It’s a jam-packed episode, as Charlie covers his trip home to Chicago, where he was welcomed by a few protestors, some unethical journalists, and an massive crowd of young conservatives. Then, Charlie dives into the shocking collapse of Silicon Valley Bank. Will it be the first domino of a collapse that takes the entire American economy with it? Finally, Charlie addresses a possible Trump indictment, and how Trump seems to be the only person in America the left wants to see behind bars.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Campus Event Press Coverage00:10:48
Hey, everybody.
Today in the Charlie Kirk Show, I reflect on the campus event at the University of Illinois Chicago.
And then we talk about a looming Trump indictment.
And is there a bank run that's about to happen?
Will a major American bank just collapsed?
We talk about that and more.
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Here we go.
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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There is a bank collapse that is going to impact the entire economy.
That is the Silicon Valley Bank is basically closed.
And this is not insignificant news.
This has caught my attention, and I think it's bigger than people realize.
I think we might be seeing Lehman Brothers 2.0, Bear Stearns 2.0.
I hope I am wrong.
We're going to cover this, and it's happening in real time.
In fact, we just received an email that is showing how nervous people are about this pending bank run.
One of the largest banks in America, top 20 banks, $300 billion in assets.
Is that right?
And they're collapsed.
The stock has stopped trading.
Federal regulators are taking over the bank.
We have said for quite some time, $200 billion.
And look, I don't want to go overboard.
I don't want to overly panic, but I'll show you this email here.
Literally, one of the vendors that uses, that we use for our show has told us to stop sending the money to the Silicon Valley Bank because they don't think the money is any good.
So we'll talk about that, but I want to reflect first on the evening we had at the University of Illinois Chicago.
Last night, we had an amazing event at the University of Illinois Chicago, and it is one of the most powerful examples that I have ever lived through regarding the lies and the power of the media against reality.
The Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Tribune, the Tribune, which used to be a respectable paper, which is now a rag, covered our event.
The event was attended by well over 1,000 students.
1,000 students in downtown Chicago came to hear a lecture, came to come here a speech about America, about liberty, about freedom, about the Constitution, about separation of powers, consent to the governed, about why wokeism is such a destructive force to our society.
We had a couple of people that came up to the question line and they disagreed.
We had one guy that was shouting out stuff throughout the speech.
It's nothing new.
We're used to that.
But honestly, it's one of the best events we've ever done in the history of Turning Point USA.
The spirit, the love of the nation, the love of the ideas was one of the best events we've ever had.
And I encourage you to watch it on our Rumble feed.
You could watch it on our social media channels.
And what was so interesting is that the students that came up were from all over the world.
First generation immigrants from Brazil, second generation Mexican-American, first generation.
I think we had somebody from Vietnam.
We had people from all over the world that came up and asked questions.
So, Charlie, I love what you're doing.
I love what you stand for.
I love what Turning Point USA stands for.
By all objective measures, it was a very diverse group.
Now, I only mention that because if you were to read the news articles about what happened, like the Chicago Sun-Times, you'd get a completely different impression.
The Chicago Sun-Times leads with the article: Student Groups Protest Charlie Kirk Appearance at UIC by Emmanuel Camarillo.
Protesters say Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk promote anti-LGBTQ views.
Quote, I think it's disgusting that the university has these people on campus.
And effectively, the entire article goes through just doing the press work for the activists.
But what bothers me is that it's so far from the truth.
Did this reporter go into the room?
I don't think he did.
I don't think this reporter covered a single question, comment, or sentiment of what actually happened at the event.
The Tribune was there, and they cover the Tribune story, it's just the same.
The Chicago Tribune says UIC students protest conservative speakers, Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens.
But that's not the takeaway.
How about you guys cover Chicago Tribune or Chicago Sun-Times?
That a thousand students of all different backgrounds, of all different walks of life, attended a conservative speech, not the fact that there were 40 or 50 protesters outside.
You see, the Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Sun-Times are so intellectually and morally bankrupt that they can't get themselves to admit that our ideas might actually resonate and be popular.
Here's my response to the Chicago Tribune live at the event yesterday in front of a thousand-plus-person crowd in downtown Chicago.
And all they want to talk about is Antifa outside.
They don't want to talk about how popular ideas are, about how people said repeatedly, we had an amazing young black woman come up and talk about her testimony for pro-life values.
Not a mention of that by the Chicago Tribune or Chicago Sun-Times.
