The Issues Democrats Can't Censor Will Be Their Downfall with Abe Hamadeh and Rob Collins
New DHS leaks expose the Biden Admin's aggressive experts to control and censor ordinary Americans. But Charlie explains that while you can censor Facebook, you can't censor inflation, you can't censor crime, and you can't censor failure. Rob Collins, founder of the conservative credit card Coign, and Arizona AG nominee Abe Hamadeh join to talk about growing GOP momentum and the potential for massive seat flips all across the country.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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It's a very important race happening in Arizona.
Carrie Lake is looking really good.
Another poll showed her up 11, but we cannot stop.
I'm telling you, Carrie Lake is such an important candidate, and she is carrying the entire Republican ticket.
And I don't think our, I think our next guest will agree with that sentiment.
I don't think he'll find that an insult or offensive at all.
In fact, I think they're welcoming this kind of energy and this kind of enthusiasm.
And joining us now is the next attorney general for the great state of Arizona, Abe Hamadai.
We need everyone in Arizona to vote all the way through the ticket, including for Attorney General.
Abe, welcome back to the program.
Thanks for having me on, Charlie.
Abe, how's your race going?
What are you hearing on the ground?
It's going great, Charlie.
And as you said, Carrie Blake Masters, all of us right now are working together because we all have that America First New Republican Party movement going on.
And everywhere we're going, we're promoting one another.
And, you know, the rest of the country's watching what we're doing right here in Arizona because it's quite unusual.
Too often, the consultants and the political class say run your own race, right?
But here, we all recognize we need each other.
We need Blake Masters, the United States Senate, in order to secure our border.
I need Carrie Lake as our next governor to declare an invasion at our southern border.
So we all need each other right now.
And I feel the momentum and the energy.
You know, people are exhausted.
They're sick and tired of the lies by the media and by the Democrats.
Every single place Democrats have taken power, they've turned our cities and states into misery and chaos.
So November 8th will be their day of reckoning, Charlie.
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
And so talk about your opponent.
She's running these ads that are very, very deceiving.
She says, I'm a former Republican commissioner.
Like, yeah, okay, pal.
And she's a defund the police type.
She's a very radical person.
Talk about that.
No, you're exactly right.
She claims to be a former Republican, but she was nothing.
She's been a radical environmentalist for decades, and her top issues are fighting climate change, abortion, and saving democracy.
You know, she wants to fight the weather.
I want to fight the criminals.
I want to fight the drug cartels.
That's the big difference.
But you're right.
Her top consultant has posted horrific tweets saying that law enforcement equals killing black people, Charlie.
And do you think the media picked up on that?
Not a single one did.
They just completely ignore it because, you know, besides that, she's a former journalist at the Arizona Republic, which is a trash news outlet out here in Arizona.
So that's where it's going on.
You know, the Democrats, they have the media and their goons over there being the propaganda arm for their Democratic Party.
So that's what we're going up against.
But I really feel right now, especially with attorney general races and district attorney races, people are sick and tired of it.
All we want is to uphold the rule of law.
And what they do, what these Soros-funded prosecutors do, they just erode that confidence in our system.
So we're going to push back.
Yeah, that's right.
So you made some news the other day where you said you are going to join forces with Senator Rand Paul to prosecute Dr. Fauci.
Walk us through that.
What can an attorney general do to impanel a grand jury, if at all?
I mean, what are the limits of an AG, especially here in Arizona?
Look at AGs all across the country.
We're fighting successfully and winning.
I don't know if you saw, there's another great Senate candidate in Missouri who's the current attorney general, Eric Schmidt.
But he's actually, now they just got, they're able to get Dr. Fauci for a deposition.
You know, that's what AGs are doing right now, the successful ones, the ones who actually have a backbone and push back.
So looking at what Rand Paul, that's why we need Blake Masters, United States Senate with Rand Paul to go after him in those Senate committee hearings.
But here in Arizona, I mean, look at the Chinese Communist Party, also the Missouri AG.
They sued the Chinese Communist Party for unleashing the virus on us from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
There's some limitations of AGs, don't get me wrong.
We can't sue a sovereign nation like China, for instance, but that's why they worked around it to go after the Chinese Communist Party.
So here in Arizona, we're pushing back.
We're getting creative.
The left always does this.
