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Aug. 24, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Blowing the Whistle on the 'G Word' with Libs of TikTok and Saurabh Sharma
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Truth Social Follower Count 00:09:14
Is social media cracking down before the midterms?
This is Jack Posovic here in for Charlie Kirk.
Charlie's on assignment.
Libs of TikTok and Sarab Sharma join us to talk about what's happening and what can be done about social media.
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I've been reading them all, folks.
I've been reading them all.
But wanted to also let you guys know that we're joined by the very amazing, the fabulous Libs of TikTok.
Libs, thank you so much for coming on, joining us today here at the Charlie Kirk program.
Hi, Doc.
It's such an honor to be here with you.
I'm super excited.
So, so you and I, we just got put on a couple of lists.
I think we've been talking about the G word.
We've been talking about a whole bunch of stuff.
Why is it that they go after you so hard when all you do is literally repost TikTok videos?
That's it.
Well, I think it's really hard for them to see what they themselves believe in.
And they thought for so long and they still think that, you know, they can just do whatever they want to do, groom kids and doctorate goods, and no one would notice.
And it's like, and they could also gaslight us and say, you know, it's not happening, like they famously did with CRT and with the grooming in schools.
And then I come and I'm like, here, this is you guys saying that it is happening.
And it just throws a wrench in their whole agenda and they can't stand to see it.
Now, did I see, and you've experienced a few bans lately, right?
So what kind of bans have you been getting?
Because they're coming down hard on you over this Boston Children's Hospital story that you've been working on.
What kind of responses have you been seeing and bans over the last few days?
I think they're running scared.
I mean, just in the last few days, I've just been temporarily banned from Facebook, but I'm back up now.
But previously, I was banned, I think, three times from Twitter temporarily.
I was banned from TikTok.
I was banned from Linktree.
I was banned from another service that I used to use to manage my emails.
And they're just, they're banning me left and right.
They're so scared.
Well, and this is why, and we haven't, we actually haven't talked about the story very much today, but I know that you, you use Truth Social.
I'm on there.
Actually, one thing, you know, I've noticed that you have slightly more followers than me on Truth Social, but like not that much.
I'm like, all right, I got to catch up with libs a little bit.
Guys, go follow Doc on truth.
Yeah, I know, right?
But we actually saw the news this morning that broke, and I have we've been talking about the FBI all day.
I didn't have much time to talk about this yet, was that Truth Social just announced that they're going to be partnering with Rumble Ads.
This is a huge deal because now it means that there's going to be a monetizable feature for Truth Social.
We're seeing more and more of this parallel economy growing up.
It's incredible for creators, for people like you who essentially you're running your business through social media, through the internet.
True Social, Justin, we've got the story here from Globe Newswire.
Truth Social joins Rumble's ad team ad platform as first provider.
This is huge.
So, as someone who's a creator like yourself, and I think you've said it before, I've heard you say that you never really intended to become this big.
How big of a deal is it to you to be able to have this feature now through true social and potential others in terms of parallel economy actually be able to fund your mission?
I think it's incredible.
I think we really need more avenues for getting our message out because we know obviously we can't rely on big tech.
We can't rely on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, YouTube.
So, it's really important that we have other platforms to be able to send our message that we know we're not going to be censored on, and not just to spread our message, but to also be able to monetize that.
I think that's really important and it's great news.
And so, one of the hugest deals with this is that when we understand they want to shut people down, they want to shut down this ability to monetize.
They want to shut down this ability for people in the movement, right, to be able to grow because you have to be able to have to monetize, you have to grow the movement, you have to get everything in place.
Because we know that networking and bringing people together, if we're on just their networks, they will starve us.
They will starve every single one of us and they can start the movement.
As you said, the left pays its activists.
Yet on the right, we haven't seen that structure built up yet.
Because I keep saying this, the right is a generation behind the left when it comes to this stuff.
And so, now we're finally getting to the place where we're seeing.
