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April 3, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show

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What Should Men Do About the Trans Agenda? LIVE from Fervent Church

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Thinking and Doing Virtue 00:14:52
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	Unscripted, my conversation at Fervent Church, an amazing church for a TPUSA faith stop.
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	What should men do to stand up against the transgender issue?
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	Buckle up, everybody.
	Here we go.
	Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
	Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
	I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
	Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
	I want to thank Charlie.
	He's an incredible guy.
	His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
	We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
	That's why we are here.
	Honor to be here.
	And, you know, this state, I'll tell you what, you deserve better leaders.
	My goodness.
	I love Colorado.
	I've been coming here my whole life.
	And what a beautiful place with wonderful people.
	And my goodness, we have to get people back into leadership in this state at every level that love the Lord and want to fight for liberty and freedom.
	So, look, TPUSA Faith, it's a project of Turning Point USA.
	We're focused on trying to build coalitions for liberty to support pastors and churches to continue to inform their congregations and contest for freedom and liberty where it matters most.
	We believe the church is essential.
	We're going to make sure that the church never gets locked down again while cannabis dispensaries and strip clubs and abortion clinics remain open.
	And your church passed the test very well.
	Most churches did not.
	Most churches locked down.
	We never shut down.
	And praise God for that.
	We never masked.
	Yeah, sorry.
	And look, we believe, we hate tyranny at Turning Point USA.
	You should too.
	God hates tyranny.
	He wants you to live in freedom and in liberty.
	That is what Jesus is all about, to set the captives free, to no longer be a slave to sin, to be in a position of being terrorized by your bad decisions or by your natural defaults in the original sin.
	And the same goes here in the earthly realm, that we should not want anyone to live under tyranny, that a constitutional government for and by the people, a separation of powers, independent judiciary, consent to the governed, these are so important for a free people to contest for.
	In fact, I believe we are biblically commanded to fight for such things.
	I believe that we should be contesting for liberty and freedom at every level.
	So at TPUSA Faith, we are here to support the pastors that want to take those bold stands.
	We want to help support the churches that want to inform and educate their congregation.
	Not even about politics, by the way.
	It's not even about that.
	It's about citizenship.
	It's about what is this country and why is it so important?
	It's about where do your rights come from?
	That's much more important than politics, by the way.
	You can put politics aside for a second.
	We want to create biblical, active, and informed citizens.
	And in fact, I think we can all agree that you put the politics aside is that we have a spiritual, we have an educational, and we have a moral crisis going on right now in America that even transcends a lot of the traditional political issues.
	So I know you work with some really great guys like Jack Hibbs and Rob McCoy and so on and so forth.
	But what I think the citizen, you know, the citizens as well as the pastors don't realize is, you know, you hear the quote, you know, give to Caesar what is Caesar.
	What they don't realize is, is we're Caesar in this country.
	It's we the people, right?
	We're little kings.
	We're sovereigns, okay?
	It's not some unelected officials in wherever, but it is us as we the people standing up for rights.
	Can you speak into that a little bit?
	Yeah, that's such an important point.
	So one of the scriptures that is used a lot by churches, I think incorrectly, is Romans 13.
	You probably all have heard it.
	You probably heard it cited a lot as a reason that you must submit to the government.
	So it says in Romans 13, I'm paraphrasing, but basically that you need to submit to those in authority and basically that they're there for your good.
	I'm essentially paraphrasing.
	Now, so you think about it, who's actually in authority here in America?
	We are.
	The people are in authority.
	So if you read Romans 13 through a constitutional lens, the lens that our framers and our founders gave us, it's the governor of Colorado that needs to submit to us.
	It's not that we submit to him.
	It's completely different.
	And I think the problem is, is we had a lot of pastors that were sitting at the table that Jesus would overturn.
	Like being on committees with Paulus and everything else.
	Like, I mean, this guy's a deviant.
	I mean, he forced CRT in schools.
	He forced gender fluidity and gender identity into schools.
	And here we have pastors sitting at the table with this guy that Jesus would overturn.
	What do you think of that?
	I mean, look, you guys know the set of circumstances here in Colorado better than I do.
	I'm not a big fan, obviously.
	But look, I'll say this: that to what end?
	Right?
	Are you sitting at the table to try to contest for the unborn and try to push back against this gender nonsense?
	Or are you sitting at the table trying to seek this fake agreement to try to get people to like you when in reality you're not contesting for truth?
	I'll sit down at the table with anybody.
	I mean that.
	But I'm not going to waiver for what I believe in.
	And I'm not going to sign on to something as if I'm agreeing, right?
	So I don't know.
	Maybe those pastors, you obviously, I trust your judgment.
	If they're sitting there and agreeing to something and signing their name to something that is unbiblical, then I have no patience for that whatsoever.
	And that happens a lot, right?
	Where, you know, a lot of churches will say, listen, you know, in the spirit of trying to build bridges, right?
	I'm going to be on this committee.
	And like, okay, well, what does that committee stand for?
	Like, what are you trying to push forward for?
	But look, I'll talk to anyone at any time, and we should be open to that.
	But at the same time, then there'll be a test of you.
	You must have the courage that when all of a sudden it says, hey, you know, should we have non-binary bathrooms that you as the pastor or as the Christian on that committee are willing to sacrifice all of the goodwill that you might have brought up?
	Like, you don't actually know.
	I think men are men and women are women, and I don't think we should have non-binary bathrooms in the state of Colorado.
	Created in the likeness and images of God, man and woman, period, the end.
	And I know that you've said a few times that the church has advocated their responsibility in the public square.
	And one time I heard you say a quote, which I completely agree with.
	How do some of these guys even call themselves pastors?
	And I know a lot of these guys are well-meaning and they have different convictions than I have, but I don't think that's shepherding the flock very well.
	No, and this goes to a deeper point, right?
	Which is, first and foremost, does the Bible ever command us to care about our government?
	And many pastors, they conveniently skip over Daniel, Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, just to name a few.
	Jesus and John the Baptist.
	There you go.
	And so, not to mention Jeremiah 29, 7, a direct commandment from the Lord that says, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in, because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
	That is a commandment for us to care about the type of government we have, to care about our nation, to care about what's happening around us.
	But look, it comes down to this.
	Is it easy to do what you're doing?
	No.
	What we're doing tonight is hard.
	What we're doing tonight, most pastors don't want to deal with it.
	They don't want to deal with it.
	They've got a lot of hate mail.
	I've already gotten a lot of hate mail about you, but hey, you know, praise the Lord.
	You're welcome.
	But yeah, look, I mean, they don't want to deal with it largely because they're going to get bad emails.
	They're going to have questions they're not comfortable answering.
	And so what business are you in exactly?
	Are you in the business of being a pastor or kind of like a wannabe Instagram celebrity that wants nothing but just kind of people to love them?
	If that's the case, then get out of the pastor business, right?
	If that's the case.
	Because, and, you know, what's so funny, though, is that every church that has decided to take a stand and to inform their congregation has grown.
	They've multiplied.
	They're seeing their tithes and their offerings and their attendance go up.
	But it is hard.
	It is hard because you're going to come under the scorn of the local media.
	It's hard because then people say, I don't want this church to become political.
	Now, well, how do we respond to that?
	I mean, personally, I respond, I am not political.
	This is a spiritual battle.
	I'm not political.
	I stand up for righteousness.
	I shine the light in the darkness and I speak truth.
	Jesus spoke truth, brood of vipers, sons of hell, children of the devil.
	So, I mean, for me, I believe that it's a call from God that we call evil evil.
	You know, call those that call good evil and evil good out on the carpet.
	Yeah, well said.
	And it's not even about being political is the way we should respond, right?
	Tonight, we're not going to talk about political parties.
	We're not going to do any of that.
	Instead, what I will say, though, is I will tell you clearly and definitively what a woman is.
	You're not a biologist.
	I'm not a biologist.
	I'm not a biologist.
	Listen, I'm not a veterinarian.
	When I see a dog, I know it.
	When I go outside, I know it's raining, and I'm not a meteorologist.
	When I see a woman, I know it's a woman, even though I'm not a biologist.
	Whoa, man, right?
	Amen.
	Now, what's the importance of such a statement?
	When the church goes quiet, moral truths go into confusion.
	Pastors say, I don't do that stuff.
	Oh, you don't do what as a man and what as a woman?
	Really?
	What exactly do you do?
	Do you do what as a baby, right?
	No, they don't, right?
	And so it gets down to what is moral and absolute truth.
	That's what we're fighting for, right?
	We as Christians, we believe that there are some unchangeable laws of nature.
	We also believe there was a God that put those laws of nature into existence.
	The founders believed it as well, the laws of nature and nature's God.
	But when you have someone who is a nominee for the Supreme Court, almost in a smug way, say, can I give a definition of a woman?
	By the way, being a woman and being only appointed to be on the Supreme Court because she's a black woman, say, you know, I'm not a biologist, that should be kind of a cultural timeout for us.
	Like, whoa, why is it that people that used to communicate very basic things have gone silent?
	And that should be a warning.
	Every pastor in the country should have showed that clip to their congregation and said, listen, we don't have to overcomplicate this.
	We can go into chromosomal structure who can have children and can have children.
	But at this church and in any Bible-believing church, we believe God created man and God created women.
	That's a starting point instead.
	Pastors, a lot of them are silent on that issue.
	So it's not even a matter of that.
	It's a matter of, are you going to talk about truth?
	I'm wondering if they don't want to lose their relational clout or their political clout, because that's what I'm seeing in a lot of these churches.
	They don't want to lose their political clout, so they're willing to turn a blind eye to bad voting records.
	Well, look, I want to say there are more and more pastors starting to rise up.
	So there are three different types of churches.
	We can go through three really quick.
	First and foremost, there's the courageous church.
	You're sitting in one right now.
	Praise God.
	You're sitting in a courageous church.
	Thank you.
	You are.
	And there's more of them than I think we give credit for.
	There's Brave Church up in Denver that we spoke at, phenomenal church.
	There's more and more.
	And there are pastors that are like, okay, you know, five years ago, maybe not, but now that people are asking me what a woman is, maybe I should speak up.
	Good.
