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May 9, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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A Racial Reparations Reckoning with Libby Emmons and Julie Kelly
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Reparations and Wealth Redistribution 00:09:37
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
This is Andrew Colvett, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show, filling in for Charlie Kirk one more time.
And boy, is it an honor.
I got to speak with Libby Emmons in this episode, editor-in-chief of the post-millennial and human events.
One of the absolute force of nature in conservative media and really just honest media.
There doesn't need to be any more qualifiers than that.
And we talk about reparations.
Ooh, California is doing some weird, weird things per usual, but this is even weirder.
It really needs to be exposed for just how insane it is.
And then we talked with Julie Kelly from American Greatness about the Proud Boys trial that happened last Thursday.
They were convicted.
What does it mean for President Trump?
And was he set up?
Was President Trump set up?
We go through a really fascinating chronology there that you're not going to want to miss because I bet you haven't heard it yet.
All right, everybody.
Don't go anywhere.
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Here we go.
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Libby Emmons, editor-in-chief of the post-millennial, is joining us, an absolute force in nature in the conservative movement, conservative media.
Libby, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Hey, Andrew, thanks so much.
Well, thank you for being here.
So we're going to be talking about California reparations, near $800 billion, just got approved by this committee.
I want to tie it into what's happening with Jordan Neely in New York City and the subways there.
And then just to make it all more interesting, I want to talk about how this ties in with 2024.
So no small task here before us.
We've got a mere 15 minutes to get through all this, but it's going to be exciting with you, Libby.
So break down what's happening in California.
What the heck are they thinking?
I mean, they have a $22.5 billion deficit, if I'm not mistaken, right now.
$22.5 billion.
And they just want to give away $800 billion.
Am I reading this right?
Yeah.
So Gavin Newsom put together this task force for reparations in 2021.
I can't help but think that he was majorly influenced by the whole George Floyd situation at that time, which was, as we all remember, fiery but peaceful.
So this reparations board has come out and they have determined that reparations, yes, are indeed necessary.
Race-based redistribution of wealth is entirely necessary, they say.
And they've approved 1.2 million per up to 1.2 million per eligible black person in the state of California.
Watched our group said that this is something like 800 billion in costs.
Meanwhile, California was not a slave state.
It was a free state when it entered the union.
So I don't know why California thinks that it's their responsibility to make reparations for the slave states that existed at the time of California's entrance.
Not to interrupt you, Libby, but like, what does it matter if you were a slave state?
Nobody alive today owns slaves and nobody alive today was a slave.
I mean, unless they are being smuggled across the border or something.
It's just a ridiculous idea.
On top of everything else, it makes it more ridiculous.
So, Gavin Newsom is already ridiculous.
This entire reparations board, and you see these people on the news sitting in nice places, wearing nice clothes, talking about how oppressed they are.
And then it turns out, on top of everything else, California has absolutely no liability in the history of slavery.
So, that by itself just angers me even more.
It makes me more annoyed about this whole thing.
But, what this is, is a race-based redistribution of wealth, as I said before.
And this is not something that America should stand by and accept, no matter what the race is of the people who claim to be oppressed.
It's absolutely insane to take money from people who have earned it and give it to other people for no other reason than the color of their skin.
And as you said, yes, no one alive today was enslaved.
People are descended from people who were enslaved, but most white people in the United States weren't even here during the time of slavery anyway.
I'm pretty sure.
My immigrant ancestors came here 100 years ago.
So, what are we even talking about?
Whose money are we trying to take and give it to who?
Yeah, this is a great point you're making, actually.
I mean, and I kind of have a similar ancestry.
I have some that go all the way back, but I have a lot of my ancestors, you know, came in the 1880s, 1890s.
I had a great grandpa that came in like the, I think, the teens or the 20s.
I mean, so none of this stuff makes any logical sense.
And I don't think that's the point.
And I think you're hitting, you're hitting at the deeper issue here, and that is that they will use an ideological pretzel.
They will twist themselves into an ideological pretzel in order to achieve their end.
So, it doesn't matter what the justification is.
It doesn't matter if it's correct.
If it doesn't matter if it's slavery, right?
Insert cause here.
If it's not slavery, they're going to go to redlining, right?
And as a matter of fact, I have a clip that suggests that.
It's kind of a longer clip, cut 16, cue it up for us.
We might pull it in a second.
But the point is that they want this racial redistribution of wealth because they hate whiteness.
I mean, I think that's ultimately what this is.
And that's why there's so many of us on the right that are scratching our heads and saying this is patently absurd on its face.
