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Aug. 16, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Protecting Arizona: The Lynchpin of the Republic—with Blake Masters & Kari Lake
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Welcome back, everybody.
We have two very special guests here in the beautiful state of Arizona, Carrie Lake and Blake Masters, otherwise known as Blake and Lake.
I love it.
It's too good.
It rhymes.
I mean, Carrie and Blake, welcome back.
Thanks for having us.
It's good to be here.
Your studio is gorgeous.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And great job last night.
Carrie, let's start with you.
Your initial reaction, pretty packed crowd.
Amazing, right?
You know, for polling that to get, leave it to turning point to be able to pull a crowd like that together.
I loved it because it was a lot of young people.
I think there were new people to politics.
And it's so exciting to see what's happening in this country as people step forward and say, we have to get involved.
We don't have a choice to sit on the sidelines anymore.
Right crowd.
Our data showed that half of the attendees were either independents or were low-propensity voters, which was, I could tell in the audience, you know, when I was giving, let's just say, a rather enthusiastic speech, and, you know, three-fourths of the audience was like standing ovations.
The other ones were like applauding, but they weren't really sure what to make of, you know, part of the remarks.
But I thought it was a good thing.
I was like, I'm glad they're there.
Blake, what was your reaction from last night?
Incredible energy.
It was electric.
The lights were so blinding on stage, you couldn't really see all the people.
I saw photos afterwards.
We had a whole conversation about how the lights were way too bright.
But then you see the photos of all the people there.
And it's standing ovations.
3,500.
And I caught Kerry's speech, and it's just every five seconds people are standing up.
And, you know, I mean, this incredible energy.
I don't want to get complacent and people talk about the red wave.
No, when I see last night, I'm just more sure than ever we're going to have a giant red wave in November.
And you know what was cool?
Usually to get a crowd like that, you have to have President Trump come into town.
And President Trump, if you're watching, we want you to come into town, please.
He's got to come soon.
But this shows you that people are just incredibly motivated right now because they know what's on the line.
So 56% of the attendees were non-traditional GOP voters, first-time voters or former Democrats.
Do you think Katie Hobbs could draw a crowd like that?
Does Mark Kelly do rallies like that?
Mark Kelly would never ever do an event like that, right?
I don't think he could.
And then, of course, they wouldn't let him, even if he could.
Yeah.
So let's talk about, I want to talk about both your races.
It's super important.
And for our national audience, I just want to emphasize this.
And we're going to do this all the way to Election Day.
If you love America, you must focus on Arizona.
There are two candidates you must support, Carrie Lake and Blake Masters.
CarrieLake.com, BlakeMasters.com.
They're going to be outspent rather significantly, but we have to close that gap.
Let's start with you, Carrie.
Your opponent is this very radical, you know, she kind of disguised herself as like this motherly librarian, but she's this super woke kind of activist.
Where is her major funding source coming from?
And just talk a little bit about that.
Well, I mean, she's got George Soros funding her, which is often scary.
And Planned Parenthood funding her, the teachers' union funding her, all the people that are working against what really matters in our lives.
And, you know, what I think is sick is that she was willing to grovel in order to get the Planned Parenthood money, in order to get their endorsement.
It really is about the money, though.
She was willing to grovel and denounce our police officers because that's what it takes to get that endorsement.
I mean, it's a disgusting endorsement, but to get that endorsement, you have to basically denounce our police.
And she was willing to do that.
Doesn't surprise me because the Democrats are the ones behind defund the police.
They've stopped talking about that because they realize it was such a bad idea.
And even the Democrats didn't want that.
But she's getting the money from the usual sources.
I will say this.
I just finished a primary race where I was outspent maybe upwards of 10 to 1.
Unheard of.
I don't think that you can buy an election right now.
I think people are too wide awake.
I totally agree with that.
Yeah, I think that it's closing.
I mean, it used to be that whoever spent more money wins.
That's not the case anymore.
Blake?
Yeah, same.
You know, my opponent, Mark Kelly, he's funded by all the same culprits that are funding Katie Hobbs and your race.
You know, it's Planned Parenthood, it's the unions, it's the teachers' unions.
Mark Kelly makes a big stink about he accepts no corporate, not a dime of corporate PAC money.