I'm going to tell you the significance of this, but play cut 140.
I saw this.
Somebody sent me this article of the Tribune's coverage of our upcoming event here, which was basically a press release for the Apparatch outside.
Students at UIC are planning to protest a Turning Point USA College Event Thursday featuring far-right speakers, Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens' past use of hate speech and discriminatory language against marginalized groups indicates that these figures are in search of furthering divisions and triggering people rather than engaging in meaningful discussion.
We don't care about race around here, we care about your ideas and your values.
So I just think it's been one of the most beautiful question lines we've ever done that make those idiots outside look like what they are.
Normally, I don't give these people any oxygen, but these people are my hometown papers.
But also, you know, I had a coffee this morning with some of our supporters at Turning Point USA.
And one of them did not attend the event.
And he said, wow, I read the article in the Tribune.
It looked like a really rough night.
I said, no, no, no, it was not a rough night.
It was a great night.
He said, oh, really?
The Tribune made it seem as if there were all these protesters.
And did the event even go on?
And how was it?
And that shows in real time the power of their lies.
In real time, I saw that somebody believed the headline, oh, wow, tons of protesters, all this calamity.
And it was the opposite.
It was an event full of patriotism.
It was peaceful.
It was beautiful.
These are people that want to take back Chicago.
These are people we literally was incredible.
We had a whole group of Romanians there.
We had a whole group of Brazilians there.
We had a whole group of Brazilian Americans, Romanian Americans.
The point is that the big criticism that the Tribune launches against us is that we're racist and we're bigoted.
How about you go in and actually talk to some of the attendees?
But this is not just annoying.
This does real damage to our country.
This does real damage to the core fiber, the fabric of who we are, because then people believe it.
And I mean, I've never seen in my 10 years of doing this such dishonest reporting of event versus reality.
I mean, sometimes they'll say, okay, Charlie Kirk and Candace have an event.
They don't even mention the event.
That's what's so amazing.
Instead, they mention the protests as if the protests are the thing worth focusing on, the Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Sun-Times.
That's not reporting.
No wonder why these newspapers are going bankrupt.
And I hope they go bankrupt.
Because there's something really exceptional that happened in Chicago that is noteworthy.
That in one of the bluest, most Democrat cities in America, on a college campus, mind you, a college campus where the violent extremists were able to cancel Donald Trump's appearance seven years earlier.
We're able to have an event that is focused on core American ideas where we fill up an entire auditorium and we are very well received and people are encouraged and they're filled up and they want to do something positive for their nation.
That's a big story.
I don't care if you're a left-wing journalist for the trib or for the Sun-Times.
Maybe just mention it or notice it.
You can have your snarky one-liners in there, but maybe they should say, wow, this is one of the largest conservative events in the city of Chicago of the last couple of years.
And I will challenge somebody, find me a larger, more successful conservative event in Chicago over the last couple of years.
You won't find one.
But no, instead, they want to mention that a couple people are protesting on the side of the street because they're trying to build up the resistance and crush the actual truth.
It's one of the most dishonest things I've seen in quite some time.
But these are not journalists.
These are activists that masquerade as journalists.
And they're afraid to acknowledge the reality that our ideas are resonating, that Turning Point USA is building a movement, that what we are saying is rational, what we are saying is reasonable.
They don't have a single quote in these articles about what we talked about, about the dialogue, about how we invited people who disagree with us to go to the front of the line.
Instead, the Chicago Sun-Times only has pictures of the protests.
If you're going to cover the protests, why don't you walk into the room and see what people are saying in there?
This does serious damage to our country.
The media was called the enemy of the American people by Donald Trump.
And boy, when they act like this, that is certainly true.
Hey, everybody, this is Charlie Kirk.
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So let me just show you why they have to lie about us.
Let me show you the power of what we are doing on these college campuses, of what our Turning Point USA students are accomplishing every single day, what courage can do, why bravery is needed.
Let me tell you and let me show you why they have to protest us, why the Chicago Sun-Times has to misrepresent and not even cover us, not even ask for comment, because they know that conservative ideas have the potential to be persuasive and popular.
Cut 115 is a student comes up to the question line to ask me a question, but he makes a comment that I respond, and I will say it again on this program.
It is why I do what I do.
Charlie, why do you travel 300 days a year?
I don't anymore.
I travel a lot, but I used to just about a year and a half ago.
Charlie, why did you, actually, I actually have the final tally.
