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Feb. 17, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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A North Korean Defector's Search for Freedom with Yeonmi Park
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Powerful Episode Impact 00:04:37
Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, one of the most powerful episodes in the history of the Charlie Kirk Show.
We've been doing this for nearly four years.
We have done well over 1,200 episodes.
And I can tell you this is right up there as far as depth and power and impact.
I encourage every single one of you to listen to this episode.
And you will be moved at some period of time.
I guarantee it.
And when you are moved, you need to text this episode to a friend who disagrees with your worldview.
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If more Americans hear this conversation, we will be in a much better position to win.
It is a conversation with Yeonmi Park.
She has a new book out called While Time Remains.
But her story is so unbelievably powerful.
She is only one of 209 North Korean defectors that have come to America in the last 80 years.
Only one of 209.
One of the most articulate, incredibly wise, and courageous.
I firmly believe it is the hand of the Lord that has put her in our country at this time for you to hear.
It should motivate you.
It should animate you.
Certainly did for me, and I've heard her talk before.
We talk about a lot of different angles when it comes to totalitarianism, including her time at Columbia University, and so much more.
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When I tell you that we are getting closer and closer to totalitarianism, I mean it, but don't take my word for it.
Our guest for the entire hour is someone who has lived in a totalitarian country, a legitimate totalitarian country, and was able to escape and is a defector.
Escaping Totalitarianism 00:07:48
Her story is chilling about how and why politics matters and why government matters, why we need to talk about morality and truth and goodness and beauty.
Our guest is Yanmi Park.
She is the author of a new book called While Time Remains.
She joined Dennis Prager for a full hour about a year and a half ago in one of the most powerful interviews that I have heard in quite some time.
And her story is remarkable.
Yanmi, welcome to the program.
Thank you, Charlie.
It's an honor to be on your show.
Well, thank you.
So tell our audience about your story.
You grew up in North Korea and walk us through what that was like and then how you were able to escape.
I was born in North Korea in 1993.
And when I was growing up there, I never even seen a map of the world.
On my way to school, I remember seeing dead bodies on the streets everywhere.
And one thing that I still cannot forget to this day is there's a teenage boy or like young man, I don't know, who was laying down there.
And when you are so malnourished, all your organs, like everything opens up in your body and you see his intestines comes out of him.
And you see flies and dogs are trying to eat him once he dies off.
And but still when I go to school, my school teacher was demanding me to sing this song called Nothing to Envy.
The song is all about how we have nothing to envy in this world because we are living in a socialist paradise.
And of course, when I go to school, I was taught to believe that dictators, Kim Myersong, and Kim Jong-year, they were gods.
They had the power to do miracles.
They could do with my mind.
And therefore, there's always people who were afraid even to think.
And just when we wake up, then just our neighbors are gone.
And we don't know, like maybe space has something wrong or maybe they realize something wrong.
And so I was growing up there not knowing the world like this ever existed.
So you were taught that your leaders were close to gods before you left North Korea.
Did you ever have any doubt of the propaganda they were telling us?
Did you ever have anything like, this doesn't sound right?
I think that's why it's so scary right now, seeing the death of critical thinking.
In North Korea, they don't teach us what critical thinking is or asking us to using the inner logic part in our brain.
I mean, in some sense, it's helpful if you don't use that part because then you are going to be okay.
The first thing my mom told me as a young girl was, don't even whisper because the birds and mice could hear me.
She said my tongue was the most dangerous weapon that I had in my body because if I said one wrong thing, it was going to kill up to three, two generations of my family's lives.
So I never doubted.
And of course, we don't have even internet.
We don't have free press.
People have no freedom of speech or movement.
I had no clue that they were not gods.
It's a real thing that for Northern people believe that they don't even go to bathroom.
It's not a joke for Northern people.
There is a quote in 1984 by George Orwell, which is the only way to keep a secret from the government is to first keep the secret from yourself, which is very similar to what you're saying, which is don't even whisper because the birds and the mice might hear you.