Yet you guys are this committee for reparations.
You're just going to rubber stamp this stuff and you're going to put a 2024 potential hopeful in a very interesting position, which is kind of why I want to tie that in in the next segment.
But Libby, you know, okay, here we go.
Let's play Cut 16.
I want to get your response to it.
Cut 16.
How do you qualify for it, though?
Because there obviously are people who perhaps have just moved into California.
They wouldn't be eligible, would they?
Or would they?
Well, what they've done here with this particular measure that I looked at, that they have tried to tie it into particular things.
So, for example, if you lived in California for a set amount of years and you could have theoretically been redlined, which was an act done by the Housing Department, which discriminated against communities, you could receive money if you have been arrested within a certain range of years.
You could have been a victim of mass incarceration, Incarceration, so to speak.
I mean, the criteria for this is so sloppy.
It's so unrefined.
And frankly, it's so downright shameful that I'm not entirely sure, you know, how they can justify this themselves.
So you heard the logic.
It's the red line, which I predicted, but I did not predict that if you had been the victim, the victim, now we're talking about the gaslighting of the American people.
If you've been the victim of mass incarceration, Libby.
Yeah, again, if you were incarcerated, you have served your time to society and nothing further should be asked of you because of that, nor should you be asking anything further from anyone else unless you actually were innocent, in which case there are ways to go about, you know, getting your record expunged or what have you and people sue about that.
But that's not even what we're talking about.
We're talking about, not at all.
No, we're talking about taking money from one group of people and giving it to another group of people based entirely on their skin color, as though these people are the victims just across the board of everything.
And this is, of course, such a huge problem in our society right now, this grievance culture, this need to declare your level of oppression, this need to say that you have been victimized, to cross your arms over your chest and demand that people pay attention to you in exactly the appropriate way that you want them to pay attention to you.
And it's not reasonable.
The level of pride that goes into demanding that everyone else treat you a certain way and bow down to the things that you have experienced in your life is just absurd and it's anti-American.
And we should all know this, right?
America is a country where you have people coming here looking for a better life, looking to earn a living, raise their children in a free place without a lot of constraints.
And this is the kind of thing that is getting in the way of that.
And what I think too, I mean, we're not talking really about immigration, but as we look at the masses of illegal immigrants lining up at the border trying to get in, we have a progressive left demanding that all these people be let in so that they can have a better life, but also saying that the United States is so horribly, miserably racist that it's dangerous for black people to walk in.
And brown people.
And brown people.
Yes, of course.
I have a pretty good tan.
I'm just, you know, I don't know if they men in dresses and everybody else.
Subway Footage Reveals Insanity 00:05:55
You know, but it's just insane.
Like, why the cognitive dissonance that we see going on, the lack of logical thinking is mind-boggling.
And it's hard to even express it sometimes.
Look out at this.
I mean, talk about what we're experiencing.
Talk about cognitive dissonance.
I'm going to throw this image up.
This is a USA Today caption.
Jordan Neely, who obviously died after being subdued in a chokehold on a New York City subway.
This is how USA Today describes him.
A beloved subway performer grew up in a family of musicians who want him to be remembered as a human being, a family lawyer said.
This is the gaslighting of America.
I mean, this is absolutely insane.
The guy punched a 64-year-old grandma, attempted to kidnap a seven-year-old girl in a subway.
And this is the way the media addresses him.
Libby, 10 seconds, then we'll get it on the other side of the break.
What does this tell you about our mainstream news media?
It shows us that they have never actually ridden a New York City subway.
No subway performer is beloved.
We all hate that.
It's terrible.
You don't want the acrobats.
You don't want the people begging for money.
It's awful.
Libby, you guys were one of the first outlets that I saw yesterday.
And I actually saw that Charlie tweeted this link, but here you have it from the post-millennial.
Full footage reveals former Marine Daniel Penny putting Jordan Neely in recovery position, passengers complimenting him.
You know, this is graphic footage, folks, but it's important because what you have here is you have AOC and her ilk wanting to stoke a race riot.
They're taking over the subway system in New York City.
And yet here, this footage, and we didn't play the audio because it's hard to hear, but just believe us that there are fellow passengers complimenting the former Maureen Penny for his handling of the situation.
And you actually will see in this footage that...
Neely is still moving and they are trying to resuscitate him or bring him back to consciousness.
I mean, they keep saying, oh, he's going to be fine.
He's going to be fine.
He just needs to kind of get his air back.
What do you make of this?