Now it's time for Republicans to actually have a backbone and fight back.
Amen.
You've also said you're going to go after the Mexican drug cartels.
Talk about that.
Yeah, you're exactly right.
So on day one, I'm going to work with the legislature to declare the cartels as terrorist organizations, Charlie.
Under current Arizona law, we use the U.S. Department of State's definition of what a terrorist organization is, and it's been politicized.
You know, I'm a former Army intelligence officer.
I served overseas for 14 months in Saudi Arabia about a year ago.
And the Yemen Houthi rebels, they were firing missiles at us when I was over there.
And they were under President Trump terrorists.
Under President Biden, they were delisted as terrorist organizations.
And that's primarily one of the reasons why he has such a bad relationship with Saudi Arabia, for instance.
But here in Arizona, we know what the threat is.
It's the narco drug cartels, the terrorists at our southern border.
We're going to seize their assets and go after any banks who are doing business with them.
And we're also going to have enhanced sentencings on them as well.
So if they're caught drug smuggling or human trafficking, it's going to have an enhancement to the already sentenced.
That's going to take a backbone to go after those narco-drug criminals.
It's very important, and I applaud you for that.
We're going to have your back 100%.
I want to play a piece of tape here.
And this is about Illinois.
It's not about Arizona, but it's about what will happen if we allow Democrat AGs and these maniacs to get into power.
It's a clip of Joe Rogan discussing the elimination of cash bail, play cut 35.
They're essentially eliminating cash bail for almost everything dangerous.
The law includes secondary murder, arson, so you can light a guy's house on fire, get right out of jail, drug-induced homicide, robbery, kidnapping, aggravated battery, burglary, intimidation, aggravated driving under the influence, fleeing and eluding drug offenses, and threatening a public official.
No bail.
No bail.
Now, I'm not saying that's happening in Arizona tomorrow, but it is a theme, isn't it, Abe?
If we let down our guard, we allow people like Hayes and these Marxists to take over, all of a sudden you get ideas like that.
Absolutely.
And we already have one DA, George Soros prosecutor, here in Pima County, actually down in Tucson.
And that's exactly the policies that they're implementing so quickly.
There's also a very important county attorney race in Maricopa County.
I encourage every Republican to vote for Rachel Mitchell because her opponent, Julie Gunigall, would bring those type of views.
And same with my opponent, Chris Mays.
But, you know, look at every single city that's implemented ending cash bail, Charlie.
It's literally turned those cities into less safe, a lot less safe.
And what you're seeing right now is it turns them into Gotham and chaos and misery.
So New York, Portland, San Francisco, Cisco, every single city that's actually implemented these policies have turned them to hellholes.
So I don't know why Illinois wants to bring that on, but I think this is exactly why there's going to be a huge push on November 8th.
Look at even New York's in play, Charlie.
I just saw that poll, Trafalgar poll today that actually had Lee Zeldin up.
And even looking at Henry, Michael Henry, he's running against Letitia James, who's a crooked attorney general in New York.
I mean, he's right on the cuss.
I'm hoping they have a red wave in New York.
All across the country, we need to elect Republicans up and down the ballot.
Yeah, that's well said.
I want to play another piece of tape here.
This is speaking of New York.
Kathy Hochle claims it's a conspiracy that violent crime is rising.
Play cut two.
They have this conspiracy going all across America to try and convince people that in Democratic states, they're not as safe.
Well, guess what?
They're also not only election deniers, they're data deniers.
The data shows that shootings and murders are down in our state by 15%, even in New York City, down 20% on Long Island, where Lee Zeldon comes from.
And it's the Republican states where they have almost no restrictions on guns.
Because of the abundance of guns, people are killing each other with more frequency.
The safer places are the Democratic states.
Abe, your thoughts?
Yeah, she doesn't know what she's talking about, Charlie.
I mean, even look at liberal San Francisco got rid of their radical George Soros prosecutor, Chessa Boudin, in June.
And you know, that was primarily led by Asian Americans, Charlie.
You know, that's what it is.
It's these, you know, people all around.
We're waking up and we're bringing so many different groups to the Republican Party right now.
You have Hispanics coming out in record numbers, Asian Americans.
So that's what I'm so excited for right now.
This new Republican Party is a party for all Americans because we're sick and tired of what the liberal academic elites up in New York want to shove down our throats.
