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March 16, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Drones in Ukraine… And in Congress?
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America's Conflict With Russia 00:14:09
Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, we go through the latest in Ukraine and Russia.
We ask the question, do you feel safer?
I sure don't.
Not with all the involvement of America abroad.
And we talk about why the 17th Amendment needs to be repealed.
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There was a close call that happened thousands and thousands of miles away from here.
It's a close call between an unmanned American aircraft and a Russian fighter jet.
What transpired in the last couple of days, we're still getting clarity on.
We have B-roll of the drone being hit.
But the immediate reaction that I think all rational patriots have is: are we really thinking out the potential escalating steps that could happen here?
This is happening in an area where most Americans cannot identify on a map.
And as soon as I saw this story, this is the way that I've been trained to look at these news stories.
The first thing I said, I asked myself, do we have military drones over the southern border right now?
Maybe we do.
And if we do, then terrific.
Great.
That's excellent.
But do we have military reconnaissance programs going on to track the cartels trafficking fentanyl and illegals and guns into our country?
We are now over a year into this awful, brutal, cruel, inhumane war on both sides just continually killing each other in eastern Ukraine.
And we as Americans have been the primary financiers.
We have been the primary pushers of the escalating of this conflict, not trying to broker peace.
When was the last time you heard anybody in leadership in America say, we demand peace?
Get to the table.
Start negotiating.
What are the terms of peace?
We don't hear that at all because Ukraine represents the next chapter in a failed neoliberal project.
Russia is the perfect enemy for many people in Washington, D.C.
And we've been very clear.
I'm no fan of Vladimir Putin.
I'm no fan of Russia.
There's plenty of things about Russia that I find to be reprehensible and disgusting.
At the same time, I'm not a cheerleader for Zelensky or Ukraine either.
Sometimes two bad actors can go to war against each other.
And war is awful.
It is the worst thing human beings do.
But the current regime in Washington, D.C. has been enthusiastic about escalating the conflict.
War is dangerous.
It's unpredictable.
It doesn't go the way you expect.
And this is one of the reasons why the neoliberals and the neoconservatives are so wrong on this.
They think they're playing a game of risk or Call of Duty as a video game.
Like, oh, yeah, you invade here, you conquer this.
It's messy.
It's logistically very difficult.
It's the law of unattended consequences.
It can go longer than you can expect.
We should do everything we possibly can to avoid war.
But our current government seems to be wanting to tumble us towards that quicker and quicker.
And it's not just our government.
I am repulsed by how the Republican Party is in harmony with the Biden regime on this.
The Democrat Party is now the party of war.
The idea of the Democrats being against the Iraq war and foreign imperialism, the American Democrat Party is fully on board with what is going on in Ukraine.
The $200 billion spent, the money laundering that's probably occurring, the weapons that are just flooding that entire region.
The American Democrat Party used to have anti-war elements and they have been eliminated.
So now the voice of anti-war, not an anti-war, because that sounds really hippie.
How about this?
How about the voice of pro-America lives in a portion of the Republican Party?
It lives on programs like this on War Room on Tucker Carlson.
And you, the voters, are overwhelmingly disgusted by what you are seeing.
You see your own beloved country invaded.
And then you see your leaders send money abroad to go secure other people's borders while yours, 5,000 people a day, pour into our country.
And a piece of criticism I get is, oh, Charlie, those are separate things.
No, they're not.
You have to make decisions on priorities and hierarchies in life.
It's a very simple thing.
This matters more than that.
And America's border should matter more than foreign adventures abroad, period.
If you can't do that, then do not do the other thing.
Securing our border is considered to be racist and bigoted, but securing Ukraine's border is considered to be the Winston-Churchillian cause of the 21st century.
And Congress and Republicans have been just shredding the Constitution by doing this.
But I think there's finally, finally, some signs that people are pushing back on the uniparty totalitarian dogma that we must send unlimited money, unlimited arms, and not question at all.
And there are some very simple questions.
We've asked some of these questions.
Tucker has asked some of these questions, but I have some different kind of twists on them.
And this is a simple one.
And anyone is welcome to email this program with a dissenting point of view, a contrarian point of view.
Do you feel safer right now in America because we've now spent $200 billion in Ukraine in a proxy war against Russia?
Do you feel safer?
Do you feel as if our homeland is more secure?
Is our country financially stronger?
Have we looked after our own citizens?
