The Coming Biden Depression with Steve Cortes and Citizen Kane
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Comedy of Economic Errors00:03:55
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Steve Cortez joins us.
Steve, welcome to the program.
I also want to mention your Substack, Patria.
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And we're here to talk about your recent article, The Syllabus of Economic Errors.
Tell us about it.
Yes.
And by the way, so I titled this The Syllabus of Economic Errors because I'm playing off of the syllabus of errors, which folks out there might know, especially if they're Catholic, was a papal encyclical that was issued by Pius IX back in 1864, where he sort of rails against modernity and all of the heresies and mistakes of the modern age.
He was incredibly prescient.
He really saw the future and saw a lot of the failures that were unfortunately enduring even to this day.
So unfortunately, in the economic realm, when I was thinking about the risks that are intensifying in the economy right now, I really believe that it is due to a comedy of errors, a circus of errors, or, you know, if you will, a syllabus of errors, policy mistakes, policy failures in the last several years that have led us to a place right now where we are in a terrible economic predicament, where I think the risks are rising dramatically.
And by the way, when I say I think, it's not just that I think so, Charlie, it's that the American people think so.
There was a really pessimistic, terrible survey that just came out, a survey that goes back 30 years asking, are your children going to live better?
Are they going to be better off than you?
Are they going to live a better economic life than you have lived?
And for decades and decades, Americans always had a very optimistic view on that very basic fundamental question.
Well, unfortunately, it has flipped to a totally negative view.
78% of Americans do not believe that their children are going to live a better life than they are now living.
Only 21% believe in the affirmative, and that is by far the worst ratio in all of American history.
So the reason I wrote this article is to lay out how did we get here?
Because unless we understand the mistakes and the failures that led to this point, we're not going to be able to change the forward trajectory and to make the kinds of reforms and revisions economically that are necessary for us to get back to a place where we can restore prosperity to American families.
So walk us through some of these charts here and kind of give us the narrative as they all connect.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, you know, first, in terms of the syllabus of errors, you know, looking back at the errors, the first error and the biggest one by far was the lockdowns in 2020, the lockdowns, which were unscientific, illogical, harsh, and in many cases, illegal, where we effectively made people like Fauci and Gavin Newsome and Lori Lightfoot, we turned them into effectively dictators and monarchs over our lives.
Now, there was a lot of damage done in many different spheres of life, right?
Social, mental, physical, all of the damage done to our lives, but also economic damage.
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And part of this unintended consequence of the lockdowns is that people learned to work remotely.
They simply learned how to work well from home, employers and employees, both out of necessity, had to figure that out.
Well, when you convince people that they can do that, they no longer believe necessarily that they have to go to an office.
In addition to that, and I detailed this in the article, you also had the violence of that summer of 2020, the BLM riots, which produced carnage all over America and turned so many city centers into places of incredible danger.
And many of them remain so to this day.
I was just back in Chicago, Charlie, our former hometown, and the loop, the downtown neighborhood on a workday is a ghost town.
And the only people you do see around are pretty sketchy characters who seem like they're up to no good.
Same kind of situation in downtown San Francisco.
So you combine this remote work because of lockdowns, very dangerous city centers.
And what you then get, if we can please pull up chart number two, what you get is office vacancy rates, which are absolutely soaring.
And there it is.
That's office vacancy rates going all the way back to 2006.
What you can see right now is that this current spike in downtown office vacancies is even worse than the 0809 recession.
So as bad as the real estate situation was in 08 and 09, it is now worse.
And what this means, Charlie, is that commercial real estate back in 0809, the risks were mainly embedded in the residential real estate market.
Regular homeowners who were over their skis, over leveraged on home loans.
That is not the case now.
As a matter of fact, home loans are pretty difficult to get.
Anyone who's gotten a mortgage knows that.
The bank practically wants to do a full physical exam of you in addition to the financial exam before they're willing to give you a loan.
But on the commercial side, that's where the risks lie.
And some folks in the audience might say, well, Cortez, I'm not involved in commercial real estate.
And I would stipulate, well, you are, even if you don't know it, because the banks and particularly regional banks, which have been, of course, in tons of trouble lately, are incredibly exposed to commercial real estate.
