Sunday's Super Bowl was exciting the whole way, but then ended in the most disappointing way imaginable. Charlie reacts and lets the audience know his play-by-play thoughts. Then, he runs through the sudden barrage of unidentified aircraft shot down all across North America over the weekend, and asks the question everyone is secretly thinking: Is it aliens?Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Government Spy Balloon Theories00:15:14
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Is the homeland under attack?
Are we being invaded by the Chinese or somebody else or something else?
Something is not right.
In the last couple of days, we have seen UFOs unidentified flying object after unidentified flying object enter our space or Canadian airspace that has required us to shoot it down.
On Friday, Biden ordered the Air Force to shoot down a balloon with a car-sized payload after it violated airspace in Alaska up in the Arctic Circle.
According to the Pentagon, that's the Pentagon, not the octagon.
Remember, it's important.
The UFO, quote, does not resemble in any way the Chinese surveillance balloon shot down off the coast of South Carolina.
That plus the location might suggest that it's from Russia or it's a completely different country or other countries that have this technology.
Not very many countries do.
Then over the weekend, the U.S. tracked another balloon into Canadian airspace and shot that one down as well.
According to the Canadian Defense Minister, this balloon resembled the Chinese balloon from last week, but it was a lot smaller.
Then on Saturday, NORAD shot down some airspace, something down in airspace in Montana, and sent fighter jets to investigate another radar anomaly.
But this time, they didn't find anything.
False alarm.
Nope.
Instead, we lost track of the object, which then flew over Wisconsin and Michigan before we finally found it and shot it down over Lake Huron, one of the five great lakes here in Ontario, Michigan, Erie, and Superior.
What is going on?
Well, there are a few possible answers.
Here are one of them: China and perhaps other foreign rivals are testing the Biden regime's ability to police and defend our own airspace.
Is this an invasion, a surveillance operation?
Is this a trolling project on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party where they're just kind of getting a thrill with coming into our airspace to see how fast we can react?
Another possible answer, and maybe a more disturbing one, is that these Incursions happen a lot more than we realize.
A quote from the Washington Post citing an unnamed federal official says, quote, the official speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue said the sensory equipment absorbs a lot of the raw data and filters are so are used so humans and machines can make sense of what is collected.
But that process always runs the risk of leaving out something important.
We basically opened the filters, the official said, much like a car buyer unchecking boxes on a website to broaden the parameters of what can be searched.
Now, if this is accurate, then what is going on is the government has been allowing spy balloons and other UFOs just to run rampant across the United States.
And when they suddenly got embarrassed last week by the huge Chinese balloon that was mistakenly identified by the great patriots in the state of Montana, they decided to take a tough look by shooting it down once it was over the ocean.
And maybe this happens more than we ever realized.
Maybe our sovereignty doesn't mean anything.
We know that principle is true, by the way, by how our southern border is treated.
We know that sovereignty is not a value of this current government.
Of course not.
We allow thousands and thousands and thousands of illegals to come right into our country every single day.
So then why would allowing balloons or propulsion devices, why would that bother us?
Sovereignty is an illusion.
It's an abstraction to this government.
Now I want to play a couple pieces of tape here, but the story gets weirder because it'd be one thing if it was, again, just random reconnaissance balloons.
But there's a lot of details here that demand answers.
And the way the media is handling this and covering this is so bizarre.
The way the media is handling this reminds me of COVID, where they just read the exact press release from the government and they move on.
And it's so obvious that there is more to the story.
It's standing out in front of you.
And they're almost sheepishly afraid because do they actually want the truth?
Well, let's play a couple pieces of tape here.
So first, let's go to the one over Alaska, which doesn't seem to be too concerning, but then we'll lead into something that is puzzling, to say the least.
Now, I'm just a layman when it comes to military aviation technology, but when I hear certain details, I do have a variety of questions that I think Americans deserve answers to.
Let's start with cut three.
Yeah, not even the pilots apparently were really able to identify what they saw.
Those pilots, we have learned, have given very conflicting accounts of what they actually experienced, with some pilots saying that the object interfered with the plane sensors, other pilots saying that they didn't really experience that.
Other pilots saying that when they looked at the object, they could identify no identifiable propulsion system and they did not know how it was actually staying in the air, cruising at that altitude of about 40,000 feet.
So this has all added to the Pentagon's wariness of describing in more detail what this object actually is until they can get more information through the debris that they are recovering right now.
Okay, so then that incident happens in Alaska.
