Charlie is joined by Kari Lake to unpack the bombshell lawsuit she just filed against the state of Arizona and Maricopa County, and it’s a doozy. They go through all of the evidence Kari’s team has found, as well as the sworn testimony of 4 whistleblowers alleging massive chain of custody and signature verification issues. And, as more of the Twitter Files are being released, the gravity of the censorship that took place is weighing on everyone. At the center of the censorship is Yoel Roth, former Head of Trust and Safety at Twitter, and Charlie dives into the impact Yoel had on the bans, his secret meetings with the FBI, and more.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Dante's Ninth Circle of Hell00:03:39
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What is in the ninth circle of hell, according to Dante?
Those of you that are not familiar, have not read your divine comedy recently.
The divine comedy is an extended poem that talks about the levels, the orders of hell, purgatory, and heaven.
It is one of the most instrumental, one of the most beautiful pieces of literature ever in the Western canon.
Dante gives you a tour of human vices.
Now, it's a difficult read because it's written in a poem and it's translated into English, so it doesn't fit as perfectly.
Dante spent so much time working on the syllable combination to actually make it mathematically consistent with the broader themes he was talking about.
But he orders, in his opinion, what would be the worst thing somebody can do and their correlated punishments.
So lust, sloth, gluttony, violence.
But at the lowest level of hell, right outside of where Satan himself resides, are the people that committed treachery and betrayal.
The ninth circle of hell, according to Dante, is filled with people who betrayed those closest to them.
So, for example, in the first round of this circle of hell is for traitors to one's family.
It is named after Cain from the Bible, who, of course, murdered his brother Abel.
The second part of this circle is for those who betrayed their country.
And the third part is for hosts who betrayed their guests.
The final level, which was the absolute deepest level of hell in Dante's description, is for those who betray their masters, lords, and benefactors.
At the very bottom is Satan, who, of course, betrayed God, devouring the body of three separate traitors, three mouths, Brutus, Cassius, and Judas Iscariot.
Government Agencies Acting Together00:06:28
Of course, Brutus and Cassius, the two leading assassins of Julius Caesar.
Now, why this buildup?
What does Dante's divine comedy have to do with what we're living through right now?
We are living through a regime that was made possible, that was put into place thanks to the behavior, the actions, the planning of people that betrayed their nation and betrayed their oath to the U.S. Constitution.
On Friday, we learned, thanks to Elon Musk's courage via the new drop of Twitter files, thanks to Matt Taibbi's reporting, that Twitter had regularly scheduled meetings with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of National Intelligence.
In fact, these meetings were done so regularly, they were done so frequently, that they had them built into the calendar apparatus under fake and disguised and camouflaged names on Twitter's calendar scheduling, let's just say, procedures.
Yoel Roth was the main driver of this.
Yoel Roth is someone that you're going to hear more and more about.
You see, Yoel Roth was meeting with the FBI so regularly that he would brag to his colleagues at Twitter in almost joking fashion, saying, Yeah, I'm definitely not meeting with the FBI right now about Donald Trump.
In fact, in one exchange, Yoel Roth was saying to his colleagues, this is what's so amazing.
He said, he says to his friends, hey there, I have to miss the FBI and DHS meetings today.
I want you to just pause about this.
This is Twitter's own internal Slack channels.
This is Yoel Roth saying, hey, I got to meet our regularly scheduled meeting with the FBI.
Think about that.
If it was a once-in-a-blue moon thing, it'd be, hey, I have to miss the important meeting.
No, meetings, plural, it happens regularly.
They got to know each other.
The FBI and Twitter developed familiarity with one another.
He says, can you give me a readout if there's anything interesting that comes up?
And his colleague, Patrick Conlon, said, sure thing, I hope everything's okay.
You see, Yoel Roth would, in his internal Slack channels, we know this thanks to Elon Musk dumping all this information, would be saying that specific tweets and pieces of information that the FBI did not like would be flagged by the Bureau, flagged by DHS, and then Twitter would censor them, said differently.
The FBI was engaged in an unconstitutional and probably illegal, deliberate campaign to censor the speech of Americans via proxy.
Taibbi reveals that while flagging these tweets for review, Twitter would then look at them and in some cases just suppress or censor them.
Quote, from the files, we just got a report from the FBI concerning two tweets.
The first related to shredding of mail and ballots.
This has been proven to be false.
Do you have a moment to be ready for this one?
The second tweet then is about an elected Indiana Republican who claimed, quote, between 2 to 25% of ballots by mail are being rejected for errors.
So the FBI was flagging statements by elected Republican officials to be meddled with, suppressed, or perhaps even deleted by Twitter.
