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Jan. 2, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Charlie Speaks to the Young Jewish Leadership Summit

Just days before AmericaFest and Hanukkah, TPUSA hosted its annual Young Jewish Leadership Summit. Charlie speaks to the gathering about why he is certain the Bible is true, how strict observance of the Sabbath has enriched his life, why being pro-Israel is being pro-Christianity, and more.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, everybody.
Great to be here at, I think this is our second or third Young Jewish Leadership Summit.
I want to try to get you guys more involved in this first.
The staff really worked hard to put this together, so give it up for them.
They worked really hard to put all this together.
I want to save a lot of time for questions, and you can also, you have Dennis Prager after me, so he's the real special one.
I have a very special place in my heart for the Jewish people.
As a Christian, obviously, my favorite person ever to live was a Jew.
So it's okay.
You could laugh at that.
It's okay, all right?
I always tell Dennis Prager, he's my second favorite Jew.
Teaching Ten Commandments to Children 00:05:04
And that's, look, part of what I wanted to communicate is, in my personal opinion, I believe that Old Testament values, Jewish values, the values of the Torah are being routinely obliterated and destroyed by American leftism.
And this is a very serious problem.
The American nation was founded on Judeo-Christian ideas.
In fact, Thomas Jefferson wanted the American seal to be a picture of the Jews leaving Egypt.
That's what he thought was the best example of kind of the American story.
John Adams spoke fluent Hebrew.
The founding fathers, the most book that they quoted, as Dennis will tell you, is the book of Deuteronomy, of any book, period.
The founding fathers put Leviticus on the liberty bell.
Not exactly the easiest book to comprehend or to understand.
And the beauty of Torah values or the values of the Old Testament, which I believe to be the word of God and to be inerrant, is that when you apply them to your life, you will flourish.
And you don't have to look much further than the Ten Commandments or the Decalogue, which you could go through every single one of the Ten Commandments right now.
And I'm going to point out a couple of them.
And every single one are being questioned or under attack by the American left.
Every single one.
Thou shalt not murder.
Well, a million abortions every single year.
That's not tough.
How about honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in?
Well, not only is that the only commandment that involves your nation and involves a promise, but every single day we see the kind of venom, the poison of radical egalitarianism, where there is no difference between a parent or a child.
We see it happen every single day where we even have a campaign on TikTok or social media where children are told to turn in their parents or turn against their parents.
Do not covet.
There's entire industries built on coveting what your neighbor has.
And what I think is really important for us together to communicate, both Christians and Jews together, is if you just take the Ten Commandments and you apply them and you teach them to every single child in America and they believe in it, your nation will prosper, period.
This is not even a religious argument.
They say separation of church and state.
First of all, that's not in the U.S. Constitution.
It's nonsense.
It's a big lie, okay?
It was a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Convention that gets just terribly misquoted.
Every child in America should be taught the Ten Commandments, period.
And this is something that if anyone considers it to be controversial, then you should say, then what values do you want to teach children?
And we know what values they want to teach children.
And one of the main goals of the American left, of the kind of this poisonous and insidious movement, is to destroy what the Bible does so clearly, which is distinctions.
One of the things that you learn immediately when you read the Bible is that God created a world full of distinctions.
And distinctions bring order in a very chaotic and confusing world.
Let's take one that is under attack every single day.
The distinction between man and woman.
Every single day, where they say men and women are basically the same.
Now, many of you are in college and you're paying a lot of money for this.
But not just common sense, but it requires five or six years of total indoctrination and brainwashing to believe that men and women are exactly the same.
Destroying the distinction of parent and child, that parents do not have a right to parent their children, destroying the distinction of God and man.
We see this happening, unfolding in real time, destroying the distinction of man and nature, that somehow man is not greater than nature, or destroying the distinction between man and animal, saying that somehow man and animal are morally equivalent.
You see, the Bible, when it is best understood, allows human beings to flourish.
Now, as a Christian, I believe it's even more than that, but we can all agree that these are laws, these are rules that God gave to us because he loves us.
And, you know, Dennis Prager will say, and it's very hard to disagree, the hardest of the 613 laws to follow, the most difficult, is love the Lord your God with all of your heart.
You want to think about it because there's so much suffering in this world, it's not exactly always easy.
It takes effort.
If it was easy, there would not have to be a law or a commandment for it.
