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April 26, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Is Texas Poised to Challenge the Dollar? with Paul Blair and Jeremy Carl
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Stop Central Bank Digital Currency 00:01:36
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Texas Action Against Control 00:11:35
Very important topic of something happening in Texas.
Friend of mine joins us to explain Paul Blair, who's head of the Liberty Pastors Network and a great man.
Paul, welcome to the program.
Charlie, thank you for the time today.
I really appreciate it.
Paul, tell us about what's happening in Texas and how people can help.
Well, Charlie, you're one of the few.
In fact, you've been out there beating this drum for a while.
You're well aware of a number of the threats that we currently face here in the United States from the Davos crowd.
And of course, one of those is the central bank digital currency.
There just so happens to be a couple of bills that are down currently in committee in Texas legislature that will, one, serve as a great inflation hedge to every American, in fact, everybody in the world.
It'll be a way for the state of Texas to be able to generate a little bit of additional revenue.
But maybe one of the most important things it will do is provide an alternative from what seems to be the intentional effort to destroy the dollar and guide us into a programmable digital currency.
So Texas, according to Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution, states have the authority to coin gold and silver since tender, or actually the dollar was supposed to be backed by gold and silver and was until the early 70s.
But states can't just print dollars or create dollars, but they can coin actual gold and silver.
So in 2015, the state of Texas brought all of its gold back from New York and built their own gold depository, kind of like their own Fort Knox.
And what these bills will do will create the ability for the Texas Comptroller to basically add an ATM machine to the Texas gold depository.
And every individual in the world can deposit part of their savings, part of their paycheck, whatever, and have it held in gold at the depository rather than in dollars at the bank.
And this is legal tender according to the Constitution.
State of Texas absolutely has every right.
Every state has the right to do this.
So individuals, if the dollar continues to be devalued, and as we all note, it is, then this is an alternative form of currency that can be used in the United States and worldwide.
Beautiful thing about it, it's already in the Constitution.
Texas is light years ahead of everybody else with this legislation already in place.
And we have been beating the grassroots for the last two weeks.
And we've literally seen over 2 million people reach out to the Texas legislature and encourage them to go ahead and pass these bills that would be good for all of America, including our own state treasurer here in Oklahoma, Todd Russ, in a letter of support for what they're doing and saying that the state of Oklahoma would be very interested in learning about this project and perhaps replicating it here.
So, this would be a competing currency to the U.S. dollar.
Is that a fair way to put it?
Yeah, I think that's a fair way of putting it, but recognize American currency, the U.S. dollar was backed by gold.
It was always backed by gold or silver until in the early 70s, we decided to break that promise.
So, you know, paper is not money.
Gold and silver throughout history and throughout biblical history and throughout American history is tender.
So, this the states reserve the right that they can actually coin gold and silver.
And with modern debit card technology, we don't need to coin it.
We don't need to carry it around in a little pouch hanging in our glove compartment.
You know, we can use debit card technology enabled to transact business with actual gold that we have on deposit in the state of Texas.
So, would this then include a creation of a central bank, or are we going to do it the right way, the way our founders actually envisioned?
Yep.
And the comptroller working individual agreements with different, like, oh, MasterCard, whoever does create the debit cards, credit cards can enter into contract with the state of Texas under Texas oversight, the comtroller in particular.
And this would be, again, what America was supposed to have had.
And we're supposed to have all this gold in Fort Knox, and the dollar is supposed to be backed by gold or silver.
In fact, I'm old enough there.
There used to be silver certificates and gold certificates.
And rather than it says now Federal Reserve note, well, what does that mean?
So this is actual constitutional going all the way back to biblical history, world history.
Gold and silver has always been tender.
This is just reestablishing it, according to the Constitution through the state of Texas.
And anybody that does business with Texas has to accept it.
And quite frankly, this is tender.
And Texas is the eighth largest economy on the planet.
So they carry a pretty big stake.
So it wouldn't be the full faith and credit of Texas.
It would actually be a metallic-based currency.