The FBI does not have the right to do this, so they had to go to their partners led by Yoel Roth.
After January 6th, Twitter built an even closer relationship with all of these government agencies.
This is the fourth branch of government we've been worrying about.
Unchecked, unelected, FBI, DHS, DNI.
These agencies of government were not acting independently.
They were outsourcing their censorship because the FBI is not legally allowed to do it on their own.
So they did it via proxy.
And by the way, this is the textbook definition of fascism.
Government working with private business to suppress your freedoms, your liberties, your civil rights.
One of Roth's colleagues joked about meeting titles, saying, Oh, yeah, sure, they're very boring business meetings.
This is definitely not about Trump.
And Roth said, Yeah, pretty much.
I'm definitely not meeting with the FBI in all quotes, all caps.
I swear.
So, why do we categorize this as treason, as betrayal?
Well, it's rather self-evident.
In 2020, the FBI head, Christopher Wray, DHS Secretary Chad Wolf, and acting DNI chair John Ratcliffe were all Trump appointees.
Now, John Ratcliffe is a friend of this program.
He went on Maria Barta Romo and denies this.
Chad Wolf was acting of DHS, so maybe they didn't know what was going on in their own department.
But this was Trump's own government, Trump's own administrative state, that was acting exactly as Brutus and Cassius were acting with Julius Caesar thousands of years ago, acting to undermine, usurp, and remove a president that they did not like, that they were swore in allegiance to the Constitution to faithfully and dutifully execute the laws of the land.
And what did they do with that?
They stabbed Trump and the United States Constitution in the back.
The worst thing that you could do, according to Dante's own analysis of the depth, the betrayal of human behavior.
We are now living under a regime, the Biden regime, that we said for a long time was implemented and not elected, but now we have continued glaring evidence that our national conversation, our public discourse, did not fall apart on its own.
No, our national discourse, our ability to have a digital public square was torpedoed by people that committed constitutional treason via our government and Twitter, and we're bragging about it.
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Yoel Roth's Scandalous Calendar00:05:07
So the main censor, the person who was one of the architects of this betrayal, similar to that of Brutus and Cassius, is Yoel Roth or Yoel Roth.
Yoel Roth was one of the most powerful people on the planet.
Someone described that he was actually the de facto CEO of Twitter for some time.
His official title was head of Twitter's Trust and Safety.
But in effect, he was Twitter's chief censor.
He was in charge of saying that this would be allowed to stay on Twitter and this would not.
Elon Musk has described him as saying he was the de facto CEO of the company before he purchased it and took over.
He was one of the most powerful people in the world.
He could and did deplatform the leader of the free world.
He was the liaison that met with the FBI and DHS.
So let's take a step back here.
If he was de facto CEO of Twitter, if he was dealing personally with the top-level sensitive information, therefore, the meetings that Yoel Roth had with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, with the Department of Homeland Security, were not inconsequential, little meaningless meetings.
These were high-stakes, civilizational defining meetings.
These were planning sessions for political collusion.
So over the last couple weeks, a lot has come out about Roth.
For one, people have found his PhD dissertation and his other academic writing.
So Yoel Roth is a gay man.
That's not relevant if we're just talking about what he did and why he did it.
Not relevant.
His personal sexuality does not apply to this.
However, it does apply to this because now that I am attacking Yoel Roth and other people are, they say, you can't attack him because he's a member of some victim group immediately trying to play the gay card.
So in that sense, I guess it does become increasingly relevant.
He talked a lot about how his dream job was to write chef-themed porn.
I don't even know what that is.
He says that his new office features an appropriate amount of gay porn.
He has a pornographic calendar.
Okay, way too much information, kind of weird and creepy.
He talks about it.
This is Yoel Roth talking about Trump's tweets being labeled as misinformation.
Play cut six.
But what are you worried about these Twitter files?
It's terrifying.
All of a sudden, we apply a misinformation label to Donald Trump's account, and I'm on the cover of the New York Post.
And that is a deeply terrifying experience.
And I say this from a position of unquestioned privilege as a cis white male.
Like the internet is much scarier and much worse for lots of other people who aren't me, but it was pretty scary for a long time.
Yeah, and we have you to thank for it, for making it safer, immediately playing the victim.
It's just so scary that everyone's coming after me.
Yeah, maybe you shouldn't have betrayed your country, Yoel Roth, for your own degenerate purposes.
He proposed co-founding a blog called Hackers and Porn.
He said, needless to say, I'd be writing for the porn side.
He also once shared an article from Salon asking whether it might be appropriate for high school students to have relationships with their teachers.