I'm going to play a piece of tape from Mark Milley saying that this collision between the fighter jet and the drone is not an act of war.
Play Cut 73.
As far as an act of war goes, I'm not going to go there.
Incidents happen and clearly we do not seek armed conflict with Russia.
And I believe that at this point, we should investigate this incident and move on from there.
But we will continue to exercise our rights in international airspace.
If we had an honest American journalist corps, do you know what their first question would be or their criticism?
Well, Millie, if you're not seeking armed conflict with Russia, then why are you involved in armed conflict with Russia?
We're already involved.
We're supplying them weapons.
We're giving them technology, support.
We are involved in an armed conflict with Russia.
And let me ask a question.
Why do we have drones anywhere near Ukraine?
Why?
It's very simple, like a very simple question.
Why do we have drones even near Ukraine?
Who approved that?
Did Congress go through the process of saying, okay, here's the War Powers Act.
Now you're allowed to fly drones near Ukraine?
Has that ever been approved?
Empire after empire overextends themselves while the homeland decays.
And Mark Milley will say, well, it's for surveillance and it's for intelligence.
I would love some surveillance and intelligence to try to prevent the flow of fentanyl into America.
And this is exactly why the conservative movement is now fueled by a simple moral claim.
Take care of our country first before foreign countries.
For believing that, they call you a Putin puppet.
They call you a traitor.
They call you loyal to the Kremlin.
When in reality, we're loyal to our own nation.
The philosophy behind America First is that if we do not make urgent action to solve the homeland, then we're going to be nothing more than a colony posing as a country.
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Yeah, I get a couple angry.
People are upset.
I'd say actually, generally, the consensus is people like it when I say it's Lady Graham.
I'm sorry, if you're going to try to stumble us into World War III, I'm going to take a little shot at you.
Some people said, Charlie, it's not right to call a U.S. senator by a bad name.
You obviously never listened to the great Rush Limbaugh.
You know what he called Chuck Schumer?
Chuck Yu Schumer.
We have these little one-liners to make the legacy of Rush continue.
Oh, what a great man.
So let's play.
I want to just play an element of this, and then I want to get into it because Ron DeSantis answering Tucker Carlson's questionnaire has been so interesting.
Again, we're Trump 2024.
We've said that, but I'm also very, very pro-DeSantis.
I love DeSantis.
He's a friend of mine.
He's a patriot.
He's a courageous fighter.
He's clear.
So DeSantis responded to Tucker Carlson's questionnaire about all the stuff on Ukraine.
And the Uniparty in D.C. is very bothered by it because DeSantis is supposed to be, for some people, the place where establishment moderates can feel comfortable.
And DeSantis is like, yeah, this is a border dispute.
We shouldn't do F-16s.
We shouldn't have offensive weapons.
It's not a good idea.
But I do want to just remind you: one of the reasons we're in the mess that we are in is because Lady Graham and John McCain and A.B. Klomichar and many of these neoliberal Republican and Democrats were poking the Russian bear for years.
Now, let me be very clear about my position.
This does not justify invading a smaller sovereign country.
Putin did a bad, immoral, evil thing to invade a smaller sovereign country.
However, you must also understand how we set the table for him to do that.
I want you to imagine if Russia or China went to Mexico with some of their equivalents of senators and gave speeches to the cartel and would say, this is the year of offense against America.
We're going to take out the American president.
How do you think we would respond to that?
The answer is the American left would probably invite them to go speak on college campuses, but that's a separate issue, meaning that it would poke the American bear.
So, Lady Graham goes to Russia and directly provokes Russia.
I mean, he goes to Ukraine and directly provokes Russia.
A sane country would respond somehow.
Right on their border, you have the strongest country in the world saying, We're going to go play offense against Russia.
And I will repeat it again: how is Vladimir Putin a serious or significant or material threat to the United States homeland in any way, shape, or form, especially while we are being invaded daily?
And our children are dying from fentanyl straight from the CCP via the cartel.
Why?
How many people?
This is an interesting question.
How many teenagers has Putin killed in America in the last five years or the Russian Federation?
I can say without any exaggeration: 50 to 75,000 teenagers have died in America the last five years because of the cartel in the Chinese Communist Party.
Washington, D.C. is really focused on the abstractions abroad.
All right, let's play Graham here in Ukraine.
69.
I'm sorry, 73, I think, is the one.
Lindsey Graham saying we got to play offense.