And as Biden's inflation makes commercial real estate more and more vulnerable because of rising interest rates, this becomes an issue for everybody in our society.
And if we can pull up chart number three to prove my point, bank credit, the availability of bank loans has crashed.
This is an article from over the weekend in Bloomberg.
Bank lending slumps by the most on record in the final weeks of March.
So the last two weeks of March, bank lending, Charlie, dropped $105 billion, billion with a B dollar the last two weeks of March.
That is the largest drop in history.
And we have data on bank lending that goes back 50 years.
So think of all the economic calamities America's been through in 50 years, the oil embargoes of the 70s, the 1987 crash, 9-11, dot-com bubble, the 0809 housing recession.
Nothing has compared to what we are seeing right now in terms of the pullback in bank lending.
There is a credit crunch right now that is accelerating in our country.
And that means for Main Street, for regular people, particularly for small business, access to capital, access to bank loans.
It is drying up and it's drying up fast.
So this has really significant real world consequences, sadly, for all Americans.
And also, sadly, I believe it's going to get worse before it gets better.
So that's interesting.
So you think that one of the places the collapse might occur is more on the commercial than the residential side.
I mean, I tend to agree.
I mean, I think there might be some price adjustment on the residential side, but the Sunbelt, I think it might go down 10, 15%, maybe.
However, people are locked into really low interest rates.
So given divorce, bankruptcy, they're going to do everything they can to try to stay in those homes.
And also, a fair amount of these single-family homes are owned by funds and firms that are then re-renting them back, like BlackRock.
But the commercial side, talk about how much leverage is involved in typically building commercial buildings.
These are not done.
These are usually done maybe with 30 to 35% equity.
These are usually 60 to 70% debt financed.
A lot of them have gone up in the last decade under an expectation that people are always going to need office space.
The COVID rush obviously challenged that.
I mean, we're talking about entire, now that we're not even talking about retail shopping.
That's going to go down.
This is separate.
This is office space.
These places are going to turn into ghost towns.
Yeah, and I think in some places they already have.
By the way, that vacancy rate that I showed, that's nationwide.
It's much worse than that in some of the worst affected cities that I mentioned, places like Chicago and San Francisco.
But I mean, even San Francisco alone, Charlie, is such a risk, not just to that area, but to the entire country, because you may not be aware of this, but your 401k, in all likelihood, is investing in these office towers in places like San Francisco.
So people don't believe that they need to go to the office.
Center cities have become increasingly dangerous and effectively no-go zones for regular law-abiding citizens.
On top of that, now we throw Biden's inflation.
Biden came into office.
He inherited an economy that was recovering with gusto and without inflation.
And what did he do?
Along with collaborationist Republicans, especially in the U.S. Senate, he engaged in an absolute orgy of borrowing and spending that caused inflation to be unleashed intensely upon the American economy, driving interest rates higher.
In my article, I also give a chart of what 10-year yield, which is the benchmark interest rate for the entire world, really, but certainly for our country, what it has done since he took office.
It has more than tripled since he took office.
That kind of spike in interest rates was not planned upon, was not foreseen, even by sophisticated institutional investors.
So to your point, they're incredibly levered right now on the commercial side.
Again, retail's not levered.
On the retail side, the residential side, we really did learn our lessons pretty well in 08 and 09.
As a matter of fact, in some cases, almost too well.
Like it might almost be too hard to get a mortgage.
I think that's right, because I think the residential market actually is far healthier than people realize.
I think you've hit it perfectly.
The fault line here is in commercial.
And because of the capital that is necessary to build, for example, a new Trans-America building or at least recapitalize it, you get the big funds that come in, right?
These are not, it's not mom and pop retail.
Well, they are via the funds, but we're talking about five, six, seven, $800 million buildings, right?
What happens when all of a sudden your occupancy rate is 11%?
That's a scary proposition.
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So, Steve, just kind of build this out a little bit more.
Sure.
I'm not saying there's going to be a bank collapse, but there will definitely be fissures in not just in the economy, but the health of kind of lending as we know it.
And it could be an unintended consequence of remote work.
And so just build that out even more.
Sure.