And having a state behind it would be very powerful, especially a state like Texas.
And it would originally be an opt-in.
But I mean, Paul, I would trade my dollars for a Texas metallic-based currency.
And once this hits a critical mass, I mean, this then could be a legitimate replacement, right?
Well, see, and this is good in so many ways.
Quite frankly, the only people that would object to this and do object to it are the maybe the Federal Reserve and the globalists because they want to concentrate.
Yeah, that's right.
And the big banks.
Yeah, right.
The normal banks, the regional banks, will love honest banking business.
But what this will do is for the average individual, you know, if you've got means, you know, perhaps you can have a percentage of your portfolio in some investment account and do something that kind of counters or battles inflation.
But actually, a CNBC article I read just this last week said 64% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
So they are absolutely exposed to inflation.
And quite frankly, anybody that tries to minimize just what a threat inflation is to us right now is lying or just ignorant.
So this will provide inflation protection for every individual.
You can have your weekly, you could have your whole check deposited weekly down there.
It would buy actual gold.
You'd use your debit card technology just as you do now.
It's good for the state of Texas or for any state.
Again, let me say any state can participate in this.
Oklahoma could rent space to the Texas depository right now.
And then in the future, if they decide to build their own depository, they could.
But this would be good for each state because a state would be able to make like a 1% or 1% transaction fee off of every card sale, just as we pay now.
It should lower the tax burden for the citizens of a particular state.
And then, of course, it'll battle the CBDC.
It'll really be a shot to the solar plexus.
Yes.
So at least temporarily from the CBDC.
Where is this at legislatively?
What is the action item here?
Well, the very first thing is it's in House Committee right now, the House State Affairs Committee.
And they have gotten, again, if people would go to the Align Act, it's a website, not of our creation.
It's out there.
It's a conservative website.
And you focus on the topic, Texas transactional currency.
That's an easy step one where any American can send the state of Texas and the entire legislature a note supporting this action.
So that counts a lot.
Anybody of your listening audience that actually lives within the state of Texas, contact their state representative and encourage them.
This is called House Bill 4903.
Think of a really bad football game, 4903, and ask them to push the Texas Transactional Currency Act, House Bill 4903.
Right now it's in House Committee.
Some of our side is going to be down tomorrow.
It's actually going to be heard in committee tomorrow.
We've got many from our volunteer organizations that will be down there speaking in Austin.
And then at that point, we will have our next action step.
You know how legislation is.
We'll need it placed on the actual calendar of the House, and then we'll need to support that.
But we've got a lot of ground swell support.
Like I said, literally about 10 days ago, this site, alignact.com, had had 270,000 people send emails to the legislature.
Well, in the last 10 days, that's now gone up by 2 million people.
And then with voices like yours out there making people aware of this, it's just going to continue to explode.
So this is good for everybody, except the globalists and the Federal Reserve.
Yeah.
And so what is just one minute, and we have you for another segment, Paul.
What's the counterargument to this?
How could anyone oppose this?
Well, there really isn't one.
Other than there's been some response by the legislators in the state of Texas, like they're saying, well, who's behind this?
Somebody's got to be behind this.
Which big bank is behind this?
And they find it hard to believe that we aren't a bunch of lobbyists.
We are just concerned, patriotic citizens.
I mean, this literally is a grassroots effort.
You know, a lot of people that you may know, we all have different ministry organizations.
We're overtly Christian.
We're all overtly patriotic that are involved in pushing this.
But literally, this is just the grassroots.
So the only ones that would be opposing it are really the ones that want to centralize currency, turn it into a programmable digital currency.
And as you have talked about up with your audience on many occasions, that's not really currency.
It's a means of control over the over the masses.
A Texas-based transactional gold and silver currency.
If you get 100,000 people start to use it or a million people, it could break the, I mean, unintentionally break the back of the dollar.
That might be an unintended consequence, but I could see a lot of foreigners all of a sudden coming in for a stable currency in the state of Texas.
