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Sept. 2, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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The REAL Story Behind Soros D.A. George Gascon's Failed Recall with Jennifer Van Laar
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A Different Kind of Democrat 00:14:39
Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Gascon in Los Angeles is going to not even face a recall.
We talk about that as well as where is the race card?
Why is the race card missing lately?
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We've talked in great length here before about the danger of the Internal Revenue Service and how Raphael Warnock and Mark Kelly have voted to increase the size of the Internal Revenue Service by 87,000 new IRS agents.
And the Internal Revenue Service is part of an extension of a movement started by Woodrow Wilson, one of America's worst presidents, to build out this fourth branch of government.
The fourth branch of government is part of the progressive project of the administrative state.
There is one term that I would like to introduce into the American zeitgeist: it is the administrative state, an unknown, unelected, unchecked branch of government that strangles your freedoms and liberties.
And so, to kind of continue the point here, I talked to a certain Senate candidate who is in a very contentious race yesterday.
I had a 30-minute conversation with him.
He's in a tough race, and he can win.
And he asked for my advice.
And I told him a couple things.
I said, first of all, every single time you get on stage, you need to mention about how your opponent has voted or will vote for the expansion of the Internal Revenue Service.
Secondly, why are we not talking about crime more?
Crime is a major issue.
And as I pinpointed with Heather McDonald, the fact that we have seen these massive increases in crime across the board shows how Democrats are now adjusting to all of a sudden no longer be the defund the police people.
Joe Biden is talking about how he wants safe communities and law enforcement.
You see, the playbook of 2020 to try to boost black support via BLM and the racial arsonist agenda that was kind of stapled into that resulted in middle-class voters, suburban voters, Latino voters defecting from the Democrat Party in massive numbers.
Now, if you're out there and you see anything different, let me know.
But I have seen a massive de-emphasize, de-emphasizing campaign on the race issue.
When have the Democrats ever been this quiet on the issue of race?
They're quiet on the issue of race because it's no longer a winner.
Here's the good news.
Now, look, Bank of America does their wacky and wild thing.
You have the medical associations doing that.
However, I do believe that there is a turning on the race issue in our favor.
Critical race theory is widely unpopular.
Racial segregation is very unpopular.
This racial discord that we have seen, and all of that parlays into somehow they sound then see we they say we need less law enforcement, we need to defund the police.
It is very interesting to see the campaigns that these candidates are running.
For example, you go to Mark Kelly's website, almost nowhere on Mark Kelly's website, does he talk about race?
Does he talk about equity?
No, you go to Mark Kelly's website.
It's like the mission comes first.
This campaign is about the people of Arizona, not corporate PACs and the mess they've created in Washington.
Okay, Mark Kelly.
Nowhere does it talk about racial reconciliation or any of this nonsense.
It's not a winner, especially in the state of Arizona.
You go to these other websites as well.
You go to Cortez Mastro's website.
And by the way, she's in a lot of trouble.
Cortez Masto.
She's in a very, very, she's in a very tough race against a good candidate, Adam Laxalt.
Adam can win that race.
She's not talking about race anywhere.
I mean, the race issue.
You go to her website.
She makes herself seem like a total moderate.
She's a very unimpressive candidate.
Catherine Cortez-Masto is a very beatable candidate.
Adam Laxalt can win this race.
Fighting for Nevadans, her website, Meet Catherine.
It's very normal, kind of modern-day things, tackling issues, moderate things, I should say.
Nothing at all where it would make it seem as if she's kind of the participant or a lieutenant in a racial arsonist agenda.
2020 was totally different.
You go to John Fetterman.
By the way, John Fetterman is one of the craziest people to run for office in the last decade.
This guy's a psychopath.
He's a weird, weird person.
He is like convicted murderers on his payroll.
He's a legit radical.
He is a legitimate Marxist.
He's a supersized Marxist, is what he is.
So go to his website.
It says a different kind of Democrat.
Doesn't look like a typical politician.
Again, I'm so exhausted with this kind of Hollywood play acting thing where John Fetterman wears the sweatshirt and the shorts, like, ooh, you're such a tough guy, John Fetterman.
Okay.
Again, his health is one thing.
I wish him a recovery.
I don't wish poor health on anybody.
But honestly, when it comes to John Fetterman's health, this is something we need to say.
He is not well enough to serve as United States Senator, period.
You can wish somebody well and to recover while simultaneously also saying he is not physically fit.