So listen, I think the combination of remote work plus cities becoming increasingly dangerous and inhospitable to citizens, to commuters, that combination led to unforeseen consequences for the commercial real estate market, made the commercial real estate market challenged already.
Biden then comes in and throws inflation on top of this already challenging environment, making interest rates spike.
And remember to the point you made previously, these office towers largely are incredibly leveraged plays.
They are leveraged plays by institutional investors.
So there's not a lot of leverage, unlike 0809, there's not a lot of leverage in the residential, regular U.S. housing market.
As a matter of fact, the leverage situation there is very tame by historical comparison, meaning people have high credit quality.
But on the institutional side, there's tremendous leverage.
You now have inflation rocketing higher, sending interest rates higher with a work from home phenomenon.
And so these office towers are in incredibly dangerous and unprecedented territory.
And it has very dire effects for the entire economy, even if you don't think you're involved in commercial real estate.
The reality is banks may not collapse, Charlie, but what we already have.
Insurance companies could.
Insurance companies could.
Yeah.
And what we already have happening, it's not a matter of, we don't have to guess about it, is happening right now is an absolute credit crunch, meaning banks are simply not loaning money.
They are pulling back massively because they are intensely aware of the rising risks because they see what happened to Silicon Valley Bank, a signature bank.
They realize, particularly the regional banks, which are incredibly exposed to real estate, more so than the giant banks.
The regional banks realize we're in a tough situation right now.
It's time to batten down the hatches.
We're simply not going to loan money, or at least it's going to be very, very difficult to get us to loan money.
And again, not my opinion.
The last two weeks of March, which is the most recent data we have, total bank lending fell by $105 billion in two weeks.
That is the worst decline in the history of the United States.
And we have data on that that goes back 50 years.
So worse than the 2020 lockdowns, worse than 0809, the dot-com bubble, 9-11.
None of those events compared in terms of bank lending to what is happening right now.
And even if it doesn't get worse, I fear it's going to get worse, but even if it doesn't get worse, just what has already happened, Charlie, is going to have such terrible effects for the country because that credit, particularly from smaller and regional banks, that credit is the lifeblood.
That is really the juice, the lubricant for the economy, particularly when it comes to small business, right?
The kinds of small firms who can't go to JP Morgan and get a loan, but previously could go to their local banks.
That's not happening now.
And why?
Because of Biden's policy failures, other failures as well, but principally Biden's policy failures.
For years, the idea of investing in commercial real estate, not retail, but commercial for office occupancy was a blue chip investment.
And it was AAA.
I mean, insurance company, whatever insurance companies put money into, it's boring and it's an annuity.
So it's like self-storage and office buildings.
In fact, residential was considered to be too risky for years.
They might bundle AAA loans and that's about it and buy and purchase those.
But this is big because what you're talking about is an inversion where so many people once considered commercial real estate to be just completely bulletproof.
10 years ago, be like, what do you mean?
People are going to stop going to work.
Come on.
And yeah, actually, they will.
And so one minute remaining, Steve.
We don't know how this is going to end, but when something goes from a blue chip to a poison pill, bad things happen.
Exactly.
And by the way, to bring this to capital markets, away from real estate for a moment, we saw this same phenomenon last year in 2022.
Not only did stocks get killed, but bonds got killed.
Bonds are supposed to be your insurance.
They're supposed to be the safe part of your portfolio, kind of like you're talking about commercial real estate.
So when the insurance side, when the supposedly boring side gets crushed right alongside the volatile, you know, sexier side, then you know you're in a terrible new environment.
This is what Biden's inflation has done.
It has made things that were considered to be safe, you know, and by the way, for valid reasons historically, suddenly unsafe.
That's the new reality of this economy as the risks explode with Joe Biden.
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It's going to be interesting to see.
Steve, thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
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Joining us now is Citizen Kane, who's also seen a similar rise, kind of like gold.
It's the citizen free press traffic charts and the gold charts are going up at the same time.
Mr. Kane, welcome to the program.
What's up, Charlie?
I'm here, brother.
Great.
So tell us, I'm told that you guys are 55% of the traffic of the Drudge Report now.
Tell us more.
Yeah, how about that?