And I truly believe that in this very unprecedented, kind of awful time to be living in culturally, in some ways it's not as awful, but there's so much darkness happening.
The solution is the word of God.
The solution is what has already been given to us.
Loving God as Hardest Law 00:11:15
And we see in at least American Judaism, I mean, obviously there's three different communities.
There's liberal, there's conservative and Orthodox, but the vast majority are more kind of reform.
I think that's more of a fair word to say, reform, which is, I'm told then by reform Jews, whenever I say this, is that the Bible is not the word of God.
And they say, well, it might be allegorical or metaphorical.
And, you know, the idea that Jews are the chosen people, which you are the chosen people.
But a rational question is, then what are you chosen to do?
And I believe you're chosen to bring the word of God to as many people as possible.
That's a very simple commandment.
You're chosen to obey God, to honor God, but you happen to be the messenger, the community, the nation, the people that God saw fit to bring his divine and transcendent commands.
One of the reason why I believe the Bible is true, and this is, you know, very important, is that there is no way it's false because the Jews are so poorly depicted throughout the Old Testament.
If you were to make it up, why would you make the nation of Israel look so just forgetful, self-interested?
No, it has to be true because if you look at the story after story after story, the nation of Israel acts exactly how we act.
If you were going to fabricate something, it wouldn't be, you know, David saw Bathsheba and wanted her so badly that he sent her husband into war, got him slaughtered, and then, you know, slept with her.
It would be, okay, you know, he acted morally and ethically.
It's like, you have to believe that story.
It's an honest introspection of humanity.
And in fact, I believe it just goes to show that we all need redemption and that we need grace, which of course is my personal religious perspective.
So look, this is a very important topic that I really would love to see, you know, more of a, a debate's not even the right word.
It's far too often American Judaism, what is called American Judaism, in my own personal opinion, as someone who understands, you know, the Old Testament and the Bible, you know, better than most or the Torah, is really leftism masquerading as Judaism is what happens far too often.
And this is where, and if you share any love of the Torah, you know, I think that's where the counter move needs to happen, where if you have people that are rabbis or you have people in the American Jewish community that are telling you that man and women are basically the same, that it's incompatible with the Torah, period.
That should not be tolerated.
In fact, I believe it's evil.
And one of my favorite verses is Psalm 97, 10.
If you love God, you must hate evil.
It's very simple.
And there's a lot of evil to hate right now, by the way, a lot of evil.
And so we're at a crossroads in our country.
And I think that, you know, American Christians, of which I speak to churches all the time, need to continue our support for Israel and the Jewish people.
But for those of you that are not, you know, that believe that what's happening in so many circles in American Judaism is blatantly insane, then I encourage you to speak out even more.
I encourage you to challenge that wherever possible.
And I know that it can be very difficult in a lot of these left-wing synagogues and a lot of these communities, but almost every one of these major issues, I mean, I saw another one the other day that was just extraordinary.
I mean, I get these emails where someone says, Charlie, God is pro-abortion.
I said, that's so, and they gave some ridiculous example of in the book of Exodus.
You might be familiar with it, of kind of like a pseudo-abortifatient that was taken.
And a perfect response is in Jeremiah, it says, I knew you before you were in the womb.
This is not overly complicated, right?
It's that if you believe that human beings are a combination of mind, body, and soul, or mind, body, and spirit, then that human being is necessary and worthy of our protection when that baby or that human being cannot protect themselves.
And yet I find this to be, you know, I just don't understand the argument at all that is very hotly debated in a lot of stories, not even hotly debated.
What would you say?
Would you say 80% of American Jews are pro-abortion?
Would you say it's probably right?
90%?
Is that about right?
And that comes, in my personal opinion, of an incorrect approach to theology.
It really is.
But you guys could debate that amongst yourselves.
So I want to get to some questions.
Let me kind of just also say this, though, which is my charge for you is to be more confident, more proud, and dare I say, even more evangelistic to bring Jewish values to the world.
To bring the values, let's just say the Ten Commandments.
I'll give you an example.
I'm as a Bible-believing Christian.
I observe the Sabbath.
And I mean, I really observe it.
And what a gift to mankind to be able to observe.
I call it Shabbos, and my whole team laughs when I say that.
But you think about it.
I could do a whole speech.
