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May 22, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Rename the NAACP! with Chadwick Moore
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Race hustler Al Charlatan, Al Sharpton, re-emerges to push a lie.
Nothing new there.
The NAACP doesn't want blacks to go to Florida.
And then Chadwick Moore joins us to talk about the latest news from Tucker Carlson's departure.
Sidelining, whatever it is.
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The NAACP, we don't hear much from the NAACP, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
I always find it strange when I actually say the acronym because this calling somebody a colored person, I don't know, feels wrong.
Not exactly language I would use, but that's what the NAAC stand and the NAACP stands for.
And now they have changed their opinion on what's happening in Florida.
The NAACP came out over the weekend and they issued a travel advisory.
This is usually what they'll do.
Like, hey, Americans should be very careful going to Syria, or Americans should be very careful going to Iraq.
Americans should be very careful because of the bird flu.
Those are usually travel advisories, or Americans should be very careful going to El Salvador.
No, no, no.
The NAACP has, if anybody asks them, has issued a travel advisory to blacks saying Florida is openly hostile towards African Americans.
Okay, let me just stop here.
Is it African American or is it black?
Can we get some clarity?
Because I think it's black because they didn't say African American lives matter.
It changes.
It vacillates because they say the political correct is African American.
But it was Black Lives Matter, I thought.
Black voices matter.
So I can't get an answer, but the NAACP says African Americans.
It's the constantly changing rules.
It's like queer.
Queer used to be a slur, and now queer is the new gay.
Anyway, before traveling to Florida, please understand that the state of Florida devalues and marginalizes the contributions of and the challenges faced by African Americans and other communities of color.
Now, mind you, the head of the NAACP, the person who issued the statement is a man by the name of Leon Russell.
Leon Russell lives in Florida.
So Leon Russell, who living in Florida, is sending out a press release saying no one should come to Florida.
It's hostile here.
And it's all Ron DeSantis' fault.
Now, none of this is actually rooted in physical danger to blacks.
Instead, it's prompted by Florida's laws saying that the poison of critical race theory, the arsenic of race essentialism, and the diversity industrial complex pushing back against that stuff, somehow it's threatening to blacks.
By suppressing toxic race-based politics in Florida, the NAACP says that Ron DeSantis and other state lawmakers are engaged in hate-inspired leadership.
The NAACP could not, this entire press release couldn't be based on any dangers for actual blacks in Florida.
If it were, the command would be based on a total lie, obviously, because Florida is actually far safer than some of the deep blue cities.
Let's play cut one.
NAACP issuing a travel advisory for Florida, play cut one.
NAACP has issued a travel advisory for Florida, and it's urging the black community to avoid visiting or moving to the Sunshine State.
According to the statement, the advisory comes in direct response to Republican Governor Ron DeSantis', quote, aggressive attempts to erase black history.
And it calls Florida openly hostile toward African Americans, people of color, and the LGBTQ individuals.
Now, where are actually blacks in danger?
Now, Jacksonville is the most dangerous large city in Florida.
In 2022, it had 163 murders, certainly too many, as is often the case in large cities.
But let's compare Jacksonville, with its Republican mayor, soon-to-be Democrat mayor, unfortunately, with other cities.
How about Chicago?
Chicago is three times the size of Jacksonville, but has four times as many murders.
In every single one of the above cities, such as New Orleans, Milwaukee, Milwaukee has half as many people as Jacksonville, yet it logged 214 murders.
Why doesn't the NAACP issue a travel advisory for blacks going to mostly black cities?
They're actually more at danger from black-on-black gang-related violence in Atlanta, in Detroit, in Chicago, and Philadelphia than anywhere in Florida.
Where are blacks actually in most danger?
The answer is in black urban centers.
But no, the NAACP is doing this because they're pandering to their white liberal donors, and they don't even believe it.
Again, the head of the NAACP lives in Tampa, Florida.
Florida's a really nice place, actually.
DeSantis has done a great job.
Look, if the NAACP were serious about the well-being of black Americans, it would be encouraging them to actually move to Florida, where they have school choice, economic mobility, educational vouchers, low crime.
If more blacks from Chicago moved to Florida, they'd actually live a much better life.
But no, the NAACP is not doing this because their name has become a lie.
100 years ago, the NAACP existed to fight lynching and segregation.
Today, both are thankfully long gone.
But stripped of its core purpose, the NAACP was easy to prey on for political operatives.