And so your story gets to be just super powerful of what you had to do to escape.
Walk us through those details.
It's an extraordinary story of courage and resilience.
Walk us through it.
Yeah, so when I was, by the time I was 13 years old, we couldn't really find any more food.
The reason why we're starving is the regime decided to starve 90% of the population who are living outside of capital Pyongyang.
And Kim Jong-hye said that when millions of North Koreans were dying, when I was totally in the 90s, this is one of the horrible famines that happened in the modern history.
He said, it's easy to do socialism.
It's easy to control people when there are less of them.
So he would let us die on purpose.
So when I was by the 13th, we couldn't find any more food.
And the only way for us to survive was escaping.
And at night time, I was able to see lights coming from China.
And that's when we thought maybe if we go where the lights were, we could find something to eat.
And that's how I risked my life for a bowl of rice at 13.
So you were then on the border of North Korea and China.
Is that correct?
And it was, was there a river separating it or?
Yes.
I was living in the northern part of North Korea, a town called Heishan, and we had a border with China and there was a Yalu River between us that was flowing.
And so that's why we were able to see the electricity lights coming from China at nighttime.
So before I continue, I just have some other very basic questions about North Korea.
Do people own things in North Korea?
Is there private property?
No, that's the promise of communism.
When the regime came, Kim Myers-ong came to power in the 50s, he promised North Korean people, I'm going to get rid of inequality.
I'm going to feed you three times with the rice and misdu.
If I give that, could you give us the private property, freedom of speech, all your rights?
And for that little promise, North Korean people gave everything to this one guy, the Communist Party.
And then when they took everything from us, including property, he would not give us anything back.
And we became forever enslaved to this one man.
So growing up in North Korea and now looking back, do you think most North Korean citizens are happy?
It's not even a concept.
They don't tell us what that is.
There is no word of oppression in North Korea.
There's no word for love.
Kim Jong-un banned Mother's Day because he was paranoid that if we are going to love our mothers, we're not going to love him as much.
We don't have a word stress because how can you be stressed living in a socialist paradise?
It's like 1984 by George Ore.
There's a newspaper, right?
They control what you say, what you can think by controlling the language.
And I see it's happening in America, how they obsess what word we can use, what word we cannot.
But North Korea did a long time ago, eliminating those words, those concepts from people.
So we don't question about those things.
That's an extraordinary statement.
There is no word for love.
And if I understood you correctly, they got rid of Mother's Day because you can't have a relationship with your parent.
Remember, we talk about a lot on our program, the one commandment that ties to your nation of the Ten Commandments, honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.
Totalitarians always try to break the bond between a child and a parent, and you lived through that.
And so then I must ask: growing up in this totalitarian country, this tyrannical country, what then motivated you to put your life at risk to go across the river and essentially smuggle yourself into a foreign country?
It just starvation.
I think hunger means death to North Koreans.
If you don't eat, you die.
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And I thought, if I don't do that, I'm going to die.
And for a fact, if I didn't escape, I would be dead long ago by starvation at 13.
So there was no idea of me understanding what freedom was, or there's a world out there that, like, you know, like America existed.
I just thought, okay, let me go find some food to eat.
And that simple desire to survive got me to cross the frozen river into China.
For everyone listening, I've said this for quite some time.
It's honored to have you on the program, by the way.
Yanmi Park has one of the most illuminating and powerful stories.
Wait till you hear what she has to say about our own country, because we'll get there.
Because you would think that all of a sudden she would be around like, wow, everyone loves freedom here.
No, no, she knows what it takes to make a country go totalitarian.
And she has more than a warning.
She has a message for all of us.
But her book that I encourage all of you to get right now, While Time Remains, Ford by Jordan Peterson, we have so much to learn and we are so blessed to be able to have this story.
And there are tens of millions of people right now in an open-air concentration camp in a country called North Korea.
But I have to be told by pastors that politics doesn't matter, government doesn't matter.
Meanwhile, tens of millions of people starve to death.
