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Presidential Powers and Indictment
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| Hey everybody, Tana Charlie Kirk Show. | |
| Professor Yu joins us to talk about presidential powers and the indictment. | |
| And then we have Peachy Keenan to talk about being labeled as a domestic extremist, some reactions to the indictment and more. | |
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| Joining us now is an extremely smart man, someone that I'm honored to have join the program. | |
| Professor John Yu. | |
| He's Distinguished Professor of Law and University of California Berkeley Visiting Fellow, Hoover Institution, and a non-resident senior fellow at AEI and author of the forthcoming book, Politically Incorrect Guide to the Supreme Court, which we will definitely have him back to discuss. | |
| Professor Yu, welcome to the program. | |
| Professor Yu, there are a lot of questions about presidential authority here and declassification and your expert legal opinion. | |
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Justice Department Integrity Issues
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| How should we think about this indictment? | |
| First off, we shouldn't ask necessarily, can President Trump be indicted, but should he be indicted? | |
| Should prosecutors, using their best judgment, think this kind of prosecution is in the national interest? | |
| We have crossed a constitutional Rubicon here in prosecuting for the first time in our history a former president for prosecuting for the first time in our history the leading candidate of the opposition political party for president. | |
| It's got to be, I think, a very high bar, no matter whether President Trump wily the law or not, whether to bring this case at all. | |
| Because we don't want future presidents to always be worrying about their personal legal liability when they make the toughest decisions for our country's sake. | |
| And we don't want to become a place where the party in power starts to prosecute and throw in jail the people they just beat in the election or the people they're thinking of running against. | |
| And so I could see a former president being charged for things like insurrection or rebellion or treason, but for mishandling classified documents in the way that it looks like President Trump did the indictment, I don't think that this rises to that level. | |
| Yeah, and that's an argument that needs to be made, which is there's been this unspoken rule that if you're a former president, you're not above the law, but we have to have a really high threshold to cross that Rubicon, right? | |
| I mean, it's got to be something that is so decisive because you know what it's going to do to the country. | |
| You know it's going to be damaging. | |
| You know it's going to tear things apart. | |
| And I think that is actually how the Justice Department and the FBI under James Comey justified not charging Hillary Clinton, which is like, okay, we're near an election. | |
| You know, we'll kind of do a little bit of a memo. | |
| We don't want to have to set this precedent and be known as interfering in election. | |
| Professor, it seems as if that's just gone. | |
| Now it's like, hey, whoever has power is going to use the power. | |
| This unspoken rule has now been shredded. | |
| And so I think it's just really damaging for the Republic in general because now you're going, when you have an individual that serves in the presidency, there's all these criminal codes that could then be potentially applied to them. | |
| More laws, the less justice. | |
| Professor, your reaction. | |
| I'm glad you raised this issue, Charlie, because this is even the bigger issue that we should worry about that goes beyond Trump, that goes beyond the presidency, which is the health of our republic. | |
| One of the things that makes America exceptional, a unique country, is our faith in law enforcement. | |
| We have faith in law enforcement and its integrity. | |
| And so most Americans voluntarily cooperate with the law, with the police, with the FBI, even the IRS. | |
| Most Americans file their taxes on time voluntarily. | |
| They don't need to have the threat of being arrested or thrown in jail. | |
| That integrity, that reputation, that integrity depends on nonpartisan application of the law of an unbiased Justice Department. | |
| What have we seen now, unfortunately, is a train of abuses, starting with, you just mentioned Jim Comey and his expansion, his aggregation, his exaggeration of this Russia hoax, his effort to entrap President Trump into lying to the government. | |
| And then you have reports, most recently from the Durham Report, about the problems with the Justice Department. | |
| You had an internal investigation of the Justice Department showing that high-level members of the FBI may have lied to the government. | |
| So when you already have people losing faith in the Justice Department, and then you bring a case like this one, when Hillary Clinton back in 2016, the case you mentioned, was not charged, when what she did to create this server to root all her government emails in and out of was designed to prevent government surveillance and scrutiny of official documents. | |
| People are going to think that prosecution is becoming biased and then they won't cooperate with it. | |
| And then we will lose a vital aspect of a republic, which is faith in the integrity of the justice system. | |