And the technicality, of course, Charlie, you know, I've talked about this.
Corporate PACs can only give $5,000.
So yeah, he says, you know, Pfizer, don't donate the $5,000, but he'll go to all the Pfizer executives and rake in the max donations.
Right.
And so he'll be well funded.
He's on TV lying about me and my positions right now.
But the Democrats have to do that.
They have to lie about us because they know their own views are so extreme and their own policy record, their failures are just so obvious to the voters.
They have to lie in order to even have a chance.
I don't think it's...
So I know both of you.
You're both people of deep faith and you give to your church and your community.
We must understand, though, the other side, they're very secular and their political giving is their tithe to their church.
Like the way that we would kind of give to our local community.
A hospital or a local Catholic church, you know, okay, give some money at Christmas.
They look at giving money to Mark Kelly as their religious crusade, as their tithe.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
I never thought of it that way.
Oh, yeah.
And they're the Act Blue machine.
That's right.
Talk about the Act Blue machine.
Both of your races are up against that.
It's, you know, I mean, the Democrats, they're pretty good at this at technology and mobilizing these small dollar donations.
They're good at funding and channeling this money where it needs to go.
So Mark Kelly, like I'm on the phone, I don't know about you.
You're probably on the phone for hours a day raising money, right?
I'm on the phone for four or five hours a day raising money.
That's important.
Mark Kelly doesn't have to lift a finger to raise a lot more money than me because Act Blue, that Democrat machine, they're pretty good at, I don't know if it's technically money laundering, but functionally, they just take it in through all these dark sources and these small dollar contributions and they funnel it to him.
And so he just gets all this money.
Tens of millions.
Tens of millions of dollars to lie on me.
He's up on TV right now, just literally lying about me and my, you know, trying to do kids.
He's coming out strong.
He's trying to end the race before it really begins.
But it doesn't work anymore.
It's like they have some advantages.
They have more money.
They'll have more TV ads.
But like you said, you can't buy an election now.
People are just so mad and they're not going to take it.
Right.
And they're realizing, I mean, you are going to have the viewers, and it's typically the older viewers who will believe the ads, but the younger people just, A, they're not watching TV as much.
And B, they're just not buying that.
I remember turning the TV on and I didn't watch much TV because I was busy during the primary campaign.
My opponent would have three ads on in a commercial break.
One after the other.
I mean, calling me the worst names.
And I'm thinking, wow, I have an advantage that I worked in in the TV market here in Arizona for 27 years.
So I was in people's homes for nearly three decades and they know me.
So when you have your opponent saying just really awful things about you, you're almost attacking, you're almost, you're almost hurting the viewer and saying, you're a bad judge of character.
You know, you're basically saying, we don't like your friend, Carrie.
And I don't think they believed what they were hearing.
So there's a lot of different issues kind of going towards your campaign.
Let's talk about the significance of Arizona, though, because if we don't do well in this November in Arizona, I mean, it could spell doom for the state.
The country.
Yeah, talk about that.
I mean, I know it sounds highly suspect because I'm running, but I think my race is the most important race in the country.
We cannot afford to lose another border state to a socialist.
Look at California.
Look what's going on in New Mexico.
We've got to hold this state and hold it tight.
And we need someone who's going to be tough on the border.
That's why I believe one of the reasons that I won the primary, I had a border plan.
I have a border plan that is going to be the most aggressive, bold border plan that this country's ever seen.
We're going to start implementing it on day one.
And we can't get a Katie Hobbs in there because she's an open borders person.
She's an open borders globalist, and she has no desire to close that border and stop the drugs from coming over.
Scares the heck out of me.
I think Arizonans are onto it, and I think they're going to vote like their lives depend on it because, frankly, our country depends on it.
And that's why we get donations from out-of-state, Charlie.
I am the governor of Arizona.
I will be the governor of Arizona, but this governorship is really almost the governor of other states.
That's a beachhead for so many other states.
Because the border problem impacts every other state.
And, you know, if you're in North Carolina, your governor might care about the border, but he can't do, he or she can't do anything about it because they're not on the border.
