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Winning Florida's Primary
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| Hey everybody, great episode. | |
| We've got Ana Paulina Luna, who just won her congressional primary down there in Florida. | |
| And then Richard Barris joins us to discuss whether or not Republicans are doing what they need to do to close the deal in the midterm elections. | |
| Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. | |
| Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. | |
| I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. | |
| Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. | |
| I want to thank Charlie. | |
| He's an incredible guy. | |
| His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. | |
| We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. | |
| That's why we are here. | |
| Brought to you by the Loan Experts I Trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage at andrewandTodd.com. | |
| Now, I want to dive right back into the news. | |
| We just had some elections last night, and we are so honored to be able to bring on someone who not only was involved in the elections, but actually won her election down. | |
| It was Florida 13th District. | |
| This is Anna Paulina Luna, herself, an alumnus of Turning Point USA. | |
| Anna, thank you so much for joining us today. | |
| So happy to be back, Jack. | |
| So tell me, how do you, what do you attribute your victory to? | |
| And this is, this is Chris's old district. | |
| Is that right? | |
| Yeah, it's been redistricted. | |
| So we're now in an open Republican seat. | |
| The rating is an ARCBO7. | |
| But really, I think that I attribute this to hard work and the grassroots. | |
| You know, a lot of people, when they get involved in politics, they don't want to do the door knocking. | |
| And by the end of this election, my team of about four people and myself had knocked over 14,000 doors. | |
| We made over 38,000 phone calls. | |
| And when you see the amount of money that they poured into us, they spent about $2.00. | |
| And these attack ads, they were vicious. | |
| I mean, you want to talk about clipping segments. | |
| By the end of the race, they were saying that I was a far left Bernie Sanders supporter, which is totally crazy. | |
| But nonetheless, you know, we were able to directly interact with voters and really brought home the win. | |
| But it was, it was a brutal race. | |
| It was probably one of the nastiest races in the country from what a lot of people were saying. | |
| And we made it through by over 10 points. | |
| Well, then what do you attribute that to? | |
| Because, you know, this is one of those races where they say, you know, the primary is the real race, et cetera. | |
| But, you know, so what do you attribute? | |
| Why you? | |
| Why now? | |
| Why was it that the voters of your district wanted to back you for the seat? | |
| You know, it was really telling, especially as everyone started focusing on the election after the FBI raid, how many people were silenced to include other Republicans. | |
| You know, I took a strong stance against what had happened to President Trump with the FBI, but not just that. | |
| Through the last couple of years, I've really shown people in this community that, you know, even though I might be the only one sometimes, as it feels standing and shouting the truth, I'm going to stand firm in that. | |
| I think people right now, they don't want that Beltway Washington, D.C. politician. | |
| They want people that are honest. | |
| They want people that are normal from their same backgrounds and upbringings. | |
| And they want people that are really going to help fight against this globalist agenda. | |
| You know, we're seeing a lot of people that are increasingly scared at what's happening with the overreach of government. | |
| It didn't just stop at the FBI raid with Mar-a-Lago. | |
| They then basically took Representative Scott Perry's phones. | |
| We're seeing this January 6th commission that's really been weaponized against the American people. | |
| And there's a lot of people, they might not say it, but it scares them. | |
| And so I think having strong leaders, having people speak the truth like myself is what really set me apart from the underlying that's running. | |
| It's not just the fact that you've been outspoken on all these things, but because you have been willing to embrace MAGA. | |
| And we see here in this image that Trump's endorsement really has been the single, and it's actually getting stronger. | |
| It's even gotten stronger when we're told that it was, that he's done. | |
| He's out of politics. | |
| America's left him behind. | |
| The people left him behind. | |
| He got behind you. | |
| You've embraced MAGA. | |
| You've embraced this movement. | |
| And it looks as though the voters of your district are absolutely on board with that as well. | |
| Yeah, we had over we had over a thousand people, Jack, show up to a campaign rally for my congressional seat here in Florida 13, you know, where MTG came down and Kimberly Guilfoil. | |
| But to have that type of momentum show up for a candidate for Congress is pretty unheard of. | |
| And that is really the power of the MAGA movement. | |
