Newly-obtained emails released by the House GOP reveal that Anthony Fauci secretly solicited the "study" he used to "debunk" the origin of Covid in a Chinese lab. Charlie runs through the story's details and explains why it is so devastating to the credibility of America's elites. Then, Kari Lake joins the program to update listeners on her ongoing legal battle as she fights for fair elections.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Why They Lied About the Virus00:09:52
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Today on the Charlie Kirk show, we look back in time.
Why was it they needed to lie about where the virus came from?
And then Carrie Lake joins us for the latest on her legal challenge.
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Back in February of 2020, just about three years ago, three years ago, boy, I remember where I was, and Andrew and I were reminiscing on a moment in time.
I could write an essay, if not a short book, on what could be called the Last Supper of Mar-a-Lago.
But you can actually dig up the exact date.
I do remember it was late February and early March.
We were on tour for my book, The MAGA Doctrine, New York Times bestseller, almost New York Times number one.
We got so close.
Amazon number one bestseller.
We were traveling the country, having a great time.
We were doing events all across Florida.
We were doing events at Liberty University.
And the news of COVID started to bubble up more and more and more.
We didn't really know what to make of it.
Hypochondriacs in our life were really freaking out, and people were saying, oh, it's nothing.
It's just a cold.
It's just a flu.
We've been through this before.
And we were concluding our book tour at Mar-a-Lago.
What better place to conclude a book tour on the MAGA doctrine than at Mar-a-Lago?
And when we get there, it was as if it was a great Gatsby party.
The energy was off the charts.
And there were five or six different high-stakes things happening simultaneously when we came into Mar-a-Lago.
President Trump was literally meeting with Jair Bolsenaro talking about big trade deals and negotiating partnerships.
Mike Pence was there meeting with some people.
Jared Kushner and Ivanka were meeting with some people.
Tucker Carlson was there just to go meet with Donald Trump to warn him about COVID.
Kimberly Guilfoyle's birthday party was happening.
And then we were there.
It was a circus, but in a good way.
And the energy was off the charts.
The attitude that night in late February, 2020, was that Trump could not lose.
There was nothing that could happen.
The economy was roaring.
Morale was up.
We were going to run up against this Biden guy.
It was a joke.
There was an aura of invincibility.
The election was eight or nine months out.
There was almost an attitude of what are they going to throw at the bulletproof Teflon Trump now.
And yet there was that little whisper of, what's this virus?
What's this?
What's this thing?
And it was very interesting when Pence left the evening early and he didn't seem too happy.
Pence left.
And remember, Pence was tasked with looking into the virus and was actually in charge of the virus response.
And he kind of left.
And you could read something into it, but did he know something about it?
Maybe, maybe not.
All while this was happening, Donald Trump and his administration did not know that Anthony Fauci was working in the shadows to cover up the origins of this virus.
While Donald Trump was negotiating deals with Bolsinaro, while Donald Trump was overseeing an amazing economy, while his political stock was at a record high, Anthony Fauci was hard at work.
The deep state was beginning, not just beginning, they were in the midst of a major cover-up.
On February 1st, 2020, Fauci and at least a dozen other scientists held a conference call about the virus, which hadn't even been given a name yet.
On the call, they were just called it was termed a novel coronavirus, likely leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
So on February 1st, they were given information that the origin of the virus likely came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
It wasn't proven, but they knew from that moment that it was a very valid theory with legitimate evidence to back it up.
The immediate response from Fauci, though, according to new emails that have just been discovered by the House Republicans, the immediate reaction by Anthony Fauci was not, let's better understand the virus.
Let's not look at therapeutics.
No, they spent a valuable month of time that could have been getting America prepared for this virus.
They spent a valuable month covering up the truth.
Three days after the call, four of the scientists who were on it had drafted a whole scientific paper arguing that it actually had emerged in nature from a bat, a preposterous theory, but it was a very important one.
According to the emails obtained by House Republicans, this paper was sent to Fauci for editing before release.
And it was published in mid-February 2020, February 17th.
