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July 29, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Trump’s Plan to Deconstruct the Deep State with Saurabh Sharma
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Personnel Is Policy 00:11:00
Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show.
How do we properly staff a government?
Sir Rob Sharma is here from American Moment to talk about one of the most important issues, that personnel is policy.
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I'm a massive fan of President Trump's.
I'm an admirer and dare I say a friend.
I think that's fair to say.
We have a really good relationship.
He's always been fabulous to me.
And there's no mystery here on this program.
When I give my word, I'm good for it.
For example, I gave my word I was not going to endorse in the Arizona governor's race.
I said that to a group of our friends here in Arizona, some of our donors, some of our activists.
I just said, we're going to stay neutral.
And I have with a lot of pressure trying to get me involved.
And so when I give my word, I give my word.
And I have said to President Trump, both publicly and privately, that if he runs in 2024, we are behind him.
And by the way, I'm an outspoken admirer of Governor DeSantis.
In fact, I just spoke with Governor DeSantis.
He was just at our event.
I think Ron DeSantis is a once-in-a-generational leader.
I really do.
He could be.
DeSantis is just amazing, and he could save the country.
I really believe that.
But one of the things that I think that President Trump struggled with was personnel.
There were too many serpents around him that lied to him, undercut him, and stabbed him in the back.
If we're serious about retaking America, we must fix personnel.
It is one of the most, if not the most important topic.
And to hear and here to walk us through this topic is he runs American Moment.
It's Sir Rob Sharma.
He's a great American, and he is trying to fix this problem.
But first, I want to diagnose it properly with him.
Sir, Rob, welcome back to the program.
It's my pleasure to be back here, Charlie.
So, Sir Rob, how bad is it?
Let's start with there, when it comes to the current status of the conservative movement when it comes to personnel.
We can win elections, but can we staff governments?
No, I don't think we can.
And it's not just a problem with presidencies.
It's a problem with congressional staff.
Frankly, it's a problem with a lot of the think tanks here in Washington, D.C. as well.
Basically, the conservative movement is very good at electing people who are great at running for office.
We elect great congressmen, we elect great presidents, we elect, we fund and create great think tanks that have very good missions and fancy names.
But we're very, very bad at paying attention to the work that needs to be done behind the scenes at the sub-principal level.
This can be everything from the young public policy researchers that decide what work product comes out of a think tank, the legislative aides and correspondents that are deciding how a member of Congress is going to vote, and the presidential appointees that end up determining so much of how successful a president is.
And that is a problem that we've had, I would say, for 40 years since basically the Reagan administration.
Ronald Reagan was successful because he hired young, he hired ideological, and he hired underqualified.
He didn't care about the incumbent credentials in American life.
We've lost that ability on the right of center.
And because of it, the amount of success we're able to have when we elect great people to office is very limited.
And it's a problem that we can never let happen again because the hour is very late in this country.
And the left has made it very clear that their goal is to make it so that it is essentially illegitimate for the right to ever have political power.
And so while we still live in a constitutional republic where we are allowed to win elections, we have a responsibility to use that power effectively.
And that requires strong personnel.
One of the questions I have, Sir Rob, is that why is it that the left is so much better at this than we are?
Why is it that they understand navigating and building the administrative state?
And we as conservatives have failed so terribly because, Sarab, it's not because of a lack of resources.
You know, there's been hundreds of millions, not billions of dollars that have been deployed into the conservative movement in Washington, D.C. Lots of white papers have been written.
But when Donald Trump won, where was the, let's say, battle plan to properly staff the government?
Why is it the left gets this so much better than we do?
I think there's a couple of reasons why.
One, you think about the resources that the left of center has available to it.
We think that we have a ton of them on the right, and it's true that we do.
A lot of patriots, you know, little old grandmas have been cutting 10, 15, $20 checks to conservative organizations that promise to save the country for something close to 60 to 70 years.
However, the left has even more resources available to it.
And what do I mean by that?
The right of center gets to recruit its people out of conservative think tanks, congressional offices, maybe a few conservative leaning businesses, and that's it.
Meanwhile, on the left of center, they get the universities.
They get all of the career bureaucracy.
They get all of the quote-unquote nonpartisan civic organizations, which as we know, are completely taken over by the far left.
And they basically get a revolving door with Fortune 500 companies.
The C-suites and presidential administrations are basically coterminous, especially when it comes to places like big tech.