	Good.
	We should encourage them.
	We want more in the courageous category.
	Lead, follower, get out of the way.
	When we see people that want to start leading, we need to encourage them.
	Even people that might have been on the fence two years ago.
	Not that, oh, you were woke two years ago, but maybe they were then, but what are they now?
	Okay.
	We believe in conversion stories, kind of a backbone of our entire belief system, right?
	Have an openness to people that genuinely want to learn and improve.
	Okay?
	And that could be hard.
	And we can give a lot of grace for that.
	We should.
	And it's hard for me because I'm like, wait a second.
	You were marching in the BLM parade, but I'm like, you know what?
	I really feel a sense of genuine openness now where you want to improve and you want to learn.
	So that's the first type.
	The second type of church is the cowardly church.
	Okay.
	Now, we want to try to get more of them into the courageous category.
	But they're the churches that really are afraid of losing relational clout.
	And they're afraid of engaging on these issues, but deep down they know they should.
	So it goes down to two reasons why they don't.
	They don't know how to or they're afraid to.
	So they don't know how to we can fix at TPUSA faith.
	We can give you the reasons why this country was founded on Christian biblical principles, founded by Christians, that 55 out of 56 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing, regular church attending Christians.
	We could tell you how the Protestant Reformation led to the teachings of really the basis of Western civilization that then led to Whitfield and Edwards and Jonathan Mayhew being the black robe regimen that spurred on the fight for liberty in America.
	We can give you all of that, the best training available.
	So that's fixable.
	What's not so easily fixable is the crisis that's happening in America.
	And I want to just encourage all of you, the moms showing up to school boards, the parents that are starting to homeschool, those of you that are standing up when there's something at risk, which is the crisis of courage.
The Crisis of Courage 00:02:34
	And courage is the first virtue, according to Aristotle, because it touches all the other virtues.
	Like, how can you live in liberty if someone's not standing with courage to protect your liberty?
	Courage is the virtue that requires action.
	It's a thinking and a doing virtue.
	It's a very vivid virtue.
	Yet as George S. Patton, big Patton fan, by the way, famously said, moral courage is the most necessary yet absent characteristic in man.
	Boy, isn't that true.
	And we see it all across the country.
	So there's a pastor that will be like, I know what I want, I know what I should do, but I'm afraid to do it.
	Now, that's where I kind of get a little bit blunt.
	If you're living by a spirit of fear, then resign as a pastor because God has not given us a spirit of fear.
	Instead, that of courage and a sound mind.
	And finally, though, the third type of church is the one where I kind of take the gloves off a little bit.
	Cowardly churches, okay, these are the complicit churches.
	The totally different category, okay?
	These are the churches that aren't courageous.
	They're not neutral, but they're the ones actively teaching their congregation bad theology, backwards cultural truths.
	I'm talking about the churches that have the LGBT flag outside of their church.
	I'm talking about the churches that say, well, Jesus was a socialist.
	I'm talking about the churches that are advocating for open borders.
	You know what I'm talking about here.
	And for those churches, it's an open invite.
	Those pastors can talk to me at any time.
	We can have a dialogue.
	They don't ever take me up on that offer, exactly what Bible they're referencing or what they're looking at.
	But those are the churches that unfortunately I see are growing in certain parts of the world.
	I don't know if that's the case here or not.
	I would guess more are cowardly in this community than courageous or complicit.
	I could be wrong.
	Would we even call them churches?
	Because I think the Holy Spirit's left the building, right?
	Yeah, I mean, look, that would be for the elders to judge and people that go there, not my job, right?
	I'm sure there's still some good work going on in a lot of those churches.
	But when I start to see mega churches that start to say, look, there's really nothing wrong with a 13-year-old changing their sex.
	Like, I say, you know what?
	No way.
	Like, I'm not going to act like that's okay.
	In fact, I'm not going to act as if that's tolerance.
	In fact, it's child abuse and we shouldn't put up with it, is what it is.
	So, a couple of things I want to touch on was, you know, you've been vocal of saying the church failed miserably during COVID-19, especially with the shutdowns and everything else.
Cowardice in the Pews 00:07:56
	I mean, we'll send people to the Congo, we'll send people to the Sudan, but then we get terrified over a cold.
	I mean, this is kind of an interesting with a 99.8% survival rate.
	You know, I mean, so how do we encourage churches to be to the, you know, get out there and say, you know what, this was a mistake.
	This was, you know, maybe I shouldn't have done what I did.
	I mean, how do we address that?
	Yeah, look, I mean, COVID is very real for a specific part of the population, and we know that.
	And the only one of the great injustices ever in my life that I saw was the fact that it's psychological warfare, isn't it?
	Yeah, for sure.
	Totally.
	Yeah, one of the great injustices that I ever lived through was the fact that treatments, early treatments, and the conversation thereof was completely and totally suppressed of ivermectin, a hydroxychloroquine, an azithromycin, vitamin D, aspirin, all the things that very well could have empowered people.
	The fact we weren't even allowed to talk about it, have like an open conversation about it was really, it was a tactic to the enemy.
	It was rooted in deceit.
	And then the remdesivir on top of it, giving it to the patients in the world.
	Yeah, which I know, I mean, I know personally a lot of people that were totally harmed by remdesivir and then the suppression of monoclonal antibodies and the distribution thereof.
	You just look at one of those, vitamin D levels, peer-reviewed studies, dozens of them.
	You can look at them.
	Vitamin D level over 50, you have a much higher chance of surviving COVID, much higher chance than a vitamin D level under 50.
	I didn't see one CDC ad.
	I didn't see one NIH ad about how people should be taking regular vitamin D supplements, getting themselves tested regularly to get their vitamin D level over 50.
	We could have had a nationwide campaign that I would have helped the CDC continue to spread about, hey, if you don't know your vitamin D level, it's like not knowing your credit score.
	It would have been a very easy campaign.
	No, seriously, it would have been a bridge time.
	It would have been a unity.
	And people would say, hey, my vitamin D level 70.
	It's a direct correlation.
	You're over 50.
	You're in a much better place.
	And that's without all the other treatments, right?
	That's without, you know, intravenous intervention, ozone, you know, vitamin C supplements, all these sorts of things that we just know are good for waste.
	Just vitamin D alone.
	And there's a lot of reason for this.
	When the cytokosine storm begins to form, vitamin D is the interrupter.
	If you have high vitamin D level, higher chance to be able to survive that.
	Never heard anything about that, which as soon as that, as soon as the study started to come out on that, I was like, whoa, there's a lot of people that lived in an unnecessary position in a state of fear around just that singular thing.
	You get vitamin D right now from Walgreens or CBS.
	There's no gatekeeper to be able to get to vitamin D.
	And I encourage all of you to look at those studies.
	It's pretty amazing, kind of the significance of that.
	So, look, the church failed miserably, not just on that particular issue, but it failed kind of more generally on basically agreeing with the consensus from the state that they're not essential.
	Now, kind of coming from the political world and from the government world, I didn't understand this, right?
	So, I was really let down and I was wrong.
	I made a prediction.
	I said, okay, churches and Christians are not going to put up with this.
	There's no way they're going to allow themselves to be closed for Easter and Pentecost Sunday.
	They're not going to be closed for the summer that follows.
	Definitely not for Christmas.
	There's no way that churches are going to put up with this.
	But unfortunately, and praise God, some people were really benefited by it, but generally, I'd make an argument that the kind of, I'm going to phone it in and Zoom church actually was kind of like a multi-month vacation for a lot of pastors who continue to get tithes and offerings without ever actually having to do the work of being a pastor.
	Now, praise God, some people were able to watch church from home.
	I think that's a great thing for some people.
	But watching church from home is like a fireplace on a television, right?
	You can see it, but there's no warmth.
	It says very clearly in the Bible that we should not forsake the gathering of believers.
	And because being around people is something where the spirit moves, and also you can find healing and compassion.
	You know, you're not alone.
	You can get individual counseling if so needed.
	The church is essential.
	So, when the church was afraid to say that, and then the other thing that was so bizarre is the lack of nuance from these mega church pastors where they were like, We have people in our community that are going to die if they come to church.
	Like, okay, let me accept that premise.
	I think it's a little dramatic, but let me accept the premise.
	Then, why don't you just open up the church for the young people that are committing suicide at record rates and their schools are closed and they're taking drugs and getting drunk and they're overweight, then just open up the church for all the 20-somethings in your community.
	And I never got a good answer as to why they didn't do that.
	And I think Romans 13, they would say, Yeah, and we kind of went through Romans 13 and the poor constitutional biblical interpretation of that.
	We believe in the inerrancy of scripture, we believe in the supremacy of scripture, and we believe Romans 13 tells us in a constitutional context that we, the people, are in charge and our leaders are subservient to us.
	But that was never, I think, communicated on a broader scale to most pastors.
	But it did come down to something that you pinpointed, which is a spirit of fear, right?
	It's a spirit of fear because a lot of pastors got into this focusing on the three B's of American Christianity: bigger buildings, more baptisms, and bigger budgets.
	I like those things, especially baptisms.
	I love when people give their life to a church.
	What's wrong with a bigger budget?
	No, there's nothing wrong with it, right?
	But I think we would all agree that most churches have prioritized the American Christian business model over taking stands for truth and pushing back against tyranny wherever it rears its head.
	Is that if they were forced to choose, most churches would say, I'm going to prioritize the business model of trying to be like the skinny gene kind of pastor, TED Talk with a rock concert.
	They're not that skinny, don't worry.
	I only use that with certain pastors.
	You're right on the edge, by the way.
	It's very close.
	It's very close.
	It's okay.
	You're not wearing new tennis shoes, so you're in the clear.
	So, and it's kind of this backwards incentive model, right?
	And I really wish the best for a lot of these pastors.
	I want to encourage them to be better.
	But a lot of pastors never, and let's be honest, they never really had to make those tough formational decisions that were necessary when they came in COVID.
	And all of a sudden, the weight of the world was on them.
	And they did what was easy, not what was right.
	And that's a learning moment, isn't it?