The NAACP protects Democrat officeholders and Democrat political priorities regardless of the circumstances.
We're a decent country.
We are.
And there is a supply and demand problem when it comes to racism.
There is not nearly enough racism for all of the groups and the charlatans to be able to capitalize on.
There's actually less racism than ever before.
We're really decent to one another.
Racism that exists is racism against white people and racism against Asians.
It really should be called the National Association for the Advancement of the Democrat Party.
Now, kind of piggybacking on this is the Jordan Neely situation and Daniel Penny situation in New York.
Jordan Neely, the schizophrenic criminal who is threatening others, saying that he wanted to go back to prison.
He was ready to go back to prison, who was restrained by the hero, Daniel Penny.
Now Daniel Penny faces criminal charges.
There's now a racial element being introduced here that it was obviously racism.
Do you see how they're trying to lay the found work and the framework and the foundation for 2024 based on race politics?
Don't go to Florida because Iron DeSantis is a white supremacist, even though I live in Florida.
You see, it's George Floyd 2.0 in the streets of New York in a subway.
You just can't go anywhere without white people wanting to restrain black people.
This kind of insistence that you must view everything through tribal and sectarian lenses is so damaging to the republic.
We're a largely decent country.
There are not white supremacists walking the subways looking for blacks to try to put them in chokeholds.
There are not white supremacists walking the streets of Chicago exclaiming this is MAGA country to find low-talent hacks like Jussie Smollett as he's out in negative 10-degree weather in the streets of Chicago.
No, America is so systemically not racist.
We're the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world, unless it's to white people or Asians.
We're the least racist country towards blacks that you have to fake your own hate crimes.
And these organizations have to justify themselves.
They are in a constant job justification, career justification, donation justification posture.
Why does the NAACP exist?
It's certainly not to help black people.
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If it was to help black people, they'd be talking about getting more fathers in the home.
The fact that 75% of blacks are raised out of stable father, if it was actually about the National Association of Blacks for the Advancement of Blacks, they talk about educational mobility going against the cartel, that is the teacher unions, going against gang-related violence.
No, the NAACP is a super PAC for the Democrat Party.
You go to their website.
It says the NAACP is here to fight, leading the fight to end racial inequality.
And it has all these different things on their website in movement, in culture, in community.
It's nonsense.
If they were actually serious about fixing the black community, the NAACP would be running PSAs and workshops of why dads should not abandon the women they impregnate.
That simple.
Raise the child that you are now responsible for.
You do that, it will fix multiple other issues.
No, instead, it's racism's fault.
And you better believe the carnival barker, Al Sharpton, Al Charlatan, as we call him, he will never miss an opportunity.
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So, the race pimp, the carnival barker, the race hustler, Al Charlatan, who calls himself Al Sharpton, he will never miss an opportunity to try to capitalize on somebody else's pain.
Now, remember, Al Charlatan does the bidding of white liberals in the black community.
He does not represent blacks.
He doesn't.
He represents white liberals to try to say, I am the spokesperson for black America.
We do not have adequate time to do a full biography on the vile behavior, career of Al Sharpton.
Tawana Brawley is the first thing that comes to mind.
I mean, anywhere there's a situation, he shows up, he tries to get headlines, used to extort corporations.
He's a demagogue.
He does not want what is best for black America.
I think he's one of the most despicable people in public life.
And look, this I miss fat Al Sharpton.
I think he was a jollier person.
Now he's just nasty and mean and cruel.
So Al Sharpton, never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity, shows up to the funeral of the schizophrenic criminal who unfortunately died in a chokehold.
Well, I don't even know what it was a chokehold.
It was a restraint.
That's a technical debate, but let's just say it was a restraint on the subway.
So Al Charlatan shows up and, of course, then falsely claims that Neely didn't threaten anyone.
Look, no one should celebrate the death of Neely.
Nobody wanted that situation, Daniel Penny included.
But as Aristotle said, justice is the messiest of all the virtues.
And when you have vigilante street citizen justice, which is what happens when the state does not do its job, you're going to have tragic outcomes.
It's unfortunate.
The city of New York is responsible for it, but Daniel Penny should not serve a day in prison.
Daniel Penny is a hero, period.
Hard stop.
And Al Sharpton comes out and says, Give me more money.
Give me more money.
Play cut 21.
There was no weapons.
There was no language.
Nobody was threatened.
And you grab him and put them in a chokehold.
Two people help hold them down.
And you go to the precinct and they let you go.