This is the way we need to start thinking.
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Paul Blair is with us.
He's on something very important here.
It is alignact.com.
I just signed it.
2.3 million, Paul.
That's a lot of people.
Who's the main pusher behind this?
Is this just organic grassroots?
It's amazing.
This is organic.
Actually, a very dear friend of mine made the name of Kevin Freeman.
Kevin used to be an advisor with Templeton years ago.
He wound up in the early 2000s.
Kevin wrote a book dealt with the subject of total warfare.
And of course, Kevin has been sounding the alarm on the threat of China since about 2006, 2007.
And at one point in time, he was actually a subject matter expert that was advising the Pentagon when it came to total warfare and economic warfare.
So Kevin's got a show.
I don't know if I can mention the competing network, but it's on Beck's network.
It's called the Economic War Room.
Kevin Freeman, great, great guy.
Yep, Kevin Freeman, the economic war room on the blaze.
Kevin's been on this for about 15 years.
He's the one who got me on it 15 years ago.
Competing World Reserve Solution 00:06:25
And then we were just talking over the last couple of weeks and we realized that this was in the legislature in Texas.
Texas only meets every second year.
So if it doesn't pass this year, got to wait two years for Texas to take it up again.
And then, quite frankly, about two weeks ago, we recognized this was in committee and it was just going to die there.
So we thought, as many contacts as we all had in the state of Texas, let's at least do everything we can.
Let's leave it all in the field and do our very best.
And it's been amazed.
We've had over 2 million responses in the last 10 days.
Yeah, I'm reading it first.
It's so simple.
It's how it works.
As you said, Paul, Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution allows states to make gold and silver coins, tender.
In the past, using gold and silver to pay things was impractical, but with modern technology, the Texas bullion depository can make gold and silver transactional simply by adapting existing debit card technology.
And so, Paul, basically, what you're putting forward is a solution against all this anxiety: the dollar can collapse world reserve currency.
You say, no, no, no.
Yeah, yes.
Big concern.
Yes, if you have U.S. dollars, but if I'm in Arizona, I could play ball, right?
Now, so talk about that.
So, this provides an alternative tender.
And again, gold and silver.
See, we think of tender, we think currency, we think dollars.
And quite frankly, since World War II, the whole world has functioned off the dollar being the world reserve currency.
But in reality, the dollar in the first place was supposed to represent a dollar's worth of gold or a dollar's worth of silver.
So, reality, gold and silver is legal tender in the United States of America.
But since the early 70s, we got off the gold standard.
We have really seen it just explode the last couple of years.
Inflation.
You know, what inflation is just when you're turning on the printing press.
You're inflating the supply of dollars, thus devaluing the dollars that are already in circulation.
So, the policies that we're seeing, Charlie, you know, you mentioned a little while ago: is this a threat to the dollar?
Quite frankly, the dollar is at risk regardless.
This is just a possible lifeline that would allow all citizens in the United States to continue to function, even if the dollar does go to half.
That's right.
Yes, sir.
Finish your thought.
I'm sorry to interrupt.
Keep going.
Well, I know you're on top of this.
You are, I don't know if you remember, several years ago, you and I were at a particular event, and I really, before you had rocketed to Stardo, I mentioned you how proud I was.
Please forgive me if being an old guy seemed to condescending.
You reminded me of my oldest son because the way you talk and the way you thought.
So, your people understand this stuff, but this is not intentional.
I mean, not accidental.
If we just have morons in D.C., every now and then they'd get the answer right.
But, you know, when you've got the Federal Reserve trying to, you know, slow down the economy by raising interest rates at the same time, rather than cooperating with the Federal Reserve, you've got our federal government policy just creating vast amounts of dollars out of thin air and pumping it into the market.
We're going to lose the battle.
But not only is the inflation of the money supply going through the roof, but our economy is slowing down, which just magnifies it.
So I personally believe that this is intentional.
I think the globalists are intentionally devaluing the dollar so that there will be a need to move away from the dollar into eventually will be their programmable central bank digital currency.