	And 95% of churches across the country were happy to parrot the talking points with no questioning of Anthony Fauci.
	happy to parrot the talking points of their local government officials, happy to unfortunately openly participate in the mental health crisis and the spiritual crisis that was looming across the country.
	We lost more young people across America by far to suicide than to the Chinese Fauci coronavirus.
	And one of the reasons why I believe is that when you shut down the church and you turn the church into a YouTube channel and you act as if there's nothing into community, there's nothing into the individual connection, then you have just made the enemy's argument for him.
	And unfortunately, their church did so willingly.
	And I know you know this, but Romans 13 was used heavily in Nazi Germany.
	And, you know, I know you're aware of this, but Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Neumoller, they actually opposed Hitler and they were almost blown up and one of them was hung.
	And literally, Nehemohler said, the worst thing that happened to me, worse than them beating me up and rummaging through my house and putting a bomb in my house and blowing my house halfway up, the worst thing was the pastors, 2,000 pastors, straight, you know, just cutting them off.
Romans 13 and Tyranny 00:05:36
	And the mantra back then, during Nazi Germany, was safety first and appeasement.
	And they really thought that they could negotiate with a tyrant.
	And they lost hardcore.
	They lost hardcore.
	So, I mean, what do you think about that as far as how do we better educate our brothers in the Lord so that we don't end up, because it happened quickly in Nazi Germany.
	All of a sudden, there's only two men standing against Hitler.
	Only two.
	And I pray for faith and the courage to be one of those guys that are the last two standing against tyranny.
	Yeah, look, and it's not just that example, right?
	I mean, it's Russia with the Soviet Union that was totally taken over by tyrannical forces.
	Look, we really water down our history, especially for our young people, something we're trying to fix at Turning Point USA, where I visit college campuses so you don't have to.
	See you Boulder on April 12th, by the way.
	You guys should all come.
	We're going to have a great time at Colorado University Boulder on April 12th.
	It's going to be really great.
	Yeah, it's going to be great.
	So a lot of fun.
	You're all welcome.
	Make sure you could defend yourself.
	There'll be something.
	Antifa is going to have something to say about that.
	Your concealed carry doesn't work in Boulder.
	Did you know that?
	Yeah, well, I can bring my dog.
	So love to have Antifa meet my Dutch Shepherd.
	They don't like dogs.
	They don't.
	I love dogs, actually.
	So a different conversation for a different time.
	Yeah, dogs you can bring anywhere.
	It's great.
	So yeah, look, tyranny, it's an important topic, right?
	I mean, so let's go to the story of Exodus.
	What's the story of Exodus?
	It's God's chosen people living under a tyrant.
	He wants to set those people free.
	It's a common theme that for many reasons, you have a small group of people wanting to control a large group of people.
	That's the story of history.
	And when you're able to break free of that, you should take pause and be like, why is it that now the many actually control the few?
	It's really rare.
	Usually the few control the many.
	So whenever the many control the few, that's special.
	Stop, write it down, study that.
	That's less than 1%.
	Most of human history is a small group of people dominating a lot of people.
	So the founders are like, wait a second.
	So we want this to happen in America, but if it's a straight democracy, then that's a problem because people are going to vote for themselves stuff all the time.
	So they had democratic type traditions and institutions within a constitutional republic.
	We could talk about that if you want.
	But to your specific question about tyranny, it's attractive.
	People actually are tempted to believe in tyranny.
	I know this is something that's unpopular to say, but biblically, it's totally true.
	Most people, not you, most people do not want to be free.
	And I learned this in COVID.
	It's not to be free.
	I'm sorry.
	It's hard to be free.
	Of course, it's very hard.
	It requires response.
	I'll prove it to you biblically.
	It takes responsibility.
	That's exactly right.
	That means when something goes wrong, you have very few people to blame.
	In fact, the man in the mirror is the person that actually is usually to blame when things go wrong.
	That takes a lot of honesty, and people usually don't like being honest with themselves.
	So let's look at the Bible, right?
	So God delivers God's chosen people out of Egypt.
	10 acts of God and parting the Red Sea.
	Moses brings him out of it, and they're in the wilderness.
	The people of God needed and wanted for nothing.
	Blew quail off course, manna from heaven.
	They were having a great time until they weren't.
	When all of a sudden, the natural kind of behavioral pattern of who we are originally, our original sin, came in.
	Where, and you could read it, it's a quote, they say, hey, who is this Moses guy anyway?
	Why don't you know what?
	We want to go back to Egypt because at least there we were able to eat meat.
	It's true.
	You can look it up.
	Basically, what they are saying is we preferred slavery with good food.
	Right?
	Because freedom in the wilderness with manna and quail, it's not exactly filling my flesh the way I want it to.
	I have to think for myself in the wilderness.
	I have to make my own decisions.
	I have to be self-government.
	Whereas, like in Egypt, I woke up every single day, had meat, do the bricks, go home, whatever.
	It's easy.
	Did what I was supposed to do.
	In fact, it takes courage to want to be free.
	Most countries in the world are not free.
	They might be like soft freedom, as we would call it, but that window will close.
	We know that.
	Most European countries are less free every single day.
	Canada is an unfree country.
	Our country is becoming less free.
	And here's the maxim: we don't teach young people this, which is if you want liberty, you're going to have to want to take responsibility for your actions.
	We teach all the licentiousness, all the license, and none of the responsibility.
	That's basically what college has become, by the way, right?
	Do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it.
	And if anything goes wrong, blame the employer, blame racism, blame colonialism, blame whomever's in charge.
	So, look, to your specific point about how happy, how quickly it can happen, I should say, is it goes to this quote that the great Ernest Hemingway said, which is, look, things happen gradually than suddenly.
	A great quote.
	He had a way with words, didn't he?
	Gradually then suddenly.
	And that's exactly what we're living through.
	How many of you feel as if you're living in a completely different country than you were three years ago?
	I do.
	Like, totally different.
	Where I haven't nominated a Supreme Court who says she doesn't know what a woman is?
	Like, I mean, it's, it's, you scratch your head.
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	Yeah.
	Can you say that?
	But I mean, I could go, I could go one after the other, right?
	And as if we're supposed to tolerate this as if it's normal.
	It happens gradually than suddenly.
	The only thing that can stop the kind of cancer of chaos, as I put it, because it is a cancer and it's spreading quickly, is you.
	You are the antidote.
	It's spirit-filled believers fighting for liberty and order in a land of chaos and confusion.
	Yeah, and I think, yeah, I mean, The church, I mean, the churches are finally starting to stand up in El Paso County, and we're seeing some really good results.
	We're done with people, you know, calling themselves conservatives and they're, you know, well, I can't say that word.
	Everybody gets mad when I say it, but they're not really conservatives.
	But, you know, I think there's a hill for us to die on as Christians.
	You know, yes, yes, I'm against gun control.
	Yes, I'm against sanctuary cities.
	Yes, I'm against open borders.
	But there's three that I like stand on that I will fight to the death for.
	And that is the unborn.
	And you know about our ungodless, crazy abortion bill that just got through.
	CRT intersectionality.
	There's how many races are there in the world?
	There's one race, it's called the human race.
	There's the, you know, the LBGTQ, XYZ, G-L, whatever it may be, gender fluidity, sexual identity stuff.
	I mean, when you have on the cover of Newsweek a man that's woman of the year, something is definitely wrong.
	USA Today.
	Yeah, USA, it was USA Today.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, I get all those.
	Yeah.
	They're all the same.
	But I mean, so you said something once that I really made me curious about.
	I kind of wanted you to unpack it for us.
	Those three inflection points.
	Can you unpack that for me?
	Yeah, so I mean, I'll kind of just add one to that.
	And that was the first, we kind of went through this, which is the church is essential, and we lost that, right?
	We didn't.
	So things need to be organized in a hierarchy.
	We all know that.
	Some things matter than others.
	Understanding a hierarchy is a Christian belief, right?
	We believe that our salvation in Jesus Christ is the most important thing for us personally and for human beings in general, right?
	That's more important than mowing the lawn or if your sports team wins.
	It's the most important thing.
	In fact, we would, you know, eat less meals, right, and be poor if we could have our salvation in Jesus Christ.
	That's the most important thing, right?
	So valuing some things more than others is really important, right?
	It's the hierarchy of needs and wants and concerns.
	And by the way, that's the way you should educate your children.
	The way our government teaches us in our schools is the opposite in our media, which is, well, who's to say that one thing matters more than the other?
	It's very relativistic, very egalitarian.
	You know, we could have a spirited debate of whether or not mowing the lawn or the sports team is more important.
	When you're dealing with ultimate purpose, your salvation, your soul, your spirit, your eternity, whether you're going to heaven or damnation, it's not even worthy of an extended conversation in that regard.
	So the first is the church being non-essential.
	We lost that.
	Most churches really didn't contest on that.
	And the second is you touched on it.
	And I'll be very honest.
	I hate talking about race.
	It doesn't motivate me, and it should motivate you.
	I believe we're all made in the image of God.
	I couldn't care less what your skin color is at all.
	In fact, I think that this entire conversation is so destructive.
	It's so divisive.
	And it's so anti-biblical.
	Neither slave nor Greek nor Jew.
	We are all one in Christ Jesus.
	It's a message that it's about what you can't see that is actually a lot more important than what you can see.
	That's always been what we were raised as Christians, right?
	It's the invisible that matters a lot more than the visible.
	Meaning, you don't know as someone, as soon as someone walks in the room who they are until you get to know them.
	And that takes work.
	That takes patience.
	That's a mature Christian.
	Instead, we're like, you know what?
	I'll be able to have you all figured out just based on the melanin content and your chromosomes.
	And even that we don't even do anymore, right?
	Where it's like those can we just threw that out the window.
	So now it's like all race all the time, right?
	It's like your melanin content is now your value.
	And I think it's so destructive and so disgusting.
	And the church was largely silent, if not complicit on that.
	They were complicit by kind of playing into this kind of soft narrative, some of them, by saying, you know, yeah, maybe America's a little racist.
	I mean, just this is so garbage.
	We're the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.
	We're the only functioning country with the multiracial, multilingual blend of people we have.
	Have you been to Brazil?
	Like, if you go to another country with the kind of diversity we have, the divisions are unbelievable.