I'm actually writing a book on the Christian case for the Sabbath, which I actually, it's the only, for those of you that don't know kind of New Testament theology, it is the only one of the Ten Commandments where Jesus did not say it was a commandment.
But the counter argument is God observed it.
Pretty important, right?
If God rested, maybe we should too.
And my working theory on the Sabbath is it makes the other nine commandments easier.
Is that it is the metaphorical, that's the wrong way to think about it.
Let me think about it this way.
It is the commandment that is the prerequisite to the other.
If you rest for a day, no technology, no trap, whatever it might be.
Now, I'll be very honest, I'm going to be violating the Sabbath tomorrow, busy day, okay?
Only a couple days a year.
I'm sure I could get a rabbi that will approve that somewhere.
But you're less likely to obviously murder, to steal, to covet.
You're with your family more.
You're less likely to commit adultery.
If you are to take yourself away from the chaotic and the frenetic world and you give a day to God and to your family, you're less likely to sin.
I've done now the Sabbath religiously for a year and a half.
And, you know, some people say to Charlie, you know, it's so hard.
And for those of you that honor the Sabbath, you know exactly what I'm about to say.
It's one of the coolest things to be able to just say, you know what?
I'm plugging out.
I'm done.
And I really think American Christians would be blessed if they followed the Sabbath.
I really believe that.
But more than that, somebody asked, and this is what's so comforting for those of you that are conservative or Orthodox, maybe you're a Reform and you believe this, so I shouldn't, you know, overly generalize because there's lots of different nuances here.
But somebody said, Charlie, but really why do you do it?
And I said, it's very simple, because I believe God told me to do it.
And isn't that comforting to believe that God told you to do something, that you don't have to overly think that?
And I also believe that if there's one, what's the only non-renewable resource we have here?
It's time.
And so, you know, as Christians, we're pretty good at giving to our church, giving money.
But do you give a day to God?
That's a big deal if you do that, to give a full day to God.
And for me, the hardest thing is turning off the phone.
Unbelievably liberating.
I really believe that this generation, being the most depressed, suicidal, anxious, and medicated generation, if every single one of them honored the Sabbath, those rates would be cut in half, period.
Turn off the phone and spend some time with real people, your family being first and foremost.
I truly believe that.
Which goes to my argument that I believe that the Ten Commandments are actually there if we follow them to bless us.
That if you obey them and you honor them, which it doesn't say for you to love your parents, for anyone that's, I know we have a couple Christian staffers in the back.
As Christians, we are actually called to love our parents, but not in the Torah.
So you don't have to love your parents.
You have to honor your parents, which is the same Hebrew word actually as heavy, right?
You must treat your parents with heaviness, which, interestingly enough, the same Hebrew word for a curse is light.
So if you were to curse your parents, you treat them lightly.
To honor your parents, you treat them heavily.
I could do a whole speech on honor your mother and father, which I believe is to be the most butchered of all.
And that's one of the reasons why the country is falling apart, period.
It's more than politics.
It's because kids don't honor their parents anymore.
And by the way, parents also don't teach their children that you must honor me.
That's a whole different issue, too.
But I'll just kind of finish on the Sabbath, which it's my personal belief in a hyper-technological world that is increasingly chaotic and kids being confused.
We have a roadmap.
We have a gift.
And it is the word of God.
And, you know, you, the Jewish people, are the chosen people that are the ones to bring the Torah to the world.
And look, as a Christian, I want to bring Christianity to the world, which I think, you know, is the way, the truth, and the life.
But you know that Jesus quoted the Old Testament more than almost anything else.
And the laws of the Torah will bless anybody that follows them, especially the Decalogue.
And what a beautiful message that we can give to an entire generation that is told the exact opposite.
They're told to follow their heart.
Jeremiah, it says your heart will lead you astray.
At every single turn, the truths of the Bible are under attack in every possible way.
And so my heart for you guys is to just be more bold and courageous.
In Joshua 1:9, it says, be strong and courageous.
Do not be afraid and be strong and courageous.
I have to get this fact checked, but I think it's basically true because I've heard a big debate, but I'm going to say it's true.
Why not?
365 times in the Bible, it says, do not be afraid, one for every single day.
I had someone tell me, though, it's actually 367.
Okay, let's pretend, whatever.