Because, of course, you know, you go up on Instagram Reels, you try to go Facebook monetization, they will ban the right 10 times more than the left.
And I want to ask you about: do you even realize, or what do you say about the impact that you've had?
I think you've done more to expose these people with their own words, by the way, their literal owners than anyone in recent memory.
You're arguably the biggest threat to wokeness in America right now.
Did you ever realize that you would have this kind of impact?
Uh, never realized, and people ask me all the time, uh, you know, at what point when was it that you realized?
And I'm like, I don't, I don't think I could pinpoint a specific time that I was like, oh, wow, I'm onto something really great.
This is going to be huge.
I, it just, it was, it all progressed just naturally.
Um, and it wasn't, there was no calculated decision in the beginning, you know, I have to start exposing this, and this is what I'm going to do, and this is the plan.
It all just happened naturally, it progressed, and it became this huge, influential force for exposing the left.
And I, I mean, I guess when I first started seeing my content being used, um, like on Fox News, like Tucker was playing a video that I had, and I'm like, wow, I guess that was, you know, that's really cool.
Now, now, obviously, I'm used to it, but um, when it first started, I guess, being picked up, that's when by all these big media outlets, that's that's when I was like, wow, I think I'm on to something big.
Well, and what's what's crazy to me is that it's you know, people will say, Oh, you're you're doing this, you're targeting people, you're going after them.
Um, you've been doxxed by Taylor Renz, you've been harassed by her, your family's been harassed by her.
Then at the same time, they'll go and do the exact same tactics to you and to your family that they claim you're doing.
But again, all you're doing is taking videos that people have publicly posted on social media, in many cases, people who are in positions of authority, whether that's in political, whether it's medical, social, economic, doesn't matter.
You're actually out there on the front lines doing the work where these, you know, these people, you know, they want to misquote.
All you're doing is reposting.
Which group, though, do you find most guilty when it comes to in your research?
Would you say it was it teachers?
Is it educators?
Is it medical?
Which group would you say?
I want to say teachers.
I've been focusing on that a lot over the past year.
I've posted dozens and dozens and dozens of not just teachers, educators too.
So there's principals, professors.
But now we're starting to expose, you know, quite a few hospitals.
I'm actually dropping a thread as soon as I'm done this interview, another children's hospital.
And this is opening up a whole nother door.
And the more I dig into it, the more petrifying this is and horrifying.
And we see what's going on in the medical field.
And now this is what I'm going to be focusing on now.
But I would say the teachers are, there's a lot of groomer teachers, a lot.
And then it's kind of like a pipeline, I guess.
They're bringing them into the children's hospitals to start their gender journey.
And then they're getting mutilated and castrated.
And it's just, it's so, it's so horrifying.
But I'm going to do everything I can to expose every single last one of them.
I would love to, because this, this is absolutely fascinating.
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The fact that, you know, we were talking before about the problems in our government, but I think you're going right to the heart of the issue.
These are the problems, not out in the imperial capital.
No, these are in every schoolhouse.
Fargo, North Dakota was banning the Pledge of Allegiance.
They got it back.
But this is happening so far because it's been so pervasive.
And because of your work, and I want people to understand it, go follow LibDiv TikTok across all platforms.
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So, Lib, some of the stuff that you deal with is actually very dark.
And I want people to understand that because it's not just the groom.
So, the grooming is the top of the funnel.
That's a top of the funnel activity here: the selection, the grooming process, munch housing by proxy.
Because I think a lot of this really is munchausen by proxy.
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That's when the mothers, it's typically the mother, not always, but they push this gender identity on the children.
Sometimes it's by teachers, but it also gets to the point where physical surgery is involved.
And that's something that you cover.
So, tell me, what are you uncovering that's going on in our country when it comes to what's essentially the mutilation of our children?
So, yeah, the left will gaslight us and say that minors are not receiving gender-affirming surgery.