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Yanmi, let me ask you, when you were being raised in North Korea, what were you propagandized to believe about America?
In some sense, it's exactly what Karen Left saying about America, that America is corrupt, poisonous, the dirty capitalist society where children cannot even study at school.
But then also they're saying that Americans are cold-blooded reptiles that eat North Korean children, rape our women, and torture us.
So they were saying how lucky we were having our dear leader defending us from these monsters.
But the thing is, in North Korea, the child, we don't have internet.
There's no way we can just Google and look up American.
Only thing we could see was a school poster showing these like monsters, barbaric people were pulling our teeth out.
And that's what I heard about America.
I did not know this country was this beautiful free country.
We will talk more about that in a second.
So let's then go through the story.
You then crossed the river into China, and then what?
Were you smuggled?
Walk us through the details.
There was a lady who were willing to help me and my mother to cross the river.
And turns out she was a human trafficker.
So she sold us to a human trafficker in China.
So when my mother and I got to China, it was 2007, the first thing I was saying was my mother being raped.
And then they were selling, they sold us as livestocks.
She was sold for $65.
They sold me just above $20 because I was a virgin and a child.
And right now, even to this moment, there are 300,000 North Korean young girls and women are being sold for the organ harvesting and being sold as sex slaves in China right now.
So you were then basically a sex slave.
And then what?
So just long my longest two years of my life living this sex slave life.
One day, miraculously, I met a Christian missionary coming from South Korea.
They were risking their lives to rescue North Korean women to freedom.
And these missionaries told me that if I walk across frozen Gobi Desert into Mongolia, I might be able to go to South Korea from there.
So I joined the mission group.
I studied the Bible for two months.
And once we thought we were ready, we went to the northern China and we started walking across the frozen Gobi Desert into Mongolia.
So, but as you were walking across the Gobi Desert, then what happened?
Luckily, it was like minus 40 degrees in 2009 when I was 15 years old.
I somehow didn't die from that cold.
I did not get killed by the border guards.
And they were eventually assisted us to go to fly to South Korea as refugees.
So that's how I became free after that two years of China.
So, but then the story gets very interesting.
Explain to us the integration process that you had to go through in South Korea.
Explain that to us.
So, yeah, I think a lot of people think, okay, wow, that's got to be a great story that, you know, now you're in a good country that is South Korea.
Actually, I remember like being free for the first time.
That was a very painful experience.
And at some point, I was thinking, if the regime doesn't care me and give me enough at least some potato to eat, I would go back to North Korea.
Say that part again.
No, just say that one more time.
I was thinking if the regime would not execute me for defecting and then give me enough at least frozen potato to eat for the rest of my life, I would rather go back to North Korea than being in free South Korea.
I mean, that's incredibly powerful.
And it's true.
I mean, again, in the Bible, when God's chosen people were freed from slavery in Egypt, it just took a couple chapters before they told God, bring us back to Egypt, because at least we ate meat and we knew what we were doing all day long.
And so once you went to South Korea, though, it wasn't like they just said, hey, welcome to Seoul.
Didn't you have to go through a lot of interviews and almost pseudo-interrogations?
Yeah, that's as soon as we arrived there.
The first place they take us to is actually a hospital.
Because North Koreans, even though we have supposedly free health care, there is literally nothing worse.
So in the hospital, they use one needle to inject every patient.
When they do operate, people don't have anesthesia.
And most of people die from infection and fever and malnutrition, not from actual disease in North Korea.
So they took us to hospital and do the full body check and make sure that we do not bring any new disease to the country.
After that is clear, they put us in isolation of two months.
You got to check out this book, While Time Remains, Yonmi Park.
You hear about totalitarianism.
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Misunderstanding Freedom Today 00:16:09
Yami, let me ask you, so you were put in isolation in South Korea during the reintegration process.
Explain.
So during this process, some of us even going under through the lie detectors.
The North Korean regime sent some spies among the defectors and disguised them.
So they have to verify our stories thoroughly.
They had to make sure that we are actually North Koreans or not.