The point is, I find too often that there is kind of a hesitation on the behalf of some American Jews to be very proud and bold for the Torah and for, I mean, God Torah Israel, which is, you know, you could call it the Jewish trinity.
Courage Against Liberalism in Israel 00:14:52
That's Dennis Prager's words, not mine.
If you find it to be heretical, ask him about that.
But especially when it comes to how these things could apply to your life, and you have the opposite.
You should be immensely proud in more ways than one.
If you look at why it is that we have the separation of powers, checks, and balances that we have in our country, it comes right out of the book of Judges, 1 Kings, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy.
The entire system of American government is centered on biblical values.
And I believe that it is really the question of, you know, the American Jewish community.
I know we have some international representation, whether or not that is going to continue.
Final thing I'll say is this: when I go to college campuses and I have to debate Jewish students about Israel, that's really strange because some of the most vocal anti-Israel activists are Jews.
I don't understand it.
Having visited Israel a couple times, is Matan here somewhere?
Ah, there he is.
Best Israel tour ever.
And he took me to Hebron and didn't really tell me what I was in store.
And one of my favorite stories to tell about Matan, Imturitsu, right?
That's the organization you run.
It's terrific.
Is we were driving south from Jerusalem down to Hebron.
And I remember there's these huge signs, and I couldn't read them.
And I said, What does that sign say?
And it has a big arrow.
And he says, Oh, yeah, it says that if you go that way, you'll die.
I said, Oh, really?
By who?
And he said, Well, the Palestinian Authority.
And that's not a joke, right?
They'll kill a Westerner if you go too far.
I said, and it just all clicked.
I said, Everything I've been told by the Western press about Israel is a lie.
Because there you have, as a Westerner, an American, you go there, they'll jump on your car, they'll cut your head off, they'll kill you.
So then we continue down on the Hebron, and he points, he says, Oh, you know what happened on that sidewalk or that corner?
I said, What?
He said, Oh, yeah, you know, a guy was stabbed to death, you know, a couple weeks ago.
And it becomes very real what Jews have to experience in Israel every single day.
And then actually going to the Hall of the Patriarchs and seeing it for yourself: Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Sarah, Rebecca, and Leah.
I mean, that's all of a sudden you realize that the Bible is not a bunch of metaphors like far too many people.
It's a story of history.
And Israel is the preserver of the word of God.
And it makes the Bible come to life in a very special way.
And so I don't understand it.
I don't understand why I have to debate American liberal Jews about the need for Israel.
Maybe you guys can walk that through.
It is very strange, but guess what?
You have an ally in the fight for Israel with me, proudly and loudly.
Okay, let's do some questions.
Okay, who wants to do some questions?
You guys can line up if you would like to.
I don't know the process that we have here.
I'll hold the microphone for you to ask the question.
Or they can come to you.
I don't really care.
Don't all ask at once.
Or you can raise your hands.
There's one right here there.
Mike.
Good to see you, Charlie.
Glad to have you here.
And I live in California normally, so I've been to a lot of churches in California, and the majority of them are not pro-Israel, just blatantly not pro-Israel.
How would you explain why that is?
So for Christians that aren't pro-Israel, I think their theology is all messed up, but that's just a general liberalism that's infected the American church.
By the way, I don't mean to pick on American Judaism.
We have TPUSA faith where we're trying to excommunicate what I consider to be the demonic idea of wokeism from every American church.
So just so we're clear, you know, we're all fighting right now on this.
So I don't mean to pick.
I'm just happening to tailor the argument here.
But look, there is a temptation.
That's not the right word.
There is a tendency.
That's probably a better word.
In American Christianity to want a global government.
And it's happening at a rapid pace.
And look, Israel is sovereign.
Israel is everything the American left hates, right?
It has borders, has a shared language, culture.
It's very clear that it's a Jewish country.
And that is a direct threat to a lot of the globalists that want to obliterate sovereignty, borders, language, and culture.
And I'll be honest, you know, as an American conservative, I have to say I have mad respect for the fact that Israel is actually allowed to build a wall and deport people that want to come into their country.
We should do that too.
It's one of the reasons why I love Israel.
And not to mention for all the other reasons.
I also think a lot of American Christians, so if I were to speak to an American Christian that's not pro-Israel, that doesn't understand it, I'd say, how do you know your Bible is true?
And they say, well, it's the word of God.