That's right.
What is your website, Abe, for people to support you?
Abeforag.com, AbeForAG.com, and look forward to seeing you Saturday.
I believe you got a dog walk on there, Charlie.
It's going to be great.
We're doing a big super Saturday.
It's TPACTION.com.
It's our last of the year.
Turning Point Action has been doing a lot of that.
Abe, I think you're going to win.
You're looking great.
And so keep it up.
Thanks, Abe.
Thank you, Charlie.
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I want to play some pieces of tape here.
Let's go to cut 38 about the DHS disinformation operation.
It's extraordinary.
Play cut 38.
Microsoft executive texts Jen Easterly, the top disinfo director at DHS, appointed by Biden, basically saying the government needs to get the private sector needs to get more comfortable with the government.
They're closely collaborating on reports talking about the expanded role for DHS in centering a really broad collection of topic areas of policy and political topics.
A broad collection of topics that they are censoring.
Let's go to Cut 43.
Laura Ingram talks to Lee Fang, PlayCut 43.
Now, one of the more remarkable findings from investigative journalist Lee Fang, who uncovered this, was that Facebook and Twitter created special portals for the government to rapidly request takedowns of content.
And how did DHS justify all of this?
Well, they argued that, of course, false information is a source of radicalization and violence.
In other words, it's license to censor their political opponents.
To censor their political opponents.
Censorship and the ability to determine what you can say, what you can think, is operative for the Uniparty.
For the Democrats that are running our country, they know that if we have dialogue and discussion, this is exactly why they must shut us up when we go to college campuses.
When we go to college campuses, this is why they must attack us as much as they do.
This is why they must try to assail our students.
Speech is a direct threat to them.
Let's have it out.
Let's have the debate.
Let's have dialogue.
Let's have disagreement.
No, no, no, they don't like any of that.
Debate, dialogue, disagreement, the exploration of truth.
Dialogue through reason, through the ability to have rational speech.
But there are some things that they're not able to censor, which is a very, very smart point.
You can't censor the price of gas.
You can't censor inflation.
And you can't censor crime.
You can censor the southern border.
They've tried a good job of that, but even they can't censor fentanyl.
They can't censor suicide.
And they can't censor the fact that kids can't read anymore.
In some ways, you could frame this midterm election as the midterm election that has pierced the veil of censorship because their carnage on society has been so immense that they're not able to cover it up.
Censoring Inflation And Crime00:15:12
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Joining us now is Rob Collins from Coin.
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Give us the update from Coin.
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The great thing about credit card businesses is that we don't need cardboard or labor or anything.
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And so, you know, we had an unbelievable summer.
The people who stepped forward and said, I really believe in the vision, you know, a conservative credit card that will not only push back and organize conservative commerce to have a voice in every boardroom in America and reorient boardrooms in America, but also build up the conservative movement with charitable donations to great conservative causes.
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And like I said, I spent the summer raising money and we've had an unbelievable success.
And every day our membership goes up, the number of cards that are out in circulation continues to grow.
We're doing a big push right after the election because I know everyone's really focused on the elections, but our customers are.
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But we're not political.
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So if some of our audience is on a wait list, you guys are working through that, right?
Because we get an email every so often.
Is that right?
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I love it.
And in addition to your expertise in that world, really, your whole career has been on election forecasting and deploying a lot of capital to help win back majorities, which is really what I want to spend some of our time today.
And so let's talk about the general trend.
Where do you think we are?
You're one of the few people that thinks that Mastriano can win in Pennsylvania.
You think that one can kind of be, you know, stolen from the Democrats.
Give us kind of a general macro health of the race, and then we'll go through some of the specifics.
Sure.
You were kind enough to have me on, I think, in early July.
And I think I was the lone voice in the wilderness saying you were the most bullish guy.
And I got a bunch of phone calls to my friends saying, man, you just embarrassed yourself on Charlie Kirk.
It's going to be a terrible year.
It's going to be a ripple.
And I said, no, a president this unpopular.
People saying they're considering the Republicans and the issue sets.
Yes, we talked a lot about life over the summer, but what do people really care about?
Crime, the economy, inflation.
I mean, I know the DC liberals don't care if the cost of bacon triples, but a lot of folks who vote Republican or would consider voting Republican really do.
And that's why I think Pennsylvania is a really interesting state.