He is not mentally fit to serve as a United States Senator.
He's running against a doctor.
I hope the doctor who's running against him makes a point of that.
You know, we get emails in our audience, freedom at charliekirk.com, of people that are not fans of Dr. Oz.
But I'll tell you, you want to become, you want, you want Dr. Oz to be tolerable?
Go look at John Fetterman.
I'll tell you what.
You go to his website.
Nowhere does it talk about the kind of racial equity issues.
And by the way, can I just say something that might be considered to be controversial?
We have to stop tolerating unhealthy people running our country.
It's a very serious.
They used to do that against Donald Trump.
And again, I wish John Fetterman a speedy recovery.
I wish Robert Francis O'Rourke a speedy recovery.
I'm not wishing health issues on anybody.
It's a very serious thing.
It's sad.
I get it.
But that's a separate issue also from are you able to do the job?
Are you able to do the thing you're supposed to do?
How about Raphael Warnock, who's now down in the polls, by the way, to Herschel Walker?
Herschel Walker is only going to gain momentum as the Rev Raphael Warnock.
What a piece of garbage he is.
I'll tell you what.
Raphael Warnock is so radical.
He is so out of the mainstream for Georgia.
Raphael Warnock running up against an honorable man of Herschel Walker.
You go to Warnock's website.
He's raising tons of money.
Fight for a better Georgia.
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Why I'm running.
Raphael Warnock grew up in the Catons home public housing in Savannah.
The family was short on money, but long on faith and love and humor.
Raphael and his 11 brothers and sisters taught the meaning of hard work.
Raphael Warnock voted for 87,000 new IRS agents.
Raphael Warnock voted for all the worst aspects of Biden's agenda.
And he's on the ropes now.
Herschel Walker's hitting his stride.
Herschel Walker for the comeback candidate of the year.
I'll tell you what, people thought Herschel was going to lose in July.
He's been running a much better race.
These candidates are not running radical campaigns, even though they are radicals.
This country is far more center-right than I think the media will ever recognize.
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I don't understand why the IRS goes to college campuses and starts to try to get kids to do these mock criminal investigations.
This is at Dixie State University in Utah.
Let's play Cut 79.
No, these aren't actual police officers.
They're students posing as special agents for the IRS.
Arresting a man who is wanted for tax evasions.
Who are you guys?
What is this?
We're the IRS.
You're under arrest.
You're going to jail, buddy.
We are the only agency that can work investigations regarding tax evasion and other tax-related offenses.
Many students say it's satisfying to know you've taken down those who have cheated the financial system using taxpayers' dollars.
Once you, you know, steal money from the government, you're going down.
Down.
Why does the IRS need to go to college campuses and put on these clinics of, you steal money from the government, you're going down with my fake pistol?
It's so bizarre and weird, and you're filming it and publicizing it.
This was just this last spring, if I'm not mistaken.
One of our team members found this clip.
It's amazing.
Then cut 80.
This is another video going around what appears to be new IRS agents training and entering a room and then arresting two men for conspiracy.
Now, we got an email from somebody and they said, Charlie, you know, look, the IRS, they have a criminal division and civil division.
The criminal division does a lot of work.
I understand all that.
I just don't trust the IRS.
I just don't.
We're just not going to see eye to eye in that.
The IRS is slow and they're incompetent.
And I know too many lives that have been ruined and destroyed by the Internal Revenue Service.
And why do they need to be armed?
Why do federal tax auditors need to be armed?
Play cut 80.
Put your hands on you.
I have a gun.
Yeah, I have a permit.
Can we take your weapon, please?
Say no.
Do you have any other weapons on your hands behind your back?
You're underwrestered.
Let me put it this way: that's not exactly the most athletic and fit people that could potentially be federal agents.
Let me just put it that way.
They're not sending their best.
87,000 new of them.
So this weekend, when you're watching college football, and I hope you're watching college football, let's say the Ohio State Notre Dame game this weekend.
Okay?
That will be at Ohio Stadium.
I think Ohio Stadium's capacity is right near 100,000.
I'm going to actually look it up right now.
Yeah, it's 104,000 at Ohio Stadium.
So a little bit less than that is how many IRS agents are now hired by Cortez Masto, Mark Kelly, Raphael Warnock.
If you look at, I think Oklahoma would be another example, Oklahoma Sooner Stadium.
That's about 86,112 people in that stadium.
Are there?