It's going to take the border governor of Arizona.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I mean, Katie Hobbs would be the worst governor, the worst governor, certainly, that Arizona's ever seen, probably one of the worst governors in the whole country.
And vote for Kerry Lake, donate to Kerry Lake.
My gosh, like we cannot afford Katie Hobbs, and we need you badly.
So I agree, your race is crucial.
I'm biased.
I think my race is pretty important, too, but they're both really important.
My advice to both of them is just run jointly because your voters are all the same and your appeal is the same.
Go ahead really quick.
And Lake and Blake.
I mean, it's not so good.
It's like Arizona is going to determine who the 51st vote is in the United States Senate, right?
It's going to determine which party controls the upper chamber.
And Mark Kelly, I said yesterday at the turning point rally, Mark Kelly is doing a fantastic job as California's third senator.
That's exactly right.
But as an independent senator for Arizona, which is what he pretends to be, no, he's failing.
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Right and wrong?
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Blake Masters here running for Senate in Arizona.
He is the Republican nominee.
87,000 new IRS agents in the midst of a recession.
Mark Kelly cast one of the deciding votes.
Your thoughts?
The so-called Inflation Reduction Act, right?
Which is so Orwellian.
Anytime the Democrats say, oh, it's the Inflation Reduction Act, you know it's going to do the opposite, which is what this thing is going to do.
So yeah, they're dumb enough to decide to raise taxes on hardworking Americans in the middle of a recession.
And then that wasn't enough.
No, they voted to hire 87,000 new IRS agents.
There's only like 70,000 already.
So this more than doubles the size of the IRS.
You saw the job posting, right?
Some of these people have to be willing to carry a gun and use lethal force if necessary.
It's like, why are we arming the IRS to go use lethal force against people?
Apparently, Mark Kelly loves that.
And you know what really gets me?
In the voter rama, the amendment process, some Republican senator said, hey, Fon, you want to hire the 87,000 IRS agents?
First, you have to hire 20,000 Border Patrol agents.
Yes.
Mark Kelly rejected that.
He literally said no to 20,000 more border patrol agents who we desperately need, and yes to 87,000 new tax collectors to harass Arizona.
This is crazy.
And they're worse than tax collectors, aren't they, Kerry?
I mean, these are harassers.
Yeah.
I mean, what are they going to do?
Come to your door if you don't pay your taxes with the gun?
Pointed that?
And against small businesses, especially.
This is why it's so important to elect Blake because, you know, people will ask me what I think about it.
Obviously, I think it's horrible.
87,000 armed IRS, you know, tax auditors.
And I can't have, I don't have anything to do with that kind of legislation.
It's going to be our senators, and we've got to get someone in there with common sense.
And that's why it's so important.
There's so many issues the feds are doing that affect us at the state level, but that I really wouldn't have any control over.
And we've got to get, I think we need to get two Republican senators, and I hope that we get a good candidate to run against Kirsten Cinema.
Yeah, and that's part of the question, right, Carrie?
So for you, you're saying, though, okay, I'm not going to just say with the border, though, that's a federal issue.
You're going to say, no, this is a state issue.
It's a state issue, yeah.
Which is new because Republican governors haven't done much.
We're going to use the Constitution for our remedy.
I mean, the Constitution, Article 4, Section 4, the guarantee clause, obviously the federal government is supposed to be protecting us.
They're not doing that.
It's a dereliction of duty.
Joe Biden has been worthless.
And so we've got the remedy right there in that same document, Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3.
We're being invaded.
Our citizens are in imminent danger.
And time is of the essence here.
And so we're going to use that clause.
And it's basically state war powers.
And we are going to secure our border starting on day one.
I'm already working.
I've got a working group together, and we're working on our plan to start this on day one.
And Blake, in D.C., you'll give the air support necessary for Arizona to act.
Absolutely.
It's like, I agree with that.
Look, I do think it's a federal prerogative, but you could complain about Joe Biden's dereliction of duty until you're blue in the face.
He's not going to do it.
That's right.
And so I support our state governors, you know, protecting their people.
It's like, I'll do everything I can in D.C. Do you see the tandem, everybody?
Do you see why they're both necessary?
Because you have to have it on the state, and then you also have to have someone who's going to be like, actually, mayor cas, come answer questions for a little bit.