And when I say gender-affirming, I mean double mastectomies, thallopasty, vaginopasties.
They never give you the exact context because they don't want you to know what they're referring to.
They'll just say gender-affirming because it sounds really nice and sweet, and you're just helping a child.
But in actuality, they are chopping off healthy body parts of young kids.
And the more I'm looking into all of these children's hospitals, the more I'm realizing how common this is.
So, almost every single hospital that I've looked at so far, and I have quite a few already lined up that I'm looking into and preparing reports on.
They're all doing mastectomies on minors.
And the world, the WPAF guidelines, they just changed their guidelines to actually say that you can do, they want to lower the age for surgeries and for puberty blockers, for cross-sex hormones.
So, this is happening.
It's happening probably in every single state.
And it is, it is, it's so horrifying.
Um, and there's, I mean, we this has to stop.
Like, there's no other way.
And I'm going to post every single one that I find.
I'm going to post every single one.
I'm going to call out every single hospital, and they're going to have to answer for why they are chopping off the genitals and the breasts of healthy kids and suppressing kids' puberty.
And there's a lot of negative side effects, and they're giving kids cross-sex hormones.
And they've just been doing this for years, and nobody has been doing anything about it.
God bless you for digging into this, for exposing the fact that we have this festering wound in our country.
I don't know if you saw it, but we had Diva Fry on yesterday, and he explained that Canada, Canada, which is ahead of us on this, they're ahead of the curve.
They're going out there full-on.
Not only is euthanasia being allowed across the country, but they're also going to, I believe next year, the TrueGo government is either going to do this.
They're going to be allowing mature minors to choose medically assisted euthanasia over what they deem anxiety, mental health issues, stress.
So, they're pushing all of this, like the things that you just talked about, they're pushing all that in Canada, but now they're adding the additional element of allowing euthanasia for what they call mature.
Yeah, I mean, there's, I don't think there's such a thing as a mature minor.
So, a minor can't consign.
And up until a few years ago, everybody agreed on that.
And suddenly, they're changing.
The left is changing the definitions of everything and they're changing all these things that were known to be fact.
And it's really harming their kids.
I mean, the reason that they are criminalizing the use of the word, I'm just going to say it, the word groomer.
The reason they're doing this is because, and this is the cycle, right?
First, they say it's not happening.
Then they say it's a conspiracy.
Then they say, okay, it's happening, but it's a good thing.
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And then they'll say, okay, it's happening, but you can't call it that because that's a slur and you get banned if you say that.
They're doing that because of your work, because of your effectiveness.
And I commend you for what you do.
Continue to post the videos.
And if we get banned everywhere else, guess what?
We've got truth, we've got Getter, we've got Rumble, we've got all of these new facets of the parallel economy.
They can't stop us anymore.
Libs of TikTok, what are you working on?
You just mentioned you've got the thread coming out.
Where should people go?
They can follow you, get access to your work.
So you can go to my sub stack, livesoftiktok.com, or just go on sub stack and find me.
That's where I drop my bigger stories, my more important stories that require more context and information than just a Twitter card could provide.
And I'm also dropping a massive bombshell on my sub stack this week, an exclusive bombshell.
You don't want to miss it.
So sign up to my sub stock so you can receive all my updates.
And of course, if we get suspended from everywhere, that's how I'm going to be able to continue spreading the word.
All right, Libs of TikTok, God bless you.
God bless you.
God bless your crusade in your fight for our children and the most vulnerable in this country.
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Trump Agency Reform Ideas 00:15:35
We're talking what should be done with the FBI.
The FBI are placing it on our medical examination table.
What should be done with these people?
They've gone, they've raided President Trump.
They defiled Mar-a-Lago.
We've now got the emails from John Solomon.
They broke their own protocol.
They didn't follow it.
They jumped the gun, jumped the fence, and decided to slam them.
And we were talking to some congressmen about reforming them.
We're talking to others about defunding the entire thing.