| I totally agree. | |
| I want to get your reaction here. | |
| And again, this is just a cable news host bloviating and pontificating, but I think there's more to the story here. | |
| I'm going to get your reaction to Rachel Maddow wondering out loud if the DOJ could make a deal with Donald Trump to not charge him if he drops out of the race. | |
| Just as this is a trial balloon is shocking. | |
| Cut seven, please. | |
| You have to wonder if the Justice Department is considering whether there is some political solution to this criminal problem, whether part of the issue here is not just that Trump has committed crimes, but that Trump has committed crimes and plans on being back in the White House. | |
| Do they consider, as part of a potential plea offer, something that would prescribe him, proscribe him from running for office again? | |
| Now, that's just cable news chatter. | |
| Or is it, Professor Yu, if the DOJ did something like that, how should we think? | |
| I mean, is there anything more interfering with an election than something like that, potentially? | |
| This is exactly why we should not have partisans in charge of the application and enforcement of the law, because you aren't supposed to pick cases based on their political consequences. | |
| And you're supposed to not refrain from prosecuting because of their political consequences. | |
| You want to prosecute based on deterrence and the stopping of harm to the country and the national interest. | |
| Thinking like this is just exactly the way the Justice Department and Jim Comey thought about not prosecuting Hillary Clinton. | |
| This is why you can't have people who think this way anywhere near the way the Justice Department acts. | |
| But when the Justice Department doesn't charge Hillary and then charges Donald Trump, then people, regular Americans, are going to see that and say, is law being enforced in a biased way? | |
| Are people, not necessarily Rachel Nadow, I hope, but the people who think like her actually calling the shots and what kind of cases are brought or not? | |
| And I'm afraid we're already there, right? | |
| I mean, and if that were to ever be the case. | |
| So I want to ask you, Professor, you know, there was this long-standing policy, it was not law, but the internal memo that the DOJ would not or would be very careful to indict a current presidential candidate. | |
| Is that correct? | |
| That there was some sort of rule, and I think it was post-1990s or something. | |
| There's also a rule, not a law, that they wouldn't indict a sitting president. | |
| So now that they said that, well, we don't care about the candidate thing, does that mean that they could potentially go after Joe Biden? | |
| And where did these rules come from? | |
| And so just fill us in on this because it seems as if these internal policies have just been steamrolled. | |
| So there is an opinion of the Justice Department, internal opinion, it only applies to the Justice Department and to the executive branch, which says DOJ prosecutors will not bring charges against a sitting president. | |
| And the reason for that is because, and it underscores here, who's really responsible for all of this. | |
| The reason for that is because under the Constitution, there's only one person who has the responsibility to enforce the law, and that's the president. | |
| So the Attorney General, Special Counsel, Jack Smith, every line attorney throughout the Justice Department is just constitutionally assisting Joe Biden in that responsibility. | |
| So your point, Charlie, is an excellent one, which I think has been missed by a lot of people, which is it's not just Jack Smith's decision to bring these charges. | |
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Pro-Life Laws and Responsibility
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| It's not just Merrick Garland's decision, which it is to bring these charges. | |
| Ultimately, it is Joe Biden's decision to bring these charges. | |
| Yeah, and I think people are missing this: there is some sort of a weird word game that is being played of Joe Biden, like, oh, I didn't talk to Garland and all that. | |
| Like, hold on a second. | |
| You authorized NARA to go after. | |
| You allowed this whole process. | |
| And you're trying to tell me with a straight face that there was not a wink, a nod, a whisper, an ombudsman or a messenger that whispered in the ear of Joe Biden or his handlers that this thing was going to proceed to criminal charges, that Joe Biden read about it in the papers. | |
| No way. | |
| And if that is then the case, then that is someone using the federal government of the United States to directly go after someone that is currently running them against them in the presidency. | |
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| Professor, reading through the indictment, what do you think is the most serious charge against Trump here or the evidence that is going to be the most difficult for his defense team to navigate? | |
| So I think the charges are getting all the headlines right now: President Trump taking classified documents, President Trump storing classified documents. | |
| I don't think that's really his vulnerability because former Vice President Biden and former Vice President Pence did the exact same thing. | |
| They didn't get charged. | |
