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Sept. 29, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Was the Nord Stream Sabotage a Midterm Operation? With Jack Hibbs
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Investing Opportunities Over Cynicism 00:11:11
Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show.
Jack Hibbs joins us, jackhibbs.com.
I'm going to an event with him on Friday.
I'm very excited about that.
Jack Hibbs is a great American patriot.
We had more pastors like Jack Hibbs, our country would be in a much better place.
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And I continue our speculation of was the United States behind the attack on Nordstream pipeline.
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Every Sunday, there is one pastor I make sure to watch.
I make sure to make time for Pastor Jack Hibbs.
He's become a great friend and a mentor, an advisor of mine.
And he is a fighter.
He understands the word of God better than almost anybody I have ever had the chance to meet and to spend time with.
And I'm really touched.
I'm honored to be speaking at what's called the Futures Conference this weekend, which I think is totally sold out, but I think there's still a digital option.
But Jack could tell us all about that.
With us right now is Pastor Jack Hibbs from Calvary Chapel Chino Hills.
Jack, welcome to the program.
Charlie, it's great to have you, my friend.
Or it's great to be on.
I tell you, it's great to be having you at our conference.
As you well said, it is sold out.
In fact, it's sold out in a half a day, Friday and Saturday.
And I'm just blessed that you're going to be kicking it off on Friday night.
It's going to be great.
And so is there a digital option for people where they could have digital tickets they could buy or is it going to be rebroadcasted at all?
It's going to be streaming now that it's sold out and packed out.
It's going to be streaming live.
So people can simply go to either jackibbs.com or they can type in, search Google or Futures Conference.
There'll be a link there.
I'm not privy right now.
I've forgotten what that link is exactly, but it's going to be available for anybody everywhere.
So Jack, tell us kind of what the theme of it will be, right?
I mean, we're talking about biblical prophecy.
We're talking about the news of the day.
And we're also going to talk about the Great Reset.
We're going to talk about a lot of these different things.
And Jack, I'll say this on Friday.
You unintentionally turned me into the Great Reset guy.
I mean, we did that event like it was amazing.
And people come up to me and I get invited to things.
Charlie, come talk about the Great Reset.
And it was all thanks to you.
Jack, what's the goal of this event?
And what does success look like?
The biggest goal of this event is to especially, it's not limited to young people, of course, but we really want to reach young people, thus Charlie Kirk, where Bible prophecy is not some fantastic, crazy thing that some people think it is.
It's actually God's word to us where he's written down history in advance.
So how does that apply to us?
I just loved your last guest, Dr. Habib.
You think about all the things that Montesquieu and for that matter, Locke was talking about.
Everything is based upon the rule of law.
But where did the rule of law come from, but from God?
And so you can't parse out portions of the scripture and say, well, I really love the Sermon on the Mount, but I'm not really into Bible prophecy or Jesus' all of it discourse where he speaks about the things that will preempt his coming back to earth.
You say, well, Jack, Charlie, why should I care?
You should care immensely because 27% of the Bible is prophetic in nature.
And so we're going to be talking about, you know, the great reset.
That's something that's been in the Bible for a long time because it speaks about a numerical system of economy, no cash anymore.
It speaks about a one-world government.
And the Bible talks about that out of this one world attempt to man to really deify himself with a leader, Jesus said all this stuff was going to come about before he returns.
And so people need to know this, Charlie.
I know that you know that well, but we want to bring a biblically based, sound, strong argument as to why people should know their scriptures now, especially if we're going to save our republic.
We need to get back to what fueled Locke and our founding fathers, and that was the authority of scripture.
And so, Jack, what I really find promising and I just love about what you're doing is that you talk about the prophecy, but you don't allow the audience to use that as an excuse for inaction or to say that, therefore, I'm going to be cynical or I just think it's all going to fall apart.
In fact, you frame it as the exact opposite.
You say, therefore, what do you want to be caught doing?
Therefore, you know, what are you going to do to occupy till he comes?
Can you talk about that?
Can you talk about how some church circles, some denominations might agree with everything you would say on this prophecy conference, but have a totally wrong application with that?
Yeah, historically, the church, of course, we'd want to look at Paul the Apostle, who believed in his day.
He wrote accordingly.
There's what is known, Charlie, in theology as the we, that's W-E, the we statements of Paul, meaning this, that he believed the Lord was coming back in his day.
Well, obviously, the Lord didn't, but every generation of believers is to be looking for the Lord.
What does that mean?