Dr. Julie Kelly, who said dismantle the whole deal.
John Solomon came on and said, let's create new agencies, divide the powers up.
There's a lot of things that are going on, but this plan, this idea of potentially turning, you know, taking or stripping them of their national security powers, putting it back into agencies that are only made for that purpose, and then not crossing the streams between national security and criminal cases, which it seems like that's the crux point that they still do again and again.
We've got so much going on.
We also have this Twitter whistleblower coming out.
So to help me chop some of the wood in terms of all that, we've got Shrub Sharma, who's here.
Thanks for having me.
He is the founder and president of American Moment, right?
Founder and President.
That's right.
And we are going to be going through in terms of all of this.
So when you would, let me just get your take.
I don't know if I've heard it on the shortly here on the show, but this Mar-a-Lago raid.
And then obviously, I mean, I'm assuming you're probably against it.
Yes.
I am, in fact, against political persecution.
Good, good, good.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
Otherwise, I have to have security drag out here.
But when it comes to the FBI, we have to figure out what we're going to do.
And we have to come up with a plan to actually deal with that, not just in the new Congress, but for when we do have the next president.
I do believe, I personally believe that that's going to be Donald Trump.
It will be the 47th president, or maybe it's 45 plus one.
I don't know how it works, right?
But when it comes down to it, walk me through your theory of the case on what happened there.
How do we get to this point?
Well, I think that there's a lot of different mistakes that Republicans and conservatives have made over the last 20 to 30 years that get you to the point where the FBI is completely co-opted in this way.
The biggest, I think, is that there was never any punishment for law enforcement and our national security agencies when they drifted left, when they weaponized law enforcement against their political enemies over the last 30 years.
You can see a lot of national Republicans that maybe don't understand what time it is in the country right now over the past few days say, well, well, you know, we oppose the raid on Mar-a-Lago, but we really, you know, we don't dislike the FBI and we need to be careful about our rhetoric.
I get that sentiment.
It's ultimately really mistaken because this is how the FBI has preserved its power and continued to drift left over the last few decades is that when they do something that pisses off the left, they get reprimanded in a really serious way.
There's congressional investigations, they lose funding, employees get fired, et cetera.
When they do something that pisses off the right, by and large, you get a tepid response from Washington because congressional leadership and the deep state are very deeply tied in with the leaders of the FBI.
And all conservative elites and media figures say is they'll wave a magic wand that says it's law enforcement and suddenly we're not allowed to criticize it.
That mindset needs to change.
And there's all sorts of different policy processes.
Here's the line that I threw this out on Twitter.
I've said on the show a couple of times.
I said, you can be pro-police and anti-police state.
Right, right.
It's not the same thing.
Yeah, we want law enforcement.
We're conservatives, right?
You know, we do want someone to be there actually enforcing the laws.
If it's child sex trafficking, if it's Twitter allowing these, you know, foreign agents to be wrapped up in their infrastructure, which apparently is something that's coming out with this whistleblower, if it's people robbing banks, if it's human smuggling on the border.
Sure, I want law enforcement to deal with these things.
I don't think that's something that should be the purview or should not be the purview of government in general.
But it's this idea that, as John Solomon outlined for us, is that we're now mixing national security agencies with criminal agencies.
And that was one of the biggest criticisms of what we did by making this superpowered, supercharged FBI in the wake of 9-11.
Right.
And to be very specific about why that's problematic, because I think sometimes this stuff can get a little bit esoteric for people.
The entire point of our national security agencies is they have powers that normal domestic law enforcement does not.
The reason why is because it usually applies to foreign citizens when it comes to their purview.
They have the ability to engage in things that we would rightfully recognize as unconstitutional and illegitimate when applied to domestic citizens of the United States.
And so when you have these duties blend together, when the line between the FBI and the CIA and the NSA starts to get blurred, you'll find that the guardrails, the checks and balances that exist in our system to ensure that ordinary patriots' constitutional rights are protected, they start to go away.