| The difference between the two cases is really over obstruction of justice and lying to federal agents, what we call process charges. | |
| You could even be innocent of the underlying real charges, but still commit a process charge like lying, and that could still get you in trouble. | |
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Declassified Documents Defense
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| But then, this is what really makes this case and Hillary's case harder to distinguish: obstruction. | |
| Because, again, if you recall with Hillary's case, she created, again, a computer server through which she rooted all her emails. | |
| And then, when the government found out about it and asked to see the emails, she had her lawyers destroy thousands and thousands of the messages and never allowed the FBI to see them, only said, These are the ones we think you would be interested in. | |
| So, I ask you, and I think regular Americans are asking, how are these cases any different? | |
| Isn't actually what Hillary did far worse than what Trump is alleged to have done, and he's the one being charged. | |
| Well, Professor, there's other important differences, and you're touching on it. | |
| Everything was recovered by the government with President Trump. | |
| We believe that's the case. | |
| There is this question about the document that he was talking about on camera. | |
| Did the government get that back or not? | |
| But the other important component here that I think people are missing is Hillary Clinton did not have the ability to declassify something. | |
| She was Secretary of State. | |
| Is that only the president can do that at will? | |
| So, let me just ask you, Professor, this might be a strange legal argument, but you said something. | |
| I want to make sure he can declare it declassified. | |
| Was that the word you used? | |
| So, could Donald Trump's defense say, Yeah, I was just walking in the halls and I said to the ceiling, declassified? | |
| I mean, what does a declaration mean exactly? | |
| I mean, does he have to tell one person? | |
| Does he have to tell himself? | |
| Does he have to write it on a napkin? | |
| Does it have to be a I mean, I'm being somewhat silly, but I'm actually being deathly serious. | |
| No. | |
| No, no, this is not silly, and this is actually a key element in the trial. | |
| So, all the classification of all documents in the government actually stems from the president's executive power under the Constitution. | |
| Donald Trump's not making that up. | |
| The Supreme Court said this in a case called Navy versus Egan. | |
| All the classification power stems from the president. | |
| The president can therefore declassify anything he wants. | |
| If the president says out loud something that's classified, say in a press conference, it's automatically declassified by that very act. | |
| So, President Trump's lawyer should make the argument that all these documents were declassified when he sent them to Mar Ilago at the end of his presidency. | |
| But The hard thing is there is a little comment in the indictment where President Trump allegedly says, I think, to a reporter on tape, see, I've got this document. | |
| I know, I know I shouldn't have it. | |
| It's still secret and close. | |
| His defense would have to be, Professor, that was just me doing showmanship, right? | |
| I was just being entertaining. | |
| That's a tough argument to make to a jury, though, isn't it? | |
| I was joking doesn't always hit, right? | |
| That's a tough one. | |
| Also, the other piece of evidence that was hard for him is his own lawyers testifying against him. | |
| But that's also a big vulnerability in the prosecution's case. | |
| It's because usually, yeah, usually you have a privilege to say anything to discuss your legal issues with your attorney. | |
| This is one of the oldest privileges in Anglo-American history. | |
| So here in this case, a judge allowed the DOJ to override that right, which has existed for hundreds and hundreds of years. | |
| That is an appealable issue. | |
| President Trump may take that one, and then this declassification one, and then one about executive push, all the way to the Supreme Court. | |
| This is not going to be over just in the middle. | |
| I think you're right. | |
| I mean, and as far as the declassification, again, the facts will have to learn, but I would imagine President Trump's defense is going to be, hey, when I was leaving the White House for Marine One at the last time, it was communicated to my staff, you know, hey, all that stuff's declassified. | |
| And I can't imagine if they had a problem. | |
| Why'd they allow that stuff to be stacked up on the side of the street if this stuff was highly sensitive and confidential? | |
| That's going to have to be remedied by a U.S. Supreme Court. | |
| What does a declaration of declassification mean? | |
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Woke Banks Mortgage Response
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| I agree, though. | |
| It's going to be a challenge. | |
| It's going to be a thicket for his defense lawyers because President Trump, in the sense of showing off the document, that on the stuff they have on audio is going to be a challenge because that one, the prosecutors probably smiled when they got that audio, if they actually wanted to proceed with that. | |
| Professor, you'd love to have you back on to talk about the Supreme Court and your book. | |