Does it mean that we sit on a hill, as you mentioned, and wait?
Absolutely not.
In fact, C.S. Lewis wrapped it up beautifully by saying that he's noticed in his lifetime, he noticed that those who did the most heavenly good were those who were most expectant of heaven to come.
They were looking for Jesus.
They were expecting Christ.
And so that's our motive.
We should never sit around.
In fact, because I believe that the Lord can come back today, we're putting on this conference.
We are ready now, but in the meantime, we should build hospitals.
We should educate our kids.
We should, as you rightfully said, occupy till he comes.
And that takes a huge spiritual discipline to be ready to meet him today.
But at the same time, I'm planning for the next hundred years.
That's not a contradiction.
That's Christian discipline.
It's exactly right.
Because, Jack, the wrong application of that proper teaching, it discounts and it really invalidates the word because some people tell me, you know, after they say, Charlie, I got an email the other day, Charlie, things are not falling apart.
They're falling into place.
The fact you talk about politics, the fact you talk about the great reset, kind of a waste of time.
It's just a matter of time till this all ends.
That sort of attitude is incorrect.
In fact, we have to reject that temptation.
You have a whole new book about temptation, right?
And I haven't read it yet.
You guys can get it at jackkibbs.com.
I'm sure it's terrific.
But is there a temptation for inaction or for cynicism or for apathy as well we have to reject?
I think there's a temptation to sit it out always.
I mean, it's the fact that water, you know, finds the lowest and easiest path to take.
And apathy does the same thing.
Look, I don't mean to offend anyone whatsoever.
You can offend anyone you want, Jack.
Don't worry.
But the millions of people who have left California, a lot of them have been leaving California to seek ease and comfort.
And they're Christians.
Well, okay, if God told you to leave, I get it.
But if he didn't tell you to go and you're seeking ease and comfort, I want to remind everybody that's what heaven's for.
In the meantime, listen, I refuse to leave California because this place is absolutely dark.
And that's why we are raising up followers of Christ up and down the state to take a stand against evil because number one, we're supposed to.
And I want to get caught, as you said in the introduction, I want to get caught when Christ returns or when I drop dead being busy about my father's business.
So true biblical Christianity is salt and light.
It is effective.
It's making a difference in the school board, PTA, the city council, the county board of supervisors, and in the state.
I mean, look, I've got a couple of lawsuits going up against this governor and this state, even though I believe Jesus could come back today.
What I'm trying to do is stop what he is doing that's wrong and evil.
And nobody can tell me, well, Jack, that's not biblical.
You know, you should just lay down and wait for Jesus to come back.
No, listen, Jesus said that we are to take the opportunities that he's given us and we are to invest those opportunities rather than bury them or hide them under a basket.
So that's what we're doing out here.
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Okay, I want to play some tape here.
Protecting Children From Deviance 00:04:15
It's cut 111 of some footage that Turning Point USA's Frontlines division was able to get of what appears to be a sexual deviant that is presenting some form of a childhood child story to children in public.
Can you guys find out what town this is in?
And basically saying to children some things they should not be hearing.
Play cut 111.
I found more than just a baker, Prince Samuel said.
They're in love.
Can you believe it?
Sander Elliott, yeah, I think Peter Elliot identifies as a boy.
This is my monkey, Claudius.
This is called It's Okay to Be Different.
Can you purr with me?
It's okay to have different moms.
It's okay to have different dads.
Jack Hibbs is with us.
This is not, that's this, that clip was not, might have been in a library outside a library, but looked like it was in a public park.
Jack, how should we think about this?
Well, Charlie, this is how we think about it.
We think about what drives a culture down into destruction.
People don't want to hear about these things, but the fact of the matter is this.
The last manifestation throughout human history of every demise of a culture, you name it, they die the same way.
And that is through sexual deviancy.
And so what we're looking at is this rampant global, let's remember this, Charlie.
It's not happening at just some library in just some town.
This is a global push that is happening right now.
That's right.
It is orchestrated.
It's extremely unified and well organized.
It has infiltrated school boards, education systems.
Parents need to wake up to the realization: look, you don't have to be a Christian to stand up against this.
But, Jack, what bothers me, and I think you'll have some candid words about this, it's happening in churches.
I'm getting quotes.
Let's go right here.
Cut 112 in Los Angeles.
Play cut 112.
We want to make sure that everyone knows that all are welcome here.
We fly to show pride and support of our LGBTQ friends.
We confess that we have demanded too much from the earth.