And what you've seen over the last few years, especially since President Trump came on the scene, is that former intelligence officials use the language of national security threats to talk about their political enemies, to talk about MAGA, to talk about America first, precisely so that they can set the table for this kind of abuse of power.
Well, right.
And you saw this, I mean, to put it in context for everybody.
So it wasn't that, remember, well, oh, no, we're not spying on General Flynn.
We're spying on the Russian ambassador.
We're spying on the people he's talking to.
But then we can unmask the name and then leak it to everybody, not only inside the Washington apparatus, but also to David Ignatius over at the Washington Post and say, oh, well, now here's all these highly classified, right?
You know, by the way, if we're talking about classified, I know not to play the double standard game, but that is actually one.
David Ignatius, somebody leaked that classified intelligence to him.
That was definitely top secret SCI.
And I don't recall anyone ever going to jail for leaking that to the Washington Post.
Do you?
Well, because in Washington, the establishment media has more of a right to actually, you know, see top secret information than any conservative president that gets elected.
People will say that to you open-handedly.
They'll say, well, the Washington Post, the New York Times, they're actually trustworthy.
Meanwhile, Michael Flynn, Donald Trump, the people he appointed to the presidency, those people can't be trusted because there's some sort of threat to democracy.
Meanwhile, you look at the actual results of the Trump administration, unprecedented peace and prosperity, and one of the most norms following presidents in American history, full stop, you're starting to see the backlash with what the Biden administration has actually done, where Merrick Garland has proven himself to be a complete and utter hack and these double standards are revealing themselves.
But right, I mean, the mainstream media gets to be hypocritical because it's not about hypocrisy, it's hierarchy, and they're at the top of the hierarchy.
Right.
And so, and I do hear this, and you know, that we do every we do everyone, we do every once in a while have to bring these up because it's just something throughout, but we're using it to illustrate a broader point: is that this hierarchy has been built on top of our constitution.
It's certainly built on top of our moon, but in many cases, it's been built with the support of our movement.
And when I hear, and I'm just going to say it, when I hear Sean Hannity say, well, I used to say that it was 99% of the FBI was good.
Maybe now it's only 95% of the FBI that's good.
I'm like, Sean, you know, no, man, you know, how long are you going to let these people snow you, right?
If we're talking about reforming them or Solomon has this idea, maybe new agencies and divide the powers up, however, it looks like, I say, take the 14 whistleblowers, put them in charge of whatever the new thing that's coming up.
But something that American Moment focuses on so much, and I wanted to ask you about this, is it's staffing, right?
It's staffing, getting the right people, because we certainly learned that with the Trump administration.
Personnel is policy.
Walk us through what you guys do and why that's your theory of the case.
So really, we founded our organization after the Trump administration kind of showed what happens when conservatives have a real opportunity to make change and in some cases, whiff at the ball because they didn't have the people that they needed in order to implement their agenda.
President Trump was undermined by people inside his own administration every single day by the political appointees that he nominated in order to help enact his agenda across the agencies and in the executive branch.
Here's an example of what maybe could have been.
Instead of doing the traditional Republican thing, which is nominate FBI insiders, respected career officials up to the top, bring someone in who's a reformer who will actually take a critical eye to the corruption of the agency, the waste, fraud, and abuse, and the mistakes that they've made and actually reform it.
Make them pay a price for the things that Peter Strzzok and Lisa Page and all these people, Jim Comey, were doing during the last year's deal.
I always say that when it comes to Peter Strzzok, when it was you want to understand how the federal bureaucracy looks at Trump supporters, go look at that text from Peter Strzok when he says, I see Trump supporters and I can smell Walmart.
I can smell Walmart on them.
And here's the thing, and you don't have to name names, but I guarantee that I don't even have, I haven't asked you this before off air.
You've probably heard that same sentiment from both sides of the aisle, haven't you?
Oh, absolutely.