Specifically, co-author Dr. Kristen Anderson says he was prompted to write the paper by Fauci himself.
According to more emails that House Republicans have found, two months after the paper was written, NIH director Francis Collins sent Fauci a message complaining the paper hadn't done, quote, enough to debunk the lab leak theory.
Let me pause.
Francis Collins parades and calls himself a Christian.
Some pastors say, oh, I love Francis Collins.
We get emails from people saying Francis Collins is great.
This guy was engaged in one of the most immoral, deceitful cover-ups of the truth of the modern era.
He has a lot of explaining to do.
What a shameful excuse for a Christian Francis Collins is for what he did here.
He said to Fauci that they hadn't done enough to debunk the lab leak theory.
Evil.
That is an evil thing to do.
So the next day, Fauci went to the press, cited the paper heavily while trying to suggest the paper had nothing to do with him.
Now, there's a couple reasons here, but let me read the quote from the paper.
Quote, there was a study recently that we can make available to you where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists look at the sequences in bats as they evolve and the mutations that it took to get to the point where it was now totally consistent with the jump of species from an animal to a human.
This very same playbook was used six months later, I'm sorry, nine months later to cover up the Hunter Biden laptop story and cover Russian disinformation.
The same playbook.
They saw something they didn't like and they got a bunch of experts to put their credibility on the line.
They use the same template.
They got a bunch of virologists.
They got a bunch of former national security folks and they sign a letter and they say, Well, the Hunter Biden laptop looks like classic Russian disinformation and Politico runs the story and they censor you on social media.
The same template of these thought-terminating, not just clichés, but thought-terminating actions was used.
Ask yourself, why was Fauci so motivated to spend U.S. taxpayer money to spread misinformation and cover up the truth about the origin of the virus?
And the answer is very clear.
First, because he knew he was vulnerable if we took a closer look at the Wuhan Lab Institute of Virology.
Even if he didn't know that the virus came from there, he knew that a close look could discover the U.S. funding gain of function research.
It was about protecting himself, but it's deeper than that.
I'm going to tell you the second wrinkle in a second.
Fauci was willing to lie to the American people, use valuable time that could have saved people's lives, potentially endanger millions of people, all to help himself.
And Francis Collins was in on it, and Rochelle Walensky was in on it, and Deborah Burks was in on it.
And now we have breaking news this morning.
According to a source inside of CNN who spoke to Fox, then President Jeff Zucker told CNN not to investigate the lab leak hypothesis because he said it was a Trump talking point.
Even though Trump was totally correct, it was all the biggest sham, the narrative industrial complex we could imagine.
You supposedly have the worst pandemic in a century with millions of people's lives on the line, but you refuse to investigate stories of where they come from.
Why?
Yes, because Fauci's hands are dirty with the funding and the connection via EcoHealth Alliance and Peter Dask, but it's actually politically much more simple than that.
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Why did Fauci and Burks and Collins find it to be so critical in February and March of 2020 to lie about the origin of the virus?
Yes, the Wuhan Institute of Virology is part of it, but no, no, no, no.
It's actually, it's right there.
It's so simple.
Remember Donald Trump's original reaction to this?
He called it the China virus, of which I could take some credit because he actually quote-tweeted one of my tweets and retweeted it.
And from there, we're off to the races on the China virus.
I remember I was sitting in the airport, the Tallahassee airport, when I sent out that tweet.
And even Bloomberg and many other journalists credited our tweet with changing that.
But obviously, Donald Trump popularized it.
But it's so simple.
If the virus came out of nature and was quote unquote an act of God, then it does not build domestic strength or political agreement to hold China accountable, which would have given an advantage to Trump politically in 2020.
They needed to sow confusion.
They needed to make people confused and unclear regarding the origins of the virus.
Remember, Trump had just beaten up on China economically.
Trump was well known for dealing with China with a heavy hand, whether it be tariffs for solar panels, tariffs for all sorts of other domestic imports.