And then the one that kind of got buried by all the Super Bowl news as people were worried about the commercials and the game.
Again, I watched the game, I enjoyed it, but I was more interested in what happened in Lake Huron than whether or not the refs made the right call in the end of the game with the Eagles and the Chiefs.
By the way, they did not make the right call.
I say that as someone who actually wanted the Eagles to lose.
Objectively, bad call.
You should not determine a Super Bowl based on a rather ticky tack, subjective holding penalty.
I don't like it.
Let the guys play.
But this is a more interesting story.
The F-16 fighter jets shot down the unknown object and it had an octagon shape.
What?
And I just, I love some of the people on Twitter that no matter what, they'll never allow themselves to entertain anything except, of course, it's an octagon.
I mean, come on, just go.
Obviously, it makes perfect sense.
Octagons are flying around all the time.
They are.
That's not something I've seen.
I mean, I've heard it theoretically that potentially there could be propulsion devices, but when I go to Sky Harbor, I don't see objects that are octagonal.
So let's play Cut 6.
Traveling at an altitude of 20,000 feet, no discernible payload, octagonal object with strings hanging from it.
Play cut six.
Drew a U.S. F-16 fighter jet fired a single Sidewinder missile at 2.42 p.m. Sunday, dropping the unknown object into Michigan's Lake Huron.
So far, at least, there's no explanation from the military of what exactly this object was, other than a description that officials provided of an octagonal object with strings hanging from it, but with, they said, no discernible payload.
It's not clear where these latest three objects came from, who sent them, or what their intent was.
But it does seem clear that the White House will now be under a lot of pressure to provide some answers as the week goes on, Andrew.
So we've got octagons over Lake Huron in our sovereign homeland.
Now, there are propulsion devices, including, quote, spin polarization and spin transport in quark glucon plasma or gluon plasma or ion thrusters.
And a lot of it is theoretical physics, or is it?
Look, there are rabbit holes here that go very, very deep.
We know that a lot of this technology we see deployed by our military was technology developed in the early 1980s.
So what has been developed then that we don't know about?
And what has China developed?
Or is it not China?
But then who else could it be?
Well, it's not Ukraine.
So who is it?
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Who's behind these unidentified flying objects that are over our airspace?
Now, some people say, well, Charlie, this is all a distraction.
You might be.
You might be right.
But I am pretty curious, and I'd like an answer to what is an octagon and can fly at 20,000 feet?
Is that now widespread technology?
Do other countries have that technology?
Do we have that technology?
Look, in a private conversation with somebody from the Air Force, we learned, our show learned.
And this is a quote that he says, look, I can't just quote, discuss all this, but the technology that we, the American government, the federal government, have is out of this world stuff.
You wouldn't believe it if I told you.
I've heard this from multiple people in the Department of Defense and at the top levels of our government, that there is technology the government has that would just completely and totally blow your mind.
And so some people immediately say, oh, come on, Charlie, it can't possibly be aliens.
I'm not saying it is.
I'm not saying that it's a guarantee, but I find it interesting to even ask the question that it could be extraterrestrial life or it could be China.
It's not as if our government is any stranger to allowing aliens into our country.
We do it every day.
3,000 illegal aliens come into our country every single day.
Or this whole thing could just be a ruse.
This whole thing could just be a black propaganda campaign.
It could be just a completely manufactured operation.
It could be our own aircraft that we are deploying.
For what reason, I don't know.
But we will probably learn throughout this entire process.
But the frequency of which there are now unidentified flying objects coming into our airspace should concern you.
And let's play this piece of tape here.
Ryan Zinke, who I trust, says, look, I don't think we're being invaded by Mars.
It's Chinese balloons.
Okay, but then why are they octagon shapes and they can move quickly laterally?
And they're at 20,000.
I just would love an answer to that.
No one seems to be saying that.
Play cut nine.
Well, I don't think we're being invaded by Mars.
It's just good to know.
It's the Chinese balloons.
And look, I think we need to be upfront.
The first balloon series, the administration was not telling the truth.
Nor was China, by the way.
China, remember, it was a civilian airship.
That's not true.
You know, our administration, we didn't down it because in fear of collateral damage, that wasn't true.
The idea that they were taking intelligence off it, and that's why we didn't shut it down.
That was not true.
So look, I think where we are is we got to enforce the Monroe Doctrine, target and destroy the balloons that are coming over.
And we know where they're made.
They're made in China.
So that's not beat around the bush.
This is a balloon warfare.
So Ryan Zinke seems convinced this is balloon warfare, but the story reporting that we're receiving seems to suggest something else.