Yeah.
You know, last night, it was so great to have Governor Ron DeSantis, you know, just a great, strong governor.
And he told me when Blake and I were meeting with him that he would send support as well.
We're going to ask other states to help us out.
We'll send the Arizona National Guard, but we need other states to send their national support as well.
He said he would send Florida's National Guard to help out.
And we already know other states will do the same.
It's just a matter of pulling this together and as the states saying we will protect our border because it's affecting every single state.
So people ask me all the time, and by the way, email us your questions for both of them.
CarrieLake, BlakeMasters, CarrieLake.com, BlakeMasters.com.
They have to replenish their coffers.
They just had very expensive primaries, and we're 45 days out from ballots, 45 days out from ballots.
People ask me, Charlie, what is the new right?
Part of what the new right is, is we no longer accept the excuses for our downfall.
Like, oh, well, you know, you're a governor.
You're going to have to wait for a president to do something.
You're saying, actually, we're going to be constitutional about it.
We're going to be creative about it.
We're going to be lawful, but we're going to be precise in our action.
And we can't wait for the federal government.
I mean, we've seen in less than two years the near destruction of our country.
We went from having, I believe, the greatest president ever, maybe definitely of our lifetime and maybe ever, who had us riding high to almost the complete collapse of our country.
This is all of these other issues, actually, when you think about that, that we're losing our country, we're losing the United States of America.
That is the issue that is at task here.
We have to step forward and do what we can to save it.
So, Blake Mayorkis, he's going to be testifying.
You're a U.S. Senator.
How do you handle that?
Well, I think this guy literally needs to be impeached.
Yes.
I will take it to him.
I'm pretty sure we could trip him up.
That's all I like.
God bless Rand Paul for tripping up Fauci.
I think he got Fauci to perjure himself on the stage.
I'm pretty sure I could run circles around Majorkis.
Not sure he's particularly, I don't know, intelligent, but certainly, even if he is intelligent, he's just failing.
He held up his right hand and swore an oath to the Constitution, right?
He swore to faithfully defend and execute the laws of the United States, and he's not even trying.
It's not like they're trying to enforce federal law at the border and failing.
And that incompetence would be costly enough for this country.
No, they've just thrown their hands up.
They've intentionally opened up the southern border.
People are dying because of it.
Arizonans are dying.
He needs to be impeached.
I think we should impeach Joe Biden while we're at it because he's failed at his duties as well.
The only problem is you get Kamala Harrison from office.
Be careful what you wish for, but yeah, I agree.
Email us your thoughts for Carrie Lake and Blake Masters, freedom at charliekirk.com.
We save Arizona.
We save America.
If you love America, you must care deeply and intimately about what's happening in Arizona.
There is no way America is restored as a constitutional republic if we do not win the United States Senate race here in Arizona and we do not win the governor's race.
Period.
End of story.
If you think like, oh, Charlie, why aren't you talking about this city council race in Massachusetts or whatever emails I get?
Those are all very important.
Okay.
I love all races.
Everything you're doing is important.
First of all, I live in Arizona.
That's not why we're doing it, though.
If I lived in Minnesota, I don't know how much I'd be talking about the elections, maybe a little bit.
This is the swing state of all swing states.
Carrie, your thoughts.
Well, it is, especially as it pertains to the governor's race, of both of our races, because the border is such a big issue.
And that's why we need Blake as senator as well, because so much of what happens on the border goes to the federal government.
We are about to take it over and run our border from the state level because we can't count right now on our federal government.
And I go to states, I mean, I've been all over this country and people will tell me, what is going on with your border?
Why is it wide open?
And what can we do to stop that?
Well, we have a plan for it.
It's right there on our website, carrylake.com, K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E.com.
We have the best border plan, the most aggressive border plan the country's ever seen.
It's been endorsed by Brandon Judd with the Border Patrol Council.
Tom Holman, former ICE director, they understand this.
They know what needs to be done on the border, and we need a governor strong enough to act on it.
And on day one, we're going to act on it.
We're going to call it what it is.
It's an invasion on the border.
This is why Arizona is so important wherever you are across the country.
And frankly, this is why we're getting donations, Charlie.