87,000 new IRS agents coming after you, coming after your business, coming after your deductions, coming after your church, coming after your charity, coming after your organization.
We just got to keep on hitting this IRS theme, everybody, because they thought they could just sneak that through in the Inflation Reduction Act.
Kirsten Sinema and Joe Manchin, all the people that voted for it.
They are not going to get a pass on this.
They voted for the massive expansion of an unelected group of people to be able to terrorize you, take money from you, punish you, penalize you.
It's not about enforcing taxes or anything about that.
No, no, no.
It's about going after hardworking Americans.
You know, the best example is the Oklahoma Memorial Stadium in Norman, Oklahoma.
It's one of the top 25 stadiums in the world, max capacity at 86,112.
And it could hold, in fact, it's too small to hold the 87,000 new IRS agents that will be hired once this inflation bill goes into law.
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So I spent some time in Los Angeles here and there.
I travel and I could tell you that there was a bipartisan, massive rejection looming of this LA district attorney, George Gascon, who is one of the sneakiest, just dirty politicians in America.
George Gascon has made Los Angeles a dirtier city, more dangerous city, and just a less enjoyable place to live, quite honestly.
So, George Gascon was facing a recall effort.
And this is where it got to be really weird.
I thought the recall was for sure going to happen.
And then there was all this signature issue and all these other things.
And there's a phenomenal journalist who can unpack that for us, which goes to show the lengths that the regime is willing to go to prevent people from having a check and balance against people in power.
And that is Jennifer Van Law, who has been covering this in great detail.
Jennifer, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Thank you.
So, Jennifer, walk us through.
You wrote this at redstate.com: Recall Gascon Committee knowingly turned in invalid petition signatures, misled donors and volunteers.
Tell us what's going on here.
So it's one of those situations where there's not just one person that maybe did the wrong thing or messed up or something.
There's just everyone involved messed up or was corrupt in some kind of way.
I mean, we know that the registrar in LA County, Dean Logan, is notorious for shady Democrat dealings.
For, you know, that was, he was the guy that when people went to vote in the Newsom recall, Republicans, they were told, oh, you already voted, and their new vote didn't count.
So he's definitely not a great guy here.
Then we had the signature gathering firm that was hired by the committee has ties to George Soros companies and were actually working against ballot, against voter ID in Michigan.
They were the ones getting signatures in Los Angeles and turning in thousands of signatures from people not in LA County, from people not registered to vote, from people who had already signed it and still getting paid per signature.
Then we had the committee themselves who were not taking the advice of people like that got the Newsom recall on the ballot or that got other big statewide initiatives on the ballot and knew how to get it done.
They weren't taking that advice and instead doing things that would enrich themselves.
So it turned into this giant cluster that really the people in Los Angeles County and the surrounding counties are going to pay for for the next two years.
Yeah.
So I don't quite understand it though, because it seems like the support was there amongst the people.
So how did this get so screwed up?
Was it legitimately, you know, not having the signatures?
Over 195,000 signatures had been deemed invalid.
That's extraordinary.
Do you think there was a conspiracy to try to derail this?
I'm not going to go that far.
I don't think that we have enough evidence to say for sure yet exactly what happened because the committee has the opportunity and that timeframe is still going on to examine each and every signature that was rejected by the county and the reason why.
And they absolutely should be challenging all of that.
So of the 195,000, 88,000 of the signatures were not rejected because of a signature match issue.
They were rejected because that person was not a registered voter, period.
And you have to be a registered voter to sign these petitions.
44,000 and some were duplicate signatures.
So people who signed twice.
There are about 6,000 from out-of-county voters, which that also doesn't count for an LA County thing.
But I mean, who's to say that the 88,000 people really weren't registered to vote or that the signature, I think there were 6,000 signature mismatches that those, maybe some of those should have been counted.
So it remains to be seen whether there were a complete lack of enough signatures.
They were about 45,000 signatures short, 520,000 were ruled valid.
Yeah, so it seems as if this is widespread incompetence and corrupt consultants who were lining their own pocket, and then they tried to basically deflect blame.
Is that right?
There's an element of that.
So the consultants were advised to hire a certain signature gathering company that got the recall Newsome and had some other successes getting statewide things on the ballot.
But they rejected that because they were too expensive.
But, you know, when you're getting, you want to get people who actually get valid signatures, then you pay for the quality you get.
And they hired this firm that had these other issues.