| But excellent commentary. | |
| The Supreme Court. | |
| I'd love to. | |
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| Okay, joining us now is a very special guest called The Greatest Writer in America by Citizen Free Press, contributor to The American Mind, Federalist, labeled a domestic extremist, Peachy Keenan. | |
| Hello, Peachy. | |
| Welcome to the program. | |
| Hi, Charlie. | |
| Great to be here. | |
| Yes, very, very good. | |
| So is that a pseudonym? | |
| I have to ask. | |
| Yes, it is a pseudonym. | |
| I had to start writing under a pseudonym because at the time I was working for a very large entertainment company here in Los Angeles. | |
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Democracy Election Caution
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| So for obvious reasons, that should be in the closet. | |
| Yeah, I got a copy of your book. | |
| I look forward to reading it. | |
| And you're a very, very talented writer. | |
| Tons of topics I want to talk about. | |
| I want to introduce you to our audience. | |
| But first, immediate reactions, indictment, arraignment. | |
| Trump's in the courthouse right now. | |
| How should we think about it? | |
| Your response. | |
| I mean, you know, I really don't care if you're for Trump or for DeSantis or whoever, but what's happening today and what's been happening since he was first elected is really a travesty. | |
| It's a joke. | |
| I mean, we, I mean, they keep talking about our sacred democracy. | |
| I'm not seeing a lot of evidence that they actually believe in having a sacred democracy. | |
| It's just become a banana republic. | |
| And, you know, they want to take him down. | |
| And, but really, what they, what they want to, who they want to take down are the people who support him and the people who don't like the direction his country is going. | |
| I've read your stuff on American Mind for quite some time. | |
| I want to connect this. | |
| I think one of the reasons why Donald Trump is so popular, and to be perfectly honest, I think the other people running for the presidency don't get this, is that there is this micro connection to a macro trend of a sense of persecution. | |
| So, for example, if I were to go to one of our Turning Point USA meetings and I say, How many of you have been persecuted because of your conservative views? | |
| And they all raise their hand, graded differently and all this. | |
| You have personal experience. | |
| Donald Trump, they have this in common with Trump. | |
| And they say, hey, he being at the courthouse is no different than, for example, Erica, our turning point USA New Mexico chapter leader, who had to go through Title IX investigations for six months because she was hosting an event for Tommy Lairn at University of New Mexico. | |
| And Tifa was trying to come in, and some other people were trying to come in. | |
| She said, Oh, those people look normal. | |
| Let them in, which they were just normal people, not with masks. | |
| She gets a nine-month Title IX investigation. | |
| So when they see this courthouse, it is a connection. | |
| It is a commonality. | |
| Your thoughts, PG? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, we see, you know, his base, his supporters loved him because he really did seem to speak for, like, you know, what he would call the forgotten men and women of America, middle America, the normal people. | |
| Okay. | |
| And that's why I called my book domestic extremists because it's ironic. | |
| You know, we just want to raise our families. | |
| We just want, we want to have the country back, the one that we grew up with, with the one that I remember from, you know, the 80s and 90s. | |
| We don't have to look that far back to remember a time when it was okay to be conservative and there was two sides and we could have a debate. | |
| But now it feels like if you don't go along with the regime, if you are a conservative, if you voice your opinions, you have to be silenced, suppressed, canceled, fired, and Trump under indictment. | |
| I mean, are we next? | |
| I mean, we like to joke about, you know, we're all going to be put into the gulags, but it really feels like that's where we're headed. | |
| I mean, I just don't understand how he, you know, they keep talking about no one is above the law, which is, you know, it makes me laugh. | |
| How do they say that with a straight face when the president himself is smoking gun proof that he is accepting bribes from foreign countries? | |
| Like, where's Jake Tapper on that one? | |
| No kidding. | |
| So I want to ask about something specific in regard to feeling persecuted. | |
| You had a viral threat a few months ago about what college admissions have become for ordinary middle-class white people who are not disabled or victims. | |
| Can you tell our victims what you heard from our friends and readers? | |
| Yeah, I had a friend texting me an anecdote. | |
| Her niece had been rejected from basically every California school, all the UCs didn't get in anywhere. | |
| She was a really great student. | |
| She had above 4.0, very high SAT, was a competitive gymnast. | |
| And she ended up having to go to community college for two years. | |
| And I've been hearing many stories of friends at our school whose children were the valedictorian and they got rejected from every single UC. | |
| The University of California schools used to be the place where middle-class drivers could go and get a great and affordable education. | |