The Obama administration was full of big tech flax.
The Biden administration is no different.
And so the right is operating with a much more limited set of resources in terms of places it can draw its people from.
And so it has to be really attentive to who it brings in.
And we haven't been very attentive about it.
Most of the people who come to DC to be part of the staffing world here could easily work for either party.
When I say that, I'm specifically talking about the people who work on the right of center.
They're kind of center left, maybe center right.
They don't believe anything particularly intensely, and they are not as committed to it as the left of center is.
You know, people come here to do it kind of for one or two years on their way to law school, usually on the right of center, or maybe they want to go back and be in business or something.
And that's important.
That's fine.
But because people on the right are not obsessed with government in the way that the left is, we tend not to give the attention we need to to this issue.
And it's why we've ultimately not had as robust a personnel pipeline.
Yeah, that's a great answer.
And that's so right.
I want you to build that out a little bit more.
And I hope everyone listening understands this, which is you want to elect good people.
We've endorsed Blake Masters, JD Vance, who I just think are fabulous.
But we have won elections.
And I believe one of the reasons we're losing the country is because we're not able to staff the government.
We just don't have the personnel to be able to do it.
And Washington, D.C. is a cesspool.
It is a culturally far left-wing city that even the Republicans are center-right.
So, Rob, can you build us out a little bit more?
The archetype of a traditional congressional staffer, 23, pretty arrogant, you know, wears the, they all wear the same clothes, you know, kind of the thinly trimmed beard.
You know what I mean?
It's like spreading right.
Yeah, absolutely.
And there's actually an Instagram account that puts together basically starter packs of what these people look like.
And you've gotten the profile exactly correct.
More importantly than some of those characteristics is actually what motivates them to come into politics.
I like to joke that D.C. is full of a lot of the second sons of East Coast businessmen who want to keep them as far away from the family business as humanly possible.
It's a lot of the kids of donors, the fail sons, the ones who you really didn't want to have anywhere near the money making for the family, their third, fourth generation wealth.
And unfortunately, a lot of the systems in D.C. have acclimatized themselves to that.
And that has real consequences.
So, for instance, most of the early internships you get in D.C. are unpaid or very poorly paid.
And so, what ends up happening is that only people that are wealthy and jobs.
Yes.
Yeah.
So basically, only people that otherwise would be in Kenny Bunkport can afford rent for three months in Washington, D.C. Is that right?
Exactly.
And the internships don't pay a living wage.
They're designed for those people.
And so those are the people who enter the pipeline, the people who come from these powerful backgrounds, the people who are not invested in the struggles of working class, middle-class people in the country, and certainly people who have been so removed from the Republican base for generations at this point that they'd have utter contempt if they went to a local tea party meeting or a local GOP meeting for the people they're supposed to be representing.
Staff is everything.
We're going to keep talking about this with Sir Rob Sharma.
I'm going to, what's your website, Sir Rob?
AmericanMoment.org.
AmericanMoment.org.
So there's so many different angles I want to go with this.
I want to just focus in on just kind of more of the technical aspect, which is our government is headquartered in Washington, D.C.
And if you want to become a congressional staffer, then you're likely going to be a son or daughter of a family that can afford you to not work that summer, can afford to pay for your rent that summer.
And I'm going to tell you kind of some of the ways I figured that out myself as I play into the stereotypes of the overly waspy population that seems to staff our government over the summer.
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All right, so I want to kind of play into this a little bit more.
So just can you walk through our audience?
Hiring Deeply Aligned Staff 00:04:14
A lot of our audience has maybe been to DC just on kind of a trip casually or not been at all.
That's why they're so happy.
Can you just kind of walk through the culture of Washington, D.C. summers and how that actually lays the groundwork for how policy itself is debated?
So from my understanding, there's a bunch of interns that flood the Capitol Hill.
Many of them have jobs.
They're looking for jobs there for about three to four months, if that.
And good luck trying to get a lease.
It's like $2,500 a month or $3,000 a month.
Plus, you got to pay for food in a very expensive city and travel and all of this.
So basically, after all of it, it's like $15,000 to do, which is, that's, that's basically boat fuel for a family, you know, on up in Mount Desert Island.
Why is it that this is such a talk about the impediment there and how the culture in Washington, D.C. exists?
Right.
So, every year you have intern season, right?
And the fall and spring are also relevant here, but it's mostly the summer.
That's when DC is full of people.