| You know, a lot of people, I think that those rumors were actually placed by political operatives that are anti-Trump. | |
| I can tell you right now that MAGA's not going anywhere. | |
| And it's really been interesting to see how Beltway DC has really looked and kind of tried to figure out why is it that the American people love President Trump and the message of MAGA. | |
| And that's because that movement is for us. | |
| It's no longer about, you know, very wealthy people dictating to the people what it is. | |
| It's the people rising up from the bottom, telling the top how it's going to be. | |
| And so I'm a populist. | |
| I tell people, you know, I'm not afraid of wearing denim and going out into the community. | |
| That's who I am. | |
| And so that's exactly what I plan on, frankly, bringing back to Washington, D.C. this November. | |
| Well, and Anna, you know, Producer Connor actually just caught in the images, he said, right behind you. | |
| I think that's something that looks familiar to me. | |
| Is that an icon of St. Michael, the archangel that you have right behind you there? | |
| Yeah, it is. | |
| I actually, I bought this actually in Turpin Springs, but you have a few icons in our house. | |
| And if you don't think that this battle is spiritual, you haven't been paying attention. | |
| I can tell you that there's a lot that we're seeing. | |
| God is real. | |
| God is good. | |
| And I think that when you're fighting for righteousness, you're on the right side of God and then he's going to do the work for you. | |
| Oh, 100%. | |
| And by the way, though, it's, you know, I've got to say this, though. | |
| You know, we talked about the Trump endorsement. | |
| We talked about the fact that you embraced MAGA, but we all know what the real reason is. | |
| And I actually know this because I've got the receipts. | |
| And I know we didn't discuss this before, but I'm going to have to say it. | |
| I'm going to have to say it because not only were you out there knocking on doors, but you had a little posto power that was down there in that district. | |
| Because my brother, believe it or not, when he came down to SAS to 20 point SAS, he decided to stay and then just volunteer essentially for your campaign in the primary. | |
| He's been at all the events. | |
| He's been at the door knocks. | |
| Was he there last night? | |
| I think he was there. | |
| He was there last night. | |
| I said, hey, can I get a hard commitment? | |
| You need to come on down here. | |
| So I think he's actually probably going to be officially saying he's going to be moving down here, hopefully soon. | |
| I told him, I said, if you come down here, you're not going to give us a power. | |
| I'm not giving him back. | |
| He's staying down here. | |
| We need to solidify the Florida MAGA movement. | |
| All right. | |
| Kevin Pozovic, brother Pozo, is going to be staying down there. | |
| He is going to be deployed to Florida for the purposes of making sure that we secure Adam Polini's victory and Polina Luna and everybody else who's down there. | |
| But so we're looking at your election specifically, but let's talk Florida and I guess the country in general where we look at these midterm elections, because you've been a great political strategist as well. | |
| We had Congressman Matt Gates on at the top of the show. | |
| We did have Congresswoman Margaret Shayla Green. | |
| She talked about being assaulted, not assaulted, but swatted last night, this attack where they wanted her to be assaulted or possibly worse. | |
| When you know that things like that are potentially in the cards, why is this that you want something that you want to get into? | |
| Why do you want to get into this when you know those threats and the pain box are something they can put you in with the smears, the attacks, and everything else? | |
| Why do all this? | |
| Because we live in the greatest country in the world and there's only one like it. | |
| If the United States ceases to exist, that's it for us. | |
| You know, we are the beacon of hope and freedom. | |
| I've been to, Jack, I've been to over 25 countries around the world. | |
| And I can tell you that the United States, everyone wishes that they had the opportunity and freedoms that we have here. | |
| Unfortunately, there are people in DC that don't like this country. | |
| There are people that are in DC that are foreign actors. | |
| They are involved with foreign governments and they want our country to crumble. | |
| And because of the fact that I think you and I both understand from a military perspective that sometimes maybe it's not the easiest thing to do, but it's the right thing to do. | |
| And if we as good people don't stand up, then it's going to be, you know, these sociopath weirdos that just want, you know, power and control to get into office. | |
| And we have to fight back. | |
| So that's why I'm doing what I'm doing. | |
| No, there's nowhere else to go. | |
| Tell us a little bit more also about the fact of this Hispanic swing. | |
| Are you seeing that in your district? | |
| Did you see that in the primary as well? | |
| We're tracking this across the country, Rio Grande Valley. | |
| What are you seeing on the ground there in Florida in terms of this? | |
