say that the Democratic Party is behind this and that the Democrat Party congressman that you're voting for is the guy that's pushing it.
And if you keep on voting for this guy, you're going to send your own soul to hell.
Because our Bible tells us that not just the people that do these things are going to go to hell, but the people that encourage them are also going to hell.
You're going to be held responsible for your vote.
I have a documentary out right now called Will You Go to Hell for Me.
Before Tucker Carlson left Fox, he allowed me to debut the trailer on the show.
Again, you can view this trailer on willyougohellfrome.com.
Most powerful trailer you ever seen.
And I'm asking the question: how can Christian Democrats think they can vote for this party that wants to castrate little boys and call them little girls?
That wants to give dope mastectomies to little girls and call them little boys.
That will allow demented grown men to go to the bathroom with your daughters.
That will allow grown men to participate in sporting activities with little girls.
To allow grown men to put on dresses and go into public schools and shake their behinds in your children's faces while they're trying to learn their ABCs in 123.
How do you think you're going to vote for this and not be held responsible by God?
Because Jesus Christ said, if anyone harm one of these little ones, it is better that a millstone be tied around your neck and you be thrown into the sea.
Well, I hope these Democrats get swear.
So, Vince, I want to ask you, okay, going into 2024, whoever the nominee, Donald Trump or whatever, they go to Atlanta, they go to Philadelphia, and they have an opportunity to speak to black audiences, which I tell Republicans, don't be afraid.
And Vince, you know this.
Some conservatives, white conservatives, are afraid to go talk to black people, that they're going to get heckled.
Yeah, yeah.
It's stupid.
Get rid of that.
Go talk to them.
It's stupid.
But what should the message be?
How do we win an extra 5 or 10 or 15% of blacks in 2024?
What is the message?
What is the case?
You go into the black community.
The Democratic Party is a party of anti-Christian bigots.
They're a bunch of liars, perverts.
They take your children and lock them in failing schools.
Will not let them out.
They allow fentanyl and sex trips to come across that border, and these people come right into your neighborhood.
And they take space from your children and from you.
And they fight for programs that are government benefits that you should be getting.
You tell them that they want to disarm you in a war zone.
And then they want to dismantle and defund the police at the same time.
Why would they do that?
They want the drugs in your community.
They want the crime in your community.
They want the murder.
They want the rape.
That's what you tell them.
You said, look around you.
For 220 years, what has been the one thing that has been on your neck?
It hasn't been the Republican Party.
It's been the Democrat Party.
Name me an area in America that's Republican, that is majority black, that the Republican Party runs anything.
You can't name it.
Everywhere where your people live, the Democrat Party controls it, and the Democrat Party is killing you in real time.
They've always hated you.
And then you tell them you and you alone have the power to break this cycle.
You, you alone.
It is not the Republicans.
It is not America.
It is you.
And until you decide to get these people off of your back, you deserve everything you get.
Well, you heard it.
A Republican consultant wouldn't tell you that.
A Republican consultant would say, go to the inner city and talk about tax policy.
You have to speak honest.
You have to be candid.
You have to connect with people on a deep and real level.
Vince, excellent commentary.
I want to have you back on.
And I also want to have you speak at our events.
I think you're a very powerful voice.
And I love it because you're candid and courageous, which are two of my favorite things.
Vince, thank you so much.
And check out his book, Criming.
Man, I've been a fan of yours for a while.
I'm so proud of what you're doing.
You're young.
You're passionate.
And look, I'm here to help you in any way that I possibly can.
Please call me.
Let's hook up.
You're a good man.
Thank you.
You have a great talent.
Thank you so much.
I want to tell you guys about something every single one of you can benefit from, and you guys need to change.
It's who we use when we go to get mortgages.
Look, I balance a lot of stuff.
I'm traveling all the time, my show.
And I recently needed to get a mortgage to get something figured out.
And it was a tough one.
And I didn't want to go to those woke banks.
I, you know, I did previous, my last mortgage we did, it was with a woke bank, and they were just, they were bureaucratic, and they donate the BLM and the gay agenda and all that stuff.
And I said, what can I do to actually, and I said, of course, duh, hello, andrewandodd.com.
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When I needed a mortgage, of course, I went to my friends, Andrew Delray and Todd Avakin at Sierra Pacific.
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You know, we do a lot of things together.
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And yes, no more of this woke stuff.
Stop using the woke banks.
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They do a terrible job, by the way.
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They do a great job and stop depending on woke banks for what I needed.
I saw it firsthand.
They got it done for me, and it was very complicated.
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And they said, Oh, you got to do this and this, and I'll make this phone call.
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You're trying to get a response from a woke bank on a Sunday.
You'll say, Sorry, no response.
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And finally, some of you might say, oh, Charlie, bad time to buy you a home.
I don't know about that.
You should look what's happening.
Commercial real estate is one thing.
Private single-family home ownership, it might actually stabilize and go up in the next year.