If Jordan was impersonating Elvis Presley, if Jordan had been a different race and they had him impersonating Elvis, and a black guy put Elvis impersonated in a chokehold, and two black guys held him down, they would not have let that black guy leave the precinct that night.
My name is Al Sharpton.
I've been relevant in decades.
Maybe this is my time.
You are a bad person, Al Sharpton.
You are a vile human being.
You are a disgusting pile of garbage.
You don't represent the black community.
These people clamoring as this kind of race tribal politics.
How about you tell the truth?
Daniel Penny was not walking in the subway saying, oh boy, I'm going to go find a Michael Jackson impersonator.
Was Al Sharpton really saying that if it was Elvis Presley, he wouldn't have.
There's nothing about impersonation.
Hey, Al Charlatan.
You know what Jordan Neely said?
Jordan Neely said, I'm ready to go back to jail.
Every third-party report is affirming Daniel Penny was a hero here.
Every third-party report, they're thanking him for doing this.
If a white schizophrenic criminal was put in a chokehold by a black Good Samaritan on a New York City subway and inadvertently died, do you think AOC would show up at this white man's funeral?
Of course not.
These are bigots.
And Al Charlatan has not cared about the well-being of black America his entire career.
Al Charlatan has made millions of dollars pimping out the idea of American racism.
He platoons in in his Schaufer car.
Let me just show you how disgusting this is.
This is his video with the Michael Jackson overlay of him kind of coming out of the car, people greeting him as if he's some sort of a dignitary, as if it's the man who's come from the heavens to come spend time with us.
Play cut 23.
Just so you know, it's Al Sharpton coming out.
You should be blessed by my presence.
I is a race hustler.
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Super interesting guest right now, Chadwick Moore, who is writing the authorized biography, just called Tucker.
And Chadwick, I got to ask you, you could not have timed a better time to kind of be in the mix in the rumor mill.
I mean, this is pretty amazing.
You are right into the center of one of the most interesting, drama-filled and confusing media stories of a generation.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
And we were already going to announce the book this time of year.
Of course, had to do a lot of rewriting, add a bunch of stuff with this bombshell news, of course, with his show being pulled from Fox.
And it's not actually an authorized biography.
I have total editorial independence in writing this book.
I hung out with Tucker, spent tons of time with him, had unprecedented access.
And, you know, but with the story that we put up on Twitter is, you're right, this is a fascinating media drama that's been unfolding.
And there's been a lot of rumors about why Fox pulled his show.
He is still employed by Fox, actually.
He's not fired.
He's still under contract.
He did nothing to violate his contract.
They did not give him a reason why he was fired.
They just called him and I'm sorry, not fired.
I keep saying that, but you know what I mean.
They did not give him a reason.
They just said, we're pulling your show off the air.
That's that.
He was left to speculate for a long time.
I was talking to him throughout this entire process over the last few weeks.
But I've had several sources independently confirm to me the reason.
And that is, they say, because it was a condition of the settlement with Dominion Voting Systems that they would take Tucker off the air.
Now, this is really fascinating stuff because Dominion has denied this, of course.
But Tucker, if people remember this, didn't really push the theory on his show about the systems being rigged.
And in fact, he pushed back more strongly than almost anyone on Fox against people like Sidney Powell, who he sort of thought was a whack job.
But someone, it appears, at Dominion, the small group of investors that owns Dominion, doesn't like him if this is true, and wanted him pulled off the air ahead of a presidential election.
Okay, so there's a lot there.
Let's just kind of go back in time to make sure we have the timeline correct.
Is it based on all your reporting and your conversations with Tucker correct that Tucker Carlson wakes up on Monday morning with zero warning, zero whispers?
He was planning his show, writing his monologue for the night, and he gets a phone call from who saying what?
So, correct.
He woke up.
He already wrote his monologue, which is unusual for him.
He usually is writing it just before he goes live.
And he'd already finished it, sent it to his producers, and he got a phone call from Fox News president Suzanne Scott, who told him that we're taking your show off the air.
Thank you very much.
At the same time, other Fox executives called his executive producer, Justin Wells, and told him the same news.
So it was a coordinated one, too.
Justin then immediately got, he was here in New York, got in a plane and flew down to see Tucker.
But that's what happens.
That's how all unfolded.
Okay, so when do you think, speculating, that decision was made?
Was it the Friday before?
Was it from the executive team?
Because it was obviously coordinated.
One, two, punch.