	The fact we've been able to do what we've done in America with people from every part of the world, every language, is incredible.
	It's unbelievable, actually.
	And they want to destroy that.
	And it's because of the Christian ethic of looking at actually just focusing on things you can't see instead of things you can't see.
	And put differently, is we as Christians have always had a preference on things you can change, not things you can't change.
	We always care more about the things you can change.
	Like, hey, are you going to give your life to Jesus?
	Yeah, I don't care if you were born in a bad family, that's bad.
	But are you going to give your life to Jesus?
	One thing you could change, one thing you can't change.
	I know you have an abusive father, but do you want to get in a relationship with your heavenly father?
	We've always cared about the things you can change.
	We've always cared about the commitment you can make.
	That's what being a Christian is all about.
	And instead, we're like, you know what?
	Actually, we want to prioritize the things you can't change.
	How depressing, literally.
	No, it is.
	We're going to hyper-focus on the things you can't change.
	That's the opposite of empowerment, by the way.
	And someone's like, okay, I guess I can't change that.
	Now what?
	On the ninth seminar on white fragility, whatever that is, or white privilege, it's like super exhausting and really demoralizing.
	And so then the third thing that you touched on is the gender stuff.
	And the gender stuff and the pro-life stuff are separate, but you can kind of put them in the same bucket, which are just kind of like non-negotiables for the church, honestly.
	And look, the gender stuff is so simple.
	It's so easy.
	And I've been outspoken about this for years, unapologetically, just because I just don't care, honestly.
	But what's so interesting is like the men-woman thing, it's a 95-97% issue.
	It really is.
	Most people believe that there are men and women.
	They do.
	I know that's a radical thing, right?
	They believe men can't become pregnant, even though Apple believes they can.
	But here's the thing: 97% of people agree with I just said, but 99% of people are afraid to comment on it.
	It's the most interesting thing.
	Not even life.
	More people are empowered to speak out on the pro-life issue.
	Praise God, by the way, because that wasn't the case 10 years ago.
	We have bolder, more, more convicted pro-life activists than I've ever seen.
	People are more comfortable really getting into that topic.
	But it's like the gender stuff.
	It's like, whoa.
	It's like, I don't want to get canceled.
	Like, the alphabet mafia is going to come after me or whatever, right?
	And it's like, I can't possibly get into that.
	And it's like, look, we should never steal that.
	Thank you.
	Alphabet Mafia.
	Like it.
	It's not mine.
	I heard it somewhere.
	But I've used it a lot.
	Look, here's the thing.
	We should have grace for all people.
	We should have love for all people, right?
	We should have compassion for all people.
	I wish I want everyone to have Jesus Christ, which I believe will transform them.
	But if all of a sudden you're going to tell me that I got to put up with whatever gender you're telling, and I can obviously see that's not you.
	Like, for example, I'm banned from Twitter, whatever, on this entire thing.
	And I got banned from Twitter by saying that the woman of the year, who's now, who was a man for 54 years and had children, like as a, he didn't have children, but he was a father of children for 54 years, previously named Richard, now named Rachel.
	You're not allowed to dead name somebody.
	Deadnaming is a new phenomenon where if you use the name, even reference that that name used to exist, you are harassing and bullying.
	So then I lost my Twitter account over that.
	Whatever.
	Great.
	Big loss to society, right?
	Yeah.
	Everyone, delete Twitter, stop using it.
	Terrible platform.
	It's terrible.
	Use Getter or Parlor or Truth Social.
	Any one of them are better than that.
	Rumble is great.
	But like, yeah, I mean, I could get into that more if you want in a second, but like the church silent on that issue, really?
	I mean, like Genesis 1, everybody, like, it's not that we don't have to overcomplicate this, but it really goes to the power that they have, the intimidation factor.
	Yeah, the small squeaky wheel, squeaky wheel gets the grease, right?
	Well, yeah, and they're willing to like fire people from their job.
	Like, they're willing to see this all the way through, right?
	Like, we disagree and we say, have a nice day.
	Like, they're like, yeah, I'm going to call your HR department and demand your pension gets pulled.
	I'm going to demand you get publicly harassed.
	And it's a real fear that people have, and I get it.
	I would encourage you to get to a place in your life where you have the freedom to speak out regardless of what they could take away from you.
	That's true freedom.
	I'm not saying it's easy, by the way.
	I'm not.
	I know a lot of people that are living in the state where they're being really terrorized.
	They're living in a state of tyranny.
	And I'm never a person where like, you should do this.
	I actually, I don't say that.
	You got to provide for your family.
	That's way more important.
	I agree with that.
	But you also need to have mental and spiritual freedom in your life at some point, right?
	I encourage you to get to that place to find an employer, to find a job where you're able to speak freely and you don't have to say things you don't believe.
	And so you have to weigh that as the provider.
	I get that.
	I think it's unfair when some people say, how dare you not want to just lose your job?
	Like, yeah, you know what?
	Actually, things cost like twice as much as they did two years ago.
	And like, it costs like $900 to drive from Denver to Colorado Springs now, basically, right?
	So I get it.
	I get the kind of, I'm going to keep my mouth shut because I have to keep on providing for my family.
	But I do want to say you will be a happier person and you will be a freer person the sooner you try to break free from that.
	But look, they're willing to like go totally scorched earth and destroy your life.
	And it's unfortunately very effective.
	But you said something earlier.
	You said, you know, God didn't give us a spirit of fear, but love, power, and a sound mind.
	But also the fear of man is a snare.
	I mean, we have to believe that God is going to take care of his people.
	And so I think as a Christian, we should stand up for what God has called us to do.
	We're not political.
	We stand up for righteousness, right?
	It's a spiritual battle.
	You know, man invented politics.
	God invented government.
	That's the reality of it.
	So speaking in that, you know, we're losing more and more of our freedoms.
	Freedom requires constant guarding, constant.
	We have to guard.
	We have to fight against it.
	I'm worried about my eight kids.
	You know, what's going to happen with my eight kids?
	And one of the things that I'm really seeing happen right before my eyes, and this is the big subject for everybody right now, but is globalism.
	You know what I mean?
	I mean, we're losing more and more of our civil liberties.
	The authoritarianism is coming in with such a rampant force, the Great Reset, all that kind of stuff.
	Can you speak into that?
	I know that you and Jack covered it great, but I think these people need to hear it.
	I did an extensive conversation with Jack Hibbs on this topic.
	I encourage you guys.
	I don't like to do the, well, you got to go, you know, if you guys listen to that podcast, the Charlie Kirk show, it's the Great Reset, we've received more feedback from that hour and a half.
	It's been seen millions of times on YouTube, Facebook, podcasting combined.
	We really did a lot of research, study, and prayer going into that.
	Jack and I did.
	But I'll touch on a little bit of it.
	I think it's really important.
	Look, if your pastor isn't talking about the Great Reset, at least on a semi-regular basis, then they're not doing their job.
	And so The Great Reset was a book literally written, by the way.
	You can get the book.
	You can read it yourself.
	It's by Klaus Schwab.
	And so basically, there were eight predictions made for the Great Reset.
	Then they kind of changed them as soon as they were discovered.
	They're like, oh, no, just kidding.
	Here are the eight new ones.
	The eight new ones are still bad, but the eight original ones, I'll try to remember them the best I can.
	The United States will no longer be the world's superpower.
	You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
	People really won't eat meat anymore.
	Energy, as we know it, fossil fuels will be completely abolished.
	Western values will have reached their breaking point.
	The world will have a billion new refugees.
	We're going to be preparing to go to Mars.
	And there's one more I can't remember.
	So, seven out of eight, not bad for memory, right?
	So, um, but there's one more, and we'll think of it.
	Um, and so basically, they're kind of weird, bizarre, all over the place predictions.
	But the broader point, and I think we got to just focus on the word reset, right?
	So, we're kind of living through this time where it's chaos, and I believe firmly the chaos is by design, right?
	This is not exactly a moment that we're living through that is accidental.
	And so, you think if someone wants to reset something, right?
	Well, then, first you have to break it.
	And what's what really has kind of flummoed or really confused the world elites is they did not realize how resilient America and the American people were.
	They didn't, they underestimated that, they did.
	And so, they underestimated your entrepreneurial resolve, they underestimated your work ethic, they underestimated your values, they underestimated your perseverance, they underestimated all of it.
	And so, the masters of the universe, first, let's talk about what they want: they want a borderless society, they want a one-world government.
	It's not conjecture, it's not conspiracy theory, it's in the book, okay?
	They believe the world will be better when sovereignty is eroded, when people can move freely from country to country, that you have a global citizenship, not a national citizenship.
	They believe nationalism is the root of war, and poverty, and hunger, and strife.
	Now, this is an anti-biblical view, right?
	We believe human beings are the root of all those things, and our nature, not in connection with Christ and the biblical teachings, is that they believe external circumstances are to blame and that human beings are generally good.
	This is one of the things why the church needs to speak out about this.
	So, a global project that they're trying to get us to really needs to come straight through America, right?
	Most of Europe has basically already been globalized, with you know, the exception of a couple of countries, Hungary being one of them.
	They basically have become just a continent of one.
	Um, they're trying to do this all across the world, but America really is the stumbling block, right?
	America's 5% of the world's population gets 25% of the GDP, 5% of the world's population get 20% of the energy consumption, 5% of the world's population get 40% of the energy of energy production and exporting.
	It's a lot, right?
	I mean, this is a super, it's a super beast, not to mention the cultural influence, the economic influence.
	And we all know this: that America, because of our traditions and our people and our history, that we stand up to tyranny both domestically and abroad.
	And that really is kind of a threat to kind of the whole great reset crowd.
	So, they got to break it.
	They got to break our will, break our resolve.
	And let's just talk about something technically.
	They got to break our currency, right?
	That's the first thing they got to do.
	And that's exactly what they're doing.
	And this doesn't take like some sort of bond villain conspiracy theory.
	I mean, have you seen how many dollars we've created in the last two years?
	Somewhere between 50 to 60 percent of all dollars ever created have been injected into the economy in the last two years.
	Inflation is you getting poor every single day, okay?
