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Oct. 13, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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The Fentanyl Crisis Consuming the Country with Sheriff Lamb and Kash Patel
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Cartels Control The Border 00:08:41
Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Kash Patel joins us to talk about the latest from the Igor Danchenko case.
And Sheriff Mark Lamb is with us to talk about what is happening on the southern border and to promote our new piece from Turning Point USA, Border Battle, that you guys can find at salemnow.com.
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The border is completely and totally wide open.
And for quite some time, we've been talking about how the American southern border, the U.S. southern border, is being invaded by the cartels, who are completely and totally pure evil.
I believe over 5 million people have passed across the southern border since Biden has become president.
Over 2 million people in the last year.
Our sovereignty is completely and totally at stake.
And, you know, for some people, they say, well, you know, we need mass amnesty for everybody here.
And I say, that's interesting.
So you're making an excuse for one law.
What other laws do you want to make excuses for?
And I refuse to call these people immigrants.
They are line cutters, border jumpers.
They are cheaters to come into the American system.
And as far as I'm concerned, every day they stay in America, they're continually breaking our laws.
You break into someone's country or home and you just keep staying there.
We should somehow feel sorry for those people.
And they say they're economic migrants.
No, they're not.
They're thieves.
They're stealing on the American system because they broke into our country.
They know that what they're doing is wrong, by the way.
It's immoral.
And then you know, have these charities that come out and try to help them.
Like, well, we must have a heart for them.
Yeah, have a heart for them by sending them back to their country.
It's not that hard.
I don't have to overthink it.
Anyway, so Turning Point USA, we started a new project called Border Battle.
It's a great project.
And we've been working on it for over nine months.
And we had a big part of it is kind of our time with Sheriff Mark Lamb, who's just awesome.
And it's an education project brought to you by Turning Point USA to educate you about what's actually happening on the American southern border.
And you guys can check it out at salemnow.com.
Let's watch the trailer 61.
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And this will get worse before it gets better, but that this issue is absolutely fixable.
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It's informative.
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And you're going to walk away from it with a lot of information and hopefully some clarity on the subject of the border.
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Joining us now is one of the stars of the film, Sheriff Mark Lamb.
Mark, welcome to the business.
You say in the documentary that the, thank you, the, that you say in the documentary that the cartel is pure evil.
Tell us more about that.
Absolutely, Charlie.
And thank you for doing this project, by the way.
I think that more Americans, this is the only way we're going to really let Americans know what's going on out there.
But the cartels are pure evil because they have zero regard for human life.
Whether it's abusing people that these open border policies are bringing to the doorsteps of the cartels, whether they're enslaving those people or killing American citizens with fentanyl or ruining our economy, whatever it is, the cartel could care less as long as they're making money and gaining in power.
And that is why they are pure evil.
Look, I believe that freedom is next to godliness.
And if you take away somebody's freedom, whether it is through enslavement or whether it is through enslavement through the drugs like fentanyl, you are doing the opposite of that, which makes you pure evil.
Yeah, so can you talk about how the cartel runs the southern border?
This is something that a lot of people that do not live in border states quite understand.
Can you talk about how they humans smuggle for profit and for cash?
And that we're dealing with a very sophisticated organization of the cartel that is not just, you know, kind of some typical gangbangers.
You know, these are people that really understand the intricacies of logistics and military technology.
And we talk about it all throughout the documentary, Border Battle.
Talk to us about how the cartel controls the border.
I think it's very important for our audience to understand.
Well, they control it through violence first and foremost.
I mean, that is the way that they gain this territory.
And they've done it here in America.
It's not just in Mexico.
They have their own routes right here in America, right through counties like mine that they, in essence, control.
The Bureau of Land Management, which is our federal government, has put up signs saying travel caution.
Smugglers may be encountered in this area.
To me, that's like our government giving up and saying, look, we've just kind of conceded this area to the Mexican cartels.
And what they use is, like I said, they use violence and fear to intimidate their people.
Now, what we've seen is a 2,000% increase in what was already a very profitable business for them.
It is even more profitable now.
But what most Americans don't realize, we all know that the cartels traffic drugs into America, but do they know the extent of the human trafficking that is going on into America?
And these open border policies we're seeing now are bringing, like I said, the clientele right to the doorstep of these cartels.
And they're charging $5,000, $6,000 a person.
They have so much cash on hand.
I heard they're making $200 million a week right now with the amount of people showing up and paying them cash to come over to America.
So that's their main state of operations is trafficking humans, trafficking drugs, and they're going to do it at all costs.