Yoel Roth also celebrated how Grinder users use emojis and code language to get around the app's ban on explicit sexual language.
But then a few years later, as Twitter's chief censor, he deliberately twisted the rules to enable more censorship of conservatives.
In his PhD dissertation, which has now been deleted by University of Pennsylvania, Roth speculated on whether the app Grinder should be modified so that underage users can join, partly on the grounds that it would improve safety since underage people are already lying to get on.
In a 300-page dissertation, Roth says that he was a daily user of Grinder and other hookup apps.
So here's what it is: Yoel Roth was a, and actually is, a degenerate boy king, someone with way too much power that no one elected.
They just stumbled into this role with the ability to police, censor, and manipulate news stories at any time.
It reminds of the archetype of Joffrey Lannister, of the boy king that just has all this power and no one can possibly question him.
And you play the victim when anyone dares question your reign of terror.
And then Yoel Roth comes out and he says, well, it's just so scary.
You're a traitor to America, Yoel Roth.
And we're just beginning talking about you.
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Sabotage and Ballot Tampering00:14:55
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Carrie, welcome back to the program.
Nice to see you, Charlie.
I guess the correct term is we filed a lawsuit.
But yeah, I did say we dropped it, and then someone said, you dropped it.
I go, no, no, no, we filed it.
We filed it.
And it's a doozy.
I mean, it really exposes the dark underbelly of rigged elections.
And I hate to use terms like that, but that is what we have.
And when we didn't deal with what happened in 2020 and deal with it honestly, because people were being censored, they were afraid to speak out on it.
This is what you get.
Another election.
The people are losing faith in our elections and the system of our elections.
And we're going to have a situation where nobody feels like their vote counts because right now it doesn't.
It's being mixed in with a whole bunch of bogus ballots to the tune of hundreds of thousands here in Arizona.
So that's a serious accusation.
Walk us through the evidence.
Walk us through the lawsuit.
It's 70 pages.
It's very powerful.
That's right.
So take as much time as you want, Carrie.
Walk us through it.
Okay.
Here it is.
It was filed Friday, and it's 278 pages of exhibits that are not included in this.
It's a 70-page lawsuit, but we dropped off all of our exhibits with signed declarations under penalty of perjury.
We have whistleblowers from Runbeck, which is the company that prints out the ballots for Maricopa County and really many other places around the country.
And we also have whistleblowers, three of them who work for the county in the voter signature verification portion of the work being done with the mail-in ballots.
As you know, most of our ballots come in mail and ballot here in Arizona.
And the only security feature, truly, are two things.
That's where you sign the back of the envelope swearing that you are the one who filled it out and mailed it in.
And then we have chain of custody.
That's where we keep a very close tracking of each and every ballot so that fake ballots can't be slipped in or legal ballots can't be pulled out.
In both of those areas, there were complete abject failures.
And we have evidence showing that in testimony that people have given us and signed declarations.
We also have an expert in when it comes to certification of the equipment who says that this ability for all of these machines to go out kind of in unison on Election Day could not have been done absent of intentional misconduct.
I wanted to read the quote, could not have occurred absent of intentional misconduct.
So he's basically saying without intentional misconduct, that epic meltdown on election day that disenfranchised so many Republican voters wouldn't have happened.
This lawsuit is just ripe with all kinds of errors, all kinds of election laws that were broken or ignored.
And if we don't follow election laws, we won't have a country much longer.
And that's why I'm filing this because I want to restore our faith in our elections and make sure that the rules and laws are being followed so that we know on election night who won and we can live with the results.
So the 300,000 mail-in ballots that had no chain of custody, is that statewide or is that just Maricopa County?
And how did you guys come to that figure?
That was through a Runbeck employee who is a whistleblower and said that the ballots that were coming in and they did the math on it, I think it was 200, I'll tell you, 298,900 had no chain of custody.
When they were coming in, they weren't following all of the regulated and mandated requirements when it comes to whenever you open up a bin, opening it up, signing it, counting how many are in there, replacing it.
It was haphazardly done and they came up with that figure.
And we have all of the declarations from that whistleblower, which were included in our filing on Friday.
And those are 300,000 roughly, a little bit shy of that.
When you don't have a chain of custody, how do we know if those were legal ballots?
How do we know if they were ballots that were slipped in illegally?
That same whistleblower said that Runbeck allowed for family members and employees to drop off their ballots at Runbeck with no observers watching, with no chain of custody.
How do we know if you dropped off five family members' ballots or maybe you slipped in 50,000?
There's no chain of custody on that.