I said, I agree.
But let's use some reason.
What archaeological evidence do you have?
Can you show me Capernaum?
Can you show me Nazareth?
Can you show me the Mount of the Beatitudes?
Can you show me Bethlehem?
Can you show me Jerusalem?
Like, yeah, of course.
I'd say, okay, if the Arabs took over Israel, you wouldn't be able to show me any of that.
They would destroy it all.
That's what they do.
And they've done it time and time again.
When the Arabs come across biblical archaeological evidence that either confirms Judaism or parts of the New Testament or Christianity, they destroy it every single time.
And so the case for biblical inerrancy is like, wow, there's a country where now I can visit as a Christian and I can actually see where Jesus grew up, where he walked, where he did miracles, where he walked on water, where he turned water to wine, right?
Where either the garden tomb or, you know, whichever version of events, you know, you prefer, which is still hotly debated, where, you know, Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane.
If you've never been to Israel, changes your life as a Christian.
All of a sudden, this book that is previously in your head, it puts the Bible in technicolor immediately.
And so for a Christian that's not pro-Israel, I doubt they actually love their Bible.
And I will stand by that statement.
If you are a Christian that doesn't love Israel, then you take your Bible way, way, way too much for granted.
Okay.
I guess I'll go next.
It's hard to follow John, but I'll try my best.
I think it's interesting because it seems Judaism is really the only religion that's almost been turned into a culture separate from its faith.
I mean, the show Seinfeld is absolutely hilarious, but half the show is based on tropes and stereotypes, which are great and hilarious.
But I would say, how do you return faith to a culture that is supposed to be faithful, but has just turned into, I guess, jokes and stereotypes at the end of the day?
Yeah, I don't know.
I'd have to leave that for Dennis.
Dennis, I think, would have a much better answer.
I love Seinfeld, by the way.
I actually played a whole Seinfeld thing on my show today.
It's brilliant.
It's hilarious.
And do you know what makes Seinfeld so great is the self-deprecative nature of it.
That's why it's great, okay?
It's that you don't take yourself too seriously.
One of the problems in America, like top 10 problems, is all of us take each other way too seriously all the time, okay?
And including American Christians, like there's way too much of that.
So how do you change that?
I don't know.
I don't know when it changed or how it changed, to be honest.
Not as much of an expert in that.
But I just, I think that, at least in my personal perspective, spending a lot of time around people that take their Judaism seriously and don't take their Judaism seriously, it really comes down to do you believe in the inerrancy of the scripture?
And do you believe that God has a specific way that he wants you to live?
Or do you think that it's just kind of general suggestions for you?
I mean, I met somebody the other day and they said, I'm a Jewish atheist.
And I really thought about it.
Have you ever met one of these people that they say, I'm culturally Jewish and I'm born in a Jewish family, but I'm an atheist.
And I thought to myself in the days that followed, that's really a danger sign for a religion if you can have people that could proudly proclaim that they're an atheist with the name of the religion before it.
You were a Jewish atheist.
Okay.
Well, praise God, you're not anymore, right?
Your Jewish mother beat you.
Yeah, that sounds like a Jewish mother.
So beat you in an argument.
Got it.
Okay.
Can I say that without getting in trouble?
Is that okay?
Someone's going to write it up, I'm sure.
It's a joke.
No, there's a whole, but by the way, there's a lot of truth to that.
You know, there's a lot of nastiness that happens and people say, oh, you know, Jews are so successful.
And I always wonder, I said, yeah, of course they're successful.
Why do you think they're successful?
A couple reasons.
In order to get a word in edge-wise in a Jewish family dinner, you have to make a good argument or else you're going to be talked over by a relative, right?
So you learn to talk quicker, make good arguments, you lose dialogue really quickly at a young age, a lot of interrupting.
If you're not making a good point, all of a sudden you're embarrassed.
You got to come back to the dinner table next time, make a better argument.
That's true.
Number two, education is a core value in Jewish culture.
It is.
Education is taken incredibly seriously.
Number three, mothers that care more than any other mothers, right?
You want a society and a people to flourish, have mothers that take nonstop pressure on their children to succeed or find a husband, right?
Whichever one, you know, depending on where you come from.
You do those three things.
It doesn't matter if you're Hindu, Buddhist, Chinese.
That's obeying the laws of nature.
