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March 14, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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How the Snowflakes Took Over Media with Amber Athey and Kalen D'Almeida
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Antifa Shields and Coordination 00:07:29
Hey everybody, Tanner Charlie Kirk Show.
Amber Athy joins us about her latest book on how the media was taken over by woke millennials and Kaylin from Frontlines Turning Point USA Project who was assaulted in Sacramento.
We talk about the sophistication, the coordination of Antifa.
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I've seen several instances of Antifa, the paramilitary organization and the shock troops of the Democrat Party out in the streets recently.
And I saw them in Chicago.
We saw them, our frontlines team did an amazing job at Turning Point USA capturing them in Sacramento.
But I encourage all of you to watch some of this footage.
The Antifa, they move this, they move in the streets with almost kind of military precision.
They use the same sort of tactics, the same sort of violent intimidation.
And one of our frontlines journalists, very brave man, Kaelin Dalameda, was assaulted.
And we're going to show you that footage.
Kaylin, welcome to the program.
You're doing a great job.
I want to play cut 20 of some of the footage that was Kaelin right on the front lines.
He got assaulted by Antifa while the police stood there and did nothing.
Play cut 20.
Get this called up.
They're in an ambulance.
Can you hold pressure to your head, please?
Hold pressure.
Where is it?
Hold pressure to the wound.
Where's it?
I don't know where I'm going.
Can we replay the video, please?
Let's just replay 20.
All right.
Kaylin is with us.
Kaylin, walk us through what happened when you were in Sacramento.
Sure.
We got there to the Capitol, and I want to say that things like this, this happened.
But the main thing is that Chloe Cole was having a speech and trying to raise awareness for teach transitioners.
And that, I think, is the most important thing that went on that day.
However, we arrived to the Capitol in about two minutes after being there.
I couldn't even get through my initial introduction before someone came up with a miniature Louisville slugger and destroyed my camera's man, my cameraman's lens.
Luckily, Charlie Paxiao is a pro and he was able to fix it and we were able to keep going.
So I'm really thankful for that.
But they were incredibly aggressive just right off the start.
There may have been 75 plus of them.
And I personally haven't seen a group like this that has been this aggressive and violent in a while.
So that was kind of surprising because normally, you know, they march in the streets and they try to shout people down and they threaten people.
But today, or excuse me, that day they had quite a few guys striking, you know, moving behind the barriers that they have up.
They hold, you know, flags and they hold banners and they really create a wall of bodies with shields.
But then they had.
guys who were brave enough to come out and start striking and assaulting people.
The man whose head was split open right above his eye, he's bleeding profusely, but he said, yeah, it was just standing on the on the sidewalk.
So it was anyone who even was just getting near them was getting attacked.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, I see the police, they just watched this happen.
Did anyone get arrested for the assaults?
I believe one person was arrested.
They moved them down the Capitol.
The police sort of, you know, with crowd control, right control, they moved that group westward away from the Capitol.
And I believe one person was arrested.
I don't have further details on that, but I do know one person was arrested.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So can you just kind of, I mean, the video is very chilling, but, you know, Antifa, first of all, the media doesn't, they act as if it doesn't exist.
They say it's not real.
We obviously see it's real, but they're moving almost as if they've rehearsed this and or trained with this, right?
I mean, this is kind of a sloppy analogy, but it feels as if it's like the Vikings from the Last Kingdom, kind of like they move together in sequence with shields, and then they open up and somebody comes with a bat and slams you in the face.
This is not exactly a group of amateurs.
I mean, these are people that seem as if they've trained or they've gone through several hours, if not dozens of hours of practice to do this.
Am I viewing this correctly?
Absolutely.
They do have parameter training.
And I've looked at some of their documentation that they hand out when they're organizing.
And a lot of it does talk about there being different affinity groups with people who serve different roles when they're doing that.
It goes down the line all the way from shields, scouts, people who gather information, people who strike.
And when they strike, they come out from behind the row of shields and then they come back in.
And a lot of it actually could be drawn from law enforcement.