We confess to the sins of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, fat phobia, American imperialism, and Christian supremacy.
This is a church.
But Charlie, that is a church.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, Charlie.
It's a church in a 501c3 form only.
It's a church that, listen to this.
The Bible says that in the last days, there'll be those that will have passion for lust, for power, and for the twisting of God's word, while all the while demonstrating a form of godliness.
There's an outward draping of some visage of spirituality.
And that's exactly what we're seeing.
But let's remember, the Bible says that this stuff would happen in the last days.
These are wake-up calls.
And we just had a big push up in Boise, Idaho, where none of the parents knew about this stuff, but they were going to have a gay parade with a Dre Queen for Children event.
And thank God, you know, somebody got the news down to us and we began to reach out to the churches in Idaho and they stood up against it a couple weeks ago and put an end to that.
But this is popping up everywhere and it's going to, listen, people have got to take a stand for what's right, not for what feels acceptable.
Sometimes it doesn't feel good to speak up, but if you know what's right and true and honoring to God, this is the time for us to.
Yeah, and I, I mean, I totally agree.
Jack, you know, not everyone in our audience is Christian.
And that's, you know, I just want to say, though, if you feel uncomfortable standing up for children, like I have no time for you, honestly.
And we have people under the banner of Christianity, Christianity, that are doing that nonsense and that garbage.
Jack, we look to you for guidance and you've done a great job.
I can't wait to be with you Friday, Jack.
God bless you.
Energy Shortages And Proxy Wars 00:14:51
JackHibbs.com.
Check out Jack's latest book on temptation.
We're going to have a really great time talking about the great reset prophecy.
I'm doing my homework, Jack, so I'm going to bring some new stuff.
It's going to be great.
All right.
God bless you, Charlie.
Thank you.
God bless you, Charlie.
Thank you.
Everybody, email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
That church, by the way, is in Katy, Texas.
It is called First Christian Church of Katy, Texas.
You see, I don't even see all these clips before we play them.
I thought it was satire.
I really did.
I thought it was satire.
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This hurricane is really, it's really heating up.
I'll tell you what.
But don't worry, A.B. Klobuchar says that if you elect Democrats, they're going to be able to end hurricanes, play cut 66.
We just did something about climate change for the first time in decades.
That's why we've got to win this as that hurricane bears down on Florida.
We've got to win in the midterms.
We understand that.
Yeah, elect us and the hurricanes will stop.
I get a lot of questions of you asking, Charlie, how do you feel about the midterms?
How do you believe we're trending?
Things are getting better.
They really are.
I'm very worried about this Nordstream situation, though.
This Nordstream situation could be a curveball, could be something that nobody anticipated in more ways than one.
Tucker Carlson had some phenomenal coverage of this last evening.
Let's start with Cut 81 and walk ourselves through it.
Play Cut 81.
But we should tell you that maybe not coincidentally, today a brand new pipeline was unveiled, a pipeline that carries non-Russian natural gas in roughly the same area as Nordstreams 1 and 2.
This is called the Baltic Pipe.
It was inaugurated in Poland.
It will carry natural gas from Norway through Denmark to Poland and other countries nearby.
And it's likely to do very well since now it has less competition.
It's a very sad moment where I have to take pause and wonder if our government was behind this.
It would be so unspeakably reckless and irresponsible.
I am not saying our government is behind it.
I'm asking a question.
The same government that exaggerated to the extent of the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, invaded a sovereign country, lied about the origins of COVID, lied about the underlying problems of the 2008 financial crisis.
I'm asking about all these things.
Our government has not earned our trust.
Latest report shows that our government is involved in over 23 proxy conflicts across the world, 23 proxy conflicts.
Would our government actually make a very bold step to intervene in the sense of destroying an international pipeline?
We've played this tape, and I'm going to play it again.
Let's play Cut 89 first.
Victoria Newland back in February saying this, play Cut 89.
With regard to Nord Stream 2, we continue to have very strong and clear conversations with our German allies, and I want to be clear with you today.
If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another, Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.
One way or the other.
Cut 85, Victoria Newland, this was before that, talking about how the pipeline is the cash cow that enables Vladimir Putin.
Would our government be so brazen, be so foolish, be so dumb to destroy the cash cow of a nuclear-armed power?
I hope not.
I think that, I hope that.
I pray our government was not involved or aware of this.
Play Cut 85.
As you know, energy is the cash cow that enables these kinds of military deployments.
So Putin needs the energy to flow as much as the consumers need it.