You want to know why the black community is failing so much?
They don't have that nuclear family or those environments where those robust discussions are happening, those long family dinners because the fathers aren't around.
You don't have to overthink it.
Okay, next question.
Hey, Charlie.
Whoa, that was very loud.
I want to say thank you for your speech so far because I know it's not easy to talk to a different religion and be so respectful.
Not that hard, actually.
For others, it is.
For you, it may be a breeze.
But as far as your point about being more confident about being Jewish, that's something I take very seriously.
On the Turning Point Israel trip, I was unapologetically shouting, we need to take back the Temple Mount.
This is our land.
Let's go.
Where is everybody?
And everyone's like, hush, hush, you can't speak like that.
And I think a lot of this comes from past trauma.
And we see this on the left side a lot of the political spectrum where a lot of trauma leads people to not want to speak up.
And so I think these Jews may be scared that if they're so unapologetic, it may turn into that all the tropes get more popular and then it becomes Nazi Germany 2.0.
So what is your advice for these people who throughout history, we have always been the victims turned victors, except when it comes to American Judaism?
What's your advice for us?
Yeah, I mean, my advice is more you have so much to be proud of, I mean, and so much that has been a contribution to the mod, not just the modern world, but to the world thanks to biblical values.
I don't want to see anybody that believes in the Torah to be ashamed of that, right?
I think that's wrong, and I think it's terrible.
And it's also, look, I understand, and this is why Dennis is amazing.
If you guys have questions about any of the more obscure laws, you guys can ask him.
But if you, a question of anybody that might dare challenge you, it's a very simple question.
If you follow the Ten Commandments, will your life prosper or will your life go in a negative direction?
It's not even up for debate.
The Ten Commandments are the basis of everything that we call accepted Western morality, period.
And it's what we used to teach our children.
It used to be in front of our courthouses.
And now that we've removed it, I think we start to see the damage of that.
So, yeah, I wouldn't, if you believe in something as a religion, I think that you should try to proselytize and evangelize.
I mean, I have to give a shout out for Christians.
We're pretty good at that.
We're really good at it, actually.
And so, but if you believe you have the truth, then, I mean, I would be bold and courageous in your communication of that, especially if, you know, the truth you believe in built the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world, of which, you know, the book of Deuteronomy was, as I said, the most cited book in doing that.
We'll take one or two more, if that's okay, if we have a pressing one.
Yes, right up here.
Cool.
Thank you.
I know I'm over time.
I know.
I'll talk to the boss.
Maybe he'll allow me to keep going.
Hi, Charlie.
It's a joke.
Yes.
In terms of what you said about why a lot of people don't like Israel and don't like Jewish people, is because like, oh, we just want to be the good guys.
We just want to be nice to everyone.
So we let people walk over us.
And I think part of the reason that a lot of the conservatives that I know on the right, Christian conservatives, are not fans of Israel is because of how Israel is accepting of LGBTQ people and Muslims and everything like that.
And I'm wondering what your thoughts are on that, because I personally believe that, yeah, they're accepting.
And I feel like in the past couple of years, Israel's been a little bit letting people, groups of people, walk over them when their government doesn't align with the religious ideology that founded the country in the first place.
And I just wonder what your thoughts were on that.
That's a smart question.
So I don't want to get too deep in Israeli politics.
I don't understand it very well.
I need someone to always explain it to me.
But let me say this.
As far as the over-indulgence and LGBT stuff, my advice to Israelis, and Matan here is a pretty powerful one, if you allow liberalism into your country, it will destroy Israel.
And it's just very simple.
And I think we're seeing that.
I think you start to, look, conservatism is the defense of the best, the defense of the good, the true, and the beautiful.
And you should look at marriage as an institution, but then all of a sudden it becomes trans, right?
And then it becomes all this other stuff.
And so, look, I hear that argument, and I understand it.
But look, you have to understand in Israeli politics, from what I understand, it's very, there's a lot of different parties, a lot of different perspectives.
If that's a reason, so let me understand.
Let me make sure I understand this.
Christians say they don't want to support Israel because they have gay pride parades or whatever.
Yeah, that's from what that's what I hear.
Yeah, so they don't support America either.
I mean, like, I don't understand the argument, right?
Like, I'm not exactly a fan at all of that nonsense, but do you still support the nation, right?