But even right now, BRICS nations, you know, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South America, and others are actively pushing to replace the dollar as the world reserve currency.
And I'm afraid that the day that happens, the American dollar, we become Zimbabwe.
I mean, we're going to be walking around with $10 million bills in our wallet.
They won't buy a little bit of a business.
We have a backup currency plan because we have a lot of value in our country.
We do have overinflated amount of pieces of paper, but we have entrepreneurs, we have a trained workforce.
We have a lot of natural resources, a lot of energy, a lot of great ideas, a lot of companies.
So having a competing currency could be an insurance policy.
It could serve to fight against the monopoly right now.
That's right.
The currency monopoly.
Also, Paul, have you seen that?
So this could actually work to save the dollar.
Yeah.
And save the spirit of the dollar, right?
Which is American strength and solvency.
Well, it's going to force them to behave better because they're going to have a little bit of competition that the Constitution allows.
We need currency competition.
It's long overdue.
It's more stable than crypto, too.
Crypto is too flash in the pan.
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We'll talk to you soon.
Thank you.
Thank you, Charlie.
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Prosecuting Transgressionists Fully 00:15:11
I love Bozeman, Montana, but it's been taken over by absolute parasites.
We could talk about that.
It's similar to Aspen.
I'm really worried about Montana.
Jeremy Carl from the wonderful Claremont Institute.
Jeremy, I find it interesting.
The left they scream about January 6th insurrection, but we see them time and time again behaving in very similar fashion, taking over state houses, mostly the trans world, though.
And that I really want to build that out because you're a deep thinker and a really well-published writer.
But we'll get into that as we go.
I want to know what your ideas of where this ideology comes from and how we could properly diagnose it.
But tell us about what happened in Missoula, state capital.
What's going on?
Helena.
Helena, not Missoula.
Go ahead.
Yeah, well, we had these transurrectionists, as I call them, come in yesterday and attempt to disrupt the meeting of the state house, essentially doing a bunch of chants and trying to shut down the house business.
And this is a really big deal because, as a small state, we only have a legislature that meets three months every two years.
We've got a lot of business to get done in a short amount of time.
And, you know, when we have a disruption like this, it puts a bunch of things on the legislative agenda off that agenda and it creates some real problems.
Yeah.
So who was the driving force of it?
And was it legal?
Well, it definitely wasn't legal.
And the good news is that we arrested seven of them, some of them are the worst actors.
Although, you know, and it's funny because the people in Montana are such decent people.
You know, as one of these people was being let out in handcuffs, the arresting cop, and this is on video somewhere, apologized for misgendering them at some point.
Come on, what are you guys?
Canada?
Like, this is insane.
And like basically allowed them to give an impromptu interview to all these news media who were there.
And again, it's not that this cop is a bad guy.
He's just not used to dealing with these sorts of malevolent actors.
And, you know, this is all just, you know, the kind of broader impetus is that we are trying to pass things in Montana that's very sensible, frankly, not even adequate, but a good start legislation that will forbid essentially the mutilation of minors and cross-sex hormones, et cetera, for minors in Montana.
And we actually have a transgender identified Montana legislator who accused the Republican majority of having blood on their hands.
They were appropriately censured for that because that's not the sort of thing that we say in a legislative body and essentially told that they were not going to be recognized by the chair until they apologized, which they've refused to do.
And that's sort of what has led to the current situation that we're in.
So, Jeremy, you're a deep thinker.
If you could have the entire conservative movement know one thing about the trans movement, what would that be?
Who are we dealing with?
What motivates these people?
Well, I mean, I think you have to spread it out, Charlie.
You have to look at different constituencies.
I mean, I think particularly for the young people who are increasingly the sort of Gen Z folks, both minor and of age, I mean, they're just confused people who have a lot of problems in their lives.
And this is not a surprise.
I mean, childhood, youth, adolescence, young adulthood, these are challenging times.