I was talking with Brian Harpole, and he was explaining to me that a lot of that is what they do when they're trying to manage riots and large crowds.
Yeah, I mean, I want to just play some B-roll here.
We're playing that.
And these are stormtroopers.
They're actually going to be out in the streets for my visit tomorrow at University of California, Davis.
They're talking a very big game, and the police so far are doing a really good job.
We're very thankful for them.
They're anticipating over 100 to 150 police officers that are going to be deployed because I want to go talk about the Constitution.
I don't know.
You mentioned something that's very interesting, Kaylin, what they were getting worked up over.
Detransition Crisis and Medical Care 00:02:54
So Chloe, who we've had on this program, is a detransitioner.
Why on earth would Antifa dress up in military gear with weapons and go to the streets in the middle of broad daylight to protest somebody who's detransitioning?
What's going on here?
The fact of the matter is they hate that anyone has A detransition experience after they've been indoctrinated.
It's almost like someone who becomes a Christian.
In the same way, detransitioning provides a huge window into the world of indoctrination, into the world of medical abuse against children and even adults.
And I think one of the big points that was made earlier at the Detransition Awareness Day was that there are so many people who are struggling mentally or physically, and they're diagnosed with dysphoria and this medical industry instead of providing some higher standard of care than just making sure people don't commit suicide.
A lot of the Antifa will say, you know, there's a trans genocide going on and there's trans suicides happening every day.
And if you don't give these kids, you know, hormone blockers or testosterone or some sort of mutilation surgery, that they're going to commit suicide.
And so it seems as though the medical industry is pushing this idea and the schools are teaching this sort of indoctrination where you can, you know, magically be something other than what you actually are.
And the most important messages spoken that day were very powerful.
It was a teary-eyed gathering.
It really was listening to Chloe Cole.
I've heard her speak before, but every time it is emotional because, you know, as a Christian and just as a human being, like my heart breaks for that sort of thing.
Yeah, and it makes you wonder why it is that Antifa has in broad daylight on a weekend, obviously being funded by somebody or something.
We don't know who.
The federal government has not done the proper investigations here.
This is not going to, if there was the next Republican administration, they need to do a RICO case into Antifa, isolate 10 or 20 of these guys that have been arrested, go through their bank accounts, follow their cell phone activity, do it all through warrants with a warrant to do it the right way, find out where they've been meeting, find their pings, find out the ringleader, isolate it, and then be able to do a real national organization.
Who Funds the Radical Left 00:05:57
These are not a lot of, there's not a lot of people nationally.
There's probably 2,000, 2,500 of them in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Sacramento, Los Angeles, obviously Atlanta, D.C., Chicago.
But they all use the same tactics.
They use the umbrellas to hide identities.
They all move in the same sort of harmony because I think that people underestimate the sophistication of how Antifa moves and really what is behind them.
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Kaelin Delameda continues with us.
So, Kaelin, can you just explain to our audience how coordinated Antifa is?
Do you see a central leader?
There has to be somebody that is calling the shots.
What have you learned?
Well, I've learned that there is different roles that these groups play.
And typically, there is a loose idea of where they want to go, but the idea is that they move fluidly and they sort of right, they have their it's hard to say, Charlie.
It's hard, it's hard to say who is the leader when they all look the same and they're obfuscating their identities with black block.
Um, surely there is certain roles designated to how they're going to move down the street.
Uh, I do think there is, I do think there is a leader when it comes to these individual groups that organize these direct actions.
Uh, it's just hard to say who those might those people might be in the moment, and they're they're mercilessly violent.
We saw what they did in Georgia where they went after the cop city, which was a training facility for police officers, and they firebombed it and they committed arson, a majority of which the people who did that were not arrested and were not held accountable.
And I mean, their intent is disruption, their intent is violence.
The ideology that drives them is kind of more anarchism at times than it is even leftism, but it certainly is a hatred of you and I, of Christians, of conservatives.
There is a nastiness, there is a venom, there is almost a fervor for revolution.
What bothers me the most, though, is that the cops seem more interested in crowd controlling them than actually arresting them.