Then instead of keeping on with getting signatures in front of Walmart, Target, how you normally do, they sent out petitions.
They mailed them to 3.6 million households in May at the same time all the election mail was coming to people's houses where it might get thrown in the trash.
But when they do that, the consultants get a 10 to 15% bonus back to themselves as a kind of a finder's fee for sending out the mail.
They don't get that if they just send out paid signature gatherers.
So it seems like you make a bad decision, but the one that's going to line your own pockets is not really the greatest thing to do.
Can you expand on the George Soros connection here and his involvement in all of this?
Yes.
So in Michigan, they've had multiple ballot initiatives this year.
They were trying to get voter ID laws tightened, which is something we absolutely need.
And so what George Soros' people did was start an opposing ballot thing, making basically that HR1, that terrible bill that they had in Congress, making it Michigan law.
So this firm that got the signatures that was hired by the Gascon committee was actually being paid by the Soros people to go oppose the voter ID laws, the voter ID proposition in Michigan and instead get signatures for something that would have made this massive expansion of mail-in and no ID needed and same-day registration kind of thing.
So it's not like they were conservative or really caring about what they were doing.
This firm also, some of their people in Michigan advertised that they're a felon-friendly operation and they want people who have been down on their luck.
And even a convicted felon could go and get signatures and get paid by them.
So, you know, I wouldn't necessarily trust a convicted felon to go sign something under penalty of perjury that they were doing a good job on this.
So, Jennifer, here's a question.
Do we check regular ballots for signature authenticity and accuracy like this or only on recall ballots of a George Soros appointed prosecutor?
The signatures, yes.
Now, the thing, the difference that we have here is on a ballot, allegedly it's being mailed to someone who's already on the voter rolls at a certain address.
If we're sending, if we're just having people walk up at Walmart, Target, the grocery store, you don't know that that person is who they are.
Like they could just sign Charlie Kirk and write whatever address.
And should that be counted as Charlie Kirk?
So I agree with you that we need more stringent looks at mail and ballots for sure.
But on this type of petition, it's kind of apples and oranges.
Okay, so I guess.
So what is the big takeaway here?
I mean, because I do believe that the amount of people that did not have concern for Gascon was pretty widespread and significant.
However, you know, he's going to remain in office.
So why is it that they were able to get the signatures for the Newsom recall, but not the Gascon recall?
That I think goes directly to the people running it and the vendors hired.
Because if you use a firm that is going to make sure, because these consultants that do the paid signature gathering, they have the voter file.
They have that database.
They should be going along every week and checking to make sure that the people that have signed it are registered to vote, that they're registered to vote at that address, that they're within LA County.
And the recall Gascon committee told the donors that they were doing this, that they were pre-verifying the signatures before they sent them in so that they had a high confidence in this.
And then it turned out that that wasn't even happening.
That last weekend before they were turned in, they were still pre-validating or pre-verifying stuff from February that kept them from being able to even look at all of the signatures.
That's why you had so many duplicates.
Like in the Chesa Boudin recall, they only had two duplicate signatures of the entire petition versus 44,000 for this one.
But I agree, it had overwhelming public support.
There was a poll that came out a few days after we knew that a petition had failed that Gascon would have lost by 21 points in a recall election.
So it was definitely, yeah, it's definitely a heartbreaking thing for people.
I've heard from volunteers all over California, all over LLA County that put in hundreds of hours going and gathering signatures from their neighborhoods and even standing out friday outside of grocery stores themselves, not even being paid.
And they're heartbroken over this.
And so that's why I think even if it reflects poorly on some of our own Republican consultants, that it's important to know the truth of what happened because people need to have confidence in the recall process and that when they're giving money to an organization to get something done, that people are competent in spending it.
And they need to know that where the blame should lie so that we can actually get things done in the future.
It doesn't serve us well to just, you know, throw our hands up and say, oh, it's all rigged, because then that doesn't help when we actually want to get out and vote in November.
Can you give us an update of the LA mayor's race, Bass versus Caruso?
What's the latest with that?
Bass is way ahead.
And that's really unfortunate because she is probably even worse than Garcetti because she is a true believer in, she's a huge Hugo Chavez Castro supporter.
She is just all about all of the communists and Marxists.
She goes way beyond progressive and socialist.
So it's just going to be more of the same.
She already said in the primary that in a first term, she couldn't even do anything about the homeless issue and criminal issues.