| I think in Florida in general, you know, my demographic, there's not really a massive Hispanic voting bloc. | |
| It's about 9% to 10%. | |
| So I still engage. | |
| But what I'm seeing across the state of Florida is that people who have fled communism, surprise, surprise, are very alarmed at what's happening with this administration. | |
| You are seeing a massive shift of these formerly Democrat Hispanics that are now voting Republican because they realize the platform of the Democrat Party does not align with us religiously. | |
| Now, one of the biggest problems we're now seeing is the mainstream media, specifically those that are funded and bought out and controlled by Soros, are actually going and purchasing conservative radio stations, conservative news outlets to stop the information and really to control the information war. | |
| And so what I'm telling people, and I actually opened up my campaign to Telemundo, who typically was left-leaning, because I understand that we have to break out of the echo chamber and engage so that our ideas, our message, and our platform is reaching those voters that might be kind of in a box because of the power, power struggle we're currently seeing. | |
| So I can tell you that there's going to be a continued shift. | |
| But if you are Hispanic, if you are conservative, we have to be engaging this base because this is where from elections here on out for the presidentials, it's going to be fought with the Hispanic voting bloc. | |
| We are inherently conservative, but there's a massive information war and a fight that we have. | |
| And frankly, there's not a lot of funding going to some of these conservative Spanish news outlets and we need it. | |
| Let's hold on to that because I think that's a very important. | |
| I know you've been involved with El American and some of the others. | |
| This is, it's very important that people understand this because it's not just about Florida. | |
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Engaging The Hispanic Base
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| It's about going into every single one of these battleground states and understanding that there is money to be made there. | |
| Look, we talk about current events a lot on this show, but there's other things that are in life that are bigger than current events, bigger things. | |
| We try to do some shows every so often on these things. | |
| But look, what am I talking about when I say that? | |
| How about good and evil? | |
| Right and wrong, prayer and the Bible or heaven and hell. | |
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| Just got a message in, by the way, here. | |
| I do actually read the live chats, you know, folks, when I get a chance and it says, let's all rally around Anna Paulina Luna, Florida 13, to defeat Eric Lynn. | |
| We need reps who will deal with inflation, education, crime, and immigration, not national security swamp creatures that will vote to sell strategic oil reserves to China. | |
| Tell us about your opponent. | |
| So Eric Lynn was actually an Obama appointee. | |
| He's very well funded. | |
| People have, you know, said, okay, this is a red seat. | |
| However, he's sitting on about $3 million in a super PAC. | |
| I think it was actually given to him by someone special interest money. | |
| And then he's sitting on about a million bucks. | |
| But the thing is, is that these people, Democrats especially, they falsely branded themselves as the candidate of the people when in actuality, he is literally working for special interests and for, I believe, the military industrial complex. | |
| He likes to say that he was the Obama appointee, that he helped out with the Iron Dome. | |
| But the fact is, is that the Democrats, as we saw with the botched withdrawing Afghanistan, have no cares. | |
| They have no skin in the game with military service members. | |
| And so I'm fighting. | |
| I'm going to treat this like I'm 10 points behind, even though I'm projected to win the race and we're going to beat them on the ground game. | |
| I think that's right now. | |
| I've got to ask you on about the news of the day, because look, you are going to be representing Florida 13. | |
| But there's been this huge issue. | |
| President Biden essentially saying that he wants to buy the votes of millennials, Zoomers. | |
| He knows that that's been the biggest demographic that he's lost since 2020. | |
| So he wants to buy their votes back with the student loan program. | |
| What should a new right conservative, a new right Republican, what can you say to them? | |
| Because here's the deal, right? | |
| The way I look at it is I think this is going to be popular with those voters, but then what do you say to them in response to it? | |
| Well, Jack, you know, I'll use my example, my story. | |
| I grew up within the welfare system. | |
| I wanted to go to college. | |
| I couldn't afford it. | |
| So I enlisted in the Air Force and actually paid my way through college. | |
| You know, when I was later on accepted into medical school, my husband signed over his GI Bill. | |
| The point is, is that you are born in one of the greatest countries in the world. | |