Is that correct?
You know, that's something that I don't fully understand.
I don't understand why they're just standing by and watching people being beaten in the streets and not doing anything about it.
I'm not sure what their rules of engagement are in terms of going out and protecting citizens from these types of people.
Journalists and media should be protected by law.
And I will say this: as I was walking down the street, I did hear law enforcement on the radio.
They were saying, Hey, there's a guy with a silver helmet and an armband, and he's got a bat.
He's been attacking people.
And so I know that they were aware.
They were aware of who was doing what.
And that may have been the individual who was arrested later on.
I just can't confirm.
These are shock troops.
I mean, these are people that are deployed for a very specific reason for political violence.
And the rest of them, Jerry Nadler says it didn't even exist when he was confronted.
Oh, what do you mean by Antifa?
Oh, they don't exist.
They're not real.
Play Cup 202 guys as I'm doing this just as B-roll.
And they find their targets.
But it's interesting that over the last, this is them attacking Cop City, which 23 were thankfully arrested.
The remainder were not.
And we have to be lectured about January 6th.
Meanwhile, they're attacking our homeland every single day, every day.
They literally committed acts of widespread arson and vandalism.
This is all thanks to Antifa.
And so, Kaelin, what we have found is that many of these people are not arrested.
They're not held accountable.
The police are afraid of them.
That is the case in many cities.
And the police do not want to engage.
They do not want to get involved in this.
It is obviously orchestrated.
The power balance has shifted because the activists are running the streets and it seems as if the district attorneys have their back.
But one minute remaining, Kaylin, it is interesting because what they are doing is more and more focused on the trans issue.
Why do you think that is?
I think the trans issue is a serious, a seriously grotesque attack on America's youth.
Media Bias and Victimhood 00:15:22
And I think that is why they're so vehemently against anyone who opposes it, because it's something that directly destroys the future of the United States.
If they can strike fear into anyone who wants to speak out against the absolutely bizarre things that these kids are being taught and that they believe about reality and themselves and what medicine is and what it isn't and what treatment should look like and what it shouldn't look like, they're going to do that.
If they can put you in the hospital for standing up against this agenda that seeks to destroy our youth and corrupt their minds, then they'll do it 100 times over and laugh in your face.
That's right.
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It's one of our most successful new programs at Turning Point USA.
Kaylin, you're doing a great job.
Make sure you stay safe.
Our security team was there.
And I think that, you know, they really helped you.
And if they wouldn't have done what they did, they deserve a public thanks.
And so thank you, Kaylin.
We're out of time.
Keep being courageous.
And I pray that tomorrow at UC Davis does not get violent.
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The Snowflakes Revolt, how woke millennials hijacked American Media.
Very interesting premise.
I'm excited to dive into this.
And Amber Athey joins us now.
Amber, welcome to the program.
Thanks for having me, Charlie.
Amber, make the argument.
How did woke millennials hijack American media?
I think the premise of this book is really that conservatives got it so wrong about five years ago when we looked at the craziness that was happening on college campuses and we said these snowflakes are going to enter the real world and they'll just melt because they're not going to be able to hack it.
Their employers aren't going to give them safe spaces or trigger warnings and they're going to have to learn to adapt or die.
Well, what happened instead is that it turns out much of the American corporate space and particularly the mainstream media were both sympathetic to these college students and also totally unprepared for the onslaught that was going to come to their doorsteps.
And these so-called snowflakes entered the real world and have used the same campus tactics, mob tactics, public shaming, internal revolts, and overall cancellation attempts to completely wrest power from the institutions that they've now taken over.
And they've influenced the media in such a way that the reporting that we see is further left than ever before.
I have been told, though, by boomers that kids get more conservative once they leave college and college is liberal, but it's not as if they bring their ideas with them.
I've always found this to be preposterous.
I wrote a whole book on it, that what happens on college campuses doesn't stay on college campuses.
It'll influence corporate boardrooms and then the halls of Congress.
In media, have you seen that same phenomenon?
Have you seen these media companies come more like college newspapers and not the other way around?