It's somewhere around 2,600 days of travel over the last decade.
It's about 90% of the time on the road.
And I wouldn't trade it for the world.
I saw this beautiful country many times over and got a lot of things done.
Why do you do that?
I do it because of this clip you're about to watch.
I do it because I believe that our ideas, our values can improve lives and improve our country.
Play cut 115.
Yeah, Charlie, I also want to thank you specifically because I used to be a Bernie Sanders reporter.
I used to be a Democratic Socialist.
It was one of your video that really woke me up.
And you're an inspiration.
You're awesome.
Thank you.
You are why I do what I do.
Incredibly powerful.
That's why the Chicago Tribune has to lie about me.
That's why the Chicago Sun-Times has to lie about me.
That's why the Anti-Defamation League has to lie about Turning Point USA because of that clip right there.
Because when our ideas are given a short hearing, a YouTube clip here, a Rumble clip there, a tweet here, a one-off dialogue here or there, all of a sudden we are able to challenge the lies that have been filling our society.
The lights turn on and they say, maybe I have been lied to my entire life.
The truth has a pattern of being able to do that.
And that should give you hope, everybody.
He literally said, I was a Bernie Sanders liberal.
And thanks to the work of Turning Point USA and your videos, I have now been able to wake up.
That's a beautiful thing.
And that should just give you confidence, everybody.
We have to push harder.
We have to get more people to see the truth.
We got to do more videos, more podcasts.
We have to challenge these lies.
There's some emails I get, Charlie, it's all lost.
People can't be converted.
That is nonsense.
I don't believe that for a second.
If that was true, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing by going to these campuses.
And boy, is that encouraging.
Boy, is that just a needed shot in the arm to see that people are not just getting fired up that already agree with me.
That I know is happening.
People that aren't just getting braver, but people are actually changing their worldview to be properly anchored in truth.
Political enlightenment is a threat to the regime.
Their narrative is built on a total and complete house of cards.
And if the Chicago Tribune or the Chicago Sun-Times or any of these left-wing papers had a shred of honesty or integrity, which they don't, they would have mentioned that I had an open mic for 50 minutes last evening and anybody could have come to the front of the line and asked a question.
Anybody.
You could say that I'm an awful person.
You call me a bigot.
Could say all the things you were saying outside, and I would have allowed you to do it, but I would have responded respectfully and firmly and factually.
But no, dialogue is not a value to the left.
Professor's Dangerous Narrative00:04:05
No, they're trying to stop speech at every single turn.
They're trying to shut us up because they know that speech is actually a threat.
And by the way, they're trying to do it now next week.
We're going to University of California, Davis, on Tuesday.
And a professor, that's right.
I want to make sure I'm clear about this.
A professor wrote this article.
This is what they write about because these are cowards.
I want to invite this guy to come to our event.
I would love to be able to speak to him.
And he says this following thing.
It's actually, it is really slanderous in one way.
He says, Charlie Kirk, a far-right grifter who fronts Turning Point USA, an organization of Hitler, enjoyers with a special animus for trans people.
That is libel.
We're going to do everything we can to hold this guy legally accountable, writing in a paper of an upcoming campus event saying that Turning Point USA is an organization of Hitler, Hitler Enjoyer, Hitler Enjoyers.
This guy is a professor.
You're welcome to come to the event, tough guy, Professor Joshua Clover.
Something tells me you're not going to do that.
You can have the mic and you can tell me why I'm wrong.
You're also not a very good writer.
I don't know how you ever got your PhD.
I'd love to read your dissertation.
I don't think I would learn very much.
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I just got to show you a picture of the professor who is calling me a Hitler adorer, which is slanderous and libelous.
Can you just put a picture of this up on screen right out of Central Casting?
Charlie, if you were to cast the role for an arrogant professor lacking in wisdom, what would he look like?
I'm hoping it's up on screen because it's just too good to be true.
And that is, what is this guy's name?
Joshua Clover.
You know, it's really interesting.
He, despite the fact that he just writes really sloppily and comes across as a really low IQ person, he's really widely published.
So I hope he shows up to the event.
He's welcome to challenge me to my face or let's see if he's an intellectual coward like most people are so arrogant.
By the way, he is prominently featured on our professor watch list as well.
So our team does a great job.
By the way, Turning Point USA runs a great professor watch list.
Oh, yeah.
He says, I hope it will be uncontroversial.
He says this, that Israel should be ended.