And so, you have all these Senate offices, these House offices, these think tanks on the right of center.
And you would assume, oh, okay, they're conservatives.
And so, they're going to be selecting for people based on their worldview.
They're going to be selecting people who want to serve and want to make an impact in support of the priorities that these politicians are running on.
That is not what happens at all.
Every single major institution in DC has the same blinders on, if not more intensely, that the rest of liberal culture around us has.
So, what do they prioritize?
They prioritize Ivy League education slash other kinds of fancy schools.
They prioritize people who are, you know, are very well spoken, but not very substantive, people who aren't going to rock the boat but talk pretty.
And of course, they, by the nature of the system, prioritize people who are wealthy.
And so, you bring in this class of people.
Most of them aren't going to stay, but the percentage that are are the ones who really couldn't cut it anywhere else.
And those then enter the pipeline for the broader staffing set on the right.
And so, those people they run up the chain, and very quickly, by the time you're in your late 20s, you can have very real serious power in Washington, D.C.
And unfortunately, most of these people, even if they came into DC believing anything at all, they're constantly surrounded by a culture that beats out any heterodox, interesting instincts they have.
It makes them into pawns of the establishment, makes them deeply cynical and nihilistic, and it makes them essentially useless when it comes to serving the interest of someone who does want to maybe rock the boat, someone like President Donald Trump or some of these fantastic members of Congress that have been elected.
And then, what the establishment will do on the back end is they'll say, Well, you have to hire our people.
You have to hire these cynical clowns because they're the only people left.
You know, I'm sorry, you people don't have anyone with experience.
And so, that's why you can't just pay attention to these senior roles, the ones that some people probably are aware of, you know, cabinet secretaries and so on.
You have to pay attention to the system at the very origin point of the pipeline, because if you don't get the beginning of this process right, you can't expect a good result at the end.
Yeah, and so is anyone actually going about fixing some of the entry costs for kind of the summers in DC problem, which ends up being the framework, if you will, or the bedrock or the impediment?
Is someone going about trying to fix that?
Yeah, actually, Congress a couple years ago, about two years ago, passed a sequestered intern fund, essentially, basically, a little pool of money that offices can only spend on interns.
Unfortunately, it wasn't enough.
So, you know, the typical intern salary is like $800 to $1,000 a month, which you could spend that much money on just the flight to DC and the flight back from DC and going back home once for 4th of July.
So, it doesn't solve the entire problem, but it does help.
It makes it so that someone maybe who spent their year in college saving up a little bit, or maybe their college helps fund part of their internship or something, it's a little bit more possible for them.
You know, we at American Moment have a program where when it comes to the people who we know want to do this, they are deeply aligned.
We pay them $3,000 a month, the best-paying internship program in DC.
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And it's not for anyone who doesn't need it.
It's for specifically people who are college dropouts, didn't go to college at all, and who want to be involved in this system, but there is just no path to them doing it.
And, you know, because we've been trying to lead by example, you know, these other organizations will call me sometimes.
They'll ask, you know, how do we design our intern program?
And I tell them, if you want our help, I better see a responsible wage floor set for these interns because I have very little interest in helping out organizations that are going to be part of the problem as opposed to helping solve it.
But it's extremely important, especially, you know, I hear on the news all the time from Republican elected officials that we're now a working class party.
And I think that it's really important that the people who are coming to be part of the advisory class to these members.
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So Rob, what is Schedule F?
Schedule F is the future.
Schedule F is how we destroy the deep state.
For your listeners, Charlie, this is going to get a little bit in the weeds, but it is so important.
Basically, what happens in Washington, when it happens when it comes to the deep state, the career bureaucrats that have so much control over how policy is made, is that even the ones that aren't really that influential, they have an incentive structure to pretend like they're doing a big policymaking role because it comes with more perks, it comes with more prestige, it comes with more money.
And so the problem is that policy should be made by political appointees.
It should be made by the people who are appointed by the person, the American people elected.
And so what Schedule F is, is this brilliant way to use the incentives of the system against itself.
This is a proposal, an executive order by President Trump that they attempted to implement in the final days of the administration that would say, okay, if you are a so-called policymaking career bureaucrat, that's fine.
You're more than welcome to be one.
However, it means we are going to reclassify you under Schedule F, which strips you of all of the protections you have from being easily fired.
Because if you're making policy, then you need to be responsive to the duly elected president of the United States who sets policy.