If Fauci and Collins would have come out and said this probably came from a Chinese Institute of Virology, Donald Trump would have been able to use COVID and the response to COVID to build political support.
They were freaking out because the only way to prevent Donald Trump from using this crisis as a way to actually get more popular was to say, no, no, no, no, it actually just came from an act of nature.
It was not from the CCP.
Remember, Donald Trump restricted travel from China and they called him xenophobic.
They were hugging people for Chinese New Year on the streets of San Francisco.
They were deathly afraid that Donald Trump would actually use this as a rallying cry to get stronger against China, which would have actually improved his political strength in 2020.
This is why the media had to react like this, play cut 23.
Tom Cotton a couple of days ago spouting a conspiracy theory that the Chinese made this virus up.
We know that it's been debunked that this virus was man-made or modified or anything like that.
Both scientists and the U.S. intelligence community agree that this coronavirus was not man-made.
That is not a possibility.
Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh with zero proof suggesting a Chinese bioweapon lab is to blame.
And yet this week, Donald Trump is still pushing the debunked bunkum.
The virus was not man-made.
Debunked conspiracy theory.
They needed to do this because if Donald Trump and the Trump 2020 presidential campaign would have been able to say the CCP I've been warning you against just launched a killer virus on our people that is killing our citizens.
And now here's what we're going to do about it.
His agenda of America first would have fit perfectly.
It was hand in glove.
It was waiting to happen.
And Fauci knew it.
And Collins knew it.
And the regime knew it.
And they said, look, we're going to be able to get mail-in ballots and we're going to be able to get blue state bailouts and we're going to be able to spend trillions of dollars.
We're going to be able to lock down the economy.
We're going to be able to get the tech companies more powerful.
We're going to be able to get the pharmaceutical companies richer.
But the one thing that is an issue is if Donald Trump is able to grow a nationalist response to the CCP virus.
So they needed to muddy the waters.
They needed to make it unclear.
They needed to make it seem as if, well, we're not really sure where the virus came from because that weakened and disempowered Trump's greatest political weapon, which is a restoration of national sovereignty and a revitalization of American strength.
They saw this virus as an opportunity for all the most sinister reforms we've seen the last couple of years that has made us poor, that has kept our borders open, all this sort of stuff.
But the one ingredient they needed to try to muddy was where the virus actually originated.
If it came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which it did, it allowed Donald Trump a window to rally national domestic support to hold China, not just accountable, but justice against the CCP.
That's why this lie mattered.
And that's why they don't really care that it's coming out anymore.
Because as Harry Reid smirked in the interview with CNN, they said, well, you lied about Mitt Romney's tax returns, didn't you?
He said, well, it worked, didn't it?
And that shows you the lack of morality on the left.
The ends justify the means.
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Arizona Election Law Concerns00:15:15
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Joining us now is the winner of the vice presidential aspect of the straw poll from CPAC, Kerry Lake.
Carrie, welcome back to the program.
It's good to see you, Charlie.
How are you doing?
I'm doing well.
Thank you.
So let's talk about the big news about the Arizona Supreme Court.
Walk us through it.
Well, we filed our case with the Supreme Court last week.
I'm really proud of it.
And we're asking for them to take our case and take a look at it.
You know, when we first went to the Superior Court way back in, I guess it was December, we had 10 really strong counts that were proving these elections were not only corrupt, but disenfranchised voters and took our rights away.
And that judge threw out eight of those counts.
We're asking for the Supreme Court to bring back some of those counts that are very strong to listen to our case and rule in accordance with the law and the Constitution.
My fear is if they don't do this, they will then be saying, basically sending the message that election laws and election procedures don't matter.
Going forward, any county can run any kind of lawless, corrupt elections, and we'll look the other way.
That's how important this case is.
They're either going to send a message that election laws matter, election procedures matter, and the sanctity of our vote matters, or it doesn't.
I believe they'll take it up, and I'm looking forward to finding out if they do that.
So, what's the reputation of the Arizona Supreme Court?
How many sit on the court?
How are they selected?