And like you said, Charlie, they have so much money that they can hire the brightest and best minds out there to ensure that their product is arrived safely at its location.
Yeah, the New York Times says smuggling migrants at the border, now a billion-dollar business.
We talk about this in our film, Border Battle.
Mark, why don't more of our leaders talk about how the cartel is just printing money off of this?
Where is Mark Kelly, for example?
Why is Mark Kelly, who is the senator from Arizona for our national audience, why is he ignoring the fact that millions of people are being illegally smuggled for cash across our southern border?
Isn't that slavery?
Yes, it is.
This is an uncomfortable topic for a lot of Americans, but I will tell you, slavery has never been more prolific in America.
The cartels are enslaving people every day.
They have 300,000 people showing up at the border every month that they can enslave.
How many times can I sell you a pill?
You'll hear this in the show once.
How many times can they sell you a woman or a child over and over and over again?
And so it boggles my mind as well, Charlie, that people like Senator Kelly are not standing up.
Fentanyl Destroys Communities 00:06:24
He and I had a very frank conversation six, eight months ago.
And I said, I need you to be vocal against this government to tell them how wrong this is because you, Senator Kelly, know firsthand just what is going on here in Arizona.
And your indifference or silence on this matter makes you complicit in it.
So we had a very frank conversation.
He will pretend like he cares only because he wants your vote.
But I will tell any voters out there on the fence, he doesn't care one bit.
He has purposely turned a blind eye to it, just like this administration.
And to answer your question, Charlie, they're scared.
They're scared to say and speak out because of the way that this administration has gone after people or the way liberals and the left and the progressive attack you if your voice is contrary to theirs.
And so most of them would rather sit in the corner and be quiet and be cowards.
That's exactly right, Sheriff Mark Lamb.
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Mark, let me ask you, what is the solution to this?
Because I think when you watch the Border Battle series, people will learn how bad it is, but also how solvable it is.
How do we fix this invasion happening on our southern border?
Well, Charlie, the most simple thing to do is go back to the Trump-era policies that we were under when this administration change occurred.
We know that those were successful just by the mere numbers.
Really, they need to put the pride aside, go back to those.
Now, we've got to build on that.
We've got to continue to finish the wall.
We've got to make sure that Border Patrol, ICE agents, CBP agents feel in emboldened to do their job.
You've got to do a hard shutdown on this border.
The only way we're going to stop the flow of fentanyl and human beings being trafficked into this country for slavery oftentimes, the only way we're going to stop that is do a hard shutdown on this border.
Watching your live thing, you talk about getting people out of this country.
We have to send a message that it's not okay to break our laws, and we're going to have to really make some hard decisions.
And those are not easy things to do.
Now, what we cannot do is do things like pass up on 18,000 Border Patrol agents, but fund 87,000 IRS agents when we only have 386 ICE agents in the entire state of Arizona.
So our ability to remove people that have come into this country illegally, even criminals, is very handicapped just because of that.
Unbelievable.
Can you repeat that number again?
How many ICE agents are in the state of Arizona?
386.
You know, that includes your hierarchy, you know, your supervisors.
So how many ground level guys do you actually have?
Only 386 in the entire state of Arizona.
And they're talking about putting 87,000 IRS agents.
For all of you American people, that should tell you they do not care about your security nor your border.
They only want your money.
Unbelievable.
It is so solvable and it's such an incredible crisis.
Really quick, Mark, can you talk about the damage fentanyl is doing to communities across the country made possible thanks to Democrats keeping our border wide open?
Absolutely.
And that is the cause, Charlie, because it's coming through the southern border.
Fentanyl has become the leading cause of death of Americans amongst the ages of 18 to 45.
And yet it's over 107,000 people last year.
I guarantee that number is going to be far superior to that this year.
And I haven't heard a single word from this president or his administration.
I don't hear anything from the mainstream media.
And they don't want to address it because that would expose their inefficiencies and the problems with their open border policy.
So they really don't want to talk about it.
And it's shameful that they're not because the families of these loved ones who are being poisoned across this country deserve to be treated better.
It is unbelievable how they've just turned their backs on the American people in that sense.
Charlie, I'm going to give you some statistics for Arizona because you don't just have to ingest this drug to make it lethal for you.
You just have to be in the vicinity of it.
In Arizona last year, 33 children died from fentanyl poisonings, seven under the age of one.
If that statistic alone doesn't get all of these politicians unelected, then I don't know what to do.
Maybe our moral compass is much more broken than I thought.
But the fentanyl crisis is going to bring America to its knees.