Definitely.
I completely agree with your read on the situation.
The idea that all of these people are having a come to Jesus moment and this aha moment of conversion in terms of their political ideology is completely ridiculous.
If this were happening on such a wide scale, considering just how many progressives go through the university system, it would be an absolute spectacle.
I mean, we'd be reading about it every single day, but that's not what happens.
These people do carry these views with them and they use them to influence the mainstream media companies.
Absolutely.
I did a deep dive on several different outlets, including the Washington Post, the New York Times, Politico, The Hill.
And it's quite clear that they have been hiring reporters or activists disguised as reporters for the past five to 10 years.
And eventually they created such a large group of them that they've banded together and they've been able to completely influence the editorial line.
Just recently, one of the excerpts from my book, I obtained an exclusive copy of Politico's style guide.
And the style guide is just unbelievable political propaganda from left-wing activists.
You're not allowed to say terms like biological sex or biological man.
You're not allowed to say things like identifies as because you're denying a trans person's existence.
You're not allowed to say illegal alien, which is a legal term used by the Department of Homeland Security.
So that influences every single thing that you read in a news outlet.
Yeah, this list of examples you have here, and again, for untrained eyes, you don't always catch this.
And so here's a great example that you have in your book.
Politico organized a staff-wide seminar with a queer activist group.
Now, I got to stop here.
Amber, when I grew up, queer was a slur.
I guess now it is something that people like calling themselves.
That warned staffers how they were allowed to write about the LGBTQ plus community.
As you mentioned, the new style guide was issued to Politico reporters that remove all gender language from articles and dropped the descriptive terms like chain migration or late-term abortion.
This is not even in story selection or in kind of bigger picture bias.
We're talking about vocabulary policing that has now set into media.
Is that right?
Yes.
And this is very insidious, Charlie, because I think when we look at things like story selection or the headlines that are chosen, people can see that bias pretty clearly.
But when they're actually controlling language, they're controlling the way that you think.
The way that we understand concepts and issues is intrinsically linked to the vocabulary that we use, the words that we're allowed to use.
I mean, think of it this way.
If you're learning a new language, you think in English, for example, and then you translate the word to whatever language you're trying to learn, let's say Spanish.
It takes a long time before you get comfortable and fluent enough to immediately think of the concept in Spanish without doing that translation in your head.
That's how powerful language is in the way that we, in the way that we think.
And so by these people controlling the words that are used in newspapers and in news stories, they're directly controlling the way the readers understand those concepts.
And then also just removing the truth and watering it down ever so slightly.
I mean, another example here is just kind of in the you can't use chain migration.
You can't use late-term abortion.
You can't say identifying with.
And all this happens without the reader ever realizing it.
It is Orwellian, very slow-motion changes that are supposed to alter your mind.
The Hill launched a new editorial project in 19 called Changing America, supposedly centrist.
The first news outlet to use activist-created, quote, don't say gay nickname in a headline and published alarmist and alarmist propaganda about climate change.
Washington Post attempted to cancel a pro-fossil fuels philosopher and author over a two-decade-old blog post from college.
You say here the New York Times throughout the editorial staff behind the Tom Cotton op-ed after repeatedly defending left-wing employees who brought bad PR to the paper.
And so, I mean, we can go on and on and on about this, but where are the adult editors that tell them to kind of go pound sand?
That's the really sad part about all of this is if somebody just had the courage to stand up and say no against the mob, then none of this would be happening.
But I think a big part of the problem is that because newsrooms for so many years have become increasingly liberal, that there's not only a lot of sympathy for these woke activists, but there's also a great fear of them because I think they understand just how powerful these people can be.
I mean, if you're a left-wing boomer, being called a racist is the worst thing that can happen to you.
I mean, that is terrifying.
That is something that can absolutely destroy your career, your reputation, your social standing.
It actually used to mean something to be called a racist in the 80s.
That's why.
Exactly.
It used to mean something.
And now it's lobbied against anyone who doesn't tow the progressive orthodoxy.
