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| Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Donald Trump Jr. and Steve Moore join us for the news of the day and so much more. | |
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| Joining us now is a good friend of mine and great American patriot with an incredibly successful new show on Rumble. | |
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| Donald Trump Jr. | |
| Don, welcome to the program. | |
| Good to be with you, Charlie. | |
| How's things? | |
| Things are good. | |
| So, Don, I hope you could clear something up for me. | |
| There's this NBC news piece because I got to learn about my relationship with you and DJT via NBC News. | |
| NBC News is telling me publicly that somehow my relationship with you and Trump world is not good. | |
| Don, maybe you can walk me through this because NBC obviously knows us better than we know ourselves. | |
| Well, obviously, I mean, I've read this so many times, you know, all the leaks that end up being nonsense. | |
| I think we've all been a fly on the wall in those rooms, and then you see the reporting, and when none of it lines up, we shouldn't be surprised anymore. | |
| But yes, I was unaware that there was any rift between you and I, Charlie, whatsoever. | |
| Yeah, it's complete nonsense. | |
| And leave it to NBC News to try to divide us as we head into 2024. | |
| Despite me being repeatedly clear, I'm back in Trump, and we're going to win the White House back. | |
| Okay, Don, I want to get your thoughts on something. | |
| You know, you've had a contrarian opinion, and I totally agree with it, on Ukraine. | |
| It seems like the consensus in the Republican Party is to get us closer and closer to a war in Ukraine. | |
| How should we think about Ukraine and how should MAGA think about the war in Ukraine? | |
| Well, listen, I mean, Russia's clearly an aggressor, but they're also a nuclear power. | |
| You have two incredibly corrupt nations, and I think you have basically a large-scale money laundering operation going on there right now. | |
| We've sent $130 billion to be in a proxy war with a despot who's, you know, been embarrassed on a world stage, and that's Putin, in one of the great underperformances in the history of military actions. | |
| That can lead nowhere good. | |
| But as long as the military-industrial complex is getting rich, as long as we're creating an oligarch class in Ukraine with all the money and missiles and weapons and all the things that they have no systems to track, everyone at the top is getting rich. | |
| People are dying needlessly. | |
| I mean, until we turn off the endless blank check, I don't think there's any incentive for anyone to ever come to the table. | |
| And, you know, again, more people are going to die. | |
| And we're going to create an oligarch class in Ukraine that's going to be rich off of your taxpayer dollars that we can't account for. | |
| It's absolute madness, and we got to stop the wars. | |
| It's interesting that the guy that was supposed to start World War III, Donald Trump, was the only guy advocating for peace for the last six years and is the only guy advocating to get people to the table right now. | |
| It just shows you how beholden the rest of the political class, even in the Republican Party, are to the war machine or to their donors who are getting rich off of the war machine. | |
| It's disgusting. | |
| And Andy Biggs estimates we've sent over $200 billion. | |
| And of course, we can't get $2 billion to secure our southern border to stop the flow of drugs and guns and illegals into our country. | |
| And so, Don, I want to ask, though, because this is now shaping up to be a big issue in the 2024 campaign. | |
| You know, I believe that President Trump is going to decisively be able to win the nomination, but there very well might be some kind of annoying candidates that you're going to have to navigate through. | |
| And two of the other declared candidates, Tim Scott and Nikki Haley, and Nikki Haley in particular, they think that we should lean in on what's going on in Ukraine. | |
| Nikki Haley has been outspoken about this. | |
| Don, first, any initial thoughts on Tim Scott and Nikki Haley running for the presidency, and then also their foreign policy views contrasted with the success of Donald Trump. | |
| Yeah, no, listen, it's more of a neocon mindset, certainly with Nikki Haley, but Tim Scott largely as well. | |
| I mean, it's basically everything that Republicans revolted against in 2016. | |
| But, you know, because they see the donor class wanting a seat at the table again, they see the military-industrial complex ramping up. | |
| You know, that's their on-ramp for donations to fund this stuff. | |
| That neocon mentality, the endless wars that everyone in America, frankly, doesn't want to be in anymore. | |