It's hard to poll.
A lot of height, you know, it's hard to get the right demographics.
And, you know, it's a state that Biden did the worst in when you look at the real battleground states.
And, you know, I think Oz has caught fire, especially since the debate.
Fetterman, before he got sick, was a really great candidate.
He just hasn't recovered.
And we all wish him well, but he just hasn't recovered to the place where he can really sustain the campaign.
So, I think that's a race where you might see the power behind Oz, the power and excitement behind the House races, and the fact that the left has done everything they can to demonize Mastriano, and he continues to move in the polls.
I know it doesn't look great now, but I think that race closes.
I think there's a big election day turnout, and we're going to do really, really well there.
And across the country, I mean, I just haven't believed it since March of this year.
So, let's go through some of the other races that you have eyes on.
I mean, you feel good about the fundamentals, right?
Ron Johnson, JD Vance, Ted Budd.
You think those are almost no-brainers.
Is that probably fair to say?
You know, everyone's got to work hard.
We got to fund them.
We got to knock doors.
Everyone who's got time this weekend call your campaigns and say, go, go, go.
But I feel really good about those races.
Those are states that have been trending Republican in recent years, and they're good candidates in the right states.
So then let's go to kind of that next level, which is the flips.
So you mentioned Pennsylvania.
It's not a flip, but that's, for all intents and purposes, it feels like Fetterman's an incumbent of how hard Oz has had to campaign, how much money he's had to raise.
So what do you think about Georgia, Arizona?
That tandem right there?
I think Georgia is looking really great.
I know a lot of folks are saying that's going to a runoff.
I just feel that Herschel Walker has really executed his campaign.
Folks know him.
They know him well.
And they trust him.
I think his message has been great.
And, you know, Georgia is going to look like Georgia of 2014, 16, and 18, and less like the Georgia of 2020.
Do you think that's because of a Trump thing?
Is that your opinion?
On Georgia, I do.
I think, you know, Georgia, for some reason, it was anomalous for a southern state with regards to Trump.
But I think Herschel Walker has really put together a great campaign.
And Biden's doing really poorly there.
I mean, the fact of the matter is, it's hard to run six points ahead or more of the president.
And that's why you're seeing a lot of these Democratic races are hitting 45, 46, 47, and they just leveled out.
That's interesting.
And they just can't get any higher.
So is that historically kind of just a rule?
Like you can't, there's a ceiling to how unpopular the president is and how a Democrat candidate is able or a Republican candidate is able to kind of run in relation.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
So in 2014, the Democrats, Democratic candidates ran five and a half points ahead of Obama.
In 2018, Republican candidates ran about three and a half points ahead of Trump.
So it's hard.
If you're of the same party, it's hard.
Just the math starts to work against you, especially this late.
You know, the left took their best shots that they could at our candidates and they just didn't stick.
The American people are ready for change.
Midterms are about how we're doing right now.
And people aren't happy.
People think we're going in the wrong direction.
Yes.
And so then Arizona, what's your thought there?
I mean, that's a tough race with Mark Kelly.
What do you think man, that was left for dead, remember?
Yeah, I know.
And then Carrie Lake caught fire.
She's carrying the whole ticket.
Carrie could win by 10 points.
I don't think she will, but she could.
It's conceivable.
I mean, so I think, you know, we didn't talk about Kemp, but Kemp in Georgia and Lake, I think, helped pull up some of, you know, it's hard to beat income.
It's hard.
And I think they pull up our Senate races.
And yeah, remember in August, Masters was dead man walking and no one cared.
Everyone was in and out and there's no money, but he's put together a heck of an effort.
Arizona wants to go red this year.
Yes, it does.
Obviously, it was very close in the last presidential and it's a historically unpopular president.
It just really works against him.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I love the way you put that.
Arizona wants to go red.
I live here, so I'm really in support of that.
And the early voting numbers are looking good.
So that's that next band, right?
So then let's go to the other.
Oh, so Nevada, that's probably, you feel good about Laxalt?
Laxalt's name brand.
They know him.
He's done a good job.
Cortez Mastos hasn't really burrowed into that state.
She's running for reelection for the first time.
And Nevada is a quirky state.
It can surprise you, but in 2018, it had the most Republicans that's ever elected statewide.
So that's another state that can go bright red at the right conditions.