And the appropriate response, of course, for people who get confused in this way is to sort of counsel them and to, you know, offer support and help, but not to kind of feed their delusions.
And then on top of that, we have a superstructure of leftists who just kind of want to burn down every traditional institution in the West and in America.
And they see transgenderism as kind of the next institution in the long march through the institutions to blow up the natural family to do all these sorts of things.
Yeah.
And so do you think they're going to stop anytime soon?
There is this belief on the conservative side that we have to bring down the temperature.
Yeah, they might be a little radical, but this thing's going to fizzle out.
Do you see any evidence of that?
Not at all.
And I think we need to turn it up to 11.
I mean, there's even been, you know, there's been some anecdotal data that say, oh, well, you know, maybe the trans movement has peaked.
When you see the number of people who are applying for hormone treatments and things like that, there's no indication that's the case.
We're not talking about a trivial number of people, by the way.
You're talking about for surveys, the Gallup survey of Gen Z, I believe 2% of kids are trans identified.
And look, I've got five kids.
I've got a high schooler.
I've got a middle schooler.
I can tell you that even here in Montana, we've got this.
This problem exists.
It's not just a social contagion, and people need to be willing to say that.
That something is infecting the hearts and the minds.
And it's coming via TikTok.
We'll put this graphic up.
7.2% of U.S. adults identify as LGBT.
I've said this before.
It's the gayest the country has ever been, and it's only getting gayer.
And one out of five of Gen Z is gay.
It's the gayest generation in American history.
And it's in our schools.
It is a social issue that is being misrepresented as an identification issue.
And so talk about the specific legislative items that you're trying to get on Governor Gianforte's desk.
Yeah, well, I think there's a few different bills that are working through, but basically it's to, you know, to kind of ban any sort of surgeries for minors, to ban hormone treatment, to this has been one controversial one,
to essentially not make it easy for teachers to or to refer to people by other than their birth sex so that you don't have some of these secret transitions going on and social transitions in school because social transition ultimately leads to medical transition.
So we've really stopped.
We're really focusing on minors.
Now, I think, as does Matt Walsh and others who've done a terrific job on this, that we absolutely, you know, it is a danger and a mistake to say, well, this is fine for adults, but it's just bad.
I totally agree with you.
I think that's right.
It's a social contagion that is rooted in a rejection of reality and a tyrannical impulse to get other people to conform to your own delusion.
Right.
No, no, no, absolutely, Charlie.
And we don't let healthy adults, you know, chop off their limbs because they don't like them.
So why do we do it for this?
You know, having said that, you know, minors is a good entry point.
I think pretty much everybody who's not totally taken leave of their senses realizes that this is not something we should be exposing kids to.
But I do think that it's important that as we talk about it, we do it in a way that makes it clear that this is a bad thing for everybody, not just for kids.
Yeah, and it's creating an insane and increasingly neurotic society.
Let's play cut 38.
This is happening in Montana.
Montana's more liberal than people realize.
I want to talk, you know, Jeremy, because it involves the Senate race.
People don't get it.
And I said Missoula, I meant Helena, but Missoula is more left-wing than Stalingrad.
That place is out of control.
You got University of Montana there.
Bozeman is not too far behind it with Montana State University.
Play Cut 38, please.
Speak!
Let her speak!
Let her speak!
Let us speak!
Let her speak!
Literally holding them hostage.
And again, this is such an exhausted way of commentating on radio and television, but I have to do it.
Could you imagine if those people were wearing MAGA hats and were a bunch of cowboys?
Could you imagine how the media would respond?
It's actually an appropriate thing to keep on saying.
It just kind of gets a little tired because no one really cares.
But Jeremy, tell us about Montana.
I'm worried about Montana.
You know, you're letting a lot of Californians into your state.
It's not as right-wing as people think.
Now, is it maybe I'm wrong because I heard one interesting point from somebody I trust.
They said, but Charlie, it's mostly Republicans moving into the state.
Is that true?
I do think that post-COVID, it's been a much more Republican movement.
And if you look at that, that's good to hear.