| Even if you have a lot of people pro-Ukraine right now, the appetite of the American public is to not be in these endless wars. | |
| Their foreign policy is one of never-ending war. | |
| Their friends have done very well with those policies. | |
| So I think it's really out of touch. | |
| It's almost hard to believe that you'd have people running on these platforms, you know, nine months out after getting out of Afghanistan. | |
| But, you know, that's the nature of the swamp. | |
| They are not in touch with the people. | |
| They have no understanding of what the people want. | |
| They understand what their DC think tanks tell them to do. | |
| They understand what those people in those Washington bubbles want. | |
| And that doesn't align or jive at all with where the American people are, in my opinion. | |
| No, I agree. | |
| And in some ways, it actually, I think, helps Trump to have some more of these voices that have completely opposite views on the core issues, especially when it comes to neoliberalism of open borders and trade and, of course, foreign policy. | |
| I think that this upcoming Republican primary is going to have a lot on foreign policy. | |
| And honestly, President Trump did not just start any new wars. | |
| He was able to defeat ISIS while doing it, holding Iran in check, all the while of negotiating peace in the Middle East with Israel and the United Arab Emirates. | |
| And it was absolutely incredible. | |
| So, Don, I want to get your thoughts on the recent inflation report. | |
| Today, it came out that we have red-hot inflation. | |
| The exact numbers here, I'll say in just a second. | |
| But, Don, we've been told that it's just transitory. | |
| Your thoughts on this recent inflation report. | |
| Well, it's been transitory now for a year and a half, and it's going to continue to go up. | |
| They're not doing anything to stop it. | |
| All of the policies that they are espousing and implementing are only going to add to it. | |
| And if you asked any honest economist, not someone who's looking for favoritism on TV from MSDNC and CNN, they would tell you that. | |
| I mean, it's so obvious that all of these policies are designed to literally going to make it worse. | |
| Every American is getting a 10% tax cut. | |
| If you're talking about a real basket of goods, not the one that they manipulate, not the one where they change the definition to suit their current, again, DNC talking point agenda. | |
| The American people are getting crushed. | |
| These are the things that Donald Trump fought against. | |
| You saw it in the State of the Union. | |
| We're bringing it back down. | |
| It's like it was 1.4% when Joe Biden took over. | |
| You're now probably pushing in terms of real numbers. | |
| Again, they massage the statistics. | |
| They change the way they do it. | |
| They don't include energy pricing in the basket of goods. | |
| Yet people have to get their shipping stuff has to happen. | |
| It's such a manipulated statistic, just like when they talk about job numbers. | |
| When someone's no longer looking for a job because they can't find anything, they're out of the workforce. | |
| And therefore, we can make the numbers look good because they've been trying for too long to get work. | |
| It doesn't make any sense. | |
| They're lying to the American people. | |
| And the American people have taken a double-digit effective pay cut in my mind. | |
| When you couple that, Charlie, with the rising interest rates, I just had this happen to me myself. | |
| A interest-only mortgage that I had readjusted after a five or seven year arm. | |
| And it went up a couple points. | |
| It's significant. | |
| It was thousands of dollars a month. | |
| You add that to the American public who are getting crushed on the inflation side when their mortgages reset because in the last few years they bought homes at all-time low interest rates. | |
| You're going to see a disaster. | |
| It's like 2008, but the banks are better prepared to handle it for themselves, but the consumer themselves are going to get crushed. | |
| And those are the people we've always been fighting for. | |
| The blue-collar, hard-working Americans. | |
| They're going to get crushed and they're going to hit from both ends. | |
| And it's going to get very ugly very quickly. | |
| I agree. | |
| Don, 20 seconds. | |
| Tell our audience about your show on Rumble. | |
| I love watching it. | |
| And I know Rumble is really exploding. | |
| Tell our audience about it. | |
| Well, listen, Rumble is a free speech platform. | |
| And that's why I got on the platform. | |
| I was one of the early guys on there doing short form stuff. | |
| And they asked if I would do a long-term type of news things. | |