And this is the way that we are going to fire thousands of bureaucrats when President Trump gets reelected or whoever does.
It is the future of how we defeat the deep state.
Well, so let's just go through this, though.
Without Schedule F, how hard is it to fire a federal bureaucrat?
This is hard for people to understand and grasp.
It's extremely difficult for a bunch of reasons.
There's an entire set of laws mostly passed in the 20th century that exists to make federal bureaucrats removed from political oversight.
Now, once upon a time, these rules were put in under the guise of merit.
They said people would say, okay, we want bureaucrats that have basic competence, intelligence, and education to be able to implement policy.
However, what merit became is not the way that, say, our adversaries think about merit, China, places like Japan, other countries that have very, very competent, effective civil services.
What merit became is stuff like Pete Buttigieg and Rachel Levine.
It was deeply incompetent, confused, strange people who want to impose their unhappiness on the rest of us.
And so those protections built for a merit-based civil service are now used to enforce left-wing orthodoxy even when Republican presidents are elected.
So is Schedule F an executive order?
Does Congress have to act on this?
No, it is an executive order.
Congress does not have anything to do with this.
Now, Congress may try to prevent Schedule F from getting implemented.
So there are Democrat members of Congress that have been filing legislation of late to make it so that a future Republican administration could never implement Schedule F.
So there's certainly ways that they could gum up the works.
But as of right now, any president that came in that decided they want to do this could do it.
Now, would it get challenged in court?
Would the left find a thousand ways to gum up the works?
Absolutely.
And that's something we need to be better at is responding in that moment of, you know, Aikido, you have to do with the left.
But I think President Trump could decide to do this unilaterally.
Why didn't Trump do it in his first term?
Honestly, this idea percolated for a very long time, but there were people that were at the time running the presidential personnel office and the Office of Personnel that weren't interested.
They weren't interested.
The personnel didn't want to have personnel changes.
That's just poetic.
Well, because it was neocons that were running the early days of the administration, and the neocons have no problem with the career bureaucrats.
They're all cut from the same cloth.
They want endless war.
They want all of our jobs to be shipped overseas and they want to open border.
Okay.
You know, sometimes they disagree slightly on the tax rate, but functionally for their purposes, it didn't matter if it was left-wing career bureaucrats or themselves.
Yeah.
And so that they were blocking it.
Was Trump?
Trump was sympathetic to this idea, though, correct?
Yeah, he ran on draining the swamp.
He has been wanting to fire these bureaucrats that have been undermining him since he first ran for office.
Unfortunately, he was stymied a lot.
And, you know, the president see the United States as the strangest job in the world.
There is nothing else like it.
You have 10,000 things drawing at your attention every single day.
And so you have to almost outsource who sets the table for what you're paying attention to on any given day to your staff.
Unfortunately, President Trump didn't have good staff.
And so everything that he was shown that he was given attention to was the wrong stuff.
And when he would say that he wanted something done, the staff would say, yes, yes, Mr. President, we'll do it.
And then they'd kill it quietly.
And he was so busy that he wouldn't necessarily have the opportunity to ask again.
Yeah, so, but this is something important.
Why do you think, though, that Trump going into office was a little taken by surprise by this?
Was it just the initial transition team?
Was it just flawed from the beginning?
Why do you think that is?
I think you had two competing forces seeking to undermine him, right?
So, you had the first problem, which is that the entire political system absolutely despised Donald Trump, everything he stood for, and it was a shock to the system.
And so, they immediately went into overdrive trying to prevent Donald Trump from actually taking over the federal government and implementing his worldview.
The second, more specific problem that you had is that you had a right that was either uninterested or incapable of implementing his vision.
So, the ones that were uninterested were the establishment GOP, the people who would have easily done the transition for Jeb Bush or any of the other establishment people running for office.
Those were a lot of the same people running the transition because those were the people who knew how to run transitions.
And so, that gets to the final problem, which is that the people who were OG America first OG MAGA, they weren't as experienced in navigating Washington.
And unfortunately, because those early picks for who decided who got hired were so bad, being a day one Trump supporter was actually a liability to get hired in the Trump administration because to them, it was a signal that this would be a person who would actually fight for the president's agenda and his voters.
And they couldn't have that, they didn't want that.
What is the blue book?
The blue book is the list of every single job in the federal government.
It is, it is essentially, and then the other elements to it are what gets done in the first hundred days of the presidency.