And after two months of the interrogation, once we get verified that we are not spies, then we sent to three months of kind of a education center where they teach us that, you know, first of all, Americans are not bastards, that they live in a flourishing democracy.
And they tell us, there is for the first time I heard about Kim Jong-yeo was a fact dictator.
And I couldn't believe it.
Like I, all my life, I believed that somehow he was starving just like us and working tirelessly for protecting our people.
And then in South Sky, they were telling me that, no, he's a bad dictator.
So in that, of course, that three-month period, I was learning about how to even take a bus.
You know, I was almost different, coming from a different planet, time traveling and learning about modern technology, learning about what internet is for the first time.
When you were going through all this process, one of the most powerful things I heard you mention to Dennis Prager that I remembered, I want you to explain it, is you, it took a lot of effort to think.
What do you, that's, that's just such, that's something we don't, I mean, consider.
What do you mean it took effort for you to think once you got out of North Korea?
Yeah, I think this is where people don't understand how deep the tyranny can get.
There are two types of dictatorships.
One was physical dictatorship.
Of course, they put you in a jail or in a country surround the border.
You have no freedom to move or you don't have a freedom to choose your clothes or haircut.
That's a physical dictatorship.
What Nazi Germany or even North Korean regime did is something called dictatorship of the mind.
This is the real hard type begins.
They control what you think.
They never teach you how to think for yourself.
And somehow in America, people think that when we are born as a kid, we are going to know what injustice is, what justice is, what democracy is, what human rights is.
These are all conventions of the enlightenment.
We invented these amazing ideas and we need to teach the children to understand what these are.
But North Korean children are not taught of these topics.
Therefore, thinking for yourself is never a thing.
And I remember in South Korea, I was thinking for myself, like, even what I'm going to wear, right?
What I'm going to wear, I mean, what I'm going to like do in my life.
Then I was so exhausted.
Like, oh my God, I need to take a break after thinking for 30 minutes.
So you would have to physically rest because you had to just think, what am I going to eat?
What am I going to do?
You had to rest from thinking.
Yeah, I mean, literally, I think every day I was like, okay, I'm going to think just two minutes today.
And then I take like a few hours break.
Okay, this time I think for more than five minutes.
That's how gradually increased of me.
And it took many years for me to come to be comfortable with thinking for myself.
Initially, it was so difficult that I remember I was just exhausted from thinking.
So then, to kind of speed up the story, and there's so many elements.
I'd love to have you in person in the studio and examine all this.
But for a lot of our audience, this is the first time they're hearing this.
You come to America and you believe, hey, home of the free and the brave.
If I remember correctly, you went to Columbia.
Is that right?
Columbia University.
And tell our now American audience what you, the defector from North Korea, were being taught.
It was shocking beyond anything that I could ever imagine.
The professors were saying exact same things that my North Korean teachers said in the classroom.
I was at some point thinking, did I transfer back to North Korean classroom?
In American classroom, they were saying that all the problems in the world we have is because of the greedy capitalism and white men.
And I was thinking, without capitalism, I mean, these kids are in there like a few hundred bucks yoga pants and then they're green just diktox.
Their problems are having too much food.
Without capitalism, they would not have any of those things they were having.
And they've been dead long, dead, long time ago from starvation.
And these professors were teaching these kids somehow that the worst thing in the world that can happen is inequality.
Worst thing that can ever happen in life is a poverty.
Inequality means there's a room to mobilize, to room to go further than you are.
That's exactly right.
And they are somehow teaching us to believe that inequality is a problem and therefore we need to abolish it, billionaires.
It's almost like what's yours is mine.
It's one of chapters in my book.
But teaching the entire mind, it's okay to steal from other people because they are rich, because they worked hard.
They had three jobs.
Like you look at Elon Musk, they innovate, they have three jobs and working tirelessly.
And somehow these people who don't do anything have a right to steal from those people.
The subtitle of your book is a North Korean defector's search for freedom in America.