And I am just curious, in the audience's estimation, do you completely discount aliens and extraterrestrials?
Now, the media is going to make fun that we even say this.
However, what's fascinating is if you go through the New York Times article, if you go through the New York Times today, which I did, what's fascinating is that the New York Times in a just kind of buried paragraph says the Biden administration is going to great lengths to alleviate concerns of people in government that this is not aliens, that this is not extraterrestrial, that this is not coming from other worlds.
And they might be right.
I'm not saying that it is.
Of course not.
I mean, it would be new.
That's for sure.
But it's even happening at a great frequency.
And the media is actually starting to dance around with it.
Play cut four.
Have you ruled out extraterrestrials?
And the general says, I haven't ruled anything out at this point.
Play cut four.
Because you still haven't been able to tell us what these things are that we are shooting out of the sky, that raises the question, have you ruled out aliens or extraterrestrials?
And if so, why?
Because that is what everyone is asking us right now.
Thanks for the question, Colleen.
I'll let the Intel community and the counterintelligence community figure that out.
I haven't ruled out anything at this point.
We continue to assess every threat or potential threat, unknown, that approaches North America with an attempt to identify it.
But should we even trust anything that the government is saying?
Could this all just be a false flag operation to fake an alien invasion or fake a UFO hysteria crisis to try to justify more power lockdowns control?
These are all rational questions.
But I do believe this.
I feel like I'm being lied to.
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Yesterday morning, I was going for a walk, and the Super Bowl was in Phoenix, and I saw a bunch of guys wearing Eagles gears.
And again, I don't have strong opinions about the Eagles or the Chiefs, honestly.
It's don't really have a dog in the fight.
And so I said this non-sarcastically to this group of guys.
Maybe it came across sarcastic.
Hey, guys, good luck today.
And they stopped.
They said, we don't need it.
We're going to win.
I was like, what?
That's a very strange way to respond.
And unfortunately, that was a pattern of Eagle fans that I encountered in the Valley.
They were very, very convinced that they were going to win, and they didn't.
But, however, to the Eagles community, they definitely do have a rather strong argument that bad things do happen in Maricopa County when the referees don't do their job.
Okay, so let's just indulge me for a second.
I know a lot of you in the audience say, Charlie, why do you talk about football?
They're the worst than all this.
I love football.
I'm not going to apologize for it.
Yes, I know.
I have to tolerate their wokeism and all this stuff.
But the beauty of the sport of football is worth cringing and complaining during the micro-dosing of wokeism.
This is the Zapruder film.
I'm sorry, not the Zapruder film.
It is the end of the Chiefs game, the Chiefs Eagles game, which is now in Eagles folklore, going to be analyzed more than that of the Kennedy assassination.
Watch this objectively.
By the way, I did not want the Eagles to win.
The whole day I was bothered by the fact that the Eagles fans are, we don't need luck.
We're going to win.
Like, okay, pal.
And also, I really, I like Jalen Hurts and I like Patrick Mahomes.
But just look at this.
This is how a Super Bowl should be decided.
No, I liked the outcome.
And I'm telling you, this is an in.
This is a bad call.
It's bad for the sport.
It deteriorates trust in referees.
Let them play, especially last two minutes.
There should be an unspoken rule by NFL officials that you only throw a flag unless it is convincing.
You only should throw a flag unless it is a smoking gun.
And this is not.
Play Cut 16 and tell me this is how a Super Bowl should end.
Keep my mic on.
Watch this here.
Juju Smith Schuster.
Worst case scenario.
They're going to see it.
He really held right there.
That is not a flag.
In week two in the second quarter with 10 minutes left to go, let alone under two minutes, right?
I was after the two-minute warning.
And that was a third-down play.
He's got his left hand on his back.
I don't know.
I'm not mistaken.
Worst case scenario.
The threshold must be so high for you.
That left a bad taste in my mouth, even though I did like the outcome.
I just think it deteriorates the trust in the score.
What a forced field goal.
The Eagles would have gotten the ball back.
And to give Eagles credit, they actually tried to employ one of my great complaints in American history.
Which is why don't they let the other teams score under two minutes in the red zone if they're trying to set up for a field game?
Field goal.
And for the Eagles' credit, they actually tried to do that.
And the player almost fell for it.
It was strategic brilliance on behalf of the Eagles all the time.
I said, why don't they just let him score?
It will increase their likelihood to get the ball back.
And of course, the Chiefs player slid on the one-yard line.