And so, yeah, I think everyone feels really good about Laxall that I'm included in that.
Yeah.
So then let's go to that next band where it starts to get fun, right?
Which is the shocker sleeper races: New Hampshire, Connecticut, Colorado, Washington.
Rank those, and then we'll get to some of the gubernatorial, just from the Senate perspective.
Yeah, I think let me say, I'll go Colorado, Washington.
Connecticut, New Hampshire.
Connecticut is the long, long, long Hail Mary.
If that race is not called by midnight, we're having a very good night.
New Hampshire.
Yeah, I mean, New Hampshire is really kind of quirky.
Yeah.
Oh, Connecticut.
Yeah, yeah.
Connecticut.
Have a Republican governor.
He's very popular.
But yeah, that is a race that I think would really shock the world if that flipped.
You know, New Hampshire, a lot of people who commute into Boston.
It's the most, you know, live in one state, work in another state in the union.
So it is a different state.
It's kind of an interesting state, but a state that will go for a Republican.
Sununu's going to win by a lot.
He's done a great job.
So he may help pull up.
And it's a race that hasn't been on a lot of people's radar screen, but I think our candidate is really strong.
And Hassan, just first time running for reelection and hasn't really made a name for herself.
Colorado, the debate said it all.
I mean, Ben has been there forever, hasn't passed any major legislation, has been kind of a placeholder for the state.
You know, Colorado can't figure out if it's Kansas or California.
So it is kind of a tough state to figure out the future of where it's going to go.
But, you know, the campaign has been really good there.
And, you know, I just, I think that's a state to really keep an eye on.
And Washington State, I don't want to, I'm nervous about anything north of California.
I get a little anxious because they're hard to pull.
They're quirky races.
I feel really good about Smiley, though.
I mean, I think she's a great candidate, isn't she?
I mean, she's running a great race.
She's running a great race.
She fits the state.
She's getting funded.
People are investing money both on the outside and the inside, which is rare for a state up there.
Usually they're great candidates, tremendous experience resume, but they don't get the funding.
I got handed a poll this morning from a friend, and 8% of the people are undecided in that race.
It's a tide race.
Is that a lot for our audience at this point?
Is eight a lot a week out from the election?
For a West Coast, you know, they don't read the paper every day.
They're not into politics, like say a South Dakota, Kansas, you know, Indiana, where they're really in.
So that's not true.
That's not like anomalous, but it is relatively high for an incumbent who's running for, you know, another term has been there 30 years.
So it is weird that there are so many people who are on the fence.
And number one issues are crime and spending, which have to favor Smiley.
That people, when that, when that, when that, you know, curtain closes and they have to say, do I want to keep going in the same way or do I want to make a change?
Do I want another vote for President Biden or do I want someone who's going to say, no, let's go a different direction?
That's got to help.
80% of the people in Washington state think the country's on the wrong track.
80%.
All right.
And that's a deep blue state.
Biden won that state, I think, by 19, just to put it in perspective.
You pull up a huge upset there.
Tiffany's running a great race.
So, Rob, you got to help me out with something, which is, I'm getting a lot of texts.
I'm sure you are as well.
Of people asking me if they can help deploy capital before a week out from the election, right?
Can we give the turning point back and all this?
Why is it that some Republican donors are just like last minute late?
Is there something in that?
Is it, I mean, maybe you have insight into this, maybe not.
The Democrats seemed like they had all their funding lined up in February, and now we're seeing these last-minute commitments.
Just share some wisdom.
I'm just curious.
Well, it's like it's like building coin.
Their folks are much more, A, a lot of their folks didn't earn their money, so they don't mind giving it away.
That's a really good point.
But also, our folks, they're conservative, so they want to weigh and measure and cut, you know, measure twice.
No, I'm not saying it in a negative way.
I just find it interesting because I mean, I'm, I think there's going to be a deluge of money this last week.
And in some ways, I'm like, man, in September, that would have been a little bit more helpful, right?
I mean, better late than never.
Yes, it is always frustrating.
The Democrats win the summer because their donors cut big checks early.
That's right.
And there's also a wisdom to our donors because they know if they cut a check in February, politicians are going to come back in September and ask for more money.
That's right.
So they're wiser than they are, but it's not great spending.
If Blake could have had a little more air support early to get to parody on television, I think it would have been a more competitive race early.