| I will have a different take than the talking points, both right and left-wing talking points. | |
| I will take things further. | |
| I'll say what needs to be said and have a lot of fun in the process. | |
| So the show's really taken off. | |
| The amount of views we're getting there were on Monday and Thursday at 6 p.m. live. | |
| But you can go on Rumble, search me there, check it out, see for yourself. | |
| We're having a lot of fun. | |
| I had Kash Patel on last night, who was the former deputy director of national intelligence. | |
| Go see it. | |
| He has the information of all the stuff they're not telling you about the crazy balloons and everything going on in Russia and what's a distraction, what's not a distraction, and more importantly, how we can hold the Republicans who now control the House to task to get the things they promised us done. | |
| It's great stuff. | |
| I've just had a lot of fun with it. | |
| Hopefully it explodes because I think people need to hear and take that's again not the conservative or sort of mainstream media talking points, but taking it to that next level where a lot of people are just not willing to do it because they're worried about the consequences. | |
| So having a lot of fun with it, and I think people will enjoy it. | |
| You're doing really, really great with everyone. | |
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| Thanks so much, Don. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Congratulations. | |
| Thanks a lot, Charlie. | |
| Have a great day. | |
| Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here. | |
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Reignite Populist Nationalist Energy
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| Nikki Haley and Tim Scott are now officially running for the presidency. | |
| I'd love your thoughts on this, and you can email me freedom at charliekirk.com. | |
| I think this helps Donald Trump. | |
| I think that the more voices that especially articulate neoliberalism certainly helps Donald Trump. | |
| And I do not have any personal strife or bone to pick with Tim Scott or Nikki Haley at all. | |
| Other people might have had unfavorable personal experiences with either of them. | |
| But as someone who's supporting Donald Trump in 2024, I could tell you that Donald Trump benefits from being able to be anti-establishment former president. | |
| To be able to be an anti-establishment former president is a very interesting, let's say, messaging opportunity. | |
| Now, remember, presidents have served non-consecutive terms before. | |
| Grover Cleveland most famously did that. | |
| Teddy Roosevelt tried to run for another term with the Bull Neose Party and actually ended up dividing the Republican Party in the 1912 election after William Howard Taft served from 1908 to 1912, which basically paved the way for an incredibly dangerous progressive president, Woodrow Wilson, former president of Princeton University, then governor of New Jersey, to become president with just a plurality, not a majority of votes. | |
| Obviously, the Electoral College matters. | |
| That doesn't, but it's interesting because Woodrow Wilson was a very, very radical president. | |
| So Nikki Haley is running, and Tim Scott is now running, and Mike Pompeo is likely going to run. | |
| Do you see some commonality there? | |
| And then Mike Pence is probably going to run. | |
| Look, there is a significant funding base in the Republican donor community that feels as if neoliberalism and aggressive foreign policy. | |
| This is strictly from a policy perspective. | |
| Trust me, a lot of these donors and funders, many of whom I get along great with and have been very generous to Turning Point USA, they also have significant personality complaints towards Donald Trump and other complaints. | |
| But there's also a philosophical difference where they feel as if neoliberalism is dying and needs to be reinvigorated. | |
| Remember, neoliberalism, if you ever want to explain it to your friends and sound very smart, it's three things. | |
| It is a loose immigration policy, it is loose trade policy, but aggressive foreign policy. | |
| The best way to describe neoliberalism is invade the world, invite the world, and import stuff the world makes and you do not make. | |
| It is the opening of the borders. | |
| It is the relaxing of sovereignty. | |
| Donald Trump, at his best, stands against neoliberalism and those three issues. | |
| Now, almost everybody running for the presidency is going to talk a good game on pro-life, on the Second Amendment. | |
| They're going to talk a good game on the trans thing. | |
| So you're going to see very little, very few differences there. | |
| The broad and distinct differences that you are going to see in the Republican 2024 primary are going to be between are going to be foreign policy, trade policy, and immigration policy. | |