Based on your reporting, your research, when was it decided to pull the plug?
Or was it decided in a verbal agreement with a voting machine company eight days prior?
So what my sources believe to be the case is that it was decided the day.
They told me moments before Dominion and Fox were set to go to trial.
And the reason why they did not, Fox did not want to go to trial.
And my source said because they did not want Rupert Murdoch to testify, which he would have had to.
So my sources said this agreement was reached just moments before the trial was supposed to start.
So this would have been about six days, seven days before he got the call.
So there was some time in between, according to what sources have told me.
Okay, so I mean, and Tucker obviously said we'll be back on Monday and the Friday before his show.
So this was a blindside operation.
So he gets, that's interesting.
Actually, explain this to me.
Is he fired?
Is he still an employee of the Fox News Corporation?
So can you, can we get our vocabulary clear?
Because this is confusing to me.
Yes.
Yes, he is.
I slip up to and say fired a lot too, but he is still an employee of Fox News.
That's crazy.
He just the other day got his paycheck, he told me, as we were talking on the phone.
So he's still an employee of Fox News.
He's still under contract.
They really couldn't fire him from what I understand because he did nothing to violate his contract.
So, but, you know, of course, there's, I've not seen his contract, but you can imagine there's all sorts of non-competes in there, et cetera, et cetera.
So, but his announcement that he's going to be doing something on Twitter appears to fit in with his contract that he's not in violation of something.
And for various other reasons that he wanted to go to Twitter, which he told me about.
Okay, so he gets the news.
He's intentionally not leaving, right?
He's not leaving because then he would lose all leverage and they would still have a non-compete.
What do you know about his non-compete?
That would probably go till what, spring of 2025?
It is late 2024, is his concept.
For the next election.
For the election, yes.
And so the bombshell news that has been percolating, and you have sources that are confirming, and this is the big, big thing, right?
I want to make sure everyone understands how bizarre, unprecedented, and how pernicious this is.
A company that is in charge of counting our votes, Dominion, a tabulation company that is supposed to be nonpartisan, demanded a cable news channel basically sideline one of their hosts.
Have we ever seen anything like this, Chadwick?
I mean, this is a voting tabulation company.
What the heck?
It's unprecedented.
And I have heard from lawyers who've been dealing in the media sphere for decades, for 40 years.
The lawyers who deal with the Foxes and the CNNs and the MSNBCs out there.
And they, number one, they believe this to be the case as well, based on what they've heard on the gossip mill.
And number two, they have said they've never seen anything like it, that it's absolutely unprecedented.
Yeah, and so Dominion did not necessarily even have a bone to pick with Tucker, which then leads us to believe that other external forces who did want Tucker to be taken out, right?
Corporate power, neoliberals, Ukraine war, porn producers, you know, the vaccine people, they did they then work, we're speculating, but were they then in relationship with the Dominion people saying, hey, ask for the order, we'll take care of you.
I mean, let's build this out based on the information we have.
Is it fair to say that other external neoliberal forces via Dominion got Tucker sidelined?
I suppose it's possible.
So Dominion is owned by a private equity firm called Staple Street Capital.
And I mean, if this is true, and once again, they've denied it.
There was a video on Twitter a few days ago of a Fox News producer from another show who also said this.
I don't know this producer.
He's not one of my sources.
But if this is the case, I mean, it says to me that there's someone at that company or a group of people on that board that simply don't like Trump.
They don't like Trumpism.
You know, Tucker was obviously the biggest vector for Trumpism in the country.
There are a lot of people who have a lot of interest in who becomes president of the United States.
It's the most important job in the world.
And there's a lot of people who would do anything to control who does and who does not get that job.
So if this is indeed the case, this is, I believe, what we're looking at.
When it comes to, before this information came to me and became and was let out by other sources as well, there was a lot of speculation, obviously, that maybe someone had to do with the war in Ukraine, had to do with his reporting on J6, it had to do with his reporting on vaccines.
All of that, of course, is the reasons why he was so hated by both the establishment left and the right, because he did have a counter narrative on those issues.
But I asked him specifically if he thought any of those things had to do with it.
I asked him, particularly about Ukraine, because I sort of felt that maybe that was the key.
And he said to me that no, he said the Murdochs are very, they're in support of the war.
They support Zielinski.
They're big Zelensky guys.
But he said that they had told him personally, we disagree with you on the war, but we're not going to control what you have to say.
We're happy to disagree.