So the Chiefs almost didn't fall for the bait, but the Eagles, to their credit, were strategically looking at it the right way.
Most NFL teams don't, most teams are like, oh, no, you must always hold the line.
And all this is actually the right way to do it.
Okay, enough of that.
So are we being invaded by aliens?
Let's get back to the real topic of today.
The consensus from many of you, and I tend to agree with it, is that I don't trust the government.
This seems to be half-truths and a psyop.
And you very well might be right.
But something is troubling about this entire thing.
If it is indeed China, which obviously is the rational and most likely explanation, why are they doing this?
Why are the Chinese doing this?
Let's say that this is all China.
This is the Chinese Communist Party.
Why is the CCP now doing this?
Are they pushing the lines and boundary?
Are these soft precursors to active war?
Let's play cut 13.
Is it a fair takeaway then that the Pentagon regrets not taking down the first balloon before it crossed the entire U.S.?
Well, I'm not going to speak for the Pentagon.
I can tell you that the president doesn't regret the way that we handled the first balloon.
Chuck Yushumer was asked about the balloon, play cut 10.
The first balloon, there was a much different rationale, which I think was the appropriate rationale.
We got enormous intelligence information from surveilling the balloon as it went over the United States and watching.
And the Chinese get enormous intelligence as well.
Well, they could have been getting it anyway, but we have to know what they're doing.
Okay, and we don't know exactly.
Yeah, well, we don't know what they're doing.
They might just be trying to get better pictures.
You know what it might be, actually?
The Chinese Communist Party, they're creating a national geographic Chinese equivalent, and they wanted the beautiful pictures of the American heartland.
We don't know what China, we know what China.
We, of course, know what China is doing.
And then John Kirby was asked, National Security Council's John Kirby, categorically denying that Beijing claims the United States has flown its own spy balloons over China.
That somehow we have done this over China.
Play cut seven.
Breaking news out of Beijing, just in the last hour or two, the foreign ministry there has accused the United States since the start of 2022 of flying balloons 10 different times over Chinese airspace.
Can you respond to that accusation?
Not true.
Not doing it.
Just absolutely not true.
So the U.S., let me just push you a little further then.
So the U.S. is not using these balloons technologies at all over China?
That is right.
We are not flying balloons over China.
That is absolutely true.
So there's only a couple rational explanations for all of this, but none of them should give you comfort as if we've got enough things to worry about here.
But I definitely want to build out the argument for a second that this could be the government trying to distract us.
Think about all the different things happening right now.
I'm not saying this is for sure what's happening, but this certainly is a compelling take.
All the different topics, a potentially crumbling economy, a wide open southern border, all the money that we're sending to Ukraine.
On February 2nd, the Chinese balloon was spotted.
February 4th, we shot it down.
February 3rd, a UFO was seen over Alaska.
February 11th, the UFO was shot over Canada.
February 12th, UFO appeared over Canada.
February 12th, UFO shot over Lake Huron.
Is it that the regime needs to continue to play offense in the propaganda war to try to have us not focus on the nuts and bolts of our own civilization?
This very well might be true because this story has now monopolized some of the chatter, but they're not even talking about it in an interesting way.
It's just so banal.
It's so surface level.
And then, is this another excuse to try to use the disinformation regime to go after anybody that might even speculate that there might be more to this story?
What is the real game at play here?
I don't think we're ever, I don't think we're, I don't think we're going to know what actually is happening in this situation for quite some time.
But what we do know is that the government has participated in one deceitful act of a false flag operation after another.
A lot of this is still mere speculation.
But this particular part of our government has a very long history of keeping things secret for a very, very long time, the military-industrial complex.
Now, this is another explanation, potentially, and this one is very simple, that we have been focused on foreign wars for so long that our ability to defend our homeland has weakened,
that we are not as sharp at being able to detect objects and deter them, and maybe that these objects have been happening for quite some time, and we've been so worried about colonizing Afghanistan and trying to bring democracy to Ukraine that we are not as well prepared, and China knows that, and they're exploiting it.
But what is China trying to get here?
If you were actually trying to take over America, then why would you do this in a way where then your very expensive equipment is shot down?
I mean, let's just say that a octagon-shaped propulsion machine flying at 20,000 feet that can move horizontally, that is at least a couple hundred million dollar piece of equipment.
At that minimum, and you're just going to float it over there so it can get shot down.
Why would you do that?
It seems highly irrational.