And Libby, how did you get this so quickly?
I mean, you guys were so fast on this footage.
Yeah, so actually we did not find the footage.
It was found by misinformed Milwaukee, who are really close friends of ours.
And Sean Frasik is the one who found it.
It occurred to him to go looking for a Spanish language post about it.
And so that's where he found it.
It was a Spanish language post on Facebook.
He sent it over to us and we wrote it up right away.
Tremendous.
Yeah.
So that's how we ended up with it.
I think it's important to note when you look at this footage that and what happened to Mr. Neely, it's really important to note that it takes a lot for New Yorkers to get out of their chairs on the subway and to actually deal with a crazy person on the subway.
It takes a lot.
So I lived in New York for a very long time.
I love New York very much.
Being on the subway with crazy people, what you typically do, I mean, there's crazy, I've been on the subway with people running around the car with knives, screaming and yelling.
And everybody just keeps their eyes down and hopes that the crazy person doesn't target you.
I've been sat next to people on men on very crowded trains and had them do absolutely horrible things to themselves while rubbing up against me and trying to get people to move out of the way so that I could get out of the seat.
Seriously.
So it takes an awful lot for New Yorkers to get up and do something.
So this man must have been really behaving in a nuts and crazy way for New Yorkers to step up and try and subdue him.
And I don't think that people who don't travel the subway every day really understand how common an occurrence it is to have lunatics on the subway screaming that they're going to kill everybody and sometimes they are armed.
He said he was ready to go back to jail and he said that he was willing to hurt anybody in that train.
We know that for a fact.
Now, let me tie these, let me tie these stories together.
We got to move quick here, sadly.
I wish I could have more time with you, Libby.
But here's the tie-in.
I mean, you tweeted something that I found interesting.
You said that Twitter's basically saving lives.
It got this story out.
It's not being censored because Elon owns Twitter now and we can actually speak the truth.
So let me tie these two disparate storylines in together because I want to get your take on it.
This Marine's life, former Marine's life, may be saved by the fact that the real truth and the information is now circulated on social media.
And I think we're winning the messaging war on Jordan Neely.
I think he looks like a guy who had 42 priors.
I think their insanity is showing.
Now, but here's what else I think is interesting.
I haven't seen anybody make this point.
ABC WAPO now has Joe Biden losing to both Trump and DeSantis by seven.
He is at a historic low in his presidency.
Now, I don't know that that would happen if Twitter didn't have free speech on it.
I'm wondering, Libby, is this a result of free speech nation of free speech Elon?
And I have a great clip I want to show you, but I want to get your take first.
What do you think?
Is this, I mean, can we, what's happening here?
What's behind this?
I think it, you know, I think it really could be.
And I think you're right that the messaging has changed on this Jordan Neely situation.
People are not willing to be just pushed aside anymore and told some truth and then regurgitating it.
And it really only takes one or two people to stand up for everyone who has been looking to stand up to say, hey, yeah, me too.
That's not fair.
That's not true.
That's not what happened.
You see it with Elon Musk and his free speech revolution.
Everyone's just like, yeah, that's right.
We saw it with J.K. Rowling, where she came out and said, you know, women are actually adult human females.
And everyone was like, yeah, that's right.
So it really only takes one person to stand up on a platform.
Libby, she's hated.
She's hated, but she has the courage.
NAD Boosts High Performance 00:03:32
And that's the thing I'm seeing.
And I want to make that point.
Folks, if you're listening and you're out there, you are not alone and you know it.
And there are voices.
And I think it's almost taken the conservative movement, maybe, you know, since Trump 2016, learning how to fight back loud, proud, bold without apology.
And now you're seeing all of those efforts and all those wins come to fruition with this Jordan Neely thing and maybe with gun issues and many other things.
We will not be cowed.
Libby, I wish I had more time.
I'm looking at the clock here.
I want to give you your final out because you deserve it, but you are so fantastic.
Thank you for joining the Charlie Kirk Show.
Thanks, Andrew.
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FBI Conspiracy Against Trump 00:16:13
I am very excited to speak with our next guest, Julie Kelly.
She's a columnist at American Greatness, and she has been covering what's been going on with this.
You know, some might call it a Fed surrection, others might call it a witch hunt.
I don't know.
You take your pick.
Better than anybody in the country.
She is absolutely the expert.
Julie, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Thank you for making the time.
Hey, Andrew, so nice to see you.
We text all the time, but it's nice to see you in person.
Thanks for having me on.
Well, I appreciate it.