That's really a deep thought, Professor Clover.
He says, I mean, it's easier to shoot cops when their backs are turned.
No, that's what he said.
That's a professor.
He literally, that's why I love the professor watch list because we actually capture what these people say.
He said as a direct quote, he said, it's easier to shoot police officers when their backs are turned.
He says, quote, I am thankful that every living police officer will one day be dead, some by their own hand, some by others, too many of old age.
This is a professor at University of California, Davis.
I don't, maybe he doesn't like when people actually mention that he's calling for the open killing of police officers.
Silicon Valley Bank Crisis00:09:47
Praise God for our turning point USA team.
That's why they hate the professor watch list.
But you're welcome to come, Professor Clover.
Come tell me why you think police officers should be killed because that's your openly stated position.
You're more than welcome to attend.
Okay, we have something here that I want to talk about.
A very troubling economic development that's happening in real time.
This is a really big story, and I hope it does not spread.
And I do not want to add to panic.
Let me be very clear.
I'm here to present the facts.
I'm here to tell you what is happening.
And then I will editorialize a little bit.
But topics like this can make people very anxious and very uneasy.
So I want to make sure I'm clear and specific.
But here's what we do know.
We do know that one of the largest banks in America has collapsed today, Silicon Valley Bank.
So let me read an email that we have from one of our vendors here at Turning Point on air here.
I'm not going to tell you which one.
Give an idea of how fragile the situation is.
One of our vendors that we use to help produce our show for some of our technology says, as of today, we kindly request that you hold any pending payments to Silicon Valley Bank for us and instead follow the instructions below.
For bank transfer, go to this bank and send us a check here.
So that's just one.
We also have team members that have loans and mortgages with Silicon Valley Bank that are very nervous because the entire bank has collapsed.
Let's play a news clip of this, PlayCup 117.
To go from the headlines yesterday to now the bank officially failing.
Anybody who lived through 2008 remembers that when you have a crisis of confidence, things can move pretty quickly here.
But yes, the FDIC is taking the bank into receivership.
This, guys, is one of the largest bank failures in history.
Remember, it's one of the top 20 banks in the United States.
At the end of December, it had more than $200 billion in assets.
By comparison, Washington Mutual was about $300 billion.
So just a little comparison there about what kind of a moment we are sitting in here.
Now, look, I don't want to be cruel, but let me read something from Silicon Valley Bank's website.
Let me read SVB.com.
Silicon Valley Bank is dedicated to expanding our commitments to create a more diverse and equitable and inclusive company culture and innovation ecosystem.
Is this the Silicon Valley collapse the beginning of the collapse of the woke economy?
You see, if you read Silicon Valley Bank's website, they have an entire portion of their website and their company culture dedicated to DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion.
How's that working out for you, Silicon Valley Bank?
Oh, they have a whole statement.
They say we have a whole team.
They say workforce diversity metrics.
Here they have here.
They say that they're very proud of how diverse their workforce is, about how many people they have in their senior leadership, about how they have an equal opportunity supplier diversity score.
Oh, really, Silicon Valley Bank, maybe you should have been more, I don't know, concerned about whether or not you're able to make good loans and keep your depositors secure.
Now, it's very possible that I am overly exaggerating the woke component here, but I do find it fascinating because if you go to Silicon Valley's website, it is not de-emphasized.
It is right there in your face.
Look how good of a people we are.
Look how strong of a company you are because our diversity is our strength.
Hey, Silicon Valley Bank, is diversity still your strength right now?
Are you a stronger solvent company because of your diversity?
Are you able to be a company that, I don't know, is a bank that is open because of your diversity?
Of course not.
It's rubbish.
When you're running a company, diversity is not your strength.
Your customers can be your strength.
Your products are your strength.
Your employees are your strength.
I sure hope that this is not a canary in the coal mine.
Right now, the market is actually not acting too jittery.
The market is down, what, 100 points?
It was down 500 or 600 points yesterday.
This is one of the largest bank collapses in American history that funds a lot of venture work and a lot of startups and a lot of entrepreneurs.
We might be seeing the first domino of what we have predicted as a 2023 economic calamity and recession.
Silicon Valley Bank was one of the top 20 banks in America.
Well, hundreds of billions of dollars in assets.
And now the bank has officially been shut down by California state regulators because it is now insolvent.
You got to wonder, what were they, who were they underwriting loans to?
Probably a lot of crypto businesses?