From all across America.
$20 donations, $2,000 donations from all over the country, because people realize that the border issues they're facing in their state, people coming illegally, driving wages down, the fentanyl pouring into their communities, killing our young people.
It all stems from our wide open border in Arizona.
Blake, thoughts on Arizona first?
Then I'm going to go to the next piece of sound here, really quick.
I'm biased, but I literally think it's the most important Senate race in the whole country.
It's a chance to flip a Democrat Senate race.
That's right.
And if we win this Senate seat, and that's what I intend to do here in November, then the Republicans will control the U.S. Senate next year.
If we don't, then the Democrats will have control of the Senate, right?
And the Senate advises and consents on judicial nominations, just to pick one little thing, right?
These are Article III, federal judges.
Biden is just stacking the quirks right now.
God forbid he was able to get two Supreme Court justices in his last two years in office.
It would be such a disaster.
So we've got to block this and win the Senate seat.
And also, I mean, I'm thinking President Trump's going to end up back in the White House.
And we want to have a majority in the Senate that is solid.
That's why we got to have Blake in there.
And if you're planning on voting, vote Republican down the ticket.
The top two races are Blake's and mine, and we appreciate it.
So, Blake, when you go to D.C., you're going to have to deal with this garbage.
This is Jonathan Carl from ABC News actually doing a rare, let's just say, moment of journalism, asking Corrine Jean-Pierre about, isn't it almost Orwellian?
Same thing you're saying.
This is an ABC News reporter challenging the Biden spokesperson, saying, Aren't you kind of being a little Orwellian here?
And listen to this response, and then Blake, I'll let you go from there.
Play cut 27.
But let me ask you: it's called the Inflation Reduction Act, but the Congressional Budget Act office, which is nonpartisan, said that there would be a negligible impact on inflation this year and barely impact inflation at all next year.
I mean, isn't it almost Orwellian?
How can you call it Inflation Reduction Act when the nonpartisan experts say it's not going to be?
I appreciate the question.
We've actually addressed this, the CBO.
It was the top-line number.
There's more in there that shows that it will have the money.
Remember how we're doing this, too.
It's making sure that billionaires in corporate America are paying their fair share of money.
Hey, we've studied the Orwellian nature of the bill.
Blake, your thoughts?
Well, first of all, I'm not sure she's ever read Orwell or I don't think she's running Animal Farmer 1999.
She appreciates the question, and we've actually studied this.
I mean, the Hectoring, right?
She sounds like just the, but it's so typical.
And then she just, maybe she's better than Jen Saki or whatever.
She was pretty bad too, but they never say anything.
It's all disinformation.
It's all misinformation.
And the way they title things, the Affordable Health Care Act, I mean, nothing affordable to that.
It's basically always, as our kids would say, it's opposite day.
It's opposite day.
Whenever you take a piece of legislation that the Democrats craft, just take what it says and go completely the opposite because it's going to make inflation worse.
It's going to make it harder for us to live every day to afford things.
When you're raising taxes on people making as little as $20,000, that's not going to help anyone.
So we have a set of situations here.
Mar-a-Lago was raided last week, and the FBI seems completely and totally out of control.
They target moms and dads that show up at school board meetings, and the media is being very suspicious about all of this.
I want to play a piece of tape again here of Peter Struckstroke Smirk with Joe Scarborough talking about why we should trust the FBI and trust federal law enforcement.
I want to get this piece of tape here.
Okay, play cut 17, please.
Put that out there.
The FBI makes mistakes.
The church makes mistakes.
People make mistakes.
They screw up.
Should this be any reason for Americans not trust that what the FBI and the DOJ are doing now is in pursuit of protecting classified documents?
Well, Joe, absolutely.
The American public should trust what the FBI is doing.
Blake, should we trust what the FBI is doing?
No, we've seen too much.
We've seen too much.
You know, people do make mistakes.
Institutions do make mistakes.
But at this point, you've seen a track record.
You've seen a pattern.
And the weaponization of the DOJ and the FBI under Merrick Garland, under Joe Biden.
Like, this is just clear.
It's clear that they're not following the rule of law.
It's clear that this is political persecution against President Trump.
Everybody knows this is about trying to neutralize Trump and taking him off the table in 2024.