And so I think these newsroom leaders are really just trying to prevent any accusations against their character.
And they think by appeasing the mob that they're going to get them on their side.
But instead, what they're doing is incentivizing them to continue their ridiculous cancellation attempts and public PR smears of the organizations that they work for.
Yeah, I mean, that's really important.
And it used to be that calling a racist was almost paralyzing.
I mean, I get people that are 60 plus all the time.
We just had a dinner recently.
I said, Charlie, if I didn't know you, I'd think you were this terrible racist based on everything I read in the newspaper.
And that must be really hard.
I said, why do you think being called a racist matters?
Like, well, it's the worst thing.
And they said, it would destroy my life.
It's like, destroy your life if someone lies about you?
It just goes to show how young activists use the weaponization of name-calling to go after old people.
You're a racist.
You're terrible.
Okay, whatever you want.
We'll reaccommodate all of society to you.
So let me ask, you know, so for example, you work at the Daily Caller.
You're now the Washington editor, the spectator.
I mean, is the journalist community in DC getting any better or is it just getting worse?
Are they more activist-driven?
Are they less?
I don't see major investigations going into any of these left-wing causes.
In the journalist pool in D.C., what are you seeing?
I would say that media has become more fractured.
You see a bigger divide between conservative media, as it's called, or independent media, and the mainstream media.
And the mainstream media is getting rid of the sort of old-fashioned liberals who still kind of understood journalistic ethics because anyone who stands in the way of this attempt to reshape the newsrooms in the views of the left-wing activists are no longer allowed to be there.
That's why you see people like Barry Weiss, Matt Taibbi, and some of these other classically liberal or left-leaning individuals systematically leaving the mainstream media because there's no room for any attempt at unbiased journalism or even just kind of left-leaning investigative journalism.
I mean, that used to be kind of acceptable, but now it's become so awash with just progressive idealism and a complete reshaping of what journalism even means.
I mean, in this politico meeting with the queer activists that you mentioned before, one of the things that was said by Kate Sozin, who is with a left-wing queer activist group, was that you're not allowed to report on both sides of the transgender issue because that would be considered a violation of journalistic ethics.
And in her view, journalistic ethics means standing on behalf of the downtrodden.
Whereas we like to think of it as, you know, going in search of the truth.
And what's so warped about this entire concept of fighting on behalf of the downtrodden is that these people aren't the downtrodden.
Journalists, for one, are some of the most powerful people in society.
They have mega platforms that they can use to shape public debate.
Cancel people at will, right?
These are some of the most powerful people on the planet.
Keep going.
And the minority groups that they claim to be giving a voice to because they're so voiceless are also people with immense power.
They benefit in all kinds of ways from affirmative action programs.
You're not allowed to criticize them because, again, you will be accused of being any type of bigot.
They have massive amounts of funding from left-wing billionaires for their pet projects.
I mean, the idea that these are people who lack any kind of institutional power is a complete backwards view of what American society actually is right now.
Believing you are a victim then gives you a moral license to victimize.
And far too often, we have people that have been told they're victims their entire life, and then they actually become the tyrants that they think they are opposing.
Happens more and more.
Amber, stay right there.
I want you to check out her book.
It's very important, The Snowflakes Revolt, How Woke Millennials Hijacked American Media.
This is so important.
And by the way, it goes against everything I was told.
I was told by adults and our saged elders, Charlie, come on.
I mean, the campuses are liberal, but they'll get more conservative as they get older.
That's not true.
They are becoming more radical.
They're infecting our institutions and they're trying to destroy the country.
Zero evidence to believe.
Zero evidence to believe that somehow they get more conservative as they get older, especially with this new ideology that takes very deep roots.
So, Amber, how do we go about fixing this?
They've taken over the institutions.
They've taken over the media.
How do we excommunicate them?
How do we reclaim them for goodness and for actual reporting?
I suppose the first question you have to ask is, is the media even worth saving?
Which I think is very much up for debate.
It would not be totally out of pocket, I think, for me to say that watching them destroy themselves would be quite satisfying.