Or were they politicizing the loan process?
Just a question.
This all happened shockingly fast.
And I sure hope we don't see more bank collapses.
The collapse has now occurred because on Wednesday night, the bank made a surprise announcement that it needed to raise more than $2 billion in stock.
A month ago, did they not see this coming?
Well, apparently the bank had a cash shortfall because it had a large number of startup companies as depositors, and those startups have pulled out their funds.
Oh, you mean that the startup companies that are all in the tech space that is hyper-inflated, fragile, and ready to collapse?
Venture capital then pulled out its money and Peter Thiel's founder fund told people to get out and the cascade went from there.
There's a lot of fear that this could turn into a wider contagion event dragging down the financial industry.
Bank stocks are all off in Europe and down 4% in a single day.
Deutsche Bank is down 7%.
Michael Burry, the man who made a fortune anticipating the 2000 crisis, said this might be our end run.
How can you be one of the top 20 banks in America and be insolvent in a matter of days?
What exactly is going on with those?
I would love to see their balance sheets at some of these banks.
And not to try to, you know, dissent, try to erode confidence, but is JPMorgan doing this?
Is Wells Fargo doing this?
I mean, how is this possible?
How, first of all, is one of the most heavily regulated industries, post-Lehman Brothers and post-Bear Stearns and post-08, how does a bank collapse in just a couple of days?
How, what, what are you giving loans out to?
Oh, no, no, but you go to their website.
You go to the Silicon Valley website.
They're all, this is what they say.
They say, we believe inclusion ignites innovation.
We embrace a culture of diversity.
We are intentionally and strategically working for a world where every client and employee learn about our commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion.
So then you download the document.
It's this super long PDF file that they have at Silicon Valley Bank website where you can actually read through their diversity statement.
You could read through their equity statement.
Didn't do them much good, obviously, because they were insolvent in a couple of days.
They're a bunch of either they're incompetent or they're thieves or they're a little bit of both.
There are some allegations around the CEO selling stock.
I don't know if that's true.
We'll look into that.
I don't want to get into that.
By the way, this is actually the second California lender to fail.
Another firm, Silvergate Capital, just went under because it was heavily involved in cryptocurrency.
A couple weeks ago, one of my friends that I know in the real estate development space called me.
They said, Charlie, a $200 million project in San Francisco just went belly up.
It was supposed to be condominiums and apartments.
They couldn't make it work, and they had to close on the note.
One of the largest condo development foreclosures that we have seen in nearly a decade.
The Silicon Valley Bank, this is so interesting.
We got to tweet this out.
Our values guide us at Silicon Valley Bank.
We embrace diverse perspectives.
We start with empathy for others.
We speak and act with integrity.
Obviously, you don't, Greg Becker, president and CEO of Silicon Valley Bank.
Again, I don't want to be cruel.
I don't want to delight in somebody's economic misfortune.
But when you have ridiculous statements like this, Silicon Valley Bank is creating a more diverse, equitable, and inclusive and accessible environment within Silicon Valley Bank and the innovation ecosystem.
In the broader innovation economy, we're focused on breaking down systemic barriers to entry and success, investing in opportunities that ensure more founders and investors with a range of experiences, ideas are represented in our ecosystem.
I want to ask a very simple question the media will ignore.
Did Silicon Valley Bank prioritize diversity over competency when building a business and issuing out loans?
Did Silicon Valley Bank get more distracted about the mirage and the hologram of diversity, equity, inclusion rather than running a business?
Is this the first modern era woke bank collapse?
The very same thing that we have been warning about, that you cannot run businesses in a capitalistic free market society when you prioritize diversity, equity, inclusion.
And by the way, if you go through this page after page after page after page, they brag at Silicon Valley Bank, 100% of their employees participated in DEI education.
Well, guess what, Silicon Valley Bank?
Now 100% of your employees don't have a job.
Well, I'm glad they all have diversity, equity, inclusion training.
Now they're unemployed.
They have a 5% increase in black representation.
They have a 43% increase in women, 66% increase in Hispanic and Latinx, and DEI in action.
This is a massive document talking about how good of a person they are.
Oh, they said that they invest with $11.2 billion in lower income neighborhoods and try to raise up black voices.
Yeah, maybe you should have run an ethical company that's actually solvent.
Wokeism will be the collapse of our modern, wealthy civil society.
I guarantee you that played a role in the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank.