And that is not a legal place to drop off ballots.
Yet they did it anyway, according to this whistleblower.
So the signature matching has been a complete joke.
According to your website, a 2020 review of 230,339 envelopes, 18,022 were egregious mismatches, more than enough of the Trump margin of 10,047.
19,631 failed standards.
But in 2020, 4,308 same names of the egregious mismatches voted again.
5,289 same names of bad standards voted again.
So what you're alleging is that it's not just one topic here, right?
It's the machine issues.
It's the lines.
It's the disenfranchising, but it's also the chain of custody issues.
It's also the signature verification, relaxing standards.
This was an across the board sabotage is what the argument you're making.
It is a sabotage of the election.
Absolutely.
The only way to stop our movement is to sabotage Election Day.
You know, one of the other issues was the commingling of ballots.
Remember, people were showing up.
They were voting and they were being told when they got to the line to put their printed out ballot into the tabulator and it wasn't going in.
They were told, well, why don't you just put it in drawer three?
We'll take it down to the county and we'll count it for you there.
Well, we're finding out that the Board of Supervisors report is inaccurate.
They said just a couple of locations where they mixed up those ballots, the uncounted ballots with the counted ballots.
Our reports show at least 16 locations had the uncounted votes mixed in with the counted votes.
This Board of Supervisors report is trying to diminish and downplay the level of ineptitude and malfeasance on Election Day.
We have observers, we have workers who are working the polls who have testified to what they saw, what they saw, what they witnessed, what they did on Election Day.
And it goes against what the Board of Supervisors is saying.
Doesn't surprise me.
Same Board of Supervisors who lied under oath when Andy Biggs was questioning them about the 2020 election and the deletion of several election-related files and they lied under oath.
And they're now trying to diminish what happened on Election Day and act like it wasn't that bad when in fact it was much worse than they said it was.
And we have the documentation proving it.
You are alleging 59, it's a fact, 59% of Maricopa County's voting center, 223 voting centers had printer or tabulator failures.
Yep, at least 59%.
And so that was causing people to show up and they got there and they couldn't print the ballot or the ballot printed wrong and it wouldn't be fit into the tabulator system.
We know of two locations where all of the equipment at some portion of the day was not working.
So not just one or two tabulators or one or two printers.
At the Cave Creek Town Hall during portions of Election Day, all of the equipment wasn't working.
This is according to our lawsuit and according to the documentation that we have.
Now, keep in mind, the people voting on Election Day were three to one voting for me over Hobbes.
And so when you take that, those huge numbers, 75% of the people voting on Election Day were voting for me, and then you basically shut down or make it impossible to vote or very difficult to vote at roughly 60% of the locations to vote, you're going to cut into our lead.
This is the disenfranchisement of voters in Arizona.
And when you do this in Maricopa County, Charlie, where more than 60% of our population lives, you're disenfranchising the folks who live in the other counties in Arizona.
This lawsuit is full of serious, serious judgment problems on the fact or on the part of our election officials, who I believe had a major conflict of interest.
Stephen Richer, Bill Gates, who run Maricopa County elections, both had a singular mission when it came to politics this go-around to defeat me.
This is a very, we have the lawsuit right here.
This is a serious lawsuit.
And the evidence here is remarkable.
I mean, you just go to one part of the lawsuit here.
You have here in a certain precinct, LDS Church, Southern, 120-minute wait, 275 people in line.
Desert Hill Community Church, 120-minute wait.
Goes one after the other here.
It's incredible, Carrie.
You're talking about line after line after line.
You guys estimate, I think your estimates are low, conservatively between 15 to 30,000 Republican voters that were disenfranchised on Election Day.
I think those, and you guys do say conservatively in your lawsuit.
Yeah, we have to fight this right now because if we don't stand up and demand honest elections, we're not going to have a future.
Our sacred vote cannot continue to be trampled on.
And we can't sit and accept this kind of elections run by people who either don't know what they're doing or committing malpractice of their duties.
Well, I also want to talk about remedies.
I want to talk about what is the order you're asking for because based on all this, we need a new election, period.
But whether or not a judge has the courage to do that, I am, let's just say, neutral.
I pray that a judge has courage.
So, Carrie, what is the remedy that you are asking for in this lawsuit?
Well, there's a couple of things.
We want to inspect the Maricopa County ballots from the election, including the signature envelopes and corresponding signatures on file.
We believe as we extrapolated the data we have and the experts that looked at this, that when we look at signatures, that 100 up to 130,000 ballots will turn out to be fake mail-in ballots.
They don't have a real voter behind them because the signature verification is not there.