The governors appoint them, and there are seven on the Supreme Court.
And I feel confident that they will do the right thing.
I'm not going to analyze each and every one of them.
I think they were placed there, and they're sitting at the highest court in our state.
And I believe that they will look to the Constitution, look at the evidence we've presented, and do the right thing.
I know that they don't want to be justices that go down in history as somebody who rubber stamped or put their seal of approval on the most corrupt election our state has ever seen, and maybe our country has ever seen.
That's right.
So, I hope they'll just apply the law.
All we're asking is for them to take the case, look at it, apply the law, so that going forward, we make sure that every election they have to follow the election laws and the procedural rules so that we can be assured that our elections are run not only smoothly, but fairly and honestly.
And people were 100% disenfranchised.
I saw it myself when I went to go vote on election day.
It was a total circus.
It was a disgrace.
And there were lines out the door, poll workers that didn't even know how to fix the tabulators or the machines.
And we know this all across the valley, and judges have decided to do absolutely nothing about it.
And Maricopa County, obviously, you know, they stated that they did not want you to become governor, and they probably did whatever they possibly could to prevent that.
So, you know, I will say this too about Election Day.
You ask any Arizonan, if someone says, oh, the elections were fine, everybody I see on the street says, I didn't know that the elections were this bad until it happened to me.
And I waited in line for four hours, and my vote was put into a second drawer or a third drawer.
People realize what's happening here in Arizona.
They're watching this all over the country.
I was at CPAC.
In Japan, they're watching what's happening.
In Australia, they're watching what's happening in Arizona.
This is an international story.
People know this was rigged.
They see Katie Hobbs, who can't even formulate a cohesive message or sentence, and they know that she didn't win.
And so it's really an international story, what's happening here in Arizona.
And they're all watching and hoping that our justices do the right thing.
So, Carrie, over the weekend, you mentioned something that got my attention.
And I'd love to have you dive into it to our audience, that you were offered money, almost a bribe from powerful people to leave politics.
Tell us about that.
Yeah, well, you know, I was on your show, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago, and you asked me about a run for Senate.
Rumors were swirling.
And I told you, look, you know, dozens of people at this point, it's been thousands of people have reached out saying, you've got to run for Senate.
If things don't work in the courts, you've got to run for Senate.
And I said, look, my priority is the governor's office, the race that we won, and our case.
But if things don't go right well, then I'm not going to get out of politics because I'm not going to let the same people who stole this election take our movement away and silence us.
So I would consider that.
I told you that on your show, and that made some headlines.
And that worried a lot of people.
And on Tuesday of last week, as I was kind of getting myself ready to go to CPAC, I had a visitor at my door, somebody I know, invited the person in.
And they started with an offer for a fancy job title, a nice salary, a position on a board.
If I would just agree to not run for Senate, to not be on the ballot, to just stay out of politics and kind of park it for two years.
To which I laughed.
I said, are you kidding me?
I think you do know that I walked away from a prestigious job and a big paycheck.
I'm not motivated by that.
And the conversation went on.
And as I finally moved this person kind of out of my house and said, I've got things to do.
No, thank you.
It moved into, well, what do you want to make this happen?
We want you out.
There's some powerful people back east who really want you out.
They know that I will win in a primary and I'll frankly win in the general election as well.
And they're very concerned.
They want to put out their typical candidates.
And so the conversation turned to what would it be?
What would your price be?
What's your price?
Well, my price is I want our elections to be run smoothly.
And I want to be in the governor's office where I belong.
And I said, there is no price.
There's no price that you could pay to make me go away or the people of Arizona go away.
We're going to continue to fight.
So I wouldn't take 100.
I wouldn't take a million.
I wouldn't take 10 million.
I wouldn't take 100 million.
That's how important this fight is that we're in right now, Charlie, to save our country.
So can you give us, and I respect the confidentiality, but any flavor or taste of the type of person that made this offer?
Because I mean, our audience is going nuts.
And I would like to.
I know everyone wants me to reveal who came to my door.