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And the history and what they're trying to do, right?
That's like saying, you know, I hate America now because we have a million abortions a year.
Okay, I hate that we have a million abortions a year, but I also love America.
So whoever's administering that argument, I don't think, loves anything, probably, that would be a nation, right?
Except maybe like Saudi Arabia or something.
I don't know.
Maybe they do.
Okay, that'll be the last question.
Hey.
Oh.
Charlie, thank you so much for coming here.
And we'll get to you as the last question.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Where am I looking?
Right here, right here.
Oh, hi, how are you doing?
Doing good, doing good.
Thank you.
By the way, thank you so much for the speech.
It was really beautiful.
I wanted to ask you about the Jewish defense line against kind of new ideologies that are coming out with like Nick Fuentes and like influential figures like Kanye West that are kind of influencing lower educated communities and hating Jews and kind of thinking that Jews run the world and all these crazy conspiracy theories that are,
which is real misinformation that's being spread to like the world.
the all of the U.S. Right now, and the effect it's having on the religious Jewish communities and the American perspective on Jews in general.
Yeah, that's a great question.
So let me say a couple things.
Jew hatred has no, has no place in the conservative movement.
I don't call it Anti-Semitism, it's Jew hatred, is what it is, period.
And also I'm gonna defend Donald Trump, if that's okay.
Donald Trump has been the great friend of the Jewish people and of Israel.
And I find this whole non-stop attack on him the last couple weeks to just be mean-spirited and wrong.
It's just not, it's not good.
I don't like it at all.
And it's a man who moved the embassy to Jerusalem, deported Nazis.
This is a person who has grandchildren that are Jewish.
And understanding the facts and circumstances, if Donald Trump understood everything leading up to that dinner, he wouldn't have had that dinner at all.
Okay?
So, and I gotten a lot of debates around that.
So, look, I mean, as far as you ask the question, how do Jews stand up for Jews, right?
Is that basically the question, right?
I mean, look, you got to call out evil wherever it is.
You also have to understand that, you know, in an era that we're living in right now, which things can go viral almost instantaneously, that the best antidote is truth.
And that's an incredibly important thing.
I mean, look, to even say something along the lines that, you know, Hitler wasn't that bad, I don't even think the grasp, like, so then you have to, I can't believe I didn't have to do this.
Like, why was Hitler that bad?
It wasn't just the amount of people that he killed, that wasn't it.
No, it was the stated and not just attempted, but executed ideology of the extermination of a people.
That's like the most evil thing a human being can do.
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And praise God, he wasn't totally successful.
And so I try to not spend too much time on it because I try not to put oxygen in that kind of nonsense.
But I will say something unequivocal.
I don't think it should be even debated that Nazism and Hitler is the bottom of the barrel of what humanity could possibly do and that has no place in decent or respective dialogue or anywhere around here or the conservative movement.
Thanks for the question.
Yes?
Hi.
So I was just wondering, as a Jewish conservative, how can I respond to a lot of Christians I've had tell me that you can't be Jewish and be a conservative at the same time?
Yeah, I mean, I would respond: you can't be Jewish and be a liberal, but that's just my, I mean, I don't understand it.
How could you be Jewish and be like pro-LGBT?
Did God create man and woman and also 30 other genders?
I mean, by definition, if you are Jewish, you are conservative.
I'll prove it to you.
What if you guys change the Torah every 100 years?
Seriously?
Conservative means things last.
By definition, the Jewish people should be the most conservative community.
Oh, we don't like this verse in Deuteronomy.
We're going to change it.
Or we don't like this verse in Judges.
No, it stays the same.
It passes down from one generation to the next.
I mean, it's like also saying, how could you be pro-Israel and be liberal?
You can't, because they're incompatible, right?
It's conservatism is recognizing what is beautiful, understanding what is good, and then willing to defend what is good and beautiful and best.
At its best, that is the Jewish people who gave the world the Old Testament, that gave us Israel, and also gave us an incredible tradition that, quite honestly, again, the American founders found so important that helped largely birth the freest, most beautiful country ever to exist in the history of the world.
And so I know it's controversial.
I do not believe you could be a Bible-believing Christian and/or Bible-believing Jew and be a liberal.
Pick one, because they're incompatible in my theological view.
Baroque Kashem, God bless you guys.
Thank you so much.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.
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