| And it feels like now those are just completely out of reach. | |
| And yes, unfortunately, it is based on skin color. | |
| I mean, you know, the UCs have a colorblind admission policy. | |
| But in my course of my investigation of like what is going on here, their applications ask you very precise questions that are, you know, easily, you could just easily deduce what someone's ethnic or racial heritage is. | |
| And so kids who normally would have gone into these schools have, I mean, I'm sorry, there is like a great replacement theory. | |
| It's real if you look at the stats. | |
| And so that's what that tweet was about. | |
| And people jumped on my throat. | |
| I got fact-checked by the New York Times, Hannah Nicole Jones, Jamal Bowie. | |
| I was a racist. | |
| How dare I point out this thing that was actually really happening? | |
| Maybe she was just a terrible student and she had a bad personality. | |
| That's why she didn't get into school. | |
| It was really fascinating. | |
| It was like the blue dress. | |
| You know, is the dress blue or is the dress white? | |
| Depending on where you are politically, that's how you're looking at what is going on in college admissions, which has been totally taken over by DEI. | |
| It's incredibly telling. | |
| Kind of connecting to the blue dress analogy, which people may or may not remember. | |
| That was like big, what, six or seven years ago, right? | |
| It was something like that. | |
| I feel as if this Republican primary has a blue dress moment right now, not the Lewinsky blue dress stuff. | |
| We're talking about the data. | |
| Can you pull this up, Ryan? | |
| This thing, you know what I'm talking about. | |
| And where I actually don't know the science of why some people saw it differently than others, but I feel as if only one other person besides Donald Trump sees the dress the way that we do, right? | |
| Blue or gold, where all these other people, why is it that only one Republican candidate running for the presidency showed up to Miami today? | |
| Where were these other people? | |
| And do you think this is a missed opportunity, for example, the governor of Florida to not show up? | |
| Yeah, I mean, I actually just tweeted about this yesterday. | |
| You know, in light of what they were doing to Donald Trump, I mean, you know, it hurts me what they're doing to him. | |
| Like, I don't know, I take it personally. | |
| It just feels like, what, what, what is this about? | |
| Um, this personal destruction. | |
| They want him to die in prison. | |
| Like, he doesn't say what you want about his personal life. | |
| He doesn't deserve that. | |
| And so I tweeted yesterday that, like, this is so far beyond one election. | |
| And it just gives me a bad taste in my mouth to see GOP candidates who may be able to capitalize on his, you know, conviction or potential imprisonment, who may like rise in the polls or even win because his main opponent, their main opponent, has been taken out by the enemies, our enemies. | |
| And I feel like this is a time for them to kind of join up and like say, you know what? | |
| Not on our watch. | |
| Like politics is fine. | |
| We all want to win an election. | |
| That's great. | |
| But this is something like higher. | |
| This requires us to sort of put those things aside, at least for the next few months. | |
| I mean, forget about next year. | |
| Maybe, you know, go ahead. | |
| But right now, it feels like there would be such an incredible power if all the GOP candidates could kind of shuck off their hatred of him and come together and say, you may not do this to a member of our party, to the leader. | |
| You know, he's the de facto leader of the party. | |
| It just, I don't know, it just leaves me like, I'm less able to support one of them, I think, now because they're just not backing him enough. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's not about win or lose. | |
| It just seems like this massive missed opportunity. | |
| And there's only one person that shows up and decides to voice some opinion there. | |
| I want to play a piece of tape here. | |
| Let's see. | |
| We haven't had a chance to go through this. | |
| Let's go to I think I had Nikki Haley here somewhere. | |
| Actually, let's go to Vivek. | |
| Vivek does Vivek deserves some credit here. | |
| Let's play Cut 34. | |
| I will tell you that we have sent this letter, and I'm happy to announce this is my commitment on January 20th, 2025. | |
| If I'm elected the next U.S. president to pardon Donald J. Trump for these offenses in this federal case, and I have challenged, I have demanded that every other candidate in this race either sign this commitment to pardon on January 20th, 2025, or else to explain why they are not. | |
| Peachy, your thoughts here. | |
| I mean, it's better than not. | |
| I mean, he's also kind of trying to say that Donald Trump will inevitably be indicted, but at least he's there on the ground. | |
| Most are not. | |
| I mean, it's good, but he is saying that, you know, he's basically trying to use that as a way to pull Trump's Trump voters away from Trump towards him because he'll save their guy. | |
| So it is slightly exploitive of Trump's predicament, I think, in a way. | |
| It comes off a little weird. | |
| I mean, he doesn't have a chance. | |
| I don't think. | |
| I mean, I like Vivek. | |
| I think he's a good, great guy. | |