Did Washington, D.C. set the table for this proxy war?
And if yes, why?
Play cut 73.
Admire the fact that you will fight for your homeland.
Your fight is our fight.
2017 will be the year of offense.
All of us will go back to Washington and we will push the case against Russia.
We will push the case against Russia.
And how you expect them to react to that?
By the way, that's from 2017.
And it's only worse now.
It's like in every theater of America, every theater of the world, we have American senators going to try to turn up the temperature.
So now here's John Fune from South Dakota responding to Ron DeSantis.
Look at the disconnect between you, the voters, and the people you send in Washington, D.C. Can we start to get some primaries of these people?
Seriously, can we start to primary these Republicans that just ignore their voters?
They do not answer questions.
They hate you.
They're smug.
They're arrogant.
They're self-righteous.
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Play cut 74.
What message does it send to Blammer Putin when one of the leading contenders, potential contenders from the Republican presidential nomination, says that this is not a vital interest for the United States to push war in Ukraine and that it's merely a territorial decision?
Well, I mean, I think that there are lots of different opinions on the U.S. involvement in Ukraine, but I think the majority opinion among Senate Republicans is that the United States has a vital national security interest there in stopping Russian aggression.
And that's certainly the view I have.
A vital national security interest.
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John Thune And Diversity 00:15:56
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There's John Thune from South Dakota saying that it is in the vital national security interest of America.
How?
How is a border dispute thousands of miles away in the immediate and vital national security interest of America?
Now, you can make a separate argument, which is, well, we have agreements and we have treaties and we have promises.
That's a separate argument.
And that's actually a better argument.
I think it's still flawed and weak, but that's better than trying to gaslight us into acting as if this is our border.
It's not.
It's not even close to our border.
And they say, well, Vladimir Putin is going to roll through and take over Europe.
He has been unsuccessful in taking over Ukraine.
Ukraine is not part of NATO.
And George Washington warned us about having lifelong alliances.
Now, one of the reasons why Washington, D.C. is so disconnected from its voters and why you feel as if you have no voice, especially senators.
I think the House is better, is because of the 17th Amendment.
The 17th Amendment is without a doubt one of the worst ideas that ever has become a constitutional amendment in history.
I think it actually is the worst amendment to the United States Constitution.
I don't think it's close.
The 17th Amendment, which was ratified thanks to the progressive movement and Woodrow Wilson and all that nonsense in 1913, allowed voters to cast direct votes for U.S. senators.
Now, this sounded like a very simple and good idea.
This sounded like it was rational.
Okay, the senators are now going to be directly responsive to voters because the way it used to work was that state legislatures used to appoint the senator through a process and they'd say, okay, here's who we like and we'll appoint them.
They also had the ability to recall them though.
So basically the senators, United States senators, the way the founding fathers designed the system, the senators had to go through a filter process.
They had to go through a vetting process of the hyper local way of government.
Senators could not just autopilot to reelection if they betrayed their party and its priorities.
So let's take the John Thune example.
I have no big complaints with John Thune except the fact he's totally wrong with Ukraine and he doesn't fight on the issues we care about and he votes for omnibus.
He seems like a sweet person.
I'm not trying to make it about him.
There's other senators that are not so sweet.
But let's take John Thune, for example, okay?
John Thune is going to soar to reelection.
Why?
Because John Thune is in Senate leadership.
John Thune is going to go raise $20 to $30 million.
You couldn't spend $20 to $30 million on television in South Dakota.
You could buy the local TV station in Rapid City for $20 million, right?
I mean, that is a full, complete blanket media operation where you could basically control the entire state with $20 or $30 million.
Okay, so he's probably going to win reelection.
If he gets primaried, that person will probably have no money.
And John Thune will just keep on running ads and running ads and running ads and running ads saying that he's pro-life and he's all this.
Nobody can compete with John Thune because getting 200,000 votes gets you to be a U.S. senator.
However, if John Thune had to go up for a hearing to get recertified as a senator in front of the South Dakota legislature, now we're talking.
The South Dakota legislature is super conservative.
They're doing a really good job right now.
So the South Dakota South Dakota legislature would basically say, Mr. Thune, we don't think you're representing the voters of South Dakota when it comes to Ukraine.
We don't think that you're fighting hard enough.
You're no longer a senator.
Now, the counter argument is that when you used to have this process, that the state parties kind of controlled it like a mob, but isn't that what's happening now?
D.C. has become its own mob.