But more broadly, we have been counseling Europe for almost a decade now to reduce its dependence on Russian energy.
No, they haven't.
It's the opposite.
They have been trying to create this environmentalist, green energy, abstraction-obsessed movement in Europe and around the Western world while allowing Russia to continue to bring energy and natural gas.
So this is where there's these inexplicable contradictions coming from the regime.
On one hand, you have Victoria Newland saying that this is a cash cow and it enables Vladimir Putin.
On the other hand, you have the very unimpressive senator, Chris Koons, who I think is from Delaware, who says that this is likely an attack from Russia.
So which is it then?
Is it likely an attack from Russia or is it the cash cow?
It makes zero sense at all, and no one can explain it to me.
The Russians would destroy their own cash cow.
Why would they do that?
To then go blame the Western world for attacking them and staging a false flag event?
Maybe.
But to strangle your own recurring ATM machine when the rest of the world is already icing you out?
Cut 87.
Well, Willie, the Secretary General of NATO, Jensen Stoltenberg, has called it sabotage.
We don't have definitive intelligence information yet on what caused this sub-sea pipeline to rupture and to begin to leak, but it is likely that this is an act by Russia.
I think that we've seen over and over Vladimir Putin use energy as a weapon against the West to try and undermine NATO's unity in the face of his brutal invasion of Ukraine.
These people are so unbelievably stupid.
I mean, okay, so let's say he's weaponizing energy.
Let's say that Vladimir Putin is the worst person ever.
Then why wouldn't he turn the pipeline off?
Why would he have to bomb it?
If he wanted to weaponize energy, just turn it off.
Press a button.
And of course, he starts with, well, we have no definitive intelligence to show us.
And now I'm just going to speculate as a U.S. Senator on the Foreign Affairs Committee.
Now, remember, Donald Trump went to the UN and told German officials that they're being too dependent on Russian energy.
And the smug Germans laughed at him.
This is a video of Donald Trump, audio two, of him speaking at the UN.
And the Germans literally were chuckling and laughing at him.
Here's a good lesson from the 20th century.
Overly cocky Germans can create a very big mess.
Play cut 106.
Germany will become totally dependent on Russian energy if it does not immediately change course.
Here in the Western Hemisphere, we are committed to maintaining our independence from the encroachment of expansionist foreign powers.
It has been the formal policy of our country since President Monroe that we reject the interference of foreign nations in this hemisphere and in our own affairs.
You know, the detractors of Trump would always say that he has no impulse control.
I think the amount of self-control that he displayed there, did you see that one German?
Can we get a screen bag of that, scrap of that?
The smugness, the guy sitting like this, no respect for the leader.
Look at that.
Who is this guy?
His name is like Franz Reinhold or something.
He's just like this to Trump, laughing, chuckling at him.
Well, now Europe has a major energy crisis.
In the last couple of minutes, the German stock market has collapsed.
The German stock market is down an average of 4.59%, 4.59%.
And the Germans are just laughing at him.
So was Germany involved in doing this?
I don't think so.
That wouldn't make any sense.
So then the question is, who would benefit?
Let's just play this out.
This is going to sound very, very cynical.
It's going to sound very, what's the word I'm looking for?
This is not proven.
Okay, let's put it that way.
If the industrial war complex wanted international war and wanted conflict, does bombing a pipeline get us closer to war or closer to peace?
Does bombing a pipeline get us closer to war or closer to peace?
We know, and this is a very tragic fact, that there is a uniparty regime in Washington, D.C. that has an insatiable appetite for blood that will continue to want to send our daughters and our sons to foreign countries and foreign wars, expensing the American taxpayer to make it very difficult for us to be able to prioritize domestic needs and issues.
Cut 86, failed punk rocker Anthony Blinken, said it would be in no one's interests to sabotage this.
Okay, well, this is a longer clip.
Let's listen to this.
Again, if a journalist had any sort of courage or intelligence, we should ask them, well, if it's in no one's interest, then who did it?
Well, it's in no one's interest.
Well, it's not an act of God.
You guys predicted this was happened.
You basically threatened this was going to happen.
So who did it?
The only superseding interest, and I know this sounds cynical, but it's true, that I can possibly deduct from this is the American Washington, D.C. war machine stands to benefit from this.
Play cut 86.
On the question on energy security and Nord Stream in particular, a few things.
The leaks are under investigation.
There are initial reports indicating that this may be the result of an attack or some kind of sabotage, but these are initial reports and we haven't confirmed that yet.