And we talk a lot about it in Border Battle.
They did a really good job of really showing the American people just how it impacts American families.
And thank you again, Charlie, for really having the guts and using your resources to put this out there.
I can't thank you enough.
Well, thank you.
We deeply appreciate that.
And it's going very well.
You were very generous with your time.
It's border battles, salemnow.com.
Sheriff Mark Lamb guides us through it from the Arizona perspective.
And it is an all-out invasion, modern-day slave trade.
And yes, the left does not care at all.
Sheriff Mark Lamb, thank you so much.
Thank you, Charlie.
God bless.
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Kash Patel.
Cash is a great American.
Honored to call him a friend.
Cash, welcome back to the program.
I have to be honest, I'm not following this Igor Danchenko case closely.
Remind us who he is and the significance of this.
And do you still believe in John Durham?
Hey, Charlie, it's great to be back with you.
Thanks so much for having me on again.
Yeah, so Igor Danchenkov, the short story is he was Christopher Steele's number one source for the false dossier, meaning that he was the one that peddled the false information to Steele, who was getting paid by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the FBI for being an FBI informant.
But what we learned last week was that Danchenko himself, and this even floored me, the guy who did Russia Gate, was a paid informant for the FBI for three plus years after they fired Christopher Steele.
So they used their corruption, corrupt activities, and their Confidential Human Source Network to cover up their own arrogance, to cover up their own corrupt actions.
And what did we learn yesterday in day one of the trial?
Not only that, but we learned that the FBI offered up to a million dollars for Christopher Steele to go and corroborate the false information in October of 2016.
That means they knew it was false before they went to an FBI FISA court, and they did it anyway, and they were willing to pay a taxpayer-funded bounty to lie to a federal court.
I mean, this is incredible.
And so the significance of this is that the federal government is paying for the infiltration of political opponents.
I mean, Cash, just when you think it doesn't get any worse, just when you think it can't get any worse, we learn this.
And so, what exactly is going?
What do you expect to come out of this trial?
Is this going to be another swing and a miss?
I don't think so because we're out in Virginia and we're not in D.C., thankfully.
So, we've got a much better jury pool out there, seem to have a much smarter judge.
And also, he's charged, he, Danchenko, is charged with five counts versus one count.
So, there's five separate felonies he's charged with.
So, the jury would have to give him an entire pass on everything.
And what the defense has basically said is, yes, their client, Danchenko, lied.
So, they've admitted half the case, but they're saying, oh, it wasn't a big deal.
Nothing to see here.
Sort of this thing we call materiality under the law.
They're saying it's not material.
It's not a big deal.
It didn't change anything.
And what John Durham is saying is, you literally lied to the FBI five separate times about supposedly an investigation.
They say they were running above board at the time, but you were funneling complete false information.
You then became a source of the FBI, and now you're being prosecuted by a special counsel for breaking the law while you were a paid government informant.
I mean, I don't know how much more corrupt it can get, but John Durham is going to at least lay out all this information.
But that million-dollar offer to Christopher Steele in October of 2016, just before the first FISA warrant went up, proves that James Comey and company lied to the world when they said we had verified all the relevant information in that application in the Steele dossier.
They had offered a million reasons for the world to believe a million more of their lies.
So there's a politico article that says Danchenko trial opens, expected to be last of prosecutors probe.
Is that really it?
This is it for Durham.
Cash, all this buildup, all of this drama for a suspect acquittal.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You know, I've been big on John Durham.
I hope it's not his last one.
I don't know what the sourcing is.
I have no inside information on it.
But he's trying this case himself.
He's actually in the courtroom doing the prosecuting, which is a rarity.
So that's interesting.
But I really hope not.
You know this.
I've been on your show a lot, and I've gone big on John Durham in the past.
And I just hope that this is not the last one, because you're right.
It would be a tragic end to hold almost no one at the mid-levels is where I wanted to go accountable.
Strzoks, the Pages, the McCabes and company.
And if this is where it ends, then we're going to have to just go in and do it ourselves in 24, but that's going to be too late, as you and I have talked about.
Yeah, I mean, so we impeached a president for a bunch of lies twice, and then the FBI now admits, you know, basically that they can't prove.
I mean, so I'm just, let me just, I'm really curious.
It's not for a lack of evidence, Cash, right?
We have the evidence.
Is it just a lack of will or Durham is afraid to lose?
What's going on?
Well, remember, the one man that John Durham has to be controlled by by the law is Merrick Garland.
And we've seen Merrick Garland, as I refer to these people now corrupted at the top levels of government, government gangsters, is the most politically motivated attorney general in the history of the United States.