I wanted to make a gold comment too, but I'll get to that second.
Yeah, so Matt Drudge, as addicts of the Drudge Report will know, if you scroll all the way down on the Drudge Report below the three columns on the far right, he updates every single morning his actual server traffic, right?
Not an estimate from similar web, not, you know, it's his actual traffic.
He puts the numbers in.
So what the chart you're looking at right there is our server traffic for the last seven days.
I did that last night.
So we did, we're at about 83 million.
We, the last 31 days, which is what Drudge uses, he uses 31 days.
We're at about 55%, which is, look, I'm not patting myself on the back.
It's this is CFP Nation.
I mean, a website, you know, as I've said jokingly, and here's a shameless plug: have your readers go right now if you've never been and go to citizenfreepress.com.
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Yeah, you'll think a seventh grader designed it.
You know, it's, and I, I say that with pride.
Here's a little side note.
It's funny, Charlie.
For the first three years, I didn't even have Citizen Free Press a banner at the top.
So when people would arrive, brand new people, they had no idea where they were.
It was literally just a stack of headlines not even telling you where you were.
So, so yeah, so we're at we're 360 million.
Judges like it's 650 million.
So the people, you know, the power of the people had have driven CFP's success.
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They do an extraordinary job, and I'm really proud.
You should be proud, and you should pat yourself on the back multiple times because it's extraordinary what you've done.
Kane, you know, you come on our program often, and I really enjoy it, but you and I are always talking about the what-ifs.
What if they indict Donald Trump?
Well, it's now done, and New York seemed to be the first one, and it's absolutely ridiculous.
It's an insult to the Constitution.
Georgia might be next.
DOJ, how has this changed the calculus?
It seems so far have only made him stronger.
Your thoughts.
Absolutely correct.
So far, first indictment, he's stronger, much stronger.
In fact, yes, Georgia's coming next.
I posted a link last week, or maybe it was this weekend.
Fanny Willis, I think it was the New York Times, and they got some access with her.
It sounds like she's planning a wide range of conspiracy indictment, talking, you know, there might be 10 people indicted.
It doesn't mean that it, whatever.
You and I have talked about the case.
The case has no chance.
Yeah, it's weak.
It has no chance in Florida, excuse me, in Georgia.
But that's going to be, you know, that's going to be a second round of big news.
Obviously, the media was super disappointed with how quickly last Tuesday wrapped up.
I mean, Trump was in.
He looked strong.
He was back on the, you know, the graphics of having him.
He was back on that flight out of LaGuardia, back to Mar-a-Lago within 20 minutes of leaving the courtroom.
And so the media, you know, that just died.
That story died for the media.
And now they're going to get another one.
So, yeah.
So Georgia's next.
And then Jack Smith, the special counsel, that's the one that's really going to be, you know, well, I'll pause for a minute.
What are your thoughts on Georgia?
I agree.
I've always thought Georgia is the more serious case in the in how do I put this?
Not because of what Trump did.
He said to go find the votes, which is fine.
You could say that, obviously, not go manufacture or go make them up or just try to, you know, create them.
But, you know, Fulton County is not a favorable venue, and they're going to try to overwhelm the system.
It doesn't matter.
They're going to throw everything against the wall and see what sticks.
This is a complete outrage.
Alan Dershowitz says that the federal government document case is the strongest, which is a joke because, of course, George W. Bush and Obama broke the same one.
Jimmy Carter probably broke it as well, but it's not, you can't, it's politically unviable because Biden has the same issue.
But Kane, I have a, I've heard this from multiple people.
I want to get your thoughts.
Do you think the Democrats want Trump to be the nominee?
That's unrelated to this, but it is connected.
That's a simple question.
I want your thought.
Do you think the Democrats want Trump to be the nominee?
That's a great question.
It's a bit of schizophrenia, right?
They want him if they think they can beat him.
And, you know, they rely on their mainstream polls.
We don't have to believe them.
But a lot of those, a lot of those lefty polls were showing, I'm talking about a month ago, two months ago, they were showing Biden leading or at least Biden tight.
There were some mainstream polls that were showing Trump leading.
So I think at that point, yeah, they wanted him.