| You can do anything as long as you put forward hard work and effort. | |
| But when you have politicians, especially saying, hey, we'll just forgive your student loan debt. | |
| What does that say to people that have actually paid their way through school, worked hard to get where we're at? | |
| It's simply not fair. | |
| And I'm against it for those reasons. | |
| But also, too, let's talk about the fact that a majority of these people that are actually having issues with repaying back their student loans, they're also majoring in things that they simply can't make money. | |
| That's predatory, in my opinion, from some of these organizations like Fannie Mae. | |
| But when you look at the fact that you can literally get a job as a welder or as a crane operator and make six figures, yet if you major in basket weaving at whatever university that you're complaining that you can't pay off your debt, you also need to accept responsibility as an adult. | |
| Well, that's one thing too. | |
| But to me, they're so predatory. | |
| And the way that Obama set this up, the guy who appointed your opponent was that essentially saying, you know, it's going to be so easy. | |
| It's free money, right? | |
| It's basically free money, free college. | |
| Then this is the path and you can go forward and you can set yourself up for life. | |
| But instead, that's not what you're actually getting because those jobs don't exist anymore. | |
| Post-pandemic, they really don't exist. | |
| And now suddenly, oh, we're just going to pay that off. | |
| You know, it not only is it a slap in the face to so many people, but it's also, it's a lie from the start because they're not shutting down these predatory programs. | |
| Is that something that you as a sitting member of Congress would fight for? | |
| 100%. | |
| You know, there was, I think I had heard someone float around an idea too that these schools need to accept responsibility for this. | |
| You know, these schools get massive government funding and yet they're pushing these programs where you know that these students are not going to be able to actually make it in the real world because the degree is useless. | |
| And so I think that there does need to be accountability held for this. | |
| But then, also, too, I think as a society, culturally, we need to stop looking down on people that haven't gone to college. | |
| We need to stop looking down at people that have specialized trades because, as a country, that makes someone powerful. | |
| Right now, China has it. | |
| They're kicking our butts. | |
| And yet, we don't have that here. | |
| And so, I think that we need to start addressing it differently in that aspect and then also address the predatory aspect as well. | |
| Harvard is sitting on top of $54 billion of a hedge fund that they call an endowment. | |
| Yale has $31 billion. | |
| Stanford, $29 billion. | |
| Princeton, $26 billion. | |
| It's completely insane. | |
| Why aren't we using that money? | |
| Adam, we're just about out of time. | |
| What is your website? | |
| Where can people go to follow you? | |
| And will you give my brother back? | |
| Yes, I'm not giving your brother back. | |
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| Flipping the house this November. | |
| It starts in Florida. | |
| It's going across the country. | |
| God bless you. | |
| Voteapl.com is the site. | |
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| Member, we said this yesterday. | |
| Donate to candidates directly. | |
| Cut out the middleman. | |
| Don't even mess with it anymore. | |
| God bless you. | |
| By the way, congratulations. | |
| I know it must be pretty fun. | |
| So I hope you're taking some time off, you know, a little bit of time to just celebrate and enjoy that. | |
| Thank you very much, Jack. | |
| We'll talk soon. | |
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| I want to bring in now Richard Barris, the people's pundit, not only to break down yesterday's elections, what we can learn from them, but this gambit, this huge gambit over essentially bribing younger voters. | |
| Richard, thank you so much for joining the program. | |
| Oh, always, my friend. | |
| Good to be here. | |
| Thanks for having me. | |
| So we know that Biden lost, and I think this narrative is true, that he lost a lot of support with those younger voters. | |
| Is this going to work? | |
| Is he going to bribe them back? | |
| Yeah, here, I've always been skeptical on that because, you know, when we ask younger voters, why? | |
| Why did Biden lose you? | |
| What is the reason that you disapprove of the job he's doing? | |
| What's your most important voting issue this upcoming midterm or period? | |
| And student loans are really not up there, Jack. | |
| There are some who don't even have student loans. | |
| But generally speaking, their problem is the, for younger voters specifically, it's inflation, like others, and cost of living in general. | |
| And when we specifically ask them, they're a little bit different than older people or people who have families who may say, you know, gas, groceries. | |
| Their problem is housing and that they can't really, you know, they can't afford rent or they definitely can't afford a house now. | |
| So, you know, this is a risk. | |