The Democrats, they fear Trump.
They don't want to compete with him at the ballot box.
They don't want to compete with his agenda.
They know they can't compete.
And so, no, the FBI is acting nakedly partisan.
This is political, and it's really scary because it feels like Banana Republic stuff.
Like, it's actually really important.
It's been going on for six, seven years.
I mean, first of all, you're interviewing Peter Strzok.
As the subject matter expert.
MSDNC is interviewing Peter Strzzok.
You know, they've been after President Trump since day one, since before he took office.
They've been trying to bring him down.
And I think Americans are starting to get so I've been sick of it for a long time, but I think even Americans who haven't been paying attention are like, are they still going after Trump?
Why?
Why are they going?
And you hit it.
They know he's going to run again.
I believe he is.
And I think we all probably have seen the signs that he's going to run again.
And they don't, they thought they got rid of him in the 2020 election.
And he's still there and he's still swinging.
And I think he's going to come back.
And they're trying to prevent that.
And it's such a watershed moment in the case of you have a presidential landmark that is raided by federal law enforcement, completely violating the Fourth Amendment.
And there are so many questions.
What's in the affidavit?
Why couldn't they subpoena these documents?
And there's almost no one holding them accountable for this, right?
Republican senators are sending out a couple letters, but this shouldn't be political, right, Blake?
I mean, for years, when you and I were much younger, the left used to complain about the overreach of federal law enforcement.
We don't like if the FBI goes after anybody unnecessarily.
It just so happens it's the Uniparty now going after America first.
Completely right.
You know, the, the, I mean, we support law enforcement.
I like it as decentralized as possible.
So I think federal law enforcement deserves a little bit more scrutiny.
But you need, you need the DOJ.
Like you need an FBI.
They just need to follow the rule of law.
And I think the next task for President Trump when he gets back in office is to literally fire every single partisan operative at these institutions.
You have to clean house.
I don't want Republican Party activists in there.
We don't want them to be partisan on our side.
We want them to be neutral and follow the rule of law.
The rule of law is a foundational principle.
And as soon as you throw it out, you don't have America anymore.
And that's why it's so scary.
If it goes an inch further, I really fear that we lose the country.
It'd be nice if we had real journalists to cover this as a journalist should.
They should see that for what it is and cover that.
But they're so in on it.
I don't hear the media reporting this strange coincidence that the judge who signed the search warrant used to be a lawyer for Jeffrey Epsom.
That's right.
A magistrate judge.
And you only hear a magistrate judge, right?
So not even Article 3 or whatever.
You only hear about this on Twitter.
Where are the journalists?
Education and School Choice 00:09:31
Why are they talking about it?
Maybe it's a coincidence.
Kind of suspect maybe.
Maybe not.
Maybe not.
We're getting a lot of questions here about education.
And both of you are going to have a different way to approach parent-centered education.
Carrie, let's start with you.
Arizona education could be much improved, right?
We have some good school choice measures.
What's your plan for education here in Arizona versus your opponent?
Well, I think that we were always talking about funding the student, not the system.
And then last session, our lawmakers, some great conservative lawmakers, made it happen.
We are now funding the student not the system that to me is the fastest way to clean up the curriculum I mean think about it if you've got a few schools and you find out that they're teaching a garbage curriculum a woke curriculum at this school you just say you know we're taking our son out we're going to bring him to this school pretty soon when the enrollment starts to dip that school is going to have to make adjustments we also have a plan and this is a high school plan for dual track education I have students,
young people who come up to me and say, I'm so excited about this.
After the 10th grade, you decide if you're going to go the four-year college route and you're going to continue along those college prep classes, or after 10th grade, if you want to get trade skill training, vocational training, certification, the vast majority of jobs that are high-paying jobs out there do not require a college degree.
You don't have to get into debt to get those jobs.
But we want the kids to be able to learn that right in high school, not to have to go after high school to an additional trade skill training center or vocational school.
We want them to learn that in high school.
There's no reason that our 16, 17, and 18-year-olds can't be learning these skills that will get them into high-paying jobs immediately.
They do this down at a school district in Tucson.
I visited it.
They have a welding program, culinary arts, and many others.