If you're young, it might be the time to get in.
Think about it, pray about it.
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From Killer to Pro-Life Warrior 00:08:47
Joining us in a second is an unbelievably powerful guest, Hayward Robinson, Dr. Hayward Robinson, who for years was an abortionist and had an encounter with God and now speaks out against abortion.
Pretty remarkable story.
And I'm excited to speak with him about that.
Since his salvation in 1986, Dr. Robinson has been a voice for the pro-life movement.
And today, Dr. Robinson shares his testimony worldwide to expose the facts of the abortion industry and be a voice for the unborn.
Dr. Robinson, welcome to the program.
It's a blessing to be here, Charlie.
Great to be on your show today.
God bless you.
Thank you.
And God bless you for your work and your courage.
Tell our audience your story.
What did you do as an abortionist?
And how did God change your life?
Well, what I've learned is that we need to use the word abortion less.
Basically, I was a paid killer of pre-born children.
All the mother needed to do, and we need to stress to these women that they're already mothers when they have conceived, is they would pay someone like me to take them into a facility.
It's not a clinic, it's a killing center, where I would then take that baby's life and then away once I got the money.
So I was saved by the Lord Jesus Christ a bit over 30 years ago and went from darkness to light, a Saul, Paul, conversion.
And the scales fell off my eyes, even though I knew the truth scientifically that a pre-born child is indeed human, is a developing Homo sapien, and I would take that life.
The Lord opened my eyes to know that every life is sacred and that he can indeed do the same thing for anyone else who's involved in the abortion cartel or the abortion industry.
It's all about a business of killing children, and we've got to stop these, I call them anti-humanites from their ill deeds.
So, how many abortions did you personally perform?
I would probably say in the neighborhood of hundreds, I was not one of these abortionists that practiced for decades.
I practiced or did abortions more on the side, moonlighting during residency.
So it was the type of thing I did in the evenings and on weekends.
So it wasn't something that I did over an extended period of time.
But even if you do it for a short period of time, it's an easy money.
The procedure is not very complicated.
I'm not going to say it's a simple procedure.
There's no such thing as a simple surgical procedure because they can have devastating consequences.
But you can do a first trimester suction DNC or suction dilation and curatage in about 10 minutes.
You have two rooms running.
When you finish the killing in one room, you just move to the next room where there's a patient already waiting.
And then there's this lie that they tell that this abortion thing is about an agreement or something between the doctor and the mother.
No, it's not.
You don't meet this patient until you walk in the room, you barely introduce yourself and you kill their child.
And then you send them out on the streets after give them a graham cracker and maybe a little cup of juice.
And then you walk away with the money.
When you were performing these, was there any part of you before you had that revelation moment where you had to suppress the guilt of what you were doing?
Was there a time where you were like, I don't love this, where you had to almost fight it and say, ah, it's, you know, or just, was there a process of justification you went through before your eyes were totally opened?
Well, the key word, Charlie, is dehumanization/slash desensitization.
The first time you see an abortion, you get a feeling in you, you know, this just ain't quite right.
And that's normal for a human being.
When you see another human being, particularly one that's defenseless, now we have to admit that a very small six or seven week pre-born child doesn't look a lot like you and I, but it is still indeed a human being.
And you know that what you're doing is taking away a developing life.
But after you see one, and in the book, The Scalpel and the Soul, we talk about how you can see one, you become progressively desensitized.
Your eyes are the window to your soul.
And once you let that virus in, that's the first step of desensitizing your humanity, desensitizing your heart.
And the next time you see one, it's a little less.
So the next thing you do, or the next thing you know, you're there sitting there getting ready to do an abortion yourself.
And after the first one, it's kind of difficult.
But you know, it's a funny thing about evil.
It's a funny thing about habits and addictions.
They have a way to desensitize the normal response to something that's noxious.
All one needs to do is think about the first time they tried to smoke a cigarette, they coughed, and that's because it was a foreign, noxious stimulus.
And that's what abortion is.
You're seeing the killing of a pre-born child, and you progressively desensitize yourself and take the humanity away from the baby, which eventually happens to the doctor also.
And so desensitization and dehumanization, which we've done with other people groups also throughout history, that's what happens with pre-born child killing or what we refer to as abortion.
So you had your transformational moment.
Walk us through time, place.
Where did it happen where you just dropped the scalpel and you said no more?
Walk us through that.
Well, I was trained to do this in Southern California in Los Angeles, where I grew up.
I stopped doing abortions in 1981 and met my wife and during residency training in the same hospital where I trained.
After being married, we moved to Bryan College Station, Texas, where we just wanted to practice normal medicine.
It's not in the normal DNA of a young doctor to say, well, I want to be an abortion the rest of abortionist for the rest of my life.
No, most 99.9 of the applicants to medical school just want to be a good doctor and help others.
It's the attraction of easy money that draws people into the abortion cartel.