| It is a risk because you risk alienating. | |
| so many other people that are honestly more inclined to vote Democrat now and are and are likely voters. | |
| Here's something that I want to point out, though, is that you had a tweet about this up last night where you essentially said, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you were talking about educated white voters. | |
| And so, okay, those are people that are more typically going to have these student loans. | |
| Aren't they kind of already voting Democrat? | |
| They are. | |
| And, you know, some of them already paid their student loans off. | |
| Others make too much money to even qualify for this program, Jack. | |
| So, you know, the textbook Democrat right now is an educated voter who makes a lot of money. | |
| So, you know, again, there's a lot of details in this plan, but it seems to me that he can risk, you know, ticking off a lot of people, you know, from maybe in a game of a few. | |
| I'm not at all convinced that this is a net game in the end. | |
| I'm really not. | |
| So if that's the case, then what should Republicans be looking at? | |
| Because the theme that we had this week, and I needed to get you on about this. | |
| I said, are Republicans sleepwalking into these midterms? | |
| Are they closing? | |
| Where's the close? | |
| Where's the closing message? | |
| Then we see this special election up in the Hudson Valley. | |
| I don't know if this is as much of a bellwether as the media wants us to think that's this massive bellwether, but we're starting to see potential cracks in this narrative or this sense that I think people had that a red wave is just inevitable. | |
| What do you think about all that? | |
| I do think that there were some pretty significant warning signs yesterday. | |
| The media is always going to overblow, you know, that they're always going to blow things out of proportion. | |
| I will preface this with this, though. | |
| In a larger turnout electorate, New York 19's fallen to Republicans. | |
| In a larger turnout electorate, New York 23 is going to go back to a double-digit win for Republicans. | |
| The problem is getting those voters out in a larger electorate, Jack. | |
| And I think even looking around from New York to Florida, I saw signs that Republicans have a problem getting voters out on their own, you know, for these specials. | |
| There were also competitive races in New York on the Democratic side that Republicans did not have in the Hudson Valley. | |
| So you already had more Democrats that wanted, that were going out to vote for these other races. | |
| So that's something to keep in mind. | |
| But I did see some warning signs in areas in South Florida, Florida 27, Maria Salazar. | |
| You know, that looks like it's going to be closer than it should. | |
| Maria Salazar lost in 18 to Donna Shalala. | |
| She won in 2020. | |
| And I know this because we polled it. | |
| There were a lot of new right Hispanic voters who love Donald Trump and basically just said, you know what, whoever's got an R next to their name, I'm going to give it to them. | |
| So, you know, without Donald Trump on the ballot, can Maria Salazar perform as well? | |
| I think the answer is no. | |
| Now, I'm not saying she's going to lose, but there's, you know, this new coalition forming on the right. | |
| And it's a bigger, better coalition. | |
| It's just a matter of these are lower propensity voters and they don't tend to go out and vote all the time without Donald Trump helping them along or pushing them to do so. | |
| They're skeptical of Republicans still. | |
| But the problem is, and not the problem, but see what you're saying, it's the exact, I think what you're saying is right, by the way, but it's the exact opposite of what the media is saying. | |
| Because here, let's play a clip and get your response to it. | |
| Guys, play clip 55 about New York 19. | |
| Pat Ryan, the Democrat, has been elected to Congress in a special election from New York's 19th congressional district. | |
| He defeats Republican Mark Molinaro. | |
| This is a significant victory, not just for Pat Ryan in this district. | |
| This is a significant victory for Democrats nationally, because it gets to the heart of the question that we've been asking politically for the last two months, Ned, is whether the political climate in this country has changed, specifically in the wake of the Supreme Court ruling that overturned Roe versus Wade. | |
| That is the narrative that they have been pushing so hard. | |
| Politico is saying the same thing in political playbook. | |
| Oh, it's Roe v. Wade, it's Roe v. Wade, it's Dobbs. | |
| I mean, I keep hearing this from the media, Rich, but I don't see it. | |
| And you're not saying it. | |
| What are you seeing? | |
| Yeah, and I mean, we're just not seeing that in the polls either. | |
| I mean, it's just not true. | |
| This has nothing to do with Roe v. Wade. | |
| This has to do with a special election that drew 120,000 voters in a district where there are well over 300,000 in a general election. | |