But it's within striking distance now.
Okay, so let's go.
Any other sleeper races you have an eye on that are just shock the world type races?
Well, I know this is going to sound crazy.
I don't, but we love crazy here.
Are you kidding me?
We love that.
I'm interested.
There's three races I've had my eye on that I just think in 2014, we almost knocked off the vaunted Mark Warner in Virginia by such a close race.
And no, it was on no one's radar screen other than we had feelings.
You know, I'm telling you, I know I sound like a crazy person.
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I'm curious about Duckworth.
I just wonder if that's going to be a race that like super like she wins by like two points.
And everyone's like, oh, what happened there?
Because it's a state Biden won by 17, but it's just moving in the wrong direction.
And then also I look at Vermont.
You know, I'll throw it out there.
It's, it's, it's a sister state of New Hampshire, has a Republican governor.
And I just, I don't know, sometimes I'm lucky enough that I get away from the big urban areas.
And when I talk to folks, they're not mad.
They're just kind of worn down and they don't like the prices.
Everything's hard to get.
It's expensive.
It's slow.
And they just feel like, what's going on?
Yep.
You know, they're not, they want to change.
They just want, and not like revolutionary change.
They're just like, this guy doesn't have it.
He's not, he's not doing the job.
That's right.
And he needs people to keep an eye on him.
Man, Illinois, if Duckworth gets with you, I know I'm a crazy point.
I think that, I mean, I'm from Illinois and I love Illinois.
And boy, that would be something to see.
I don't even know who I'm not saying we're going to win.
I think we're going to wake up and be like, holy cow, that was a close race.
And then you think of, man, if we would have spent a little bit more there.
I mean, do you think you think Darren Bailey can beat J.B. Pritzker?
He's Southern Illinois, so he's got a boulder to push uphill.
That's right.
He says, tough to crack.
It's just when you're going against a billionaire who says, I'll put whatever I have into the race.
It's just, it is a boulder to push uphill.
But, you know, I just hear anecdotally from folks on the ground in Illinois that it's just a weird time and that, you know, they're going to gain seats in the state Senate.
You know, they're going to gain seats across the map.
And the Republicans are getting stronger.
The question is, how high are the sea walls in that state?
So yeah, just, you know, like I said, I just spent some time just trying to find those outlier races because I think it's going to be, you know, really great night.
So other governor races, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, kind of talk about some of these other governor races that could flip.
And then, of course, the one that is fascinating the country, the two coasts, New York and Oregon.
I mean, what is going on?
I know that's when you sit there and say, like, after I just said something crazy, like, how can you trust this guy?
But then you say, let's talk about New York and Oregon governor faces.
So I hope you people, I am threading this together with like a logical.
I think things are a lot worse.
I mean, the same people who said Trump was down nine points for 11 straight months are telling us that these races are close.
So just kind of factor that in as you kind of see these polls.
Listen, I think of the three, the one that the Dems hold probably is Minnesota.
I mean, for all the problems in Minneapolis, those Minnesotans, I love them.
I know tons of them.
They just don't like.
They just can't handle Republicans.
I know.
There's something about it.
It's like a temperament thing.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know what it is.
Like it's like it's like in the water up there.
If we could just get 5,000 of the lakes back, we might actually flip that state.
But no, Michigan and Penn, I'm sorry, you said Michigan and Wisconsin.
I feel really good about.
I talked to a congressman from Michigan who was really down on that, the governor's race, and he's totally turned it around.
He's like, I just think, you know, the energy is right.
The message is right.
And, you know, I think Whitmer spent a little more time talking to national audiences and polishing her resume for something else that, you know, she's gotten a little away from her people, had some hypocrisy issues.
And then New York, I'm a Syracuse boy.
So Pataki is kind of a guy I grew up with and we miss our Republican.
Yeah, that's right.
And Lee Zeldon's a great candidate.
He's had the funding.
And yeah, I think that's a turnout race.
And I think Schumer is going to not, he's not going to do his usual double digit wins.
I think he's going to be single digit and that's not going to help the governor up there even come close.
So I still think it's a boulder to push uphill, but I think we're going to be talking about New York in this next week a lot more.
And just the violence you're seeing in New York City is just reminding the upstaters that, you know, a lot of things are going in the wrong direction in New York.
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