| Now, everybody running for the presidency is going to say, well, look, we need to get rid of illegal immigration, but we need to bolster legal immigration. | |
| And that is the opportunity to be able to see if somebody is a true America first conservative or a neoliberal. | |
| I personally think we should retire the phrase neoconservative and just call them neoliberals. | |
| Now, just so that we're clear, there was a time where neoliberalism probably made sense. | |
| When America was the world reserve currency and we were balancing our budget in the 1990s, you could make a case for neoliberalism. | |
| Now, of course, we didn't just make a case for it. | |
| We didn't just dip our toe into it. | |
| We went so full force and destroyed our American manufacturing base. | |
| We allowed so many people into our country. | |
| I think we allowed like 1.3 million people legally into our country in the mid-90s. | |
| We can get the exact numbers. | |
| And so instead of crafting policy that was actually serving our best interest and using some neoliberal elements, we just went all in and it went nuts. | |
| I actually think it's 1.8 million. | |
| If I remember the chart correctly, there was a massive spike in green card distributions in the 90s at some point. | |
| I'll look it up in the break or our team will. | |
| But now, I mean, this is one of the reasons why populist nationalism, citizen-centered government is on the rise and neoliberalism needs to be basically cast aside, is we are now suffering the damage of the excesses of neoliberalism. | |
| From trade policy to immigration policy to these foreign wars. | |
| And the more money we send to Ukraine, the more the southern border remains wide open, and the harder it is for our economy to get back to a position of strength. | |
| All of that philosophically and politically lays the foundation favorably for Donald Trump. | |
| Okay, I want to play Nikki Haley's announcement for the presidency. | |
| I think it's cut 44. | |
| Is that right? | |
| Yeah, play cut 44, please. | |
| We must turn in that direction again. | |
| Republicans have lost the popular vote in seven out of the last eight presidential elections. | |
| That has to change. | |
| Joe Biden's record is abysmal, but that shouldn't come as a surprise. | |
| The Washington establishment has failed us over and over and over again. | |
| It's time for a new generation of leadership to rediscover fiscal responsibility, secure our border, and strengthen our country, our pride, and our purpose. | |
| Okay, I'd actually like to listen to the whole video so if you guys can get the second part of this. | |
| So let me just kind of give some feedback. | |
| We don't elect presidents based on the popular vote. | |
| That is a weak argument. | |
| I'm not really sure what she's getting at there, but I don't think that's strong at all. | |
| The second is, you know, she says fiscal responsibility. | |
| That's fine. | |
| That's not exactly an animating issue of voters. | |
| However, it's becoming one because of debt and deficit spending. | |
| More broadly and more generally, though, I do want to, you know, mention when it comes to Nikki Haley running for the presidency some insight. | |
| So I asked the audience, I asked you guys, what do you think? | |
| And very, very negative on Nikki Haley. | |
| So I was, I will say, though, and I made this prediction a couple weeks ago, do not underestimate her. | |
| She did have a good record generally as governor of South Carolina, certainly did some things that irritated me and irritated many of you. | |
| She's definitely going to try to carve out more of that establishment lane, but she's immensely popular with the donors of the Republican Party. | |
| And I don't say donors in a negative way. | |
| And I'm just saying that it's a fact. | |
| I was at a fundraiser last week. | |
| It was barnstorming the country trying to raise money for Turning Point Action, Turning Point USA. | |
| And we had a private dinner with about 10 big donors that give significantly to Republican causes. | |
| They give over $250,000 a year each. | |
| So these are some big, very accomplished business people. | |
| And I was curious, hey, what are you guys thinking about 2024? | |
| They know my position, obviously. | |
| And it was DeSantis and Nikki Haley were the top two choices. | |
| And Nikki Haley was one where they were asking me, why is it that Nikki Haley is not as popular as we think she should be? | |
| Like, what are we missing? | |
| And I did my best to explain that there is a massive base disconnect between Nikki Haley and Republican-based voters and conservative-based voters. | |
| But Nikki Haley, what I gleaned from that, and it reinforces my theory that I articulated a couple weeks ago, which is Nikki Haley is going to raise a bunch of money. | |