New York Felony Charges00:05:13
Looks like the New York District Attorney is going to try to indict Donald Trump.
Maggie Haberman has a summary of this from the New York Times, Play Cut 113.
So we don't, we're entering uncharted territory here.
I mean, I think it's important to note about this case.
As Kara said, this is a misdemeanor that they're trying to push up to a felony.
It's a really kind of exotic case.
And a judge could decide, no, we're going to knock it back to a misdemeanor.
That is difficult for a prosecutor when it's a former president.
I understand, you know, justice is supposed to be equal for all, but people take into consideration factors like this.
Take it all together, it requires 12 people, and it just takes one person to have reasonable doubt.
And even in pretty, you know, progressive Manhattan, I think probably a defense lawyer could find one person, and that's a risk here.
Exotic?
What is this?
A sports car?
Oh, it's really exotic.
This whole thing is so, so beyond the constitutional purview.
New York City is a mess, and you have the New York Attorney General and DA that are going to try to indict Donald Trump on this.
It's very clear what's happening.
So according to four different people who spoke to the New York Times, prosecutors in Manhattan recently invited Trump to testify before a grand jury.
According to their legal analysis, this is a sign that prosecutors are very close to bringing charges against Trump because in New York, all potential defendants have the right to testify before a grand jury before an indictment.
This offer is usually declined.
Interestingly, though, the Times doesn't seem to know what the charges are.
They'll just make them up.
But the Manhattan DA inquiry has centered on Trump's alleged hush money payment to Stormy Daniels.
Of course, we're waiting on Fulton County charges as well.
Now, mind you, here you have the New York Attorney General that's worried about some hush money payment that Donald Trump allegedly did.
And Hunter Biden is allowed to sell out our country to China for tens of millions of dollars.
We won't know until the actual charges materialize, but we can guess the gist here.
These investigations have been politically charged and motivated from the beginning.
And the charges are going to be politically motivated as well.
And you could tell because the left is bringing charges at all, because literally everywhere else in American life, their drive is to charge less, prosecute less, and convict less.
For example, in Maryland, the Hyper Democrat state legislature is considering a bill that will eliminate the charge of felony murder for anybody under 25.
Get rid of felony murder under 25.
You're 19, you kill somebody, doesn't matter.
Felony murder will not be an option.
So if you deliberately burn down a building and someone else dies, that's murder, even if you weren't specifically trying to kill that person because you killed a person in the commission of a crime.
They're going after Donald Trump for a variety of reasons, but I am curious.
I'm curious what you think of this.
If Donald Trump is indicted, does that make you more or less likely to vote for him?
If Donald Trump is indicted by the New York district attorney, does that change your opinion?
The New York Times said in this case, the second crime, well, first of all, let me read the whole thing.
If Mr. Trump is indicted, this is from the New York Times.
Convicting him or sending him to prison will be challenging.
The case against the former president hinges on an untested and therefore risky legal theory involving a complex interplay of laws, all accounting to a low-level felony.
Mr. Trump were ultimately convicted.
He would face a maximum sentence of four years, though prison time would not be mandatory.
It's not about putting him in jail.
They would like that.
It's about preventing him from being on the ballot in 2024.
In some states, if you are a felon, you're not allowed to be on the ballot.
In some states, if you're a felon, if you're a convicted felon, you're not allowed to run for a federal office.
We'll find out what states they are.
I bet Georgia is one of them.
I'm just speculating.
Mr. Trump's lawyers are sure to attack Mr. Cohen, who in 2018 pleaded guilty to federal charges related to hush money.
In New York, falsifying business records can amount to a crime.
To elevate the crime to a felony charge, Mr. Bragg's prosecutors must show that Mr. Trump had intent to defraud, including an intent to commit or conceal a second crime.
In this case, the second crime could be a violation of New York's state election law.
While hush money is not inherently illegal, the prosecutors could argue that $130,000 payout effectively became an improper donation of Mr. Trump's campaign under the theory that because the money silenced Ms. Daniels, it benefited his candidacy.
This whole thing is such a ridiculous waste of time, twisting themselves into legal pretzels.
Meanwhile, crime is up, rape is up, murder is up, carjackings are up, arson is up, and what is your law enforcement focused on?
Getting Donald Trump.
Real criminals are terrorizing the streets of New York City, and they're focused on something Donald Trump maybe did six or seven or eight years ago in some sort of strange, in their own words, exotic legal theory.
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