She'll just give George Gascon a free pass to do whatever he wants.
That's just, that's not good.
I mean, Caruso seemed though for a little bit he had some momentum.
And so then what happened?
The unions and the union money, they saw what was starting to happen with that momentum.
And Caruso has been more of the on the conservative side, you know, went Democrat for this, but it's definitely, if there's a choice between the two of them, they need Caruso.
And people in LA really seem to do everything they can to get everyone out to vote this November for Caruso.
Because if Karen Bass gets in and if Sheriff Illanueva loses, you might as well just ride off LA for the next five to 10 years.
But part of me thinks, you know, I live just outside in Ventura County, but part of me thinks that LA maybe needs to hit this bottom of having that happen and see just how terrible it can get.
Yeah, let LA hit rock bottom and the Olympics are coming a couple of years later.
That's going to be great.
Jennifer, great commentary as always.
Thank you so much.
Thanks.
We played this a little bit earlier.
It's just so remarkable to have Corrine Jean-Pierre say that half of our country, half of America is a threat to democracy, our freedoms, and our rights.
This sort of reckless and irresponsible language has serious implications about ever trying to have national unity or healing.
It is pouring gas on the metaphorical fire that they started, Play Cut 61.
The president thinks that there is an extremist threat to our democracy.
The president has been clear as he can be on that particular piece when we talk about a democracy, when we talk about our freedoms.
The way that he sees is the MA Republicans are the most energized part of the Republican Party.
That extreme, this is an extreme threat to our democracy, to our freedom, to our rights.
Now, if you were to try to define what a democracy is, it's everything that the MAGA movement is.
It's a grassroots movement without serious institutional money behind it.
It is candidates popping up all across the country.
Yes, some of them are, you know, at times a little wacky and they're, you know, a little bit all over the place.
But let's use a different word.
Let's use colorful.
They could be very entertaining at times.
I don't mean wacky in a bad way.
I just mean, you know, sometimes they say things they shouldn't say.
But I'm all for it.
You know why?
That shows that we're not scripted.
It shows that it's real.
It's authentic.
The Democrats are running boring candidates because they're all scripted.
We got candidates that are all over the place.
If you were to ever look at a definition of what democracy actually is, it's the movement that is taking over precinct committee positions, taking over school board positions that is bottom-up.
And that's what President Trump started.
And I also just want to give all of you a little bit of warning tonight.
President Biden is speaking tonight.
And I believe he is going to lay down the terms in a primetime event on mainstream media by doubling and tripling down on the semi-fascist type language.
I think Joe Biden is going to be doing, look, folks, we got to come together.
But first, we must get rid of the dissenters in our ranks.
Just want to prep all of you and don't take the bait.
Stay peaceful.
It is a Hail Mary pass.
These people are losing at every single level.
All the polls have tightened.
The Democrat little surge of support that you might have saw in August, it's all turning around.
We now, we're finally getting organized.
Our candidates are finally getting on message.
We're talking about crime.
We're talking about inflation.
The Mar-a-Lago raid completely backfired on them.
Donald Trump is going to start to hit the campaign trail very soon.
We're going to see a total change of this.
So Joe Biden is going to come out and he's going to try to do everything he possibly can with obviously 87,000 new IRS agents, that ridiculous inflation reduction act, which is anything but that.
And Joe Biden is going to play into continually calling half the country semi-fascists.
Fascism and Collapsing Support 00:01:34
Play cut 38, Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre responding to the question about semi-fascism, play cut 38.
Look, I was very clear when laying out and defining what MAGA Republicans have done.
And you look at the definition of fascism and you think about what they're doing in attacking our democracy, what they're doing in taking away our freedoms, taking away, wanting to take away our rights, our voting rights.
I mean, that is what that is.
It is very clear.
It is so irresponsible.
It is dangerous for them to use that language.
And of course, we respond in kind because we actually want to talk about fascism.
Maybe it's the person who raids the home of a former president.
These are last-ditch, desperate efforts by a collapsing regime.
They can't run on policy.
They can't run on ideas.
They can't show you what they've done.
Joe Biden tonight is going to do his best to mutter through a speech to continue his domestic war and campaign on half of the country.
And I wish it wasn't the case.
I wish we were exaggerating a little bit.
They call half the country semi-fascist.
How do you think we're going to respond to that?
Speech will be very instructive, but just know this: their support is collapsing.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email me your thoughts as always.
Freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening.
God bless.
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