But if it is confirmed, that's clearly in no one's interest.
My understanding is the leaks will not have a significant impact on Europe's energy resilience.
And what's critical is that we are working day in, day out, both on a short-term basis and a long-term basis, to address energy security for Europe and for that matter, around the world.
If it's in no one's interest and somebody did it, then make a list of the most probable suspects, Tony Blinken.
So you and your own government, Chris Koons, Victoria Newland, have said that this pipeline is essential to Russian prosperity.
Okay.
So while the Russian economy is in a fragile position, why is it that they would destroy it?
If they wanted to weaponize energy, wouldn't they just turn it off?
Not destroy it to make it incapable of future use.
And now there's oil going all throughout the Baltic Sea.
Getting a lot of emails.
Hey, Charlie, Tiffany Smiley is within two points of Patty Murray here in Washington.
This is huge.
I agree.
It is huge.
If the Republicans were able to flip the Senate seat, that would smet one of the biggest red waves in recent history.
Please reach out to Tiffany and get her on your program.
Be happy to.
Tiffany has run a good race.
I've been watching her from afar.
I know a lot of people that are very excited about that.
Let's play some more tape here.
Let's go to Cut 96.
Tucker on how the pipeline leaks were no accident.
To reinforce our argument, play Cut 96.
And it turns out it was not an accident.
At the very same time that leaks in these pipelines were detected, Swedish officials recorded two powerful undersea explosions, each one of which was equivalent to hundreds of pounds of TNT.
Nothing in nature can account for that.
Almost immediately, the pipelines began leaking in three separate places.
So there's only one explanation for what happened.
This was an act of industrial terrorism.
If it's an act of industrial terrorism and it was done with sophistication of a military, it only narrows down the potential actors.
And you have to wonder what European country would have the spine to do that if America wasn't aware that this was going to happen.
Now, from a calculus standpoint, I could see this.
I could see it potentially where a couple different situations.
Number one, Russia wants to play the victim, so they bomb their own pipeline.
Industrial Terrorism Behind Pipeline Attacks 00:03:25
Why?
Because they're already selling enough to India and China, and they want to punish Europe.
They want to blow it up and act like the United States did it.
However, I could see it the other way.
I could see Germany and the United States wanting to play the victim because they know that they've so recklessly managed the proxy war in Ukraine, where they bomb the pipeline to then say that Russia and all of the coming energy shortages is because Russia bombed their own pipeline.
That doesn't make any sense.
That doesn't really aim for a big PR war.
So Russia bombs their own stream of cash on the same day the Norwegian pipeline launches.
Cut 98, Tucker Carlson suggests that Joe Biden is behind this move.
Play Cut 98.
So you have to ask, could the Biden administration really do something like this?
We can't say for sure.
We don't know for sure.
We can tell you that close allies of the Biden White House believe they certainly did do it.
Radek Sikorsky is a Polish politician.
He's chairman of the EU-USA delegation in the European Parliament.
He's connected.
He's also the husband of regime stenographer Ann Applebaum of The Atlantic magazine.
Sikorsky is so close to Joe Biden that he's got a picture of the two of them together in his Twitter profile.
So when the pipelines blew up, Sikorsky responded immediately.
And here's what he wrote.
Thank you, USA.
What did he mean by that?
I saw that tweet too.
Thank you, USA.
If this was an act of the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA, which again is just speculation, it's very important.
How does that get us closer to peace?
Is this a potential midterm election operation?
Pure speculation.
I am asking a question.
I know Media Matters will have a heyday with this.
Is this a wag the dog situation where they want us talking about a war in Europe when we have inflation, border problems, and the economy?
Is this because that there is a looming red wave here?
Is this an underwater October surprise?
I don't know.
But I certainly don't trust our government, the government that lied about the origins of the Chinese coronavirus, that lied about the mRNA gene-altering technology, that lied about the efficacy of masks, that lied about early treatments, that lied about emergency use authorization, that has lied about the southern border, that has lied about inflation, that lied about Afghanistan.
I don't trust the narrative industrial complex.
The intelligence agency, and I hate to say it this way, it's very painful as a proud American.
They're guilty until proven innocent in this situation.
They're going to have to prove to us it wasn't them given the evidence that they were basically saber-rattling and threatening that they were going to do it.
I pray it wasn't.
I hope it wasn't.
I hope it was Greenpeace.
I don't think so.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email me your thoughts as always.
Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening.
God bless.
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