It's become its own cartel.
The state legislatures are actually one of the few bright spots of glimmer of hope in America right now.
In Tennessee, they're passing the anti-medicamutilation of children bills.
In Florida, they're passing amazing anti-CRT stuff.
In Arizona, they passed great school choice legislation that was signed into law by Governor Ducey.
State legislatures are the most right-wing parts of government in America right now.
And it's so, it's almost impossible to vote out these incumbent Republican senators, especially.
But imagine if they had to be held accountable by the legislature.
That's what the founders wanted.
And this is a wonky constitutional provision or amendment that doesn't get enough attention.
America became less free and more Washington, D.C. centric as soon as we removed the state legislatures from being able to appoint and hold the United States senators accountable.
They became national celebrity figures instead of proxies and extensions of the state capitals.
Remember, the states created the federal government.
The federal government did not create the states.
So now all of a sudden you run for the U.S. Senate.
You don't have to talk to your voters in Rapid City.
You don't have to go talk to your voters in Peer.
You don't have to go talk to the wonderful people all across South Dakota.
You just go raise money from New York and California and from lobbyists, run some very neatly tailored television advertisements, and you get reelected and rinse and repeat, and the regime goes untouched.
The way the founding fathers wanted it to be, they wanted the states to have a direct voice, a direct check and balance, as it says in the Federalist Papers.
And we've lost that.
We now have these pseudo-national celebrity figures like Graham, like Romney, like some of these others that they are not held accountable in any way, shape, or form.
And the counterargument is: well, Charlie, why don't the voters do it?
Again, the reality is in America today, because of the amount of money in politics, these senators, they do a couple show votes on issues people care about, pro-life, this, that, and nothing actually gets done.
And then they just blanket the state in advertisements, destroy the Democrat opponent, and they say, okay, I guess John Thune is better than some Democrat, which is true, by the way.
I mean, I would vote for John Thune over a Democrat, obviously.
That's not the argument I'm making.
And you could primary John Thune.
You could primary some of these people that are just completely defying their voters.
And I could go through the list of all of them.
But look at how difficult it has been to launch successful incumbent Republican senatorial primaries over the last decade.
It's very, very hard.
It is hard to find a Republican incumbent senator, be able to find a good candidate to go up against them and to take them out.
It's very hard.
There's a party apparatus problem.
There's a money problem, a name ID problem.
And it shouldn't have to be difficult because the American founding fathers never wanted the system to exist the way it is.
And so I remain convinced that one of the reasons you're living in a country where the voters, you, are saying, what the heck are we doing in Ukraine?
This makes no sense.
Our border is wide open.
And you feel as if your senators don't listen to you because they don't, it's because the system, the structure that the founding fathers set up was obliterated by the 17th Amendment.
And now they're discovering other weapons that Republicans are embracing, uniparty Republicans, like ranked choice voting, making it even harder.
The founding fathers and the framers wanted a bottom-up grassroots model and system.
So I mean, I fully support the repeal of the 17th Amendment.
It's unlikely.
It's probably not going to happen.
But I would prefer the legislatures, the state legislatures, to have a direct voice, to be able to recall John Thune and say, you're not doing your job.
I know I'm probably picking on him too much, but it just so happens he was on the clip.
And again, I agree with him on a lot of stuff.
He's fine on this.
On Ukraine, he's not listening to his voters.
In fact, he's just parroting these talking points of the Washington, D.C. war machine while our country becomes poorer and our country becomes less likely to pass down a free society to the next generation.
This is a major reason why we have lost our freedoms and liberties over the last 20 or 30 years.
It is almost like a single point of failure.
You get this wrong, you get another thousand, two thousand, three thousand other things wrong.
And people say, well, Charlie, why can't we get all these other things done?
Why can't we get voter integrity and voter ID and close the border and all of that?
And it would be depressing if the voters didn't believe this.
What is infuriating is that because of shows like ours and Bannon and Tucker and Daily Wire and the new social media stuff and Turning Point Action and all the educational work that goes, what gives you hope but should be infuriating is this, is it's a two-part equation.
A plus B should equal C. Voters with good ideas should be plus representatives that listen to their voters equal good policy, right?
A plus B equals C. That's very simple political math.
We have voters that are angry, that are seeing the world the right way, that are tired of these silly foreign wars, that want to see China held accountable, that want to see us energy independent.
But the B is the actual representatives that couldn't care less about what their voters are actually saying.