| You know, when you have these special elections with lower turnouts, you get a lot more ancestral voting behavior, ancestral party voting behavior, meaning, you know, those new voters who are persuadable, going one party over the other, those trends are really not picked up until general elections come along and there's a wider electorate there. | |
| The problem, well, they don't want to give Donald Trump any credit. | |
| That's really what this comes down to. | |
| The real problem is that in New York, in California, in places where Donald Trump was not involved in these fights, we did not see historic turnout. | |
| In areas like Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Ohio, even Georgia, where the president lost that fight, the one and only place he lost. | |
| Turnout was historic. | |
| And in places like California and New York, it's where he wasn't a presence. | |
| It's anemic. | |
| And that is the problem. | |
| Republican voters are not as motivated as they were in, you know, everywhere, I should say, as they were a couple of months ago. | |
| You know, it's when the president gets involved, you know, he gets those juices pumping, man. | |
| The base wants to go out and vote. | |
| But in this race, Kevin McCarthy and, you know, the establishment in general, they thought Molinaro, being from Dutchess County, was going to outperform. | |
| They didn't want Trump anywhere near it. | |
| They didn't want him anywhere around these races. | |
| They thought they had this in the bag. | |
| They did. | |
| They believed Molinaro was going to win by at least five points, maybe a double-digit blowout. | |
| They over, you know, they were wrong. | |
| And I like Steve Kornacki. | |
| He's the only one I like at MSNBC, but he's wrong. | |
| He's wrong about this. | |
| It is a significant win for Democrats, but he's wrong about why. | |
| If you would have exit polled those voters on the way out, they are not going to tell you. | |
| You would not have heard, I voted against Molinaro because of Dobbs. | |
| You would not have heard that. | |
| The difference is that he did so much better. | |
| Ryan did so much better in Ulster County, where he's from, and he won educated burbs by a larger margin. | |
| The working class vote was not as big. | |
| It's that simple. | |
| It really is. | |
| Another 40,000 votes. | |
| He loses by 10 points. | |
| By that same token, talk about the Sabatini race. | |
| This was something that where we also saw some of this leadership get involved. | |
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| Yeah. | |
| They dumped a lot of money to help Mills. | |
| McCarthy played his hand well there. | |
| He knew it was a race that Trump was not going to get involved in. | |
| I don't know how much I want to go into detail about that, but there are just some people that surround themselves with others. | |
| And Trump, he likes his people. | |
| Give us the details. | |
| We want the detail. | |
| That's what we go to Richard Barris for. | |
| Sabatini wasn't helped by the right people. | |
| And sometimes, if you go, let me just put it this way: if you have certain consultants around you, you're going to be blacklisted by the NRCC. | |
| If you get blacklisted by the NRCC, then you better be in good with Donald Trump or the NRC is going to come after you. | |
| And if those very same people piss the NRCC off and Donald Trump's people off, then you're screwed. | |
| I mean, it's that simple. | |
| And, you know, that's, I think that's a tragedy there for the base because Sabatini is by far the MAGA candidate. | |
| It just, it didn't. | |
| And then, by the way, that same token, it hindered your ability to raise money. | |
| And Mills, he had help from McCarthy. | |
| He did not have a blacklist on him for fundraising. | |
| And Sabatini has been a thorn in people's side because he is MAGA. | |
| So he was already running with that handicap. | |
| So, you know, at the end of the day, Jack, he didn't get his message across. | |
| It's crowded, yes, but he didn't get his message across. | |
| And Mills didn't, you know, talking about this idea of the student loans. | |
| Will the student loans be enough to buy off the younger voters? | |
| Maybe, maybe not, right? | |
| Because we're also hearing, you know, a lot of these younger voters, a lot of younger people are saying they're going on board. | |
| I hear this with millennials all the time. | |
| I don't care about owning a house. | |
| That sounds like a lot of work. | |
| It's like they are falling right into the World Economic Forum trap, this great reset agenda of what do we need that for? | |
| I don't need a house. | |
| I don't need a car. | |
| I don't need a family. | |
| They care so much about climate change. | |
| That is their Gaia. | |
| That is their lodestar, their guiding light in terms of the world. | |
| And they don't think that Joe Biden is doing enough about it, even though the Inflation Reduction Act really was a backdoor Green New Deal. | |
| It just hasn't been painted as such for moderate voters. | |
| And so they're not talking, they don't actually give him any credit for it. | |
| I don't think. | |
| Are Republicans doing what they need to do? | |
| Are they closing? | |
| Are they closing the deal with these midterm elections? | |
| And if not, what do they need to do? | |
| Yeah, I think, you know, it would be unfair to wrap them all up together. | |