And so, there are packets and packets of information that every president needs to start on day one with the people who he's going to hire and what he's going to do.
And so, what a lot of conservative organizations need to work on over the course of the next two years is making sure that we get that right next time.
I mean, so it's 4,000 positions, is that right?
Yes.
And so, is so you're working on it, but who else is working on this for the next Republican administration, Republican administration?
There's a lot of fantastic organizations.
I mean, I'm talking to you here from the Conservative Partnership Institute, a great organization led by Senator Jim DeMint and Mark Meadows.
They're patriots, they've been such good friends to us.
America First Legal, Stephen Miller's group, Center for Ruining America, that's Russ Vogt's group.
There's just a fantastic set of organizations.
We're all working together with the new great leadership at the Heritage Foundation on some of this.
I think that there's a lot of people who are working together who are going to make sure that this doesn't happen again.
And we're very lucky that we get to be a part of those conversations.
I think we bring a lot of the ideological energy that this energy for an America first worldview for a lot of these personnel.
That's what people have leaned on us quite a bit for.
And I would be shocked if we make this mistake again.
And I think that the next Republican president and the next conservative administration is going to be much more in the conservative movement.
So, for example, let's say Blake Masters and JD Vance win.
Is there an effort to try to get them properly staffed as well?
Well, they're two very good friends of mine, and we've had those conversations already.
So, I get the sense that they're going to have people trampling over each other to work for them.
I mean, I think a lot of young people, especially, realize that JD Vance and Blake Masters are the future of the Republican Party and they understand and are capable of articulating what needs to happen if we're going to have a country at all in our lifetime.
So, I think they'd be just fine, but we'll be helping them as much as we can once they get elected.
So, yeah, I know you got to go in a second, but I do want to ask about this question about the administrative state in general.
Conservatives seem to be very apprehensive about using political power.
So, we win, we purge the ranks of the awful people, we put new people in.
What should we actually use government for?
I think there's a lot of things.
The way that I like to think about it is that there are three ends that I think the conservative movement worth the name would direct its energy towards: strong families.
We have a crisis of family formation and fertility in this country.
And if you don't have families, if you don't have children, you don't have a country.
Sovereignty, we need a sovereign nation.
That means responsible policies on trade, on foreign policy, and on immigration to make sure that we don't just invade the world and invite the world all the time, that we actually protect the integrity of what it means to be an American and to have a country.
And then the last is broad-based economic prosperity, not this kind of corporate donor-focused vision of conservative economics that dominated for so long, where it was just whatever the Fortune 500 companies and the billionaires want, but also not the leftist approach of just endless welfare and no substantive vision of a productive, healthy working economy.
We need to create broad-based prosperity, and we do that by fixing or trading relationships.
We do that by incentivizing innovation.
We do that by actually making things in the country again.
It's well said.
Sir, Rob, thank you so much.
AmericanMoment.org.
Very important.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Charlie.
Thanks.
Everybody, email us your thoughts.
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Again, this personnel issue is so incredibly important.
It's something that we're focusing on at turning point.
We got a lot in our hands, but imagine all the turning point students that we then can use to staff the government.
We should be unafraid to say that.
I want to get to a piece of sound here.
What is the significance of this?
What happens when you do not staff your government correctly?
Well, the left, they know how to staff their government.
They staff it up and down at every single level.
They have people at the worker level and at the executive level with complete and total loyalty.
You get spineless bureaucrats.
It's an extremely important topic.
Okay, I want to play this piece of tape here.
Okay, let's play cut 80.
What we do know is that Americans hate this economy, right?
The CNN poll out recently found that 64% of Americans believe the U.S. economy is currently in a recession.
Now, that may not be the case, but that's what people feel.
CNN says 64% of Americans feel that they're in a recession.
And yet, the people that are actually working in the intricacies of your government are saying that, oh, no, recession is actually not two quarters of negative economic growth, one after the other.
And if you have so many people that then staff your government that are left-wing ideologues, then how are you actually ever going to fix anything?
I could tell you, I was there.
I was actually a member of the Trump transition team.
And I saw firsthand the worst of the lobbyists, the insiders, they all penetrated and infiltrated every single level of government.
And so, for any Republican that runs for office, any Republican that runs for office in 2024, the same way that Donald Trump put forward Supreme Court picks, he should put together his cabinet.
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He should run on an entire list of who he would staff the government with.
Personnel is policy, as Morton Blackwell would say.