They wanted Trump as the nominee, as the nominee in a way.
Now, the last one we just put up, Rasmussen's numbers, they flipped big.
They had Trump up six, 47-41 over Biden.
It's a really interesting question.
The way you, because the point of your question is, you know, despite these indictments, do they secretly want him?
Because they believe that young people, especially because of the abortion issue and what happened last fall and how young people turned out, they believe that young people and Trump derangement among independents will give them enough votes in those five or six swing states.
I'm sure a lot of them believe that, right?
And so, yeah, there's probably a large cohort, a large segment of Democratic strategists who probably want him over Trump.
It's weird, right?
Our base, I've been posting the polls every day.
You've been talking about them.
The base has strongly moved towards Trump and away from DeSantis in the past six weeks, mostly because of this indictment talk.
But yet, Democrats believe that Democrats are more afraid of DeSantis.
I'm convinced of that.
They're afraid of the age disparity.
That's so interesting.
So build that out.
So the Democrats are more afraid of DeSantis.
Therefore, do you think this factors into their indictments?
Do you think they're filing these indictments because they want to force the hand of a Trump being the nominee?
And their calculus, which might be flawed, but I'm just trying to figure out what they want.
I know what you mean.
Yes, if there were, look, if there were an overriding controlling force that was somehow in charge of what Jack Smith and Fannie Willis and Alvin Bragg were doing, then you could say, yeah, but there isn't, right?
We both know that these are, all of them are ego-driven.
Alvin Bragg, this was a pure ego indictment for him to become famous.
He now becomes an incredibly well-known person.
Same thing for Fannie Willis.
It's going to be ego-driven on her part.
So it's, you know, and she will become famous on MSNBC.
But let's get back to it.
You know, why did they, why did, why do they fear DeSantis more?
And I can't look, I'm not declaring that they absolutely do.
And that doesn't mean that I think that DeSantis is the better candidate.
I've sort of said, I love DeSantis, right?
I've said all along that I think he's our 28 guy.
And, you know, Trump still drives a part of the base that I don't think DeSantis would drive to get out of.
I think that's right.
And it's people that just, they do not vote for Hersher Walker, for Mehmet Oz, for Blake Masters, even Kerry Lake.
These people are a single candidate voter, and there's a lot of them.
There's hundreds of thousands in the states that matter.
Yeah, yes, I agree with that.
And it's something special about Trump, but we've never, in my lifetime, there's never been a candidate that sort of drove that.
Actually, Reagan de Libbett, one of my grandmothers, only voted Democrat her entire life, and she voted for Reagan.
So Reagan was able to sort of flip the Democrats and flip independents in the same way Trump has.
But let's get back quickly to why do Democrats want DeSantis?
Well, they're worried about that age disparity, right?
Beautiful young DeSantis family, gorgeous wife who beat cancer, beautiful young children versus the doddering old Biden who takes 12-inch steps, right?
So that's why I think Democrats deep down probably are more afraid of DeSantis.
They think he would get more independent votes, but they're discounting what you just mentioned, which is this unique Trump factor, his ability to drive people to the polls that we've never seen before.
So I think Trump is our guy.
I'm hoping and praying that we swing by, we swing through in five or six states, right?
We know them.
Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
That is where the battles are going to be fought.
What are your thoughts?
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Do you think the Democrats want Trump to be the nominee?
Is there some sort of three-dimensional chess that is going on where they say if we indict him, he gets more popular in the Republican primary, therefore he becomes the nominee and we think we can beat him easier?
I'm not sure, to be honest.
I see it both ways.
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So I have a theory, Citizen Kane, Mr. Kane from Citizen Free Press.
I don't think the candidate actually matters nearly as much as people think it does.
I'm a Trump 2024 guy.
I think the machinery matters.
I think that they're willing to run Joe Biden, not because of his appeal, his charisma, or his ability to speak, of which he has none of those things, but because they're so confident.
In fact, newly discovered documents by our team, they're all public, but we decided to dig.
There's an organization called America's Votes.
Very interesting.
America Votes.
Kane, did you know that they raised $245 million for the midterms to go get low-propensity progressive Democrat voters out to the polls in battleground states in the midterms just to go get people to ballot chase a $245 million operation?