Keep going.
Yeah.
And I've actually done some very micro analysis of the Senate, like county by county districts from the census.
And what you see is people moving into conservative and rural counties.
You have the most conservative in the last year metro in Montana, which is Kalispell the Flathead up near Glacier National Park, growing twice as fast as Bozeman, which is more liberal kind of near where I live, but still a mixed district.
And I have to say, I know tons of conservatives who have moved here just in the last few years.
We are quite a ways from Boulder.
It's not an accident that the Montana GOP got its first supermajority in the legislatures in the last century, just this last cycle.
And so I do actually think that the story is a little bit better.
That's great.
But there are these pockets, though, undeniably, right, Jeremy, that I think are getting worse.
I think if the body politic is going more center-right, because I think the count, because the Democrats have gone insane.
So people that might used to be Tester Democrats or Bullock Democrats are now right-wingers.
There are pockets of legit radical insanity, though, right?
Missoula, Helena.
Is that correct?
Yeah, well, I'd say Missoula mostly, although we do have some, again, in downtown Bozeman as well.
But Missoula is the one consistently truly left-wing metro in Montana.
And it's not a coincidence that this guy, Zoe Zephyr, which is the name of this transgender identified lawmaker, is from Missoula.
And I've gotten all these kind of notes from friends from out of state saying, you know, how did Montana elect this crazy person?
And the thing they don't understand, our state house districts are 11,000 people.
So, you know, if you have just a few nuts kind of concentrated in one small area, that's enough to elect some crazy folks.
But actually, most of our metros, everywhere except for Missoula and Bozeman metro areas, did vote for Trump in 2020.
The state went for Trump by about 17.
And really, Missoula, out of all those, was the only one that was really decisively Democrat.
So we do have some bad actors, but I think it's, you know, I actually kind of like the momentum in Montana.
There's a couple other worries I have, though.
It seems that you guys have an oligarchy of like Jackson Hole, Teton County, Aspen 2.0.
I'm talking Yellowstone Club, Big Sky.
You know, I'm talking a little bit south of Missoula, Hamilton.
You know what I'm talking about.
One minute remaining, Jeremy.
Are you worried that Montana might now be the new retreat of the ruling class now that they've destroyed Aspen into an unrecognizable gay hellscape?
Well, I want us to make Montana as uncomfortable for these people as possible.
And that's ultimately one of the reasons I think, Charlie, you're absolutely right to be concerned about it.
That's why I think it's really important that we prosecute these transurrectionists to the fullest extent of the law, because you've got to send a message that this is not going to be your new boulder, that we are a conservative state.
We're a state that has Judeo-Christian values, and that we're not going to just let this place be.
You want Democrats who are looking on Zillow right now to say, this place is so backwards.
I'm going to stay in Fort Collins.
Good.
Stay in Fort Collins.
Okay.
We don't want you in Montana.
We don't want you in Idaho.
We don't want you in South Dakota.
Okay.
Because you don't want us.
Okay.
Because you guys are imperialists.
You guys are parasites.
You are intolerant.
I'm going to protect beautiful places.
And I'm glad to hear that Montana still has a fiber, a DNA.
And let's talk, stay another segment, Jeremy.
Let's talk about John Tester.
It's funny.
It's an interesting pattern we have.
Yesterday we had a great guest on about Aspen.
And now it's just kind of like, as we enter the summer months, we're reflecting on the upper altitude states that could determine the Republic.
Very interesting.
Well, I've still got snow in my yard, so it doesn't seem that summary.
Do you really?
Yeah, that.
Oh, yeah.
It was a bad winter up here.
What do they say?
It's not safe till like halfway through June.
Yeah, right?
That's about right.
It's about like June 15th.
You can maybe take out the lawn chairs.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Jeremy, I want to get rid of John Tester.
How do we do that?
Well, we've got to get a nominee first.
I can tell you, I was just texting with Senator Daines a little bit before we got on and hopped on here.
He's running the NRSC this cycle, and he's the other senator from Montana.