And I don't want to shoot the messenger.
This is somebody who I think is a good person and may be being a little bit blackmailed and some things hanging over this person's head as well.
The real problem is the people who are making the offer.
And it's powerful people back east.
I have my ideas on who they are.
I don't know for sure who they are, but I have an idea who they are.
And I think it's more of the, I hate to say it, the rhino wing of our party.
They are trying to make MAGA go away.
They don't want America First candidates.
And I think when I get on the ballot, I help other America First candidates.
And I think we all know of a big America First candidate who's going to be on the ballot, right?
Back East.
I wonder who that might be.
That would be a very, I don't think you need to have a lot of speculation.
There were some big meetings happening last week, and I'm sure that I was a topic of conversation.
But, you know, I was at first not going to say anything about it.
And I got to talking to my husband and we chuckled about it.
It's like, oh, my gosh, you hear about these things happening in politics, but then they happen to you.
And it's kind of like the mafia making you an offer you can't refuse, but I refuse the offer.
And the next offer may not be a friendly one, if you know what I mean.
So I kind of put that out there, a little bit of a life insurance plan, if you will, to let people know these people want to stop the America First movement.
It's dangerous to their plan.
I believe their plan is to push a globalist agenda.
And that's what my speech was about on Saturday night, or I'm sorry, Friday night at the Ronald Reagan dinner.
We're not even Democrat versus Republican right now.
We are Americanism versus globalism right now.
And people are not awake to this.
And I talked about how the original globalists was the British monarchy and our founding fathers in 1776, the colonialists were fighting the globalists.
The biggest globalists the world had ever seen was the British monarchy.
And we battled back and won that.
And we're not going to give it away.
We're not going to give America away.
Too many men and women have fought for this country for us to let it go.
Well, I loved your juxtaposition where you connect, you say, King George, and now we're not going to bow to George Soros.
That's exactly right.
It's the same sort of subject versus citizen tension.
So, Carrie, let me ask you, and I'd love to get you, I think we have you for another segment here, just your own.
And I know you can't answer it plainly, but can you at least clue us in?
Because we have, this is your most positive base of audience, right?
love you here just people are so excited thank you just kind of what's the calculus what are the inputs of this senate race that is opening up that is going to be unlike any other you got kirsten cinema that might run as a moderate independent you got the commie ruben gallego that might get the democrat all this remains to still be sorted out but where your thought process where's your thought process at Okay, one of the things I think is that the globalist agenda would love to see Kirsten Cinema remain in there.
She's voting with them.
She votes with the hedge fund guys.
She votes with them all the time.
I think they would like to put a weak MAGA candidate up.
And I think they'd like to have, as you call them, did you say Commie?
I didn't say it.
You did.
Ruben Gallego.
That's not a reach.
And then what they want to do is.
That's not a reach.
He's a Marxist.
That is not a reach.
You're right.
He might say he's a socialist.
I think it goes further than that.
And I think what they want to see happen is for them to see the MAGA candidate lose and the commie lose and then say, look, Arizona's purple.
This is what they want.
Think about it.
When you're talking about these hedge fund people, there are trillions on the line.
We're not talking billions.
We're talking trillions on the line.
That's how powerful that Senate seat is.
And I think they're with Kirsten Cinema on that.
And so they can't have a strong MAGA candidate.
They need one that's a little weak.
And then their messages would be the people of Arizona are done with MAGA.
The people of Arizona are done with socialism and that kind of thing.
And they want purple or whatever they'll say.
That's, I think, what they want.
And so therefore, having a very strong MAGA candidate would be difficult, if not deadly, to that plan.
Kerry, your thoughts.
It seems that there's a new push for early voting and ballot harvesting.
You have, you know, a lot of personal experience.
Your campaign was sabotaged.
You should be in the governor's mansion right now or the governor's office.
It's a tragedy that you're not.
Your thoughts on this?
Well, I'm not for if we if we go to that ballot harvesting method and mode, it's going to be who can cheat the hardest.
We have an opportunity right now.