	And no, the people gets rich with inflation, Bill Gates gets richer, Jeff Bezos gets richer.
	They can move their assets quickly, they can buy land, they can buy things that go up with inflation.
	You get poor, you get poor when you go to the gas pump, you get bored when you poor when you try to buy property, you get poorer when you go to the grocery store.
	And what really shocks Americans is the only two currencies that have not reset in the last 100 years is the US dollar and sterling, the pound.
	Every other currency from the Russian ruble to the you know, to the German mark or the franc mark, I can't remember, um, has reset in the last hundred years.
	Resetting currencies happens all the time in the third world.
	Now, people lose like 80% of their wealth when it happens, but this is something that Americans really aren't used to.
	And you look at a curve of the value of the US dollar, it's gone down dramatically.
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	They need to do it because America is a stumbling block.
	Now, what do they want to actually replace America with?
	They want to replace America with the Davos agenda, which is where the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab and all these people meet, which is they want the world to be controlled by a technocracy.
	They want more people in charge, like Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau, and they want to have secular, technocratic, type values reign supreme.
	Put simply it's going to come at direct odds with the Christian worldview and your ability to homeschool and raise your children.
	Some of these people are part of the depopulation movement, by the way.
	Some of these people have outwardly signed letters and have been part of the fact that the world has too many people.
	We have to try to depopulate.
	In fact, you should try to stop having children, which is actually the eighth part.
	Now you remember the eighth one, which is all about climate change, right?
	Which is that climate change is a terrible thing.
	People are going to be displaced by it.
	So, what does this mean for all of you?
	Well, this is the lens that you have to use by how you look at the news.
	When things seem otherwise very confusing, all of a sudden you're like, oh, they're trying to get us there.
	They're trying to use the tension.
	They're trying to use the breaking.
	They're trying to use the shattering of your home, your country, your civilization as a means to the end to try to get us to a globalist experiment.
	And this is something that they talk about openly.
	They forget about the Second Amendment.
	Yeah, I mean, they forget about that.
	And I mean, that's one part of it, right?
	Is this going to happen before or after all you run out of ammo?
	Well, like, you know, they think they could do it without ever a shot being fired, right?
	So you're not wrong.
	Like, the Second Amendment is the amendment that protects all the other amendments.
	It's not for hunting.
	It's not for self-defense.
	I love all those things, but it's the pretend.
	It's the pretend.
	It's the protect of free people against a usurptatious government.
	We know that.
	That's why it was written.
	The founding fathers put it in there explicitly for that.
	But they think they'll be able to do it without ever having to get to physical confrontation.
	They think that by breaking your currency, by having us all subservient to your robot masters, by having your four-year-old put goggles on all day long through oculus goggles and playing more time in the metaverse in the real world, which is happening, by the way, in a lot of families, right?
	Where your screen time overwhelms your real time, right?
	Where we don't know the difference between men and women, where the morale of the society decreases so much.
	You get the theme here on the pattern.
	They think they can break us by other means, right?
	Where they know how armed America is.
	I'm not even saying they would try to ever invade America.
	I'm not even suggesting that.
	But if they were, if there was ever to be like some sort of threat there, no, they're going to try to break us spiritually, try to break our resolve, try to have us under a system where our freedoms and our liberties.
	Like, I'll give you a great example.
	Like, if they get their way and they put a social credit system exactly like they have in China, we're heading that way, by the way, just so you know.
	We are full speed ahead going to a social credit system.
	Cameras on every corner, facial expression not right.
	You know, a statement against the regime, a tweet we don't like.
	All the social media stuff is conditioning you, by the way, for a social credit system.
	I'm not in a good place on the social credit system.
	My Twitter was taken away from me.
	And you could say it's Orwellian.
	I'm a big fan of 1984.
	It's a great book.
	Every Christian Parent Should Teach 1984.
	16 and older.
	There's some pretty explicit sexual scenes in there.
	So you got to make sure that you could even cut those out.
	It's totally unnecessary.
	But there's some parts of the book that are so amazing.
	And there's one quote that Orwell says.
	He said, The best way to keep a secret from the government is to first keep it from yourself.
	I want you to think about that.
	That the government will know everything about you.
	That the only way to keep the secret about the government is you have to first keep it from yourself.
	We are stumbling towards that very quickly.
	So we can get to the solution for all that.
	But I think they've widely underestimated you.
	I think that these people are increasingly paranoid.
	They're also very arrogant.
	They're fighting amongst themselves.
	But you must know the threats of the looming great reset.
	It's, I think, one of the great pressures that is being pushed down on American Christianity and American sovereignty.
	Two things I want to touch on.
	You know, your stance on social media and how you and your wife spend time together.
	But also, you did mention a solution.
	I'd like to hear that solution.
	I think everybody would like to hear that solution.
	But yeah, again, back to your verse again.
	God didn't give us a spirit of fear, but love, power, and a sound mind.
	Yeah, so let's just go to the solution.
	I mean, you're already doing it.
	I got a lot of emails from you leading up to this.
	You're showing up to school board meetings.
	You're shaking the foundation of the Great Reset.
	You're homeschooling your kid.
	You're shaking the foundation of the Great Reset.
	You feed your child meat.
	You're shaking the foundation.
	I'm not kidding.
	I have a, no, seriously.
	It's a very real thing.
	I have a whole speech on meat, by the way.
	I do.
	It's a very raised cattle.
	No.
	This whole, and look, I was open-minded to it.
	Like, fine, like, okay, plant-based burger here and there, whatever.
	But like, I honestly, you look at the testosterone levels in American men.
	They're down 80% in the last 40 years.
	Go look at it.
	And they're down 80%.
	Your son is not the man your grandfather was, wasn't he?
	And there's got to be some reasons for that, right?
	And maybe it's because of meat.
	Maybe it's because of something else.
	I don't know.
	But every study shows red meat and working out definitely doesn't hurt testosterone levels, right?
	Doesn't hurt.
	Every independent study shows that.
	So, and I'm half kidding about that whole thing, but you should feed your kid meat.
	So, so yeah, look, what do you do?
	Well, they're already realizing this is not going to be as easy as they thought.
	And just every day you should just say a prayer: Lord, thank you for the courage and the wisdom of the founding fathers and the country able to live in.
	Because you are still in heaven, you are still inheriting that gift.
	You are still inheriting that gift multiple generations away.
	One of them is the states created the federal government, the federal government didn't create the states.
	That means it's a lot harder to get 330 million people to do something if there's all these different layers of government that's a check and balance on power.
	It's a lot harder.
	This is something that the lockdown artists failed at during COVID here, yet in Europe, they were successful.
	In Europe, if Berlin, Brussels, Paris, Rome say something, the whole country locks down.
	Here, if DC says something, it's like, oh, you got your state, you got your county, you got your local, and then beyond that, you got to tell me to go wear a mask when I shower, Mr. Fauci.
	Okay, it's not going to happen.
	And you got DeSantis.
	Yeah.
	And so what happened was, you know, the liberal Justice Louis Brandeis said this: laboratories of democracy.
	And it was kind of messy, but it was messy in a good way, wasn't it?
	I mean, it was bad for you guys in Colorado.
	It was bad in California, but you guys weren't even the worst, by the way.
	You weren't.
	You guys opened up earlier.
	You were like probably in the middle of the past.
	El Paso County, we still, I mean, we opened up really quickly.
	Yeah, totally.
	And that's because of good county supervisors and you.
	And so, but in Europe, like the whole country goes locked down as soon as the edict comes from the centralized authority, because in Italy or in Germany or in France, like the center of the government created the provinces, not the other way around.
	So the founders, they came together as a collection of states, previously sovereign, because it was a collection of people previously sovereign to then create a national federal government.
	And then if there were questions that weren't specifically defined in the Bill of Rights, they go back to the states and the people.
	That's what the 10th Amendment says, right?
	And so when the lockdowns came, you had Florida that was open, South Dakota that was open, some states that remained closed.
	And where did you see the most amount of people moving to?
	The open states, and it just drives me nuts because the very same people who voted for the lockdown politicians started to move into the open states.
	You've all experienced that.
	I live in Phoenix.
	It's happening all the time.
	But still, hopefully they'll learn something and we could teach them something and they can grow in wisdom and stature of what liberty and freedom is.
	Might be woefully optimistic or idealistic in that way.
	But it's a lot harder to command and control a country that was built from the bottom up.
	And that's what the founders gave you.
	They built a structure that was bottom up, not top down.
	A lot harder to implement tyranny.
	It's not impossible, by the way.
	There's federal decrees, right?
	But even the current administration, they tried to do vaccine mandates nationwide.
	It failed, right?
	They tried to do all these things.
	And so, and by the way, in like in Canada, Canada, they just signed a piece of paper and it's done.
	And so that gives me hope.
	But I'll tell you, there's a revival of citizenship happening in our country right now.
	And we call it at Turning Point USA, the rise of the citizen.
	It's the rise of the disagreeable mom who's going to the superintendent, be like, who put you in charge, actually?
	You know nothing.
	I pay your salary.
	I don't care.
	You went to Berkeley.
	That actually makes me think less of you.
	We're in charge.
	And there's 600 moms you're going to have to listen to.
	So sit down and listen to us.
	That gives me hope.
	And it's happening all across the country.
	Don't want to mess with Mamma Berry.
	No.
	Don't want a message.
	And so the final thing is this, is that I'm seeing a revival, in fact, a new interest.
	And I just want to encourage you, because you're doing this, and it is shaking the ground that the great reset crowd is standing on to try to terrorize you or to try to put tyranny upon you, is this, which is a revival of self-government.
	It's, all right, if things fall apart, who am I going to point to?
	Do I have food to feed my family?
	Water to make sure that they have the proper hydration.
	Do I have the ability to defend myself?
	You have to all of a sudden get back into a posture of I am going to take responsibility for what I care about.
	No more blaming other people.
	That's what you could do to all of a sudden shake the matrix of the great reset.
	It is the opposite of what they need you to do.
	They need you to be hands out, give me benefits, give me stimulus checks, give me what you need.
	The opposite is like, no, I'm going to grow my own food.