In the kind of category of this is something other than the Chinese, I'm not saying it's aliens, I'm saying it could be, it does not seem rational to send now cumulative, probably almost a billion dollars of equipment to the American homeland to allow it to be shot down so we could study and analyze it and then also heighten our own sense of awareness.
So then you got to ask the question, is it America doing this to itself and we blame it on our own, we blame it on our adversaries to get us closer to war with China?
Now, the government would never do anything like that, obviously.
That is beyond the pale.
The government would never do such a thing as that.
So we could totally trust them.
Really quick here.
I'm not saying I believe in aliens and all this, but I'm not discounting it.
Obviously, that would, I think, be irrational.
So C.S. Lewis said this, who is, in my opinion, I think almost everyone who has done the work would agree.
He is the most thoughtful Christian theologian of the 20th century, certainly one of the most effective.
If you read Mere Christianity, which was originally delivered as a series of radio addresses during the Blitz, I think you would agree.
But just really quick, he said, the supposed threat is clearly directed against the doctrine of the incarnation, the belief the God of God, for us men and for our salvation down from heaven, was made man.
Why for us men more than others?
We find ourselves to be out one among a many million races scattered throughout a million spheres.
How can we, without absurd arrogance, believe ourselves to have been uniquely favored?
I admit that the question could be formidable.
It might turn out that the redemption of other species differed from ours by working through ours.
There is a hint of something like this in St. Paul, Romans 8:19 through 23, when he says that the whole creation is longing and waiting to be delivered for some kind of slavery, and that the deliverance will occur only when we, we Christians, fully enter upon our sonship to God and exercise our glorious liberty.
That is from The World's Last Night, chapter six: Religion and Rocketry, C.S. Lewis on alien life.
He actually wrote about it for quite some time.
I'm not saying that's the case.
It just C.S. Lewis actually thought deeply about the topic and wrote about it.
Okay, but who benefits from this?
That is the question.
And the question of who would benefit from this, it's not really China.
And just putting out, you know, the highly improbable alien topic, is that our government actually stands to benefit the most from this.
Think about it.
Yeah, I mean, China could potentially benefit from surveillance, but this is not done in a way where a foreign adversary would just keep on sending very expensive spy balloon equipment, one after the other, after the other, after the other.
That doesn't really make sense.
First of all, they lose all of the investment.
We can get their technology, only heightens the resolve of the American domestic citizen to want to defend our homeland.
If China wants to lull us to sleep to take us over, this does the opposite.
This actually increases the anxiety and the tension and the intensity of the American citizen to think that we might be taken over.
This would only increase the amount of appetite for sanctions and for tariffs and to hold them accountable for COVID.
This would only make us more hostile to China.
So that doesn't necessarily seem rational.
I know that everybody in the government says, oh, it's China, China, China, but what China is evil.
They're modern-day Nazis, but are they dumb?
I don't think so.
And so, again, let me just reiterate: what is the benefit from China doing this?
The question is: what can China get from a balloon that they can't get from a satellite?
But is there really surveillance that is so urgent to the Chinese Communist Party that they're willing to risk diplomatic relations and turn the American citizenry against them?
Maybe.
But if we've learned anything about our government, the most rational answer to the question of who benefits is not the Chinese Communist Party, it's the military-industrial complex here.
Something that we learned from COVID is that the regime needs emergencies and a crisis after crisis.
They need a rolling crisis to maintain power.
I'm not saying our government did this.
But if you were to ask the question that is the most clarifying question to lead you to the truth, who benefits, qui bona, we ask that question all the time because there's so much noise.
You just need to say, in a world of incentives, when something unusual happens, when something irregular happens, it is rational to then take a step back and say, who would benefit most from doing this?
By the way, any private investigator and every private detector, detective will always ask that question first: what is the motive here?
Why would this person kill that person?
Why would this person do that?
And by the way, we asked this question with Nord Stream and we came to the truth because the truth now seems that we actually did this.
So you take a step back.
What are we as citizens doing about the fact that our government has lied about this repeatedly in the last couple of years?
Not just this, but other situations.
And so who benefits?
Who stands to benefit?
And I know this sounds contrary.
I'm obviously no fan of China.
I think they're an enemy and they should be classified as we should stop trading with them and all that.
I don't see any rational reason why China would do this.
I don't.
Except for the fact that they just want to put a throbbing middle finger in front of us and they just want to tell us that we're stronger than you, but still, that would make that awaken the American sleeping giant.
The entire geopolitical approach of China the last 40 years has been to lull America asleep, not tick us off.
Who benefits?
That is the question.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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