So, you have been doing humans' work on this story, and you've been really keeping us up to date.
I wanted to get you on on Friday.
We texted about it, but you had other things you had to get done, which we, for you, we will make the exception.
I want to have you on today.
Now, you made, and the reason I think it's important is not just because you're the great Julie Kelly.
I think it's important because you made a prediction based on this case, what would happen to President Trump moving forward?
It was a bombshell.
I think we titled the podcast based on your prediction that day.
I mean, it was quite an alarming thing.
So, let's just one step back before I'm just teasing that.
What happened on Thursday?
Um, and why is this case important and where were the controversies at?
So, the bombshell, and I know people had a lot of difficulty, and they have had difficulty, Andrew, with my predicting and warning them for months that this Department of Justice and now special counsel Jack Smith, I use quotations, air quotations for him, will bring forward probably, well, it will be a multi-count criminal indictment against Donald Trump at some point this year.
What happened Thursday was the conviction of four of five members of the Proud Boys, including their leader Enrique Tario, on charges of seditious conspiracy.
This is a post-Civil War statute, Andrew, that had to apply to Confederate soldiers or members of the Confederacy who still wanted to overthrow the government of the United States.
It has nothing to do with people who walked into the Capitol building, who committed no violent crime.
Enrique Atario wasn't even in Washington, D.C.
But the reason why these convictions pose such great legal peril for Donald Trump is because President Trump was a key figure throughout this case and throughout the trial.
And as I explained in my piece at Am Greatness last week, I went to closing arguments last week, and the very first clip that Assistant U.S. Attorney Connor Mulro played for the jury was not of the Proud Boys committing seditious conspiracy.
It was Donald Trump's comment in the presidential debate in September of 2020 when, after being goaded by Fox News host Chris Wallace and Joe Biden, who specifically told him to say Proud Boys, Donald Trump said, Proud boys stand back and stand by.
That, according to this DOJ, was sort of a call to arms, enlisting these Proud Boys to commit seditious conspiracy, insurrection, whatever you want to call it.
Interesting.
So that's why these guilty verdicts are so dangerous of Donald Trump.
I don't have the clip here.
Ryan, see if you can get that exact clip from the 2020 presidential debate.
So paint the scene.
So Trump's standing, he's sparring with Biden, Chris Wallace, you know, CNN's Chris Wallace, but he was then with Fox.
Okay.
So he goads him into saying, will you tell the Proud Boys, like Trump controls the Proud Boys, right?
Is that essentially what happened?
He goads him into, will you tell the Proud Boys to not, you know, if you lose to not insurrect, I guess.
Is that what happened?
Well, no, because nothing was even really on the table.
Of course, January 6th wasn't even a thought yet, as you know.
What was happening was Donald Trump was being very successful in condemning Joe Biden and the Democrats for their support of BLM and Antifa riots, which of course rocked the country, including Washington, D.C., for months.
And so he kept pointing to Joe Biden, the Democrats' support of this, you know, bending the knee, etc.
And Chris Wallace interrupted, as of course, Chris Wallace loves to do, ran defense for Joe Biden and said, Well, Mr. President, but why don't you condemn white supremacist, violent militia groups who committed crimes in Kenosha and Portland?
Like the Proud Boys are comparable to what Antifa was doing in Portland or anything that happened in Kenosha.
And so Trump said, Okay, fine, I will give me a name.
He didn't even know who they were talking about.
Joe Biden, standing right next to him, says the Proud Boys.
So Trump says reflexively, Okay, Proud Boys, stand back and speak.
Totally.
Almost like just to throw fine, fine.
Yeah.
Insert name here.
Just don't even know what they were.
But Joe Biden, Joe Biden set him up.
That's fascinating.
You know, it kind of makes you ask the question: it's like, well, how many layers to this story are there?
Now, I don't give Joe Biden a lot of credit for being able to knit together a three-dimensional chess like, you know, Deep State.
I mean, but his handlers could have given him like, you know, a three by five with, you know, Proud Boys written on it.
And maybe that would have stuck.
And it, you know, apparently it did.
So is your assertion here that they were this was maybe a backup plan, even?
Because I remember the debates and everybody kept asking, Will you accept the results of the 2020 presidential election?
Will you accept the results?
Wait, because Trump was already warning about mail and balloting.
He was warning about signature verification.
He was basically the only one doing it, and nobody was taking any action.
So, of course, the left-wing media was like, Will you accept the, you know, it almost makes you think about.
So, if you layer this on top of what you know, and your reporting has been so phenomenal on this, Julie.