There's plenty of Republicans and conservatives in DC that if they went to a local Tea Party meeting or a local GOP club, they'd have utter contempt for every single person in the room around them.
They don't actually like their voters.
Say what you want about Democrats.
Maybe they like their voters, maybe they don't, but at least they pretend to, and they're very good at protecting their client interests.
Just look today, they're giving them student loan forgiveness.
They do these massive welfare programs.
There's plenty of cash for your side.
Meanwhile, on the right in DC, the last thing you can talk about is how should we enact an agenda that actually benefits the interests of our voters as opposed to the moneyed interests on Wall Street or Fortune 500 companies or their friends in this town.
Most Republicans and conservatives in DC have utter contempt for the voters.
And that's one of the things that I think needs to change the mindset we have when it comes to what people come to this town to do.
Look, there's always going to be things that need to be done in DC.
There's always going to be a class of people who have to move the levers of power and get things done when we elect conservative presidents, congressmen, and create public policy organizations.
I'd like to help fill them with people who actually like the voters of this country and are interested in implementing an agenda that would benefit them and their interests.
And so when we're talking about this, you know, we're not just talking, by the way, about congressmen, we're also talking about staffers.
And that's something you focus particularly on.
Why is it that you focus on staffers?
Because a thousand times over the last few decades, a lot of really great people in a congressional district will get together.
They'll elect one of their own to go to DC, represent their interests.
They're so excited.
He's conservative.
He's going to fight.
And he comes to DC and he whiffs.
He's almost universally worse than the person that the voters elected him to be.
This is the story of basically every single Republican congressman.
Oh, right.
My favorite example.
Sure, that's a great example.
And how does that happen?
Is that this town, the staff that actually member of Congress able to do his job, the 10 to 20 people that they end up hiring, they have way more influence over the work product that comes out of your average congressional office and how a member of Congress votes than any voter realizes.
And so if they're surrounded by people when they come to DC that are, you know, really the kinds of people who work for either party, who don't particularly care about any issues, they don't care about the voters.
They're just here to go along, get along, collect a paycheck.
No wonder conservative congressmen drift towards the center over time, even become left-wing.
This is a story that unfortunately isn't going to change unless we start to pay attention to the people who no one elects.
These 23 to 29 year olds in some cases that end up running the show because every member of Congress is busy traveling back and forth from the district.
They're spending time with their family.
They're raising money.
They're going on.
They're not reading bills.
And so the question is: who is reading those bills and how do we make sure that it's the right people who share the America First agenda?
I think people need to know that we do have a program and there are programs.
Turning point, obviously, is another group that focuses on this.
Turning point is always looking to identify people coming up that are younger but are on board with everything that we ascribe to, but also understand the need of reforms.
Look, someone feels like they just want a job.
They just want a job.
They want to do the next thing.
Then they see some, you know, some nonprofits and NGOs.
They go there.
Oh, how much money can I make?
Am I going to have a cool title?
Whatever.
Am I going to get a TV maybe?
And that's it.
And that's the entire White House, the Biden White House right now, is full of those people.
They're running the White House right now.
But I want to cut that off at its knees and I want to actually start something real.
We're just seeing news coming across the desk.
Just since this morning, eight videos from Charlie Kirk, 10 Don Jr. demonetized a mass demonetization is underway on Facebook of conservative videos prior to the midterm elections.
We're basically in the middle of the midterm elections now.
Of course, we're doing it in the August lull before we get back into the fall and more people are paying attention.
Yesterday, we had the story that TikTok and Facebook are joining up.
TikTok, by the way, is going to be censoring people based on quote election misinformation.
They're going to be knocking down on this stuff.
Then, and we were just talking about this, the Twitter whistleblower has come out this morning talking about all the national security threats of Twitter, the fact that this thing has been a revolving door for foreign intelligence agencies since its inception, probably, not to mention lying about bots and spam and everything else.
So it looks like Elon Musk may have actually been right on that.