| You know, I think he'd probably be a fine president. | |
| I don't think he has a chance. | |
| I just think it'd be so much more powerful if all the candidates could just draw a line in the sand and just say, you know, no, you're not doing this to him. | |
| We will not allow this. | |
| Like, come what may. | |
| Well, I agree. | |
| Peachy, plug your book. | |
| Okay, so it came out last Tuesday: Domestic Extremists: A Practical Guide to Winning the Culture War. | |
| You can get it right now. | |
| It's right here behind me. | |
| I'm going to right here on Amazon, Bars and Noble, anywhere books are sold. | |
| And please follow me on Twitter at Keenan Peachy and you can read more about it. | |
| Thank you so much, Peachy. | |
| I appreciate it. | |
| Thanks so much. | |
| Thanks so much, Charlie. | |
| MSNBC is having quite a field day here. | |
| Without the narrative of domestic violent extremism, these people are going to lose. | |
| I am more confident than ever before that we're on a trajectory for inevitable victory if we can stay peaceful and they cannot incite us towards some sort of domestic violent extremism. | |
| Guess why? | |
| Because rioting and messing up your society is really unpopular. | |
| It's what made BLM unpopular. | |
| Play cut 28. | |
| Donald Trump on social media has now threatened his successor, Joe Biden, with a special prosecutor as one of the first things he'd do if he gets reelected. | |
| And there are domestic terrorists all over the place on the internet threatening violence. | |
| Any of those things would be unusual in American history. | |
| We've now got a confluence. | |
| And all I'm saying is, as we watch all this, let us not become so inured to this that we don't realize what an extraordinary and in certain ways terrible situation this is. | |
| Wait, he's saying that threats of violence are unusual in American history? | |
| Yeah, I don't think so. | |
| But they're not excusable, but I don't think it's unusual in American history. | |
| We'd BLM burn down our entire country and we were told it's a racial reckoning. | |
| But their narrative is the same. | |
| The narrative is the same. | |
| It's not about governing, improving people's lives. | |
| It's a threat to democracy. | |
| Play cut 21. | |
| If right-wing folks in this country concluded that they can no longer win elections democratically, they wouldn't abandon conservatism. | |
| They'd abandon democracy. | |
| And what we're seeing from some of these calls to violence coming from some of the more extreme members of the right wing in this country is an abandonment of democracy. | |
| And that should frighten everyday Americans. | |
| Okay, I think we have Ben Berquam, if I'm hearing correctly. | |
| Ben, live on the ground in Miami, Florida. | |
| What is the latest on the ground? | |
| One thing that Natalie just mentioned that you notice here, and I mentioned there's one lady that had a sign that said lock him up, referring to President Trump. | |
| And she was out in the middle of all of the Trump supporters, and she was protected. | |
| She was safe. | |
| Now, people disagreed with her. | |
| They had a conversation. | |
| But that's the difference between the right and the left. | |
| If you go out to a Trump rally against Trump, you're going to be treated respectfully. | |
| If the tables were turned and you took out a Trump sign to an Antifa rally, you're going to get beat up. | |
| You're going to get attacked. | |
| That's the difference. | |
| Real quick, folks, final thoughts. | |
| Why are you out here? | |
| It's hot. | |
| We're sweating. | |
| You got President Trump, what they're doing. | |
| What's your message to America? | |
| Okay. | |
| America is the last stop for freedom. | |
| If we lose this battle, we have nowhere to flee. | |
| Right. | |
| And we are immigrant. | |
| I'm coming from China. | |
| And we don't want America to turn to the place where we came from. | |
| Right. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you, President Trump. | |
| Keep fighting for us. | |
| God bless you. | |
| Okay. | |
| We are doing something unprecedented in television history where we have two hosts simultaneously going live with the same correspondent. | |
| Somehow that all worked. | |
| You could cut him off, guys. | |
| I hear him in my ear. | |
| So Ben Berquam from the front lines. | |
| But isn't it interesting? | |
| That's the third or fourth person that we have interviewed on this program on the ground in Miami that is a first-generation American warning us about this. | |
| It's really powerful. | |
| You have Cubans, Venezuelans, Chinese, Southeast Asians. | |
| Yeah, they've seen this movie before. | |
| They played this game before. | |
| It is not good. | |
| They are coming here to try to warn us or caution us. | |
| And we don't care to listen. | |
| Maybe the liberals will start to listen to us if we teach them the story of the Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks. | |
| I don't think they care. | |
| You guys will get indicted too. | |
| The beast will come for you eventually. | |
| I don't think they care. | |
| They hate Trump that much. | |
| It is a sworn blood oath that they must go after Trump at all possible costs. | |
| Thanks so much for listening, everybody. | |
| Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. | |
| Thanks so much for listening, and God bless. | |
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