	I'm going to have my own emergency supply.
	I'm going to educate my kids.
	I'm going to be able to have reserves.
	I'm going to be in charge of my own destiny, actually, to the best I can.
	I'll leave the rest up to the Lord, right?
	I'm going to have community.
	I'm going to have friends.
	We're going to look out for each other.
	We're going to care about our local government.
	Amen.
	And we're not going to bend a knee to Davos.
	We're not going to bend a knee to Washington.
	You understand that when you do that, when you do that, you're strengthening your sovereignty is what you're doing.
	I know it might not feel that way.
	It might be, but you understand it makes you so much tougher to be eliminated.
	The people in charge will say, man, those people in El Paso County, they grow their own food.
	Like, they educate their kids.
	Like, they're not buying what we're selling.
	How are we going to, how are we going to be in control there?
	And what you want them is you're like, we're not.
	Amen.
	Like, we're going to go like rule over Berkeley or like whatever, right?
	Fine, go have fun.
	Great.
	They want to be ruled.
	They want, like, we want, we want the people to be rulers.
	We do not want the rulers to rule the people unnecessarily without our consent.
	So, yeah, that's what gives me hope.
	That's the solution.
	But it's going to take an act of citizenry.
	It's going to take a disagreeable citizenry.
	And I'm going to tell you something that you might not want to hear.
	And it's something that's true.
	And you guys would expect nothing but the truth.
	It's going to take many decades probably to rebuild this thing.
	And I know you might not want to hear it, but the founding fathers knew they weren't going to see the perfect country the moment they started it.
	The most important things, the things that are done that are remembered in history is when you start a cause, you don't see the end.
	Cause of Moses.
	Cause of our founding fathers.
	It's the cause of the greatest generation that stormed Normandy Beach.
	And one in four were mowed down when they came out to go fight totalitarianism.
	So that should actually give you hope.
	Because there's kind of this thing like, Charlie, 30 years is too long for me.
	I want to see results now.
	Well, I'm not going to lie to you.
	It's going to take a while to rebuild this thing.
	And it's going to take a lot of fights.
	And we have momentum and we can have some big wins and big victories.
	We want the trajectory to go in our way, but we're just now starting to fight after they have been doing their program for the last 50 years.
	But I want you to look at your grandkids.
	Like, you're worth it.
	You're worth me not becoming cynical.
	You're worth me not becoming pessimistic.
	You're worth me believing in the intergenerational promise.
	You're worth me not saying that I'm just going to keep on just cashing it in.
	And that's the moral thing to do.
	And guess what?
	That takes courage.
	It does.
	It takes courage to want to believe in something you might not see the entire end of.
	Because it's easier to just kind of turn on TV, be like, yeah, whatever.
	You know, I'm not going to fight for it.
	I hope for the best.
	That's cowardly.
	You know that.
	But I'm seeing a beautiful, multi-generational movement be formed of people from all walks of life, plumbers, electricians, police officers, pastors, moms, and dads engage at every single level, saying, you know what?
	I'm going to do everything I possibly can.
	I'm going to leave the rest up to the Lord.
	But for my grandkids, I want them to live in a free country.
	I'm going to do everything I possibly can to make sure that happens.
Protecting Our Grandkids 00:08:06
	One more question.
	I think it's good for the kids because, like you said, the metaverse and the social media.
	And you, just for, because, look, if you look at the crowd and see all the young people out there that are, I would say, addicted to their social media, addicted to their phones.
	And you guys are a social media platform.
	I mean, that's how you get your information out.
	So I know you're not against social media.
	No, I am, for sure.
	Yeah.
	But, I mean, well, I mean, I'll be.
	Yeah, go ahead, sorry.
	But you and your wife have set up some cool boundaries.
	I think it'd be good for the kids to hear.
	Yeah, and families to hear, because it's spiritual.
	I do believe it's a spirituality.
	Oh, for sure.
	It looks like cocaine to a lot of these kids.
	It is.
	No, it's actually worse than cocaine.
	Every study shows that.
	It affects the brain worse than heroin.
	And I could get into that.
	So, yeah, look, it's a means to the end.
	I have no social media apps on my phone.
	I'm blessed to be able to have a team that manages it all for me.
	I know that's something that is unrealistic for a lot of people, but I've cut out these apps a long time ago.
	I use it as a distribution thing, no different if I have like an email listserv or whatever.
	I approve all the posts, but I consume nothing.
	Okay?
	So with that being said, I know that's unrealistic for a lot of you.
	You get your news and information from it.
	So let me just start with one thing that my wife and I started to do back in July that is biblical that I think the American church has forgotten.
	And I think, and I'm going to write my next two books from now, my next book's about college and why you shouldn't go to college.
	But the book after that is going to be about this topic.
	Why you shouldn't go to public school?
	Have that in there, too.
	I will, yes.
	But no, my, and two, but it really is the gift of the Sabbath.
	And I've done a lot of thinking about this.
	So I take a Jewish Sabbath every Friday night.
	I'm not legalistic about it.
	I'll get in a car.
	If I have to speak somewhere, I will, but I turn my phone off completely.
	I'm unreachable by the world, and I'm consuming no information from the world for 24 hours, Friday night to Saturday night.
	And so I do six days of work, Sunday through Friday night, and I just kind of close off.
	Now, a couple of ways I got to doing this.
	By the way, I'm not saying we're bound by that law.
	I'm not.
	It's the only New Testament law that Jesus did not repeat to say that we're bound to.
	The argument I'm making is that it will bless you.
	That's a separate argument, and that it did actually predate the law because it was during creation.
	We'll get into that, okay?
	Because I get in this theological thing.
	Someone said, Charlie, your theology is terrible.
	We're not bound by it.
	I've never said that, okay?
	Make your own decision, but I guarantee it will improve your life.
	I always say just put it in your theological pipe and smoke it.
	Yeah, that's see, I got to work with a lot of different pastors.
	So, look, every Friday night, the phones go off for 24 hours, 25 hours.
	And we do it for a couple of reasons.
	I believe in the Old Testament, one of the Ten Commandments was important enough to bless God's chosen people.
	For me, it really makes you prioritize what matters most.
	It reorganizes the hierarchy, remember?
	So, I think our hierarchies are messed up in our country right now.
	What better way to reorganize them than to turn off the top way that we get interrupted, anxious, depressed, and notified more than anything else?
	And that's that little digital pacifier that we all carry around, right?
	And so, look, that's one thing we do.
	Let me just say one more thing about the Sabbath.
	If every American Christian took the Sabbath seriously, similar to what I just talked about, I believe there would be less anxiety, less depression, more patriotism, stronger families, and less of the kind of problems we're seeing.
	I believe that, just from the Ten Commandments standpoint, I believe that the Ten Commandments is the commandment that makes the other nine possible.
	I do.
	For example, one of the commandments that is falling apart in our country is a commandment that every totalitarian government seeks to eliminate, which is the bond between a parent and a child.
	Every country that has a tyrant wants to make parents distant from their children and vice versa.
	It is the only one of the Ten Commandments that comes with a promise and involves your nation.
	Honor your mother and father so that you might live long in the land of which you are in.
	So, it involves your country and it comes with a specific promise.
	So, how do we properly honor our parents?
	How do you grow closer to your children?
	How about have a Shabbos Friday night dinner every Friday?
	In a technologically dominated world, it's a great way to reprioritize family.
	And some people say, Charlie, I'm too busy.
	I can't do that.
	I'm busy too.
	I traveled 330 days last year.
	I got 280 people that work for me.
	I do three podcasts a day, and I got to raise a boatload of money to keep this whole thing going.
	We're all busy.
	I get it.
	You might be busier than me.
	I get it.
	No, maybe you are, right?
	You got eight kids.
	My goodness.
	That's more than what I got to deal with.
	I want to challenge you to do this.
	Your life will be blessed, okay?
	So, just from the social media thing in general, parents, your children should not get any social media apps or a phone till they're 18 years old, period.
	These things, it is more dangerous, it is more dangerous to give a child a smartphone than to give them a firearm.
	It's that simple.
	It will destroy their life, it will destroy their self-image, it'll destroy their communication habits, it'll destroy how they consume information.
	There is zero redeemable value for a teenager to have social media, period.
	I will go up, I will go head-to-head on anyone against that.
	You know why?
	Because I lived it, I run it, I publish on it, I have millions of followers on it.
	Kind of a subject matter expert on it.
	It's not redeemable.
	There's other ways to consume the information we publish outside of social media, by the way.
	That's only a means to the end for us.
	It's a tool, it's a technology.
	No difference at a shovel or a wheel.
	That's the way we look at it.
	I look at it as a way to reach the target audience.
	Look, it's tough, though.
	You know, there's a lot of peer pressure, a lot of friends that have it.
	Oh, how am I going to know?
	That's up for parents, I think, to get in.
	But you want to know why this is the most depressed, suicidal, anxious, medicated, alcohol-addicted, drug-overdosing generation in history?
	Well, they're also the most godless and soulless, but they're staring at a screen of something that doesn't exist, of a reality that isn't reality, of a fabricated algorithm designed by profit-seeking, technologically dominated, Silicon Valley, secular technocrats that have hired neuroscientists that do lab rat-style studies on six-year-olds so that your grandchildren can stare at screens longer.
	I'm trying to warn you: this is a new heroin.
	And I know it's hard, I know it's tough, but the earlier you draw those lines, the expectation for your child or grandchild, the freer your kid will be.
	The least free people I know are people that look at their phones all day long, myself included.
	That's why I decided to detach from them for one day a week.
	It's my freest day of the week.
	And I just say, you know what?
	God wants me to be free of this phone.
	And yeah, I turn it back on and I have 600 text messages, 1,000 emails.
	No, I do.
	No, it's true.
	But everyone, everyone's going to touch me, and they say, where were you?
	I took a day for God.
	What you had to say wasn't important enough.
	There, fine.
	Have a nice day.
	Right?
	No, seriously.
	But I mean, I see the moms and dad nod their heads this way, and I see the kids with like shout out to the tear in their eyes.
	I'll close with this.
	Take with what you want.
	I'm not saying you're a bad person if you don't do this.