But there is something that conservatives can do and Republicans can do to help fight back.
And I think the most obvious thing is to support each other when we become potential victims of these cancellation attempts.
I see too often conservatives who say, I don't want to get involved in that one because that one's a little sticky.
And then two weeks later, you find out that, of course, the accusations were bogus, but it was too late.
You didn't stand up for your friend.
And I think that's such a shame.
Now, the other thing is that conservatives need to stop playing the game of the mainstream media.
And what I mean by that is that you will constantly see Republicans on Capitol Hill giving scoops and stories and press releases and interviews to mainstream media.
Conservatives Fight Back Against Cancellation 00:04:08
It's like, why are members?
I know, why are members of the Trump administration calling the New York Times?
Maggie Haberman.
Yeah, come on in.
Come in in the Oval Office, Maggie.
I'm like, no, you should say, come on in, Matt Boyle from Breitbart.
Come on in, Amber.
You know what?
Drive them nuts where they'll have to say, according to Breitbart News, Donald Trump said he's, you know, just torpedoed Qassam Salamani.
Like, give them a good one.
I know.
They give us the PR scraps, you know, the stuff that's already public.
Or even worse, they will go to the New York Times.
The New York Times will, of course, turn it into a hit job.
And then they come running to conservative media and they say, please, can you help us fix this?
Yeah, exactly.
It's too late.
Why is that?
Is that because some of these older folks still have some sort of, I mean, they actually think this rag matters, this right here, the New York Times?
I think that's exactly what it is.
They sort of have this nostalgia for when these were the papers of record and they sort of want that perceived prestige or legacy.
But I tell this story in the book of when I was the White House correspondent for the Daily Caller and there was an instance where we were all members of the press across the spectrum were invited in for briefings on immigration.
And they were background briefings.
And in one of the briefings, it was all conservative media members who were invited into the upper press part of the White House.
And as we're waiting in line, these other reporters come walking up from CBS and CNN.
And they're trying to almost sneak their way into this background briefing.
And I think it just spoke to how entitled these members of the media are, where they really think that they're entitled to access, even though they continuously lie about people who disagree with them.
And I mean, to the Trump administration's credit, at that time, they had pushed these people out.
But then the next week, I think it was a week after CNN had published an incredibly egregious hit job on the president, they were inviting CNN White House correspondents once again up into upper press for background briefings.
And I just wanted to shake them and say, why are you constantly rewarding bad behavior?
I mean, you have the power to decide who really gets access.
And if you keep giving them access, they're going to keep doing exactly the same thing that they've been doing.
There was that kind of fight over Acosta's press credentials and all that.
But the point that was never covered, in my opinion, you don't have to call on him.
And so, I mean, I think you should be able to revoke press credentials of whoever you want because they do that to OAN and they did it to whatever.
But you don't have to call on him.
And you certainly get to choose which media, especially what conservative media, you could break exclusive stories to, cabinet pics and all that stuff.
And I see this with senators all the time.
Senators all the time are like, oh, Washington Post this and New York Times that.
And it's always, it's always adversarial media.
And I mean, it's almost as if where, you know, these Republicans like, well, if we show the Washington Post that we're fair, they'll reward us.
I mean, and the RNC, I mean, the RNC is buddy-buddy with the CNN and MSNBC.
And it's extraordinary.
Final thoughts, Amber?
Well, look, and the same thing happened with the New York Times, where people will say, well, we want our stuff published in the New York Times because we'll be able to change hearts and minds.
Well, the people who read the New York Times are canceling subscriptions when they see Republican names in their pages.
Those are not the people that you're going to convince to your point of view.
And just as someone who's, again, been in the White House, there's a huge difference between having a hard pass and being there every day and actually getting access to the administration.
So there's ways to do this that are completely legal and absolutely have to happen in order for us to delegitimize the mainstream media.
Check out Amber's latest book, It's Important, The Snowflakes Revolt: How Woke Millennials Hijacked American Media.
Amber, thanks so much.
Thank you, Charlie.
Thanks so much for listening.
Everybody, email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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