| And so is Tim Scott. | |
| They're going to raise a ton of money. | |
| And whether or not that will translate into votes, we will see. | |
| However, the more money they raise, in some ways, it actually does help Donald Trump because Donald Trump's superpower in the Republican 2024 primary is going to be Trump versus the world, is that they tried to spy on me, they tried to indict me, they tried to take me out, and Peter Strzzk and Andy McCabe and James Comey and all this. | |
| And we need to reignite that kind of populist nationalist energy. | |
| That actually makes Trump stronger. | |
| Play cut 45. | |
| Some people look at America and see vulnerability. | |
| The socialist left sees an opportunity to rewrite history. | |
| China and Russia are on the march. | |
| They all think we can be bullied, kicked around. | |
| You should know this about me. | |
| I don't put up with bullies. | |
| And when you kick back, it hurts them more if you're wearing heels. | |
| I'm Nikki Haley, and I'm running for president. | |
| Okay, I think I heard her say that Russia is on the march. | |
| Is that right? | |
| I just want to make sure I heard that correctly. | |
| Okay, that right there is your first contrast point that I said. | |
| Nikki Haley is basically saying that we need to punch back to Russia. | |
| That's a bad idea. | |
| Russia and China are on the march. | |
| The CCP is not just a bigger threat. | |
| They are the threat. | |
| The Russian Federation does not pose an immediate or long-term threat to American national security or sovereignty. | |
| We should be partners with the Russian Federation. | |
| Yes, I am aware that they are a very flawed regime. | |
| I am no fan of Vladimir Putin. | |
| I don't want my grandkids speaking Mandarin. | |
| You cannot win a global conflict or a world war without Russia being neutral or on your side. | |
| You can disagree at that. | |
| You can hope it to be wrong. | |
| But you're entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts. | |
| There is not a rational reason why in the last 30 years since the fall of the wall, why we should have escalating antagonistic relations with Russia. | |
| Are their behaviors perfect? | |
| Far from it. | |
| But they could be a partner in normalizing global relations and restricting the rise of the true menace, the Chinese Communist Party. | |
| That definitely opens an opportunity for Donald Trump to contrast that. | |
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| With the flip of a switch, the Chinese Communist Party could turn off our power grids, remotely drive your car off your road, or turn off your pacemaker. | |
| Innovation Race is a clarion call to action. | |
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Rising Prices Hit Retirement
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| Joining us now is Steve Moore. | |
| Steve, welcome back to the program. | |
| Steve, unfortunately, we have you back on because of the bad inflation news. | |
| I love having you on, but it's like, oh boy, it's bad inflation. | |
| Who can explain the economic Armageddon? | |
| What is the new what is the news today and what is the significance of it? | |
| Charlie, good to be with you. | |
| By the way, you know, I'm only on your show when we have bad news. | |
| I know it's like you're the hurricane guy when we bring that exactly the weatherman. | |
| So, yeah, we got some surprisingly bad numbers today. | |
| And I was surprised. | |
| I thought we had made more progress in bringing inflation down. | |
| So I'll do a Maya Copa myself that I was surprised by these numbers. | |
| So we got a 0.5% increase in inflation, which on an annual basis is like 6.4% inflation at the very time that we thought we turned the corner on this. | |
| So by the way, they also revised upward the inflation numbers over the last three or four months, a little higher than were initially thought. | |
| That may explain, by the way, when I come on shows like yours and I say, you know, the inflation rate is 6.5% or 7%, people get angry at me. | |
| They say, what is he talking about? | |
| It's not 6 or 7%. | |
| The inflation rates, you know, closer to 9%, 10%, 12%, 15%. | |
| Does this guy go to the grocery store? | |
| Does he fill up his tank for gas? | |
| And now I feel people's pain because, you know, prior to the right before the Super Bowl, I went with my wife to, you know, stock up on everything from chicken wings to potato chips. | |
| And I couldn't believe what things cost. | |
| So I feel your pain, folks. | |
| Yeah, it's the Bill Clinton. | |
| I feel your pain. | |
| So let me ask you, Steve, we could definitely beat inflation, obviously, but would that require us intentionally going into a recession? | |
| No. | |
| That's completely wrong. | |