Now, if you are for mail-in ballots, and I know there's a segment of the population that are for that, they like the convenience of it, they travel, they don't like to go to the polling places, then you have to admit that the only way to keep them safe is through a valid signature that can be cross-checked, correct?
They're not doing that right now.
And we can't have a system where we have the majority mail-in ballots, and that just becomes something they ignore or don't do.
Carrie, tell us about your three whistleblowers.
We had more than three.
We had four whistleblowers, but three of them worked for Maricopa County, and they were doing the signature verification process.
And they were shocked at how many of the mail-in ballots were coming in with bad signatures.
There's three levels that you go through to approve a signature, and they were failing to the tune of tens of thousands a day.
And they would reach out to their colleagues on the other side.
Once a signature fails, it goes over to be cured.
That means somebody in a different department looks at the signature, and then they contact the voter attached to that signature and say, hey, did you send this in?
Because we can't read the signature.
So tens of thousands of them were being denied anywhere between 20 and 45 percent of all of the mail-in ballots they were looking at.
The signatures were not matching.
And they would go to send them over to curing, but the people in curing weren't getting that many.
They were getting just a tiny fraction.
The people said that about 90% of the signatures that were they deemed were bad were never making it over to the curing department.
Somebody and the whistleblowers was pushing them through without having them cured.
And so this is why we want a judge to give us access to those.
We want a judge to give and how, you know, if we do have situation where votes are being, phony votes are being put in with no people attached to them, it makes sense that they would want to do that, right?
Because when you call the cure, you're going to find out there's no human being on the other end of that ballot.
And so we want to look at all.
We want a judge to give us access to look at all of those signatures and compare them.
And we're happy to do the work because this is our only security feature to mail-in ballots.
And if we blow that off, then we don't, then we have, we truly don't have secure elections.
It was the run back whistleblower who talked about the 300,000 ballots that were had no chain of custody.
We don't know where they came from.
And when you don't have a chain of custody, that means bad ballots, fake vote, fake ballots can get brought in or legal ballots can get pulled out.
We need to have a better handle of our elections.
We also discovered that 25,000 additional ballots were brought into the system after Election Day.
In the days after the Election Day, all of a sudden, the number of ballots that they were counting and adding to the system increased by 25,000 ballots with no chain of custody.
And we want to find out where did those 25,000 ballots come from?
It's very curious.
Yeah, curious is one word for it.
So the remedy is asking for a new election.
Walk us through this then, Carrie, because people have been fighting the election integrity thing for a while.
In 2020, people were saying, you know, making huge proclamations.
What do you think is the path forward here?
Missing Chain of Custody00:02:37
It's in front of a judge.
The election was certified, but now this is the election challenge and contention.
Where are we at?
Well, there's a bunch of different things we're asking for.
One of them is we're asking to be able to take a look at those envelopes and the corresponding signatures in the database that would match so we can go ahead and figure out what these matches are.
We believe there may be upwards of 130,000 bad ballots because of signature verification problems that were mismatched.
Some of that curing was done at an off-site contract or third-party contractor with no observers watching that curing process.
That was what another whistleblower told us about.
So we want to look at those.
We're asking a judge to let us see that.
And then we're also asking a judge to either set aside Maricopa County or redo Maricopa County.
And we believe that's a reasonable ask considering all that we've uncovered here.
And again, we have 278 pages of exhibits and sworn signed declarations at the penalty of perjury attesting to all that went wrong in our election.
We want to make sure if that election is redone, that people like Katie Hobbs and Stephen Richer and Bill Gates and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors have nothing to do with it.
They've proven that there is a conflict of interest.
They've proven their ineptitude already.
And we need an independent outside source running our election that we can trust.
You have a 70-page lawsuit with 250 pages of exhibits.
It's an amazing thing.
We have it right here.
We've been reading through it, and it's full of data, whistleblowers, new information that previously was not made public.
A new election, minimum, very minimum, a new election.
And you just look at the signature verification issue itself.
I really pray that there's going to be a courageous judge out there, whatever judge is in front of.
We have a judge who was assigned to it, Peter Thompson, and we're really looking forward and hoping that he has an open heart and an open mind and will adhere to the Constitution.
And we trust that he will.
And I have faith.
There's a lot of cases coming down on this right now.
We've got one coming down today in Mojave County.
Harris County, Texas is fighting the election there, asking for a redo.
Kerry Lake, thank you so much.
And we'll see you at AmericaFest.
Thanks, Charlie.
Terrific lawsuit.
Thank you, Carrie.
Thank you.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thank you so much for listening.
God bless.
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