	I'm not moralizing.
	I'm just trying to help you.
	I'm trying to help you because I meet far too many parents where their kids don't share their values.
	They're depressed.
	Their eyes are wide open.
	They're watching their screens nine or ten hours a day.
	They're not human.
	They're more cyborg.
	They're just waiting for the goggles to come on to go into some weird, ready player one extra existence.
	If you ever seen the movie, it's actually a phenomenal movie that shows where we're going.
	We spend more time with the goggles on than in reality.
	God doesn't want you to live that way.
	Amen.
	It's not the way that I want you to live either.
	And so I just, I want to challenge you to live free of the tech tyranny that's coming your way.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	All right.
	So it is time for QA.
	But there's rules with QA.
	The mics are on either side over here.
	If you give a statement or a bio, we will shut you off.
	This is for questions only.
	So if you come up, you must have a question.
	My team in the back, if you begin to politicize or make a statement, we'll shut you off.
Living Free of Tech 00:04:17
	Sorry, that's the rules.
	Any problem with those rules?
	All right, let's do this.
	Ladies and gentlemen, if you guys stand in, can you line up when I'll sign up?
	Thank you.
	We'll go right side of me to left side.
	Wow.
	And with current events, I was wondering how you would go about men being in women's sports.
	So, and a turning point USA chapter leader.
	We'll give it up for her for that.
	That's the real courage.
	That takes the strength.
	And to say that to a late weightlifter is a big deal.
	NCAA?
	Technically, yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah, look, you're in a tough spot.
	So again, I'm on this pastor chain, and they're all such amazing pastors, and they were so enthusiastic.
	And I just asked him, I said, how many of you guys know other pastors that have informed their congregation about William Thomas?
	And people are like, who's William Thomas?
	All right, well, let's talk about William Thomas.
	So William Thomas has destroyed female sports, as we know.
	I'm sure William Thomas is a nice person.
	I guarantee you, William Thomas needs counseling and therapy.
	I want that for that person.
	I want the best for them.
	I want every human being to be able to flourish.
	But I also don't like cheaters.
	And you shouldn't either.
	So William Thomas is a cheater.
	William Thomas is a man who is suffering from gender dysphoria.
	It's a legitimate psychological condition.
	Gender dysphoria is where you think you're in a different body than you actually are.
	We're not the first civilization to deal with this.
	For thousands of years, this has been a phenomenon.
	And for the last 60 years, we've had non-medical ways of having counseling and therapy to be able to deal with this in a rather understated and private way.
	Just in the last couple of years, we've decided to elevate and platform gender dysphoria as some sort of identity crisis.
	So William Thomas was the 462nd best male swimmer in America.
	William Thomas then woke up one day and said, I am now a woman.
	William Thomas is now an NCAA national champion, best woman swimmer in the country, and won the NCAA championship just two weeks ago.
	And we're just supposed to put up with it.
	Now, the NCAA has, of course, capitulated to the Alphabet Mafia and all of the kind of forces around it.
	And the other women, God bless them, have had to try to compete against a man and lose, by the way, as William Thomas became a national champion.
	So I have a different take on this.
	Not different, but one that I think is, you know, important for contribution.
	This is not your fight.
	You are a woman.
	Where are the men?
	So here's where I'm really upset: we believe that men are protectors, protectors of the innocent, protectors of what is the natural law.
	I would say that women don't have fight in them, but men need to lead.
	So at the NCAA tournament, what I would have loved to have seen in a different America, in a 1950s America, let me tell you what would have happened.
	Yeah.
	Let me tell you what would have happened.
	Is that the fathers of every other competitor would have come down out of the stands and formed a line in front of William Thomas and saying, hey, tough guy.
	You want to get in the pool?
	Because you're going to have to come through us.
	Instead, I watch these videos of these masked, beta male, low-testosterone fathers kind of hunched over, not wanting to offend anyone as they work for the corporate machine.
	And I say, that's why this is happening.
	Women have been left to fend for themselves.
Fathers Forming a Line 00:03:42
	And guess what?
	Now men are terrorizing them.
	William Thomas is a man terrorizing other women.
	Why are we putting up with this?
	And the reason is because we've allowed men to become weak.
	And so I'm about done with this whole topic.
	My patience has run thin.
	And so here's my challenge for every man across America.
	This is happening in your local school board.
	It's not a matter of showing up to meetings and all this.
	You need to intervene.
	You need to show up to the sporting men.
	Like, this is not happening, actually.
	You're not competing against my daughter.
	She has XX chromosomes.
	You have XY chromosomes.
	Get off the court.
	Get out of the pool.
	It's not going to happen anymore.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	So I'm Noah.
	And so I am really interested in getting involved in politics.
	And I want to eventually run for Congress someday.
	But I have no idea.
	I have no idea how to get involved.
	And whenever I try to research it, it says go to college.
	It says do all that.
	I don't want to go to college for politics because I don't want to be indoctrinated.
	I don't think.
	So how do you get involved?
	How do I get involved?
	How do I learn what to do, especially being young Republican?
	So can I ask you a couple questions?
	Yes.
	How many doors have you ever knocked on for a candidate?
	Okay, so you need at least 25,000 doors before you even figure out whether you want to get involved in politics or not.
	I'm not kidding.
	I cut my teeth in the suburbs of Chicago trying to convince Chicagoans to vote for Republicans.
	100,000 doors for all sorts of different types of candidates.
	Mark Kirk, you name it, no relation.
	You'll learn a lot about yourself and you learn whether or not you want to be in this business.
	Now, I'm not patronizing you at all because the problem is we tell you, go get your political science degree.
	No, you don't need that, actually.
	Go get a clipboard.
	Go knock on a bunch of doors.
	Volunteer for a city council candidate.
	Volunteer for a state rep candidate.
	Volunteer for a state Senate candidate, get to know them, and figure out if this is really what you want to do or not, right?
	Oh, yeah, no, for sure.
	And by the way, it could just be a summer, right?
	$10,000 sounds ambitious.
	You could divide it up.
	It's very, very important.
	And it's important because that's really what politics is.
	It's not the pizzaz, not the Instagram followers.
	Politics is people.
	Politics is relationships, right?
	So that's the first thing.
	The second thing, the cool thing about politics, which is why college is completely unnecessary for politics, is that it's a pure meritocracy.
	And you know this, those of you that are running campaigns, you hire the person that shows up the earliest, stays there the latest.
	Politics is where you can move up super quick based on how hard you work.
	It's like it rewards competency and people that put in a lot of hours.
	College teaches you none of those things, by the way.
	And so I would just, the best advice I could give you is activity.
	Just be active.
	And by the way, a couple months in, you might say, I don't want to do this.
	Awesome.
	At age 18, you found out what you don't want to do.
	Most people have to go to college and go into debt to figure out, I don't want to do this.
	They go borrow money they don't have to study things that don't matter, to find jobs that don't exist.
	And they go to Colorado University Boulder and they're studying North African lesbian poetry and they're wondering why.
	And they're like, I don't know what I want to do, so action.
	And so that's what I would tell you.
	And then finally, ask for opportunities.
	We need more young people involved.
	But doors, doors, doors, activity, the local matters the most.
	I just want to encourage you for that.
The Fight for Youth 00:05:23
	Thank you.
	So you don't want statements, you want questions.
	Let me see if I can do this.
	Why do you keep giving credence to the crazy commentary on Romans 13, 1, bowing and surrendering to the government when Paul said in verse 3, the government is forgetting the bad guys?
	What in the world was he basing that on?
	Solomon in the Proverbs, the throne is established in righteousness.
	When it's not, it goes against God's government, and that government is illegal.
	It needs to be taken down.
	Solomon said again in Proverbs 28, 4, those who obey God resist the wicked.
	Let's get in gear.
	Let's fight them.
	I don't think so.
	Yeah.
	Anybody else knew that?
	I'm about to turn your mic up, but that was great.
	Yeah.
	I think that might have been a question.
	I mean.
	Why do we give it credence?
	Well, look, we're only addressing the consensus of American Christianity.
	That's why.
	So we are addressing an overly cited verse that is used and is an excuse for inaction.
	That's why we keep on mentioning it to answer your question, is that every pastor at every corner in every community uses that verse as a reason not to have forums like this to answer your specific question.
	Can I put a plug in?
	So I did a teaching.
	It's about an hour long.
	It's called Romans 13, Forgetting God.
	And I unpacked that in great detail.
	You can find it on our YouTube channel.
	I encourage you, anybody that wants to hear the true meaning of Romans 13 for the United States of America, We the People.
	It's on our YouTube channel, Romans 13, Forgetting God.
	Thank you.
	Hi, I'd just like to know where fixing the election fraud problem falls within your platform.
	Great.
	So I think we're streaming on YouTube right now, so I don't want to lose Twitter and YouTube in the same week, but what the heck.
	So I won't be good for business.
	Look, it's a huge part of my platform, especially personally, and my podcast.
	We cover it probably only second to probably Bannon's show about what happened in the 2020 election.
	I'm in Dinesh D'Azouza's upcoming movie, by the way, called 2,000 Mules.
	So I don't want to spend too much time on this, but let me just kind of comment on this a little bit.
	2,000 Meals will be one of the most effective and persuasive movies you'll ever see that shows exactly what happened in the 2020 election using geolocated cell technology, cellular technology, publicly available to anyone at any time, able to trace the activity of over 2,000 people that visited ballot drop boxes alongside video that shows people coming out of videos at 3.45 in the morning.
	When we coming out of cars, I should say, at 3.45 in the morning, where we all vote, when we all vote, right?
	3.45 in the morning, fully masked with latex gloves on, piles of ballots going up to ballot drop boxes, stuffing them in after taking a picture of every single ballot, closing the ballot drop box and taking off the latex gloves and throwing them in the trash can to not get any fingerprints on them, one after the other, after the other, after the other.
	You're going to see that in that movie and more.
	So look, it was the most interfered with election in history.
	I could talk about the Hunter Biden laptop thing, which was an unbelievable injustice by the lack of reporting by the American regime media.
	The fact that the New York Times, that Politico and all them, said that it wasn't true before the election while votes were being counted.