Now, for me, it was rather atypical.
I went to a Leon Patello Christian music concert where he had something like what we would call an altar call, where he asked, who wants things to be 100% right with God?
And I stood up and he prayed, but I didn't know exactly what I was praying for.
But the Lord took that and honored that moment as my Damascus road experience.
And over the next several weeks, the gospel was indeed explained to me.
I knew that I was a new creature in Christ.
I knew that Jesus, he who had no sin, became sin that I might know the righteousness of God.
And from that time on, I've been discipled.
I've become very active in the pro-life movement, right along with my late wife, Maureen Johnson.
And I'm working right now full-time with 40 Days for Life, which is a very robust pro-life organization that's impacting the war against the pre-born.
So he took me from darkness to light.
I remind people that the revolving door or the door that leads from darkness to light, from being a baby killer to a pro-life warrior, swings only one way.
Exposing Abortion Distortions 00:06:35
And we don't have people who are pro-life and then they decide they're going to be an abortionist.
And I'm just thankful that we're just about to celebrate the first anniversary of the overturning of Roe E. Wade.
But we've got to recognize that there's still a lot of abortions going on and our fight is really just beginning.
We've got a lot of work to do.
Amen.
The name of the book again?
Scalpel and the Soul.
It's available.
You can get it from our website, 40 Days for Life, 40DaysForLife.com or through Amazon or the usual outlets.
It's been a blessing.
I'm not trying to sell books or become famous.
I'm hoping that hearts are changed, babies are saved, and we move out of this evil age of pre-born child killing.
It's a very, very important book, an incredibly important topic.
You know, on June 20th, tomorrow will be the historic overturning of Roe versus Wade.
So Dr. Robinson continues to us.
So Dr. Robinson, can you comment on how abortion disproportionately impacts the black community?
Yes.
A white woman, so let's look at it from a black woman's point of view.
She is twice as likely as her white counterpart to have an abortion performed on her.
If we look at the general population, it's probably around one out of five or one out of six.
When it comes to blacks, it's about one out of three, but it varies across the United States.
When we look at a place like New York City, that's where you see the largest disparity of blacks and abortion.
And this is not by accident.
The roots of it are in what we call eugenics or Margaret Sanger's type of eugenics, where they decide or have a policy or philosophy that there's certain racial stocks that should not be proliferating and that they are human weeds.
If you look at the statistics in New York City, you will find that there are more blacks aborted than there are live births.
But it's something that the mainstream media and what we refer to as the black leadership, they don't talk about that because it's just not an appropriate narrative, mainly because you can't make any money off of it and the media is not going to cover it.
So what the people who know the statistics are right there.
The numbers don't lie.
The black population in this United States is being suppressed.
The most dangerous place for a black human being is inside of a black womb.
They have only about a two-thirds chance of surviving that 40-week lease space, so to speak, and coming out alive.
So it's very unfortunate that the black church will not stand up against this evil and this disparity.
Now, of course, abortion is evil regardless of if it's white or black, but it disproportionately affects the black race in the United States.
And so what do you find is, and you have a great temperament and an unbelievable story.
What do you think is the most persuasive way to convince someone who is pro-abortion to reconsider their views?
What questions, what arguments have you found over your multiple decades of speech and advocacy to be the most effective?
Well, I found it's best to so-called flip the switch.
And it's not the eloquence of what I may have or my experience.
It's get them to articulate why they like killing babies.
Don't say, why are you pro-choice or why do you believe in reproductive rights?
Those are all euphemisms that are used to stop us from saying what we're really talking about.
Just ask the person, well, why do you believe in killing babies?
And first off, it's going to have them to wake up.
That's what they're in favor of.
They're in favor of a legalized killing of pre-born children and get them to explain why.
They'll usually say things like a woman has bodily autonomy and the government shouldn't stand between them and the rights to their body.
But we need to then make them aware, well, yes, they do.
And all you need to do is murder a pregnant woman and you will be tried for two murders.
The best example would be that we know of right now.
Scott Peterson is on death row in San Quentin.
I believe that's where he's in prison in California.
He killed his pregnant wife.
He's on death row for two murders.
You see, the state has an interest in the pre-born because they recognize that they are pre-born humans.
you are a physician and you suspect that a woman is using drugs and she's pregnant, you by law have to report that to Child Protective Services because the state has an interest in the welfare of the child.
So it's what we see here is the abortion distortion.
We want to recognize the humanity and the legal protection of the pre-born child in one instance.
But if it comes to killing it because it's an abortion or a pre-born child killing for money, we change the legal standard and it's schizophrenia.
You can't have it both ways.
Dr. Robinson, thank you so much for your courage and your wisdom.
And check out his book, The Scalpel and the Soul.
That's the name of it, right?
That's right.
That said, thank you, Charlie.
Dr. Robinson, thank you so much.
And praise God, Roe versus Wade is repealed.
Overturned.
Praise God.
God bless you.
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