Now, a lot of people like to call it a Fed surrection, right?
You know, you're not allowed to say that on certain network TV, but we're here we're going to say it.
Do you believe that the FBI was intimately involved in the events that unfolded on January 5th and 6th?
And do you, I mean, does it play into the clip that you're talking about from the 2020 debates?
That's such a great question, Andrew.
And that's why it was so important for these Proud Boys to go to trial.
Because what the government stipulated, and that means they admit it, is that they had at least eight FBI informants involved in the Proud Boys months before January 6th.
We know at least two of them were on the ground with the Proud Boys during the first breach point, which you may recall another person was there with them too, Ray Epps, who to this day remains uncharged.
He was just there, though, Julie, to keep the peace.
I'm just, you know, don't mean to correct the record here, but no, keep going.
So you're saying two, at least two of these FBI informants were at the initial point of breach.
They were.
They were on the ground with the Proud Boys.
One of them was communicating with his FBI handler and specifically telling his FBI handler, the Proud Boys are not responsible for this.
This basically turned into a mob, an angry mob.
They did not orchestrate it.
There was no pre-planning.
There's no evidence or texts that lays out an attack on the Capitol.
Fact, Andrew, the one document that the government said for months was responsible that was sort of this roadmap for the Proud Boys seditious conspiracy plan was called 1776 Returns.
What comes out in trial is not only did none of the Proud Boys author it, Enrique Terrio, the leader who it was emailed to, never even opened it or saw it.
And it was sourced back to a one-time or perhaps current intelligence official who wrote that, sent it to a friend of Enrique Tario, told her to send it to Terrio.
That was the document they said.
They never brought it up in closing arguments.
It all disappeared.
But it doesn't matter, Andrew, because they're going before DC jury, right?
I mean, you had the juror interview that came out on Friday.
This juror said on the first day they decided these guys, four of five of them, were guilty of treason, basically, by opposing by force the government of the United States.
How do you do that with no weapons, Andrew?
That's such an important point.
If a bunch of right-wing militias wanted to insurrect and wanted to take over their government, that's not what it looks like, folks.
That's not what it looks like.
That was a what do you call it?
It was an overflow.
It was a protest gone bad.
Obviously, we're not condoning the events, all the events of January 6th, but that is not what a right-wing militia.
You know what that says to me is that these people that are claiming it is that have been living in some blue city bubble their entire lives with metropolitan like ice lattes and all of this stuff.
If you grew up in the country, if you grew up in rural America and Red America, you know that's not what it looks like.
That was absolutely, I mean, this is how I know how insane it all is.
But like, let's go back to this.
And I actually have this clip now, 35, and we have a minute till break, Julie.
I'm going to keep you after, but let's play this clip because you teased it earlier.
This is what you're saying.
Jack Smith is referencing to tie in Donald Trump and your prediction that he's going to be indicted.
So play cut 35.
But are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we've seen in Portland?
Are you prepared to specifically do it?
I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing, not from the right wing.
What are you saying?
I'm willing to do anything.
I want to see peace.
Let's do it, sir.
Say it.
Do it.
Say it.
You want to call him, what do you want to call him?
Give me a name.
Give me a name.
White supremacists and rights.
Proud protests and rights.
Proud boys, stand back and stand by.
But I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you what.
The more that I watch that clip, I mean, I got chills.
I was texting you.
I got chills.
Joe Biden fed him the line.
I know you said that before, but watching him do it, you know, Trump's like, of course I, you know, white supremacists, I don't want anything to do with white supremacists.
What do you want to call him?
And Joe Biden goes, Proud Boys, Proud Boys, Proud Boys.
And he goes, Sure, Proud Boy.
Stand, you know, stand by, stand down.
But what's crazy here, and I was texting you, it's a total setup.
So then you find out that you've got at least eight FBI informants embedded within the Proud Boys who have become like, you know, the poster child for like insurrection or something, which is hilarious if you know anything about the Proud Boys.
But what's crazy is it feels like a setup to me, Julie.
How would, if it was a setup, and you could start your idea here, I want to take it on the other side of the break.
How would Biden have known this?
Just play it out.
Devil's advocate.
Well, what was happening in 2020 was the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers were supposed to be sort of the antidote to BLM and Antifa.
And the Proud Boys were showing up in areas where BLM and Antifa were ransacking cities, destroying the Portland courthouse, attacking, assaulting people in Kenosha and other, and in Washington, D.C., by the way.
They were really there.
And there was a joke that came out during the trial.