These welding students get out and 100% of them, the day they graduate, have a job offer making between $70,000 and $100,000 with full benefits.
Blake.
My job is to get into the U.S. Senate and give Kerry air cover, right?
I want education to be decentralized.
It's a state issue, way, way, way more than a federal issue.
My opponent, of course, is the opposite.
He supports the entrenched federal bureaucracy in the Department of Education.
He wants to fund critical race theory, fund the 1619 history curriculum, fund this perverse gender ideology that these left-wing activists are pushing on our kids.
He wants to do all that at the federal level.
I just, I want to block that.
I want to return power from D.C. to Arizona, right, and give you air cover for all these great school choice initiatives.
Arizona has been a pioneer and a model in school choice.
Truly.
This bill that you're talking about that's now law was fantastic.
And I know you're going to be the best governor for parents and students.
And with the charter schools that we have and the options we have, you should not be bound by your zip code to a failing school.
This is an issue that Democrats want and Republicans.
When you talk to Democrats, Republicans, Independents out on the street, they want the best school choice for their son or daughter.
The only people who don't want it are the Democrat lawmakers because they're getting money from all kinds of special interests to make sure that we don't have all these choices.
Thankfully, we got the funding measure passed where we have ESA for all of our students.
And I'd like to actually expand that with even more money going to each student.
And I think when we start to change up how we treat curriculum and why we're educating, why are we educating our kids to prepare them to be self-sufficient out there in the real world?
And we need to change what our standards are.
Why do you need this many, you know, right now you need this many credit hours of math, science, whatever it may be.
We need to get some credit hours in there of real life skills that are going to help them in the real world.
Well said.
And get all this garbage out of our classroom, CRT, gender ideology.
Katie Hobbs is pushing for the worst of all that agenda.
She would take over Arizona schools and turn them into unrecognizable wasteland.
And Mark Kelly, he's going to cover for all that stuff in Washington, D.C. We're here with Carrie Lake and Blake Masters, CarrieLake.com, BlakeMasters.com.
Charlie, love Blake Masters.
Just saw two ads against him in the break.
Literally on this feed.
On this feed.
Mark Kelly has so much money.
He buys ads on conservative television.
Wow.
That's how much money he has.
I want to ask you, Carrie, how is it possible Katie Hobbs is allowed to be Secretary of State of an election she's running?
That's a great question.
And that's why over a year ago, we said she should recuse herself.
I mean, she's supposed to be helping to make sure we have fair elections, right?
And she's called half of Arizona.
She called the Republicans Nazis.
And how do you treat that group of people fairly if that's how you refer to them?
She's run incompetent elections.
I mean, we found out in Pinal County in just this last election, the primary election, that one hour into the voting day on election day, they ran out of Republican ballots, not Democrat ballots.
They ran out of Republican ballots.
And they say, oh, too many people showed up.
That's what they said.
They ran out of ballots in more than a quarter of the polling places.
And guess who gave them advisement on how many ballots they needed?
Katie Hobbs.
Katie Hobbs.
You cannot, you should recuse yourself if you are the administrator of an election you are running in.
Believe it or not, California has this law that if you are going to be running for office, you have to resign your office 90 days.
You can't be an incumbent for another statewide office.
Especially one that has control or has electro of the elections.
Yes.
And I'm not saying California is everything right, but it actually is a good idea because now she's going to be in charge of very particular ballot allocation and election practices.
And you have to beg the question, are you going to be doing the right thing for the people of Arizona or the right thing for the Katie Hobbs campaign?
Right.
Or the Mark Kelly campaign, Blake.
That's right.
Right.
Yeah.
Look, all Katie Hobbs had to do was advise Pinal County to have as many ballots as there are registered voters.
If you do that, you can never run out.
That's right.
And so she's just so incompetent.
She's just so incompetent.
She can't be trusted with anything.
She's an adjudicated, convicted racist.
She's low IQ.
She's not good.
Yeah.
She's such a crazy thing.
I don't think people even realize that we're paying one of the largest, second largest settlements in state history because of her racism.
She has been convicted twice of being a racist for racial discrimination against an employee, a staff member.
This woman had the courage to come forward and say, look, why am I not making the same amount as the white employees here?