I think that they're willing to go spend a billion dollars to ballot chase, do early voting, play games of signature verifications, you know, tap dance around the law.
I think it's more about the plumbing and the infrastructure and the machinery than the actual candidate that we're choosing.
What are your thoughts on that?
Yep, it's ballot harvesting.
So many things you brought up there that are good to talk about.
Okay.
So we had a little mini, little mini controversy.
Mike Lindell was like, no, no, no, we cannot embrace ballot harvesting.
And I spoke with Trump and he'll never talk about it again.
Boom.
Next day, Trump, first interview on Fox News in six months with Hannity, goes right into ballot harvesting and saying in all the states where it's legal, we've got to do it.
We've got to dominate because Democrats have sort of what you described in that 245 million.
They've got this on the ground push.
We've got to win that battle and then we can make it illegal on a federal level if we control Congress.
But you mentioned America votes.
You know what, Charlie?
My mind is warped from all these leftist organizations that have 200 million, 300 million, 400 million.
I know, but I don't even know the acronyms anymore.
As you were mentioning, I was racking my brain thinking, wait, is that the article that I read from Tracy Beans?
They're Zuckerbucks and there are so many of these grassroots organizations.
Well, they're not really grassroots.
It's AstroTurf.
But yes, keep going.
Right, right.
Right.
But I mean, they're paying, you know, one of them, and I don't know if this is America's votes, but they're paying, they're exploiting a loophole to pay people, not for their votes, but to go and get other people registered on an app.
You know, it's and look, they're doing that much, much better than we are.
I assume.
I don't know.
I would hope that you know the Trump team and the RNC have some have some action going.
You would know better.
The RNC is not.
I mean, what we're what we are going to attempt to do at turning point is try to build a ballot chasing operation in the states that matter, legal ballot chasing.
I think we have to embrace early voting.
I think the world of Mike Lundell, I think of this completely, I look at this completely differently.
Getting everyone to vote on election day is unsustainable.
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And I'll tell you, I had a change in philosophy on this, Kane.
I'm a Kerry Lake guy.
I live here in Arizona.
I don't want to live under Katie Hobbs.
Are you kidding me?
When I showed up to go vote in Scottsdale on Election Day, it was a two-hour waiting line.
None of the machines were working.
People were disenfranchised.
And right then and there, I said, this is a mistake.
We should have had our low-propensity voters go vote the weekend before.
And it's just rational.
Expand the window of opportunity.
And people say, well, Charlie, that's not the most secure way to vote.
I agree.
Do you know what is the most unsecure way to vote?
Not voting at all.
And we are disenfranchising our own side.
It's a sad real politic reality.
I don't want to celebrate it, but I want to win.
Kane, minute and a half.
Yeah, I have the same epiphany on Arizona.
I was posting those videos live.
I realized massive turnout in Maricopa, right?
We overwhelmed the system.
Plus, they screwed us with that 19/20-inch ballot that wasn't being accepted.
So they knew sort of how to throw a little wrench in it.
Yes, we absolutely have to, we have to vote early and often.
We need to turn this into a baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, little league America.
Let's start having these ballot harvesting.
Anyway, so once you say a minute and a half, man, I feel the crunch.
So I'm going to get going.
I'm going to get 30 seconds.
Keep going.
All right.
Well, so my final point.
Yeah, we have to embrace this stuff.
We have to realize that Trump is going to be our nominee.
We have to stop the infighting.
We have to stop the infighting.
We have to get behind him.
And we have to have the, we need 91 million.
81, you know, let's go from 65 million to 80 to 75.
And these people are there.
There are 91 million decent people.
This is not Sodom where you say, find me one.
No, no.
There are a lot of decent people in this country and we can do it.
I want to win.
Kane wants to win.
We have to ballot chase, period.
They have a $245 million machine, one of several America votes, where they're playing the game.
Let's get in the arena.
We do 5%.
We do 10%.
We can move the dial.
I want to win.
I want to defeat these totalitarian Marxists and we can do it.
We have to have a change of philosophy.
We keep on doing the same thing.
We're going to lose.
God bless you, Kane.
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