I can assure you, he is certainly laser focused on.
He's a good man.
I like him.
Yeah.
He's a very good guy.
We go to church together, actually.
But he's, you know, so we're very focused.
We've got to get a nominee.
That's really the question of who that's going to be at this point.
There's been some noise about a guy named Tim Sheehee, who runs a company called Bridger Aerospace out here in Bozeman, who I think is clearly being pushed by folks.
The other guy out there who I think hear a lot about prominently is Matt Rosendale, who I think is a terrific conservative stalwart congressman from the Eastern District now of Montana, now that we have two districts, although he represents the Constitutional Committee.
Trump doesn't seem too happy with him, though.
That's an issue.
Trump is not happy with Matt Rosendale.
That's an element of this race.
No, and I think the party establishment really doesn't love Rosendale either for very different reasons than Trump doesn't love him.
But a lot of Montana conservatives do.
And so the question is who beats him in a primary.
That's not to say that it can't happen, but I think that that's an issue that is going to be addressed.
But I'm actually pretty optimistic.
I think, I mean, I think, frankly, Tester is the biggest fraud in the Senate.
Yes.
I mean, he's not Joe Manchin.
I mean, I have a lot of problems with Joe Manchin, but Joe Manchin will actually sometimes cast some meaningful, moderate votes.
John Tester has a flat top.
He's got a farming background, but he votes identically to Chuck Schumer, basically on everything that matters.
We never get his vote on anything that matters.
So he's a radical lib in his voting record.
He's dramatically out of state, out of step with the state of Montana.
And by the way, they're nerdy political scientists who kind of look at voting patterns of senators versus what you would expect for their state.
And this is not just my opinion.
I mean, he really, he stands out as a huge outlier.
So I think he's gotten lucky for a few different cycles, combination of candidates and years.
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And I'm optimistic that whoever we put forward, we can beat him in 2024.
Well, I have to tell you, one of the things we are looking at is this trend of Democrats appropriating the aesthetic of MAGA.
And that is what Tester does.
I mean, he pretends he's a hunter.
There was this one ad he did.
He hadn't pulled a hunting license in 15 years, right?
He's like shooting something.
He's like, I'm John Tester, and I'm in touch with him.
And he thinks he can win over, you know, Montana voters because he has the buzz cut and he's largely overweight.
And like, yeah, vote for me.
And I wear, you know, I wear khakis and corduroy and I'm in touch with you.
It's like, no, you're a left-wing liberal and you're appropriating the aesthetic of a butte coal miner.
And that's people need to re-that's the Fetterman thing, right?
Like, okay, you're wearing a sweatshirt and gym shorts.
You don't share my values.
Is that shtick finally going to end, Jeremy?
Because he's played that quite well.
I hope it is.
You're right.
He does play it really well.
And I mean, let's not underestimate John Tester as a politician.
That's why he's survived three elections now.
I call him a senator fraudulent flat top, just in the kind of getting at some of the things that you were just touching on.
I do think I've talked to the senatorial committee guys and we sort of gone in depth about where his support is.
And the interesting thing is, I don't think that shtick works for actual rural Montanans.
They sort of see through it.
Where it does is where he's won races is he has pulled up bigger margins in Montana's cities than other Democrats.
So he's kind of fooling, he's fooling the folks in Bozeman, Missoula, and Helena.
He's not fooling the folks in rural Montana.
But I just think that 2020 was the first, you know, we just totally swept everything in the state.
I think there really is a sea change.
We saw the same thing in 2022.
And I think we genuinely are going to send him packing.
Danes beat a popular sitting governor for his reelect by 10 points.
And people liked the governor, even the exit polling.
But people were like, ultimately, he's going to go and vote with Chuck Schumer, and we don't want him.
And so, and so Danes won that race, not just with a little bit, but quite easily by 10 points.
Jeremy Carl, thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Thank you so much, Charlie.
Pleasure to be on.
Thanks so much for listening.
Everybody, email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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