| Some are doing great, but ultimately, what happens here, Jack, without in the absence of a sitting president being the face of a political party, you have the leaders in the House and in the Senate being the faces. | |
| They're the ones who come to the microphone. | |
| They're the ones who put out the agendas on social media and then talk to the voters in a national space. | |
| And that being said, neither Kevin McCarthy or Mitch McConnell are particularly representative of a modern Republican voter and definitely not representative of those lower propensity voters that really made up that, you know, the groundswell of MAGA turnout. | |
| So I think you compare it before to 94. | |
| It was completely, it made sense and people were in lockstep with it. | |
| Newt Gingrich had that contract with America and everyone knew the talking points. | |
| Everyone delivered on them. | |
| Maybe a couple of months ago, Kevin McCarthy looked like he was going to come out with one himself, something like that. | |
| He does technically have one. | |
| You wouldn't be able to name even the three out of five bullet points on it because nobody knows what they are. | |
| Many people that I spoke to that remember some of this, all they remember is that they mocked him for the parent, the way that he delivered the parents' Bill of Rights. | |
| So it is not the close that we've seen them make before. | |
| In 2010, it was Obamacare. | |
| In 2014, it was kind of like Obamacare 2.0. | |
| Here, it's nothing. | |
| And, you know, you have a major problem when leaders are funding a lot or helping the Biden agenda in a lot in a lot of these ways. | |
| It's hard to send $50 billion to Ukraine, man, and then complain about inflation. | |
| You know, so made the same exact comment right before he came on. | |
| It's incoherent. | |
| You're complaining about socialism when it comes to these handouts for the student loan debt forgiveness, but at the same time, we're rubber stamping every single, it seems like a billion dollars a week feels like a billion dollars a week. | |
| And then videos of Mitch McConnell, you know, pop up. | |
| You know, I think Merrick Garland, I told Trump Merrick Garland should be the next attorney general. | |
| I mean, this is crazy. | |
| This is not, this was something I was concerned about for Republicans going into this primary cycle and why I said it was so important that MAGA candidates win. | |
| They're going to have to do their thing. | |
| They really are. | |
| And that's, you know, having each individual race, you know, localized like that makes it infinitely harder than when you have a national message that everyone's behind. | |
| And the truth is, you know, they want to win primaries on a message that they don't really believe in. | |
| You know, when I'm talking about these leaders. | |
| So when they, when it's time to pivot, they can't. | |
| And in your opinion, does it seem as though that there are some Republicans at the national level that would be okay with losing? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| I mean, I've been saying this now for a while, and I was deadly serious. | |
| You know, of course, Kevin McCarthy wants to be speaker, but he does not want to be speaker of a house with a massive majority of new MAGA Republicans. | |
| He doesn't want to be Boehner. | |
| He remembers what happened to John Boehner, and he doesn't want to end up in that same category. | |
| So he is okay with losing some of these races if it means the situation doesn't get out of control. | |
| Unpacked that. | |
| What happened to Boehner? | |
| Well, Boehner couldn't control the Tea Party grounds well that came beneath his feet. | |
| He was, he, you know, they did at first anyway, you know, support his speakership, but then they wanted something. | |
| You know, they dared to want something from him, and that was to deliver on those promises. | |
| But Boehner never really believed in those promises. | |
| So it was a constant fight between all of these new members of this movement with the establishment who is just completely happy to control the opposite, to be controlled opposition and to manage decline. | |
| So you look at Mitch McConnell. | |
| The fact is, you know, seniority is currency in Washington, D.C. in the Congress. | |
| So he's good. | |
| He's going to get his benefactors' bills. | |
| They're going to be in there. | |
| They won't advance. | |
| It's that simple. | |
| He doesn't really need to be in the majority to make that happen for his people. | |
| You know, so what he doesn't want is JD Vance and Blake Masters and, you know, whoever else. | |
| You come constantly breathing down his throat. | |
| This isn't MAGA. | |
| This isn't what we were elected for. | |
| The American people did not give you the majority again to do this or that. | |
| They don't want that without a doubt. | |
| I think you're right. | |
| I think that's why you're getting these statements from McConnell saying, having issues with candidate quality. | |
| Where can people go to follow you? | |
| I know you got the live streams going out. | |
| I think you're going to be doing more of those. | |
| Give us your coordinates. | |
| Yeah. | |
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