It's because the structure our founding fathers gave us was put in jeopardy.
29 states have full GOP control of the legislature.
If we did not have the 17th Amendment, we would have 58 Republican senators and Chuck Yu Schumer would be the minority minority leader.
And we'd have a Senate majority leader that would be closer to Josh Hawley and not like Mitch McConnell.
The further we get away from the brilliance and the internal wisdom of the founding fathers, the less free our country becomes.
I had a question yesterday from a wonderful supporter of Turning Point USA, and she said something about Charlie.
You know, we got to stand by our military.
And I agree, we do have to stand by our veterans.
We got to stand by the active military members.
But I do not currently stand by the leadership of this military.
I have lost faith in the United States military's ability to not just fight wars, but to be rational and sane.
And that's a very tragic thing.
I do not delight in this.
I don't find joy in this.
I want to live in a country where we have the greatest military ever.
But the ideas that started in college campuses, as I have warned for a decade, I was mocked, I was ridiculed, I was scorned and ignored by the American ruling class.
When I used to be in dinners in Palm Beach or New York, and I was the kid that didn't go to college, and I told them five or six years ago, I said, guys, these ideas are going to metastasize into our military corporations.
And I remember one guy who was a military defense contractor, never gave turning point money.
He said, Charlie, the military is the greatest ever.
We're never going to have these woke ideas in the military.
I've tried to follow up with him and get his opinion, but he doesn't return my call now.
Cut 70 is Averill Haynes.
This is technically talking about the Intel community, okay?
This is technically talking about the intelligence community.
But I mean, it is a sister operation of the national security military community.
So it could be looped into one kind of broader culture.
This is an extraordinary tape.
This is Averill Haynes, who is the strange, you know, kind of sex fiend, erotica person, very strange.
She owns like erotica bookstores.
I don't even know what that is.
Director of national intelligence, never should be allowed in the position considering she owns strip clubs.
The whole thing's really bizarre.
Play cut 70 of Averill Haynes.
What are your organizations doing to improve diversity when it comes to recruiting and retaining your workforces?
I think there is no question that we have to do better on diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility.
And I think you'll see in our budget requests and our proposals and all of the work that we're doing that we are that we see this as an area that we need to focus more intense resources and efforts.
We need to dedicate more intense resources on diversity, equity, and inclusion.
That's the head of the director of national intelligence.
Not more resources about finding Chinese spies.
Not more resources about how the cartel is moving goods and trafficking children.
Not more resources into securing the homeland.
No, no, no, more resources into strengthening diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Don't you feel safer already?
When I wrote my book, The College Scam, I warned that the United States military and the intelligence community and corporations, the entire country is becoming one major college campus.
Diversity, equity, inclusion is one of the most damaging and dangerous programs that the left is pushing.
And you see it across the board.
The Air Force is recruiting right now a diversity, equity, and inclusion expert to earn $180,000 a year.
Washington, D.C. believes that racism is a bigger threat than the Chinese Communist Party.
Now, they can never define racism.
I believe that their pathological focus on racism is a conspiracy theory because they can never tell me what it is.
It's everywhere, but you can't see it, and it's in the structure, but you have to wear like super goggles and read Robin D'Angelo's book, and then you can maybe see it.
And once you see it, you can't get rid of it and you can't eradicate it because it's like original sin, but you got to apologize for it, all that it is.
But don't question it because if you do, if you're a race, if you're a racist, we'll cancel you.
But trust me, it's everywhere, even though you can't see it and I can't prove it.
But trust the science.
What?
But where is it?
What is it?
Like, what I ask you all the time: can you define racism for me?
And obviously, there are individual bigots to other people.
There's also institutional anti-white racism in America.
Just look at a college campus.
Harder for a white person to get into college and an Asian person to get into college than black kids.
That's wrong.
It shouldn't happen.
Same in hiring of practices, the federal government.
So I'll grant you that there's racism there, but diversity, equity, and inclusion is the same immoral premise of critical theory that was brought into South America and apartheid, reconfigured against white people.
Institutional Anti-White Racism 00:00:38
And now it's not just maybe in the military.
Our entire national security apparatus is dominated by the very same ideas that I've been warning people about for a decade at Turning Point USA on college campuses.
We fund it with our taxpayer dollars.
Republicans gave billions of dollars to these universities.
And these universities have now captured the entire country with these awful ideas.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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