| I know you're just, you know, you're kind of regurgitating what the economic leftists say. | |
| You know, if it's very simple, my buddy Arthur Lapper explains this better than anybody. | |
| If the economy produces more apples, the price of apples goes down. | |
| It doesn't go up. | |
| So we need to produce more goods and services. | |
| Putting people to work does not cause inflation. | |
| I hate that argument. | |
| Under Reagan, we had declining inflation and a declining unemployment rate at the same time. | |
| Same thing under Trump. | |
| Remember, Charlie, it was only two, three years ago we had the best jobs numbers ever and the best inflation numbers ever. | |
| So I hate that logic that somehow you have to crash the economy to get inflation down. | |
| It's too many people at the Federal Reserve Board believe that. | |
| I want growth. | |
| I want prosperity. | |
| I want people to make more money, but we're not seeing that right now. | |
| What really worries me, my biggest worry right now, is that look at the debt that people, not just the national debt, which everyone knows is out of control under Biden, but more and more Americans are going into debt just to just keep maintaining their current living standard. | |
| You may have seen the report on Fox News the other day that more and more Americans are having to take money out of their 401k plans to pay bills. | |
| That's a terrible idea. | |
| You pay a huge tax penalty for that. | |
| The other thing so many Americans are the other thing people have to do now, which is also a really bad idea, is they're running up their credit cards. | |
| Did you see the numbers out? | |
| A trillion dollars on credit card debt. | |
| You know, if you don't pay that, if you don't pay that, you're going to pay penalties 15 or 20%. | |
| It could crush you. | |
| And I just want, you said this last time, Steve, and I don't give financial advice, but I will say this: do not take money out of your 401k. | |
| That is the one piece of financial advice. | |
| The tax code is written for it to grow and to mature. | |
| You guys, I think, what is it, a 25% haircut, Steve, or plus income tax or 10% plus the income tax rate? | |
| The penalty is extraordinary. | |
| It is not worth it. | |
| It is better for you to not take that summer vacation or to eat at home for a month. | |
| Please do not touch your 401ks, everybody. | |
| The tax code is merciless and brutal for you. | |
| Can you just comment on that a second, Steve? | |
| Because a lot of people are doing it. | |
| If you look at the reports, Charles Schwab and these money managers, if you go into the 94th page of their earnings call, they say this quarter we had 117,000 people request distributions preemptively from their 401k before they're 59 and a half. | |
| I'm like, whoa, that is so bad. | |
| Steve, your thoughts on that. | |
| Yeah, like, you know, this is a nest egg, right? | |
| A nest egg that you build up over your working year so that you can, you know, have a nice retirement. | |
| And if you start, you know, going into that account earlier, you're right. | |
| You're going to pay a bit. | |
| I don't remember the exact numbers, so I can't say, but there are substantial penalties that you're going to pay. | |
| And you're, you know, and don't forget, we were the ones at the Committee on Unleashed Prosperity back six months ago that did that report that was you and I talked about. | |
| It was blasted all over the place that people lost about $35,000 in their 401k plans because the stock market was so bad last year and because of Biden inflation. | |
| So this is like a triple whammy that people are taking to their retirement accounts. | |
| So Steve, you know, I know that you probably get irritated with this question, but I think it's important. | |
| Can you try to forecast the next six months? | |
| I think people are so uncertain. | |
| I get predictions all over the map. | |
| And if I were to get, I mean, just, yeah, I was just in Palm Beach and, you know, was at one of the top clubs and was raising money for Turning Point. | |
| And the consensus amongst the ruling class is: look, things are going to get bad, but we're going to be fine. | |
| There wasn't a lot of anxiety or unease. | |
| Amongst middle-class retail investors, though, Steve, people are really worried. | |
| Forecast six months out. | |
| Do you think we're going to get into a dramatic 08-style recession? | |
| Are we going to see stagflation similar to what we saw in the 70s? | |
| What sort of leading indicators are you seeing that could say, hey, in August, the country will look like X? | |
| Well, I'll say this. | |
| It's very difficult to predict what's going to happen in six months. | |
| And, you know, I've been wrong. | |
| Everybody's been wrong. | |
| Most economists predicted we'd be in a recession right now, and we're not. | |