And you can just see this from all his recent actions that you and I have talked about extensively.
So John Durham reports to Merrick Garland, and if Merrick Garland doesn't give him the permission to continue prosecuting, then John Durham doesn't have the ability to do so.
So if that's the case, then we need to find that out.
If he was shut down by a politically active attorney general from exposing more of their own corruption, and that'll that'll, you know, I mean, the FBI and DOJ have to be completely overhauled as it is.
But if we come to find that out after we have midterm victory here, and that's what happens, then, you know, I don't know that the faith in these institutions can be restored anytime soon.
Yeah, I'm afraid you're right.
And so I just, I know so many people in our audience are waiting, you know, for some form of justice.
And I just don't think we're ever going to see it with Peter Strzzok or Lisa Page or any of these people, unfortunately.
I just don't think they're ever going to be held accountable.
And so, you know, the FACE Act makes it a federal crime to use force, the threat of force or physical obstruction to prevent individuals from obtaining or providing reproductive health care services.
I think it's widely being misapplied.
Cash, so let me get this straight.
If you spy on a president and create a plot against a president, you could walk freely, but you go outside of a liberal life center and sing hymns and you're going to be raided by the FBI.
How does that one work?
Yeah, that's the two-tier system of justice that this administration under Merrick Garland and Chris Ray has created for the American people.
They are politically targeting individuals instead of targeting individuals for crimes.
They are manufacturing crimes and committing, I think, unlawful activities at the DOJ and FBI.
But as you outlined, this is a two-tier system of justice that they have basically built single-handedly in modern day America, which was never ever supposed to have that occur.
And I get your and my and everybody else's outrage on this because it is destroying America's ability to trust its law enforcement.
Yeah, I just see it, you know, time and time again.
So what can the new Congress possibly do, Cash, in this regard?
I mean, criminal referrals obviously do nothing.
Can the new Congress do anything about this or is just kind of Russia Gate going to go into the memory and nothing's going to happen?
Well, the new Congress can do what Devin and I did when we ran Russia Gate, which is stand up a committee to at least educate the world on what actually happened and get the truth out.
I know it's not the form of accountability that people are going to want to see with terms of prosecutions.
And I get that.
Me and the former National Security Prosecutor certainly gets that.
But as the guy who ran Russia Gate, at least Congress's job is to be able to get the information out to the American public and the world as to what happened.
They can do that because we have seen how rogue committees like the Unselect Committee on January 6th abuses congressional subpoena power.
But you've seen the power that it has to produce documentation and witnesses when necessary.
So I hope our leaders, when we send them there, great guys like Blake Masters in Arizona and then Adam Laxalt in Nevada, where we all live out west there, folks like that are going to have to show up in strength to get and demand the documents and they be released.
So we, at least amongst ourselves, can have accountability at the voting blocks where it matters.
Yeah, I mean, I suppose that's it.
I mean, can state attorney generals do anything?
We talked about local sheriffs, cash, right?
I mean, is there any path forward there for justice?
Or what's your thoughts on that?
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, I was just out in Arizona and Nevada with President Trump for the rallies last weekend.
And that's the very concept we brought up.
It said if Washington, D.C. is not willing to act, then the state attorney general can act.
And Hunter Biden's laptop is a perfect example.
It's not as if he only committed a federal crime, he committed multiple crimes in multiple states.
And there's no reason that attorney generals in those respective states can't come to the fold and bring those charges immediately.
And I even recommended that they look into that if the federal government comes up short or gives him a sweetheart deal.
And because I'll remind everybody that, you know, this whole double jeopardy thing, you can technically prosecute someone for the same crimes in state and federal court.
It is actually legal.
And so if they want to play that game, then it's up to us to elect state AGs like Abe Hamada out in Arizona who are going to get the job done.
And then when our federal government fails, like you pointedly asserted the other week, the states need to act.
And the states need to step up and act.
You got a new book here, Cash.
Tell us about it.
We talked about it before.
The Plot Against the King, 2000 Mules.
Tell us about it.
Yeah, thanks so much.
PlotAgainsttheking.com.
So it's a series that President Trump launched for me.
The first book, Plot Against the King, was Russia Gate.
I'm actually in Nashville right now at the launch party with John Rich of Big and Rich for Truth Social and The Plot Against the King, 2000 Mules.
I collaborated with Dinesh D'Souza to teach our kids and youth and young adults about election integrity and how if there's 100,000 people in the land and 200,000 votes, something's wrong.