Who you have actually in positions of power ends up being tomorrow's policy.
Trump did it with Supreme Court justices.
He should be able to do it as well with staffing the entire government.
We were just in New York City.
I could tell you it is a completely unrecognizable city.
I used to love New York.
We had a fine time.
We were safe, thankfully.
We had great security.
But it's just the whole city is just falling apart.
You talk to cops, their morale is super low.
Homelessness is everywhere.
It is a dirty city.
And Andrew is even a fan.
Producer Andrew is a fan of New York City.
And he just remarked when we were driving to one place, said, Man, this place is just dirtier, hotter, and trashier than any city I remember.
I said, Well, San Francisco would be close to it.
But New York used to be just a gem of a city.
It worked.
That's why people liked New York, literally and metaphorically.
It worked as a city.
You came there to work, to succeed, to aspire, to dream that you would only be capped by the limits of the skyscrapers of how high you could possibly go.
I mean, New York was a special place, and it is corrupt politicians.
It didn't take a lot of them to destroy it.
And I'll be honest, Bloomberg was an amazing mayor compared to Bill de Blasi.
I had plenty of problems with Mike Bloomberg, trust me.
But he was pro-police, and he fought the government unions, and he did not put up with trash and homelessness and vagrancy and dirtiness on the street.
New York is a dirty city now.
And in a recent study, it actually shows that New York is the unhappiest city in America, 318 out of 318.
I believe, and this is a contrarian argument, I do not believe, I believe, and I do not believe it's, I guess, let me say, I believe, I could do the negative or the positive.
I do not believe people were meant to live in urban cities.
I don't.
I don't think it's natural.
I don't think it makes you happy.
I don't think it makes you joyful, especially the way the cities are being run right now.
I think it could work if you have a great mayor, but the way Chicago, New York, San Francisco, Seattle, it is the death of the American city.
And so Eric Adams has been a continued chapter in that destruction.
And I want to kind of get into this segment just a little bit here.
We'll talk about it in the coming days of how Blue City mayors are now pulling the alarm of the cost of illegal immigration.
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And we can't have the historical, I believe people should be housed, but just don't house them on my block.
Everyone block, everyone's block is going to be impacted by this.
And so we have to add our advocacy with our ability to help our neighbors.
And we need everyone on board with this, you know, because as I stated last week, our schools are going to be impacted.
Our health care system is going to be impacted.
Our infrastructure is going to be impacted.
Oh, you mean there's a cost to mass illegal immigration?
Yeah.
The 7,000 people that are coming across our border every single day, 7,000?
Yeah, there is a cost to that.
Of course there is.
Now Muriel Bowser, the mayor of Washington, D.C., is saying the exact same thing.
She's requesting the National Guard to be activated.
Funny she didn't do that on January 6th to go remove illegals.
So there's a flood of illegals going to Washington, D.C.
And now Muriel Bowser wants them, wants the National Guard to remove them.
So wait a second.
Let me answer this question.
Why can't Greg Abbott now go use the National Guard to secure the southern border that we've been calling for on this program for the last year and a half?
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And I've also asked the Secretary of the Army to deploy the D.C. National Guard to help lead that effort.
So I've asked for the deployment of the Guard as long as we need the Guard to deal with a humanitarian crisis that we expect to escalate.
The number of people crossing the border seeking asylum, we expect to only go up.
Now, Greg Abbott is sending busloads of illegals to D.C.
I don't think it's enough.
I think it's kind of weak, but I will give Greg Abbott credit for this.
He did force the hand of this mayor to mobilize the National Guard, and it's now creating this national media crisis.
So I will give him credit for that.
But if Muriel Bowser can nationalize the National Guard or use the National Guard to clean up illegals, why can't Greg Abbott and Doug Ducey do that in Arizona and Texas?
Muriel Bowser is now showing more resolve in regards to deploying the Guard than most Republicans.
Why?
Because Washington, D.C. is the sandbox for the world's elite.
And now, all of a sudden, that there's a Nicaraguan near the basilica, or there's a Honduran in Georgetown, or there's a Mexican citizen that might be coming up asking you for money.
Muriel Bowser, get these people out of there.
You see, diversity is not actually our strength, according to the left.
Diversity is a soundbite, but they want their cities to remain all white.
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And if you dare have a third world person come, like, no, no, no, you're only there to vote for me.
I don't actually want to see you.
Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
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God bless.
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