And what is the answer?
It should have been, oh my gosh, let's give you the back pay.
Let's raise your salary.
You deserve this.
What does she do?
Katie Hobbs fires the woman.
And two courts, two juries found her guilty, unanimously found her guilty.
And we, the people, are paying for that, for Katie Hobbs' racism, $2.7 million judgment.
And I mean, how could she even be on the ballot?
How did Democrats even elect someone like that?
It's appalling.
Well, yeah.
And also, she has these incredibly woke ideas.
I mean, incredibly radical, like astronomically so.
So I want to just focus a little bit more on your race here, Blake, just for a second, as we're running out of time.
People are emailing us freedom at charliekirk.com.
A question we've received three or four times is, what is Blake's plan to take the fight to Mark Kelly?
You're being outspent.
You know, Carrie, you have a tough race, but state politics, it's very personal.
It's very tactile.
When it comes to Senate races, it seems as if sometimes it gets lost in kind of the chatter.
What is your plan, Blake, to bring the fight to Mark Kelly?
Two components to it, right?
You got to give people a reason to fire the other guy and then a reason to hire you.
And so in terms of the first, we'll just go after his voting record.
You know, yeah, he's on TV saying, oh, I was an astronaut and I'm an independent.
I'm a moderate.
And it's like, no, that barely worked in 2020, right?
And now he's got a track record.
So now if he says that, he's just lying.
So I have to tell people, actually, look at not what he says, but what he does.
And what he does is just carry water for the Biden administration.
He's voting for the open borders policies.
Mark Kelly votes for all the trillions in spending that has caused this massive inflation.
He's voting to block Border Patrol, but hire 87,000 new IRS agents, right?
So we have to expose his record.
All I have to do is tell the truth about him and then also tell people what I bring to the table, which is this incredible America first agenda, right?
New energy, new energy.
And an independent thinker, too.
You're not just going to be uniparty Blake, right?
Everybody knows I will not just vote in lockstep with whatever party leadership wants.
Yes.
Really one of the smartest guys I've met on the campaign trail is a deep thinker.
Very, very much so.
I'm most appalled by Mark Kelly's coziness with the CCP.
And I'm sure he voted every time for the Ukraine money.
Yeah, he did.
I think as an American, I don't care what your political back, if you're with the Democrat Party, the Independent Party, the Green Party, the Pizza Party, as I say, how they could vote for all of that money going to Ukraine when we have so many problems on our streets.
We've got a homeless situation that is out of control.
We're struggling to pay for our basic needs here.
We have a border that's wide open.
How on earth does he justify spending that kind of money?
You said how on earth?
But, you know, his head is up in space still.
He hooks his brain out.
He just does whatever Chuck Schumer tells him to do.
That's what's so disappointing.
At least Sinema's too left-wing, and I agree that I hope we get a conservative Republican in 2024, right?
But at least she knows how to tell Schumer to go pound sand.
Like occasionally, she's independent, which she promised to be.
Mark Kelly made all those same promises, but they're lies.
He's never independent.
He's actually just voting like Bernie Sanders.
And so I have to expose him.
And when we do, I'm pretty sure that's how we win.
And he's the typical senatorial candidate from the left.
You only see them six months out of the year.
Or every six years, you see him for six months.
Six Months of Listening 00:01:00
That's right.
And then you never see him again.
It's very rarely, everybody, where you get great candidates in critical states in years where they can win.
It's very rare.
Usually you get Chamber of Commerce, very normal candidates, like, okay, whatever.
You have kind of the stars aligning here in Arizona where you could have a phenomenal grassroots-based governor and a phenomenal young senator to bring the fight to D.C.
But the problem again is they're being outspent nearly 10 to 1.
That's not a death sentence.
It's not.
It just means we need your help to help them.
It's CarrieLake.com and BlakeMasters.com.
They love the Lord.
They're fighting very hard for liberty and for the Constitution.
Do what you can to help them and support them.
Carrie and Blake, thank you for joining us this hour.
Thanks, Charlie.
Always a pleasure.
Thank you.
You guys are welcome anytime.
We're going to do everything we can.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email me your thoughts as always.
Freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening.
God bless.
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