And the media went nuts, but it's okay to teach our children about facts and history and how an election was rigged with things like Hunter Biden's laptop.
So we said it in medieval times again.
And yes, we have Adam Schiff being peed on by a friendly dog.
And of course, we have Glowing Coo.
So I think everybody's going to love it.
PlotAgainsttheking.com.
We're having a great time here in Nashville with John Rich and company, Aaron Lewis, and so many other greats are loving the book.
And it's also on Truth Social.
And President Trump wants to put it in every house and every library in America.
So, you know, hopefully you guys can help us do that.
That's our mission these days.
Final question here, Cash.
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What's the latest on the Mar-a-Lago raid that seems to not be primary focus after the Department of Justice decided to unconstitutionally raid the home of a former president?
What's the latest on that entire saga?
Well, yeah, you're not going to love this answer.
So, you know, I'm not really publicly talking about that right now until we get, we're working on some things with the former president.
So we've agreed to just leave it there for now.
Well, fair enough.
All right, Kash Patel.
Thanks so much.
See you soon.
Thanks, Sarah.
Bye.
What is happening with John Fetterman, who is running for the Senate race in Pennsylvania, should make all of you the biggest Dr. Oz fans on the planet?
John Fetterman, he is, if he was okay health-wise, his ideas are completely and totally wacky, but it's no longer a joke.
John Fetterman simply cannot answer questions.
John Fetterman cannot, not only can he not answer questions, he can't even understand the words of the questions that are being asked to him.
So, John Fetterman sat down with NBC News, and he had to have closed captioning in front of him to be able to understand what was being said to him.
He cannot understand words that are being said to him.
And this is, I'm not trivializing this.
I'm not trying to be cruel.
John Fetterman cannot become a U.S. Senator.
He does not have the health or the ability.
He had a stroke.
That's a sad thing.
You are not able to serve in the U.S. Senate.
That should be a disqualifying aspect.
And if you live in Pennsylvania, if you know someone that lives in Pennsylvania, you need to send them this segment.
You need to send them these clips and you need to say, it's better.
If you don't like Dr. Roz, just don't vote for Fetterman.
You are voting for someone that will not be able to listen to constituents, listen to questions.
He'll be totally controlled.
How is this race even close?
Well, that's a separate issue.
Okay.
So let's go to Cut 57 of his interview in NBC News.
Cut 57.
Politicians should realize that disclosing limited information about their health can make it more of an issue than full transparency.
I know you're tired of answering these questions.
Don't you think that if you just released those records and answered those calls, it would be easier to put this to bed?
Once I said, I believe that having this our doctors saying that we're fit to do it and I have demonstrated my abilities and where I'm at.
He's looking at a closed captioning screen when he's answering these questions.
Is someone feeding him lines?
He's reading off a teleprompter.
This guy makes Joe Biden look sentient.
Cut 56.
Here's a montage of his gaffes.
Play Cut 56.
Eagles are so much better than Eagles.
I'm doing fantastic.
And it's not about kicking balls in the authority or anything.
And make sure you take advantage of this amazing opportunity to the only thing you have, Stan, to lose is your record.
What is wrong with demanding for an easy, safe kind of their income?
A path to a safe place for them to win.
He can't understand voices.
It's a very serious thing.
You probably shouldn't be a U.S. senator if you can't understand voices.
Cut 55, NBC presses a little bit more.
Play Cut 55.
In terms of any symptoms related to the stroke or any other conditions, you know, you hadn't disclosed the AFib you were diagnosed with five years ago.
Is there anything else that is in your health record?
Any other conditions or symptoms that you have not told voters about?
As far as I know, yeah.
As far as you know, there's nothing else.
Yeah, I don't think so.
All right.
And Cut 46 has the reporter saying that they had a hard time understanding any of the conversation.
Federal man couldn't understand anything that was happening.
Play Cut 46.
We had a monitor set up so that he could read my questions because he still has lingering auditory processing issues as a result of the stroke, which means he has a hard time understanding what he's hearing.
Now, once he reads the question, he's able to understand.
You'll hear he also still has some problems, some challenges with speech.
He had a hard time understanding our conversations.
Lingering auditory processing symptoms.
You mean he can't understand what's being said?
Pennsylvania, wake up.
You can't elect this man.
You have got to message.
You got to get out.
The grassroots have got to start hitting the ground.
This guy would be a six-year senator, and it would be so sad for the country.
Oh, it would be such a disgrace.
Defeat him quickly.
Please get the message out.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email me your thoughts.
It's always freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening.
God bless.
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