He said he was always thankful for that.
Fox never really, Fox said, no editorial say in what he put on the air.
He didn't have to get anything approved by anyone.
And so it's obvious that executives and other anchors at Fox have vastly different views than Tucker did, but everyone left him alone.
So there remains a lot of speculation about that.
Now, whether someone pressured this to happen because of any one of those issues, I'm certain is possible.
I mean, I think so.
The other question is: why are Republican states still going to use Dominion if Dominion, if, Dominion is demanding the firing of a cable television host who's a conservative?
Voting machine companies shouldn't be doing that, right?
Yeah, I'd be interested to see which states are using that and also, you know, what maybe they have some sort of a contract or what a legal situation is with them using those machines.
But it's certainly interesting.
And I wonder if people start talking about this.
So is the book available for pre-order just before I get too ahead of myself?
Yes, it is.
You can go to tuckerthebook.com.
You can order or anywhere that books are sold.
You can order it.
It'll be out July 18th, but you can pre-order it now.
Okay.
So, Chadwick, the other wrinkle of this, which makes this so interesting, is the leaks.
Based on your reporting or your talking, who do you think was the one that leaked Tucker's text message to the New York Times?
So my sources believe that it was someone at Fox who did that.
And they have mentioned that They didn't give me a name, but I've seen other people mention that woman, Irena, who had a Bergatti.
But, you know, Tucker was very hurt by that.
You know, he said that the New York Times, Fox appeared to smear him in the New York Times and say he was fired because he was racist.
And there's actually nothing racist in that text message.
That's the best thing that they have.
And I think it proves just how not racist Tucker is.
And but that, you know, he was very hurt.
He was like, I don't understand why they're trying to disparage me.
That's very hurtful and kicked me on the way out.
But people seem to think that it was someone at Fox who did release those text messages.
I have not, and I have no confirmation of that.
So, Chadwick, can you explain to us the Twitter strategy?
He's doing something on Twitter.
He said, we're going to now do our show.
And then we haven't heard anything for a couple of weeks.
What's going on there?
Right.
So Twitter is relaunching its video service.
Twitter's now branded as XCorp.
That's the name of the company.
And they're launching a video service, I believe, called X-Video that they want to compete with YouTube.
And it's going to be for long-form video content.
So this is where he has said and indicated that he's going to go next.
Basically, they're going to test it out, see what the product is like.
If they like it, stay there.
If not, maybe go somewhere else.
But that seems to be, that's the next step, which he's also announced himself on his Twitter page.
Yeah.
And so it's very interesting to see there.
So tell us about Tucker, the person.
I mean, getting to know him, being with his family.
What is it that you want our audience to learn about Tucker?
He is, as you mentioned before, he's very irreverent.
He's really funny, whip smart, but he's very deep and he's very sensitive.
He and his wife have, his wife Susie, have one of the most loving and wonderful relationships I've ever seen.
They are so in love with one another and they've been together since they were 15 years old, which is pretty amazing.
His family is wonderful.
His father is a really, really interesting guy, Dick Carlson.
And, you know, Tucker just wants to, having come, you know, one day we're sitting in his kitchen talking about trees for an hour, and it was just one of the best conversations I've ever had.
And he's just wildly entertaining.
It's interesting that even people on the left who know him and media professionals will comment on how they like him as a person.
You know, they might hate his views.
They might think he's the antichrist on television, but they admit that he's a really good, decent man in real life.
And to be fair, I've heard the same thing about people like Rachel Maddow, for one, who I mentioned in this book and his thoughts on her a lot.
So that's, I think, what anyone who meets Tucker says about him.
You know, I got him just being himself in this book for days and days that I spent with him and just riffing about this and that and being funny and being who he is.
So in closing here, we need more Tucker Carlson.
You know, if you were to guesstimate, do you think by Christmas we'll have Tucker liberated in some ways?
I mean, what are you, if you were just to say, hey, here's what I think is going to happen, what do you think that would be?
I'm really not sure.
And I don't have any specific knowledge.
I've only read reports that there might be a legal battle ensuing about this contract and what's happening.
And if Fox maybe violated their part of the contract.
So I really don't know.
I don't know if he's going to roll off the Twitter show tomorrow or in a year.
I don't know what's going to happen.
All right.
Well, check out the new book, Tucker by Chadwick Moore.
Chadwick, thanks so much.
Thanks, Charlie.
My pleasure.
Appreciate it.
Come back anytime.
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