| What I'm here to tell you is this. | |
| We are a locomotive that is speeding towards a cliff, and we're going to head over that cliff if we don't slow this locomotive down. | |
| Now, whether that's going to happen in two months, six months, 12 months, 24 months, I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But I can tell you with about 99% certainty that we are on a very, very bad path right now. | |
| And this can't continue. | |
| $31.6 trillion of debt out of a border that's out of control. | |
| Gasoline prices that are rising. | |
| People going further into debt. | |
| I don't know when it's going to crash, but if we don't turn this thing around, it is going to crash. | |
| And it's going to be very much. | |
| Remember what happened in 2008? | |
| We're almost in a matter of two or three days, the economy just crashed. | |
| I really worry, that's what's keeping me up at night. | |
| I know, Steve. | |
| And I just don't get the indication from obviously Biden and his team. | |
| They're doing so much damage. | |
| But even just the general ruling elite that they understand. | |
| Steve, debt ceiling. | |
| What is the significance of this? | |
| What do you think Republicans need to accomplish to restore some sort of fiscal sanity, which plays directly into people's pocketbooks? | |
| Well, that's an easy question. | |
| First of all, we need a path to a balanced budget. | |
| I know that makes people hyperventilate in Washington, but it has to happen. | |
| I don't know if it's got to be over four years, five years, eight years, but at some point, we have to get back to a balanced budget with a spending limitation measure. | |
| I would like to see hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars of cuts immediately, Charlie. | |
| I mean, let's not forget, Biden spent out of the $4.2 trillion, but $3 trillion of that, not a single Republican ever voted for. | |
| So they should start rescinding that money. | |
| You see the report that came out just over the weekend. | |
| Over $100 billion was stolen from the PPP program. | |
| Over $75 billion has been stolen from the unemployment insurance program. | |
| Billions have been stolen from Medicaid and food stamps. | |
| Nobody does a damn thing about it. | |
| I know. | |
| They act as if it's a cost of doing business. | |
| It creates so much cynicism in me, obviously, but our viewers. | |
| And they, you know what? | |
| Someone just emailed us here, Steve, and they say, you know, Charlie, I had to go into my 401k to pay for basic stuff. | |
| And I said, don't do that, but it's fine. | |
| But then they said, but meanwhile, no one does anything about the theft. | |
| But the government, it's almost the same thing you were saying. | |
| And I just, I get the sense that people are just losing trust in this whole system of thievery and robbery. | |
| Closing thoughts, Steve. | |
| Yeah, you put criminals in jail, right? | |
| These are people who stole your and my money. | |
| And nobody goes. | |
| And by the way, a lot of them don't even, how do we recapture? | |
| A lot of them don't even live in the United States. | |
| They're in Russia and they're in China and they're in other countries that figured out how to hack into our system and steal our money. | |
| And there are no safeguards. | |
| The inspector general has said that this money has been stolen. | |
| We haven't done it. | |
| God, there's so much work to do. | |
| And when the president sounds in a State of the Union speech like everything's honky-dory and the days of Wyan Roses, he's completely delusional and out of touch with middle-class Americans. | |
| And that's why I think you're seeing, you know, I see the same thing you see. | |
| People are becoming so discouraged and demoralized because nobody in Washington is doing anything about it. | |
| Steve, thank you for your clarity on this topic. | |
| If I were to say my prediction is I think we are going to see a tough summer. | |
| I think you're going to see rising prices. | |
| I do not see the economic, any sort of economic momentum. | |
| In fact, I see the opposite. | |
| I see the most informed, well-heeled companies preemptively starting to trim their workforce significantly, which is a bad sign. | |
| You see it at Amazon. | |
| You see it at Google. | |
| Just the other day, there was another announcement. | |
| That is not a good sign. | |
| If the most valuable companies are trimming their workforce by 5% or 10%, that means they're trying to brace for impact. | |
| Steve, thank you. | |
| Really appreciate it. | |
| Thanks, Charlie. | |
| Thanks so much for listening, everybody. | |
| Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. | |
| Thanks so much for listening. | |
| God bless. | |
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