But in the face of that, and so I want to get your take on this because you're a systems guy, and that's why I like talking to you: is that, and over at American Moment, that's what you focus on: the system.
What do we do with this system?
Is this parallel economy?
Truth and Rumble, massive news this morning.
Creators can get paid now by going to truth, posting videos.
I hope Getter unlocks reveals something like this.
But why is it so important that conservatives and just people who aren't on board with the establishment are building these new structures now?
It's extremely important because the story when it comes to tech platforms is actually very similar to the story when it comes to the FBI, an institution that got away with murder for the last several decades, actually being held to account.
The same thing needs to happen with the tech platforms.
It needs to happen across our entire economy.
What have YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, all these mainstream platforms done over the last decade?
They basically took it for granted that the only activists that they had to listen to were the ones on the far left, that they could censor people, that they could demonetize content, that they could close the Overton window of what's acceptable to post on these platforms purely against the right for years.
And what did this town say?
It said, oh, that's fine.
That's the free market.
No worries.
And all of a sudden, Johnny come lately, Republicans are starting to pay attention to the big tech issue, but it might be too late.
And so, in parallel with actually regulating these companies, fighting them on Section 230, antitrust, and all these other issues, we need to be building actual alternatives because these incumbents are ripe for takedown.
They're old.
They're constantly obsessed with social justice.
They're not actually innovating anymore.
And so, when companies like Truth and Rumble and alternative payment processors and manufacturing companies and consumer goods come up, we need to patronize them.
Now, look, I understand why it can sometimes be difficult, right?
Sometimes these products are not as clean and easy as the incumbents because they haven't had as many years to cook in the oven.
However, when a product comes along that's really trying, that is a baseline, competent, well-run product like Truth, like Rumble, we have a moral responsibility to take a little bit of extra effort to actually put ourselves on there and start putting content there because that's the only way you're actually going to break the incumbent power of these massive corporations is if one of two things happens.
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Either they go away completely because they get completely surplanted by these other platforms, or the actual competition from this perspective forces them to start behaving better and oppress conservative voices.
Well, you know, it's going to get to the point where you're going to have the national security state and big tech platforms working together.
And let's say, if I want to talk about Ruby Ridge, if I want to talk about Waco, if I want to talk about the times that you just said, the FBI literally got away with murder, they're going to say, oh, that's misinformation.
You can't talk about that.
Or if I'm going to say that, well, I'm not sure if I buy the official story on the Las Vegas shooter, for example.
Oh, no, no motive.
And he just felt like doing what?
They're going to say, oh, you're not allowed to do to talk about that because that's harmful to democracy, misinformation, or use whatever line they want to come up with.
Do you think that, and just ask you a final question and then give us your coordinates?
Do you think regulating tech as a utility makes sense?
It does.
It's one of many ideas that I think could work, but it's the pipes.
It's how information is communicated.
To me, it feels like a pipe.
Absolutely.
It feels like a pipe.
It feels like it's a means of communication, means of conveyance of communication.
Where can people find you?
Where can people get access to your work?
AmericanMoment.org at AM Moment.
And I'm at S Sharma US.
All right.
Thank you so much for joining us here, Charlie Kirk Show.
Jack Pesobic filling in.
Make sure to hit subscribe, like freedom at charliekirk.com.
Make sure you're also going everywhere to download the podcast.
Myself, my own Joe, Human Events Daily, 10 p.m. coming up on Real America's Voice.
And folks, I know, I know, I was a little rough on you this morning.
I stressed the system.
We did, but America worked it.
We need to find a way to figure out a way out of this mess.
And that means bringing people together, even if it's somebody that we disagree with on many, issues.
If we can come to agreement on our terms, we can get clarity.
Even if we don't have consensus, we can find clarity and find a way forward.
Jack Kosovic, filling in.
Charlie Kirk is on assignment.
God bless all of you.
Thank you so much for joining us.
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