One of the witnesses said, I can't decide if the Proud Boys is a drinking group with a political problem or a political problem with a political group with a drinking problem.
So they're just kind of rapport browsers, but they were really there to protect people.
That's what Joe Biden was doing.
And then, lo and behold, you know, two and a half months later, here they are, the insurrectionist Proud Boys.
Yeah, but they don't bring it up in the trial, obviously.
I mean, the whole thing's so corrupt, Julie.
It just is, it's infuriating.
All right.
So I was asking you before if Joe Biden knew that there was Proud Boys embedded, or FBI informants, rather, embedded with the Proud Boys.
And if he was in on the story, was it a setup when he pushed them, Trump, actually in that debate to say Proud Boys?
Was it a setup?
And if so, how did he know the Proud Boys would be useful to him later?
It was, I don't suspect it was necessarily a setup for January 6th, but the setup was then to tie Donald Trump to what the media, Department of Justice, FBI, Democrats consider this right-wing domestic violent extremist group called the Proud Boys.
So that was really the purpose.
Now, you'll remember, though, here's another part: what happened the next month?
So, Trump, not next month, a week or two later.
So, he says this to the Proud Boys, the media goes crazy.
You know, oh, he said the Proud Boys stand by, which he did.
And I think he meant to tell them to stand down and stand back, not stand by.
Right.
What happens two weeks later?
Six men are arrested on federal conspiracy to kidnap charges in the fednapping scheme against Gretchen Whitmer.
So this all ties together.
And the FBI for sure is orchestrating it.
Bill Barr, the attorney general, there's no way he didn't know about it.
So this was all to tie Trump to these extremist groups.
And unfortunately, his comment there added fuel to the fire, even though it's not what he intended.
He didn't know who the Proud Boys were.
He said later, I have no idea who they were.
And you can clearly see he didn't.
He was goaded by Joe Biden, not once, but twice.
This is what's always the tell, right?
And I've dealt with this with left-wing journalists that'll give me a call asking for me for insight on something or other.
And, you know, I remember I got a call on the Boogaloo, whatever.
I didn't know what it was.
Yes, I didn't know.
Right.
I know.
But it's like, and I know it's like kind of this compicated group.
I don't know anything about it.
They just assume that I, you know, and it's, it's just, it's the tell that they're more obsessed with it than we are.
I mean, we, we want some pretty common sense things: closed border, no reparations, uh, rule of law, criminals to go to jail and not be released the next day.
I mean, we're not, you know, the vast majority of the conservative movement is not obsessed with these issues.
But, Julie, I mean, tie it back into what's going to happen next, right?
So, we've got this special prosecutor.
What should the American people be looking toward next?
What is what are the next dominoes to fall?
Paint the picture.
The next dominoes to fall outside of what's happening in Georgia in terms of out of this Department of Justice will be indictments for two areas that special counsel Jack Smith's office/slash DOJ is looking into, and that is the handling of classified documents, possibly obstruction of justice related to the movement or housing storage of those documents.
But his greatest legal liability is going to be for January 6th, obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy, tampering with evidence, and witnesses, but now seditious conspiracy.
And this is a charge, a felony charge that is up to punishable by up to 20 years in prison.
So now that he's tied to these convictions and this case as a key figure in the government's case against these Proud Boys, Jack Smith, and you could see it over the weekend.
And I'll have a column up tonight about this.
You had everyone from Adam Schiff to Jamie Raskin to other, I'm trying to think who is that?
Oh, Dan Goldman.
They all understand what this means.
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And they are saying, well, you can't just, Jamie Raskin said, you can't just throw the foot soldiers in jail.
You have to throw the leader, the guy who took their marching orders for the insurrection.
You got to get him too.
Yeah, absolutely.
I can't wait for that column to come out.
We'll talk about it on the show probably tomorrow.
But just real quick, we got a minute before the hour.
So give it just a, is there any way that you, any evidence that you've seen that would actually tie the Trump administration to marching orders delivered to the Proud Boys or any of these other groups?
Has any evidence been?
It's just that one clip.
It doesn't matter.
Andrew, nothing in this DC legal and judicial system matters.
You know that.
Rule of law, evidence.
These judges will give the government whatever they want.
These juries will believe whatever they're told.
Well, thank you, Julie Kelly.
You are the absolute best.
Thank you for all of your reporting again.
Everybody, check out American Greatness and specifically Julie Kelly's column that's going to drop tonight.
So thank you for that, Julie.
We'll have you back soon.
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