How did you possibly process Americans telling you that Marxism is the answer?
How do you deal with that?
This is where, I mean, they say the only solution is a common revolution to all the problems that we have in America right now.
And I was like, for the last two years, I was raising my son in Chicago and downtown, where governments have such a control that the governments are forcing my son to wear a mask up to here, eight hours a day in daycare.
And street clubs are open, the clubs are open, and dog parks are open, but they close down the children's playground.
So children have less rights than adults and these dogs.
They have freedom to go get drunk and do whatever they want to do.
And dogs run around, but not my child, because he's a human being, have no right to go to play outdoor in the sunshine in summer in the playground.
And I think that's when I really understood.
It's not a joke.
It is tyranny people in this country.
And I have nothing to protect my son from this.
And that's when I really determined to write this book to wake up America that we do not have that much time left on us to fight this bat.
I mean, that's so powerful.
Can you just list a couple of specific examples of what you see happening in America where you say this is going to become North Korea very quickly?
One is that dividing people based on collective guilt.
It's a North Korean ideology.
When I spoke out against the regime, the regime went away to punish three generations of my family.
And in America, my son, who is half white and half Asian, he's so screwed because now people are saying he's privileged.
He's guilty.
We are punishing people for something not they individuals did, but collectively some of their ancestors did.
In this system, there's no redemption.
There's no change because how do you change your ancestor?
How do you change the history?
That's an impossible task.
So in America now, we are divided based on who's oppressed and who's oppressed, based on what our ancestors did.
And not only that, now they are saying that hate speech is a violence, that we need to shut down the free speech.
And that's how North Korea did, that we cannot give a platform to bigots and capitalists and intelligentia to speak.
We got rid of free speech.
And in America, they are doing the exact same thing and following the same path.
And lastly, what I'm afraid of is people don't realize how unusual this country is.
Coming from North Korea, I cannot imagine the world without America, what this country stands for.
This country stands for what's possible when individuals are left alone from the government tyranny, what we can achieve.
Like New York City is a testament to that.
But they are going after exactly that.
And I think it's just, I don't know, I'm just like praying every day, like this cannot be real.
I mean, these people have everything they need.
Their problem is not having a problem.
And they're creating injustice out of thin air, literally.
Oh, that is so perfect.
Say that again.
Their problem is not having a problem.
Yeah, it's a problem.
I never understood that not having a problem with the actual problem.
That is so sad.
That is poetically put.
Please continue.
Their injustice, their oppression is somehow that we cannot follow their non-grammatical, ever-growing pronouns.
And my classrooms at Columbia in tears and telling me that I'm a bigot because I cannot use they in my sentences perfectly, them being a gender like fluid thing, something every second they can be anything they want.
And for them, this is the end of the world.
That's the oppression they are facing.
And therefore, they want to destroy this matter, this country, in the name of some madness.
I hope you all understood that that is a student, an American student at Columbia University, who is calling a young lady who was raised in North Korea, had to flee because of starvation, sold into a sex slave to watch her mother be raped to barely escape in negative 40 degrees in the Gobi Desert to South Korea, calling her a bigot because she doesn't use the pronouns that she prefers.
Let me ask you just very briefly, how much, I mean, do you, this is an urgent time for America?
Would you agree?
Do you think that what needs to be done?
I think this is a time for Americans to realize this is our time to found, like become founding fathers, find our country back, fight for the country that what made us unique, what made us great.
Our founding fathers bled their blood, they gave their life for the liberty that we have today.
And I think this is our time.
Our time of speaking up right now is losing our jobs, getting demonetized and censored and calling bigots.
But that is nothing to compare what our founding fathers did or North Korean people do to become free.
So therefore, we need to realize freedom is truly not free.
And we need to go speak up and fight back with this tyranny that is rising in the American government, all you mainstream media everywhere that we see.
The country is falling apart.
And I'm being lectured by kids that their greatest concern is that their Uber Eats is four minutes late, that Marxism is the answer.
Maybe you should check your privilege and listen to someone who has lived through a lot about what's coming next.