We've got legislatures that are sitting in session to pressure these people to do the right thing and pass laws, do everything they can to use their power to make sure that we have better laws with more teeth in them.
And we won.
I won because of election day voting.
In the primary, they couldn't pump in enough phony ballots because we showed up in droves.
I mean, think of what happened in Pinnell County, where one hour into Election Day, they ran out of Republican ballots.
By the end of the day, a quarter of all polling places have ran out of Republican ballots.
They didn't even put enough ballots in.
And so they tried to kind of sabotage it, but we still outvoted them.
And we won in huge ways by voting on Election Day.
I believe in Election Day voting because they can't, they don't know how many ballots to jam into the system, phony ballots, when people wait until Election Day to vote.
They really don't.
And they can't vote for you because you might then show up on Election Day and then it'll be revealed.
Think about how much was revealed by people showing up on Election Day and how they're committing these crimes, these election crimes that we didn't know.
It's going to be even harder for them to cheat next time because now we know what to look out for.
We know what the images should look like on the ballot.
I am for, at this point, pushing for Election Day, continuing to do that.
If you're really comfortable with the mail-in ballots and that's how you vote, you can do that.
But we want people to show up on Election Day.
And I fear if we go down this route where we're saying, let's just harvest ballots and do all of that, our legislatures will not feel the need, the pressure to do the right thing and change the laws so that we're protecting our sacred vote.
And the courts won't feel the need to.
They'll say, oh, it looks like the other side has kind of found a way around it.
We don't need to act urgently when I think they do need to act urgently.
So, Carrie, then what do you think will be different this 2024 side?
Because Katie Hobbs is not going to change anything.
You're right.
Katie Hobbs is not.
But our legislature is working on, you know, I would like to see one of our cases win.
We have a case that's in the Ninth Circuit to ban these machines.
I believe that our lawmakers are working to ban machines that have foreign-made components where our enemy actually makes the components.
This could pass and this could bring about some changes.
And that could be done even without Katie Hobbes' signature.
It could be done just through the Senate, through a resolution.
So there are a lot of things happening right now.
And I fear if we just kind of say, all right, we're going to go and cheat the way the Democrats do, then they won't feel the need to continue to work on this.
We're on the verge of having election reform.
I hear you.
I don't, I'm not calling for people to cheat.
I do think, though, it's an issue.
I mean, to have people vote in person early, I think should be expanded because, Kerry, won't they just sabotage us again?
I mean, that's there's just not enough voting centers, right?
And I hope the lawsuits are successful.
But my fear is that we're just going to go through this whole thing again where it's two-hour waiting line in Scottsdale, right?
Absent.
I understand.
And Charlie, I really believe we should have this conversation very seriously, maybe seven or eight months before the election.
We're two years out and we have some really serious cases that are moving in to the top court in Arizona.
And if there's an indication of we've thrown in the towel and we're just going to play by their same corrupt game, I hate what that message is going out.
And so I just think it's a conversation we need to push a little bit further down the road and see some of these cases.
We have many cases playing out across the country that are game changers.
And I'd like to see those cases be able to be heard without it getting in anybody's head, including the judicial branch, that we're moving on and we're just going to play that same corrupt game.
This is let's play Donald Trump Cut 24.
Just an interesting because he's introduced this into the zeitgeist.
Play cut 24.
And it's ballot harvesting.
We will become masters at ballot harvesting.
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We have no choice.
Beating the Democrats at their own game.
And we'll do it legally.
The agenda I've laid out today will end America's destruction.
I was there.
I don't think it was met with as big of applause as you would think.
I think there were a few people that were kind of like, do we have to go that route?
We just want honest elections.
And I will say the president laid out an agenda that is so good.
I'm so excited for his return in 24.
This country is going to see a turnaround like our wildest dreams could never imagine.
Kerry Lake, we are behind you.
It's a tragedy that you're not currently governor, and I hope some things start to change very quickly.
God bless you, Kerry.
I'm still in the fight.
Thank you, Charlie.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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God bless.
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