The book is While Time Remains.
Boy, is that a powerful title?
A North Korean Defector's Search for Freedom in America by Yanmi Park.
Yanmi, let me ask you, when you were living in North Korea, was God even a concept that was understood or taught?
You get executed if you ever own a Bible or read the Bible meet a missionary.
God, any other religion is not allowed.
The first thing that Kim Iron did when he to power was killing Christians and killed God in North Korea.
You say you get executed if you say you believe in God?
Or even just read the Bible once or read one word in the Bible or own the Bible.
It's not just saying I believe in God.
Just owning a Bible is execution along with three generations of your family.
So do you personally, I have no idea how you'll answer, do you, have you now entertained a belief in God now that you live in the West?
Do you think you are Christian?
Tell me about that.
I was, as I said, I was rescued by Christians in China when I was in the darkest place in the world.
These missionaries, they risked their life to rescue us, to go to South Korea.
And since then, I was on and off and I wasn't even sure, but I had my son five years ago.
And in that moment, I mean, how could you not believe in God?
It's a life's true miracle.
There's no way I made a child.
It was from God.
And I became a believer since that moment.
Secular people don't go to the Gobi Desert in negative 50 degrees to rescue sex slaves.
Religious people do.
So let me ask you, Yanmi, now that you see America becoming more secular and less religious, do you think that makes it more likely for totalitarianism to take hold?
Absolutely.
Think there is a really correlation between uh, god and communism, because communists when they first, when they go for religion, there's a reason, because they are replacing god with themselves, they replacing the communist party with the ideology, the god's words.
So now in America, more people becoming atheists.
I mean it makes sense, because they do not understand the meaning of freedom.
They don't understand that freedom without virtue it means anarchy and we lost virtue.
And, of course, people on the subway in New York City shooting themselves as a heroin and harassing people and they say that's freedom, that's not freedom, that's anarchy and we've missed.
Now we really misunderstand the meaning of freedom.
People don't understand that freedom comes with responsibility and that also is lost.
So we are witnessing this complete chaos that people lost meaning, not understanding what freedom is anymore.
They don't even understand what's how we need to live a meaningful life in life like it just looks like completely lost darkness that i'm seeing in America that yeah, how do we win?
We need to pray.
I think it's as a Christian, I think you know I pray the things.
That was not possible.
There are only 209 nursing defectors made it to America for the last 80 years.
There's a no, nothing in me, as you will see me in person.
I'm the tiniest girl you can see and it's not.
I fought harder.
Somehow there's a miracle that happened and god brought me to this promised land.
And like that, I think, if we believe in god and if we believe in the founding fathers and what they wrote in the constitution, as long as we defend those principles, we can bring the glory of America, glorious America, back to this country, back to this land.
What gives you hope?
That you see in America right now people, individuals like you, individuals that I meet every day and think my stomach.
I'm hopeful and I think the key is not losing faith in humanity.
Hope In Humanity 00:01:30
And what shocks me about American left is their anti-human sentiment.
That's exactly like at Columbia, the professor saying that humans are disease.
We make the, our mother earth sick and this is what North Regime did.
They said if when we are dying from starvation, it's easy to do socialism, if there are less people, it's easy to control, if there's less people.
They don't believe that humans are made in the image of god, that we have the rights that give them from god, that nobody can take away from us, and the left is somehow spreading this idea that they pregnant women.
The babies are not real babies and somehow humans are toxic, that we need to get rid of a lot of us, and this is scary.
But despite that, we need to recognize that humans are gift and we need to protect life at all cost.
That's exactly right.
What is a human being is the most important question.
Genesis 126 and 127, young me.
We'll have you back again on soon.
Uh, check out the book.
While time remains and the hour is complete, it's better to always leave the audience wanting more than wanting less.
I definitely have more questions and we'll have you back on.
Okay, god bless you and keep fighting.
America, wake up.
We're about to become North Korea.
Don't take my word for it.
See you tomorrow.
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