	And then afterwards they said, oh, yeah, by the way, it is true, was a direct action of election interference, was anti-democratic, was authoritarian in nature, that the paper of record would do that, Politico alongside, and it directly interfered with our election.
	17% of voters said they would have voted differently if they would have known out of one of the Hunter Biden-Joe Biden scandals, one of them, yet it was completely and totally suppressed.
	So that's one part of it, if I could say.
	The other part of it is the $430 million pumped in by Mark Zuckerberg in the Center for Technology and Civic Life.
	That was a complete hijacking of our elections that put in privately funded ballot drop boxes.
	So I could keep on going and going, not to mention all the election rules that were broken.
	You guys know the Colorado situation far better than I do.
	I don't know it very well.
	I'll be very honest.
	I know Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan really well.
	That's where my attention's been.
	But my goodness, you guys have been the playground, the Petri dish for mass mail-in ballot shenanigans that has then been exported to every other state.
	So I just want to encourage you in that fight.
	I want to encourage you to fight for election integrity.
	It is not a political issue.
	It is a foundational issue for our Republic.
	And if you're not aware of what's going on with Tina Peters, I'd definitely look into that.
	If you don't, I'm shocked at the amount of Christians that have not been following the Secretary of the State, who's a Soros-backed lady, Jenna Griswold, and what she is doing to Tina Peters, weaponizing the FBI against her and Sharona Bishop and everything else.
	So Sharona Bishop, Tina Peters, if you're not familiar with those two things, you need to stop being complacent, complicit, and complacent.
	So next question.
What Is True Courage 00:04:14
	We're going to get to as many as we can, okay?
	Hi, Charlie.
	My name is Callie.
	I know that you and I are pretty close in age, and I started my business when I was 18.
	So I have a unique set of circumstances versus most of the people my age who are in the military or work for corporations or that type of thing.
	We're kind of past college, but in the workforce a little bit more.
	And I was wondering how you encourage the courage in other people when you don't necessarily face it yourself.
	I'm kind of in an uncanceful situation, and so is my husband.
	But how do we encourage our friends who are not?
	Yeah, that's a tough question.
	Difficult because this is the question that I probably spend most of my time is studying courage.
	It's so rare.
	And yet we all know it when we see it.
	We kind of just stand and point when we see courage, right?
	Like put it on our screen and we just love it.
	Yeah, go, Tucker.
	You have courage.
	Great.
	I like that.
	I'll buy the pillow.
	Great.
	It's good.
	So, love that.
	It's like we love courage when we see it, right?
	And yet, I have to say, though, that how do we spread courage?
	Well, first we have to lead, follower, or get out of the way.
	It requires, it requires people to be courage in them, first and foremost.
	So, Plato had a great quote when it came to courage.
	He said, Courage is the proper disposition towards fear.
	Not that you shouldn't have fear, but it's knowing what you should be afraid of.
	That's what courage is, right?
	And so, how do we spread courage to other people?
	We have to platform the courageous.
	We have to be courageous ourselves.
	We have to defend the courageous.
	We have to know when the courageous are under attack.
	Now, this is a very important thing, though, is that there's a difference between being bold and courageous.
	And what's the difference?
	Okay, being bold is when you're fighting for something that might not be good.
	I'm sure there's plenty of Russian soldiers that are being bold, but they are not being courageous because their end is not right.
	They're invading a sovereign country, they're bombing civilians.
	They might be bold, but they're not courageous.
	Courage is when you have the right end in mind.
	Courage is when you're fighting for the right thing.
	That's what courage is.
	So, not courage is doing the right thing for the right end when you do not know how it's going to turn out.
	That's what courage is.
	When there is risk involved, that is courage.
	Think about it.
	If you just got to show up to work, that's not courageous.
	That's just you doing the right thing.
	It's when there's risk involved and it's the right thing, that's when it becomes courageous.
	So, to your specific question, how do I encourage that in other people?
	It's tough.
	I'm not a quiet one.
	You're not a quiet one, but you have to be active.
	You have to be vocal.
	You have to be communicative.
	And the final thing I'll say is this: everyone should just have a list of courageous people in your life and just say, We need to help those people.
	You need to buy them breakfast once a month.
	I need to take them out.
	Whatever it takes, it's so lacking.
	And I believe courage is the solution to so many of our problems.
	So, thank you.
	Thank you.
	Hi, Charlie.
	My name is Alex.
	I meet regularly with the Turning Point chapter at UCCS.
	One thing I think we could greatly benefit to know is what's your take on how to deal with and stand up to all these other groups that want to spin narratives about us, harass us off campus, you know, try and limit our influence and just spin us to something we're not.
	How to kind of win that little culture war, I guess you could say.
	Yeah, it's a great question.
	I just want to first encourage you and elaborate for the audience to understand what this is rooted in.
	You want to talk about courage?
	Great segue from the last question.
	Our campus activists at Turning Point USA have courage.
	I'll tell you why.
	Every day, they make a public and conscious decision every day that I'm going to do what's right, even though I might get canceled, even though I might get a lower grade, even though I might lose friends.
	That's tough, and it's rare, increasingly rare.
	And so, I just want to just say the fact you're making that decision and you're doing that, you're going to be benefited by that for the rest of your life.
	Okay, let me just say that.
	So, but look, this is going to sound a lot easier than it actually is.
Campus Activism and Grace 00:07:53
	So, I'm going to give you a warning.
	You have to just get to a place where you don't care what they call you.
	It's a lot easier said than done.
	Let me just say that.
	But that's where I'm at.
	What are you going to write about me?
	Huh?
	All right, whatever.
	I know the people who support us and support Turning Point USA, and they far outnumber the opposition.
	They outnumber them in literal numbers and influence and energy and enthusiasm.
	And whatever they want to write, I know they live in a sea of lies and deceit.
	Now, they rarely ever say those things to my face because I happen to have a reputation of standing up for our activists and Turning Point USA and not putting up with nonsense and lies.
	So, that would be one thing.
	If they ever say it to your face, I have no tolerance for that, ever.
	Like, no, I'm not going to let you lie about me in front of me, actually.
	Like, you're gonna have to say it right in my eyes.
	I'm a what?
	I'm actually, what am I?
	The worst thing.
	Actually, you're a racist.
	And actually, you're actually, you're a bigoted racist.
	No, I'm not.
	Like, yeah, you actually want to judge people based on the color of their skin.
	I don't.
	You're the racist.
	You want black-only dormitories.
	Like, you want to judge, all of a sudden, they're like, oh, hold on, settle down, pal.
	No, I thought you were in the name-calling business.
	They have weaponized name-calling.
	They have.
	Name-calling is like one of the most powerful things in American society today.
	It's incredibly powerful.
	It's like, I'm going to call you a name.
	I control your entire life.
	So if there's one thing I'm trying to encourage the church is just be strong against the names they could call you.
	I know it sounds silly, but we live under the kind of regime of name-call.
	Like, you're a bad name.
	Okay, I'm so sorry.
	Where do I donate to make you think I'm not a racist?
	Keep fighting.
	We have your back.
	God bless you, man.
	Okay?
	Hello, Charlie.
	I'm here just in the last month from Canada.
	It's interesting living in a country without a First Amendment.
	I know, that's exactly right.
	I haven't eaten in a restaurant because I didn't take the jab since October because it's illegal up there.
	Anyway, I ask a question because we're a military town.
	There's a lot going on in Russia and Ukraine.
	What would you say is the worst of the two threats?
	That situation or the WEF?
	Well, look, first of all, what part of Canada are you from?
	Toronto area in Ontario.
	That's why you can't go to restaurants.
	So that would explain that.
	So yeah, look, what's a bigger threat?
	Let me just first talk about the Russian-Ukrainian thing.
	Look, this isn't a hard moral question.
	There is a harder question.
	I'll get to that in a second.
	Is that you don't invade a weaker, smaller country just because you want their land.
	Vladimir Putin's in the wrong.
	That's an easy moral question to answer, period.
	And there shouldn't be any mystery about that.
	So the question is, what do we do about it?
	And whether or not the Ukrainian government is pure as the driven snow, which they aren't.
	And that's a whole separate question of whether or not Zelensky should be trusted and all those other sorts of different things.
	And whether or not everything you're seeing in the news is exactly something that is totally transparent.
	Separate question, right?
	But who fired the missile first?
	Who's invading who?
	That's not a tough moral question.
	The United States should not get involved in this conflict.
	We should not send troops there.
	Period.
	End of story.
	I've said that all along.
	It's not our fight.
	We had a president that went to Europe and said three things.
	He said to U.S. troops, you're going to see it when you get there, talking about Ukraine.
	He said, we're going to respond with chemical weapons if Russia uses chemical weapons, reversing 100 years of precedent.
	And he said that we need regime change in Russia.
	All three of those things are incredibly irresponsible.
	He said all three of those things.
	You can look up the quotes yourself, all three, in a matter of 48 hours.
	Incredibly irresponsible and reckless.
	Thankfully, the White House has walked back.
	It's like the adults are like, wait a second, that's even too extreme for us.
	So what's a bigger threat to America?
	Yeah, I think a bigger threat to America is, of course, the World Economic Forum.
	It's not even a close question, obviously.
	And I'm not minimizing.
	And look, the victims of this whole thing are the people of Ukraine.
	I mean, when you have millions of refugees that have to leave their home, when you have the, it's so terrible.
	It's hard to watch.
	We shouldn't put up with it in any way.
	We shouldn't minimize it, I should say.
	However, you know, I just, I laugh at this and people say, Charlie, they're unrelated.
	Actually, they're directly related, okay?
	Because I saw the United States Congress march with a special spring in their step to go allocate $14 billion in funding with near like unanimous consent to go fund a foreign government while our own country is being invaded by the southern border and we can't get a dime to go fix it.
	So they're directly related, actually.
	Now, I would say that they were unrelated if we had everything perfectly funded and they were.
	We don't, okay?
	So, those are two different things.
	So, but look, from a foreign policy standpoint and the World Economic Forum, understand that part of the agenda, I believe, of the current kind of anti-American regime is they want to try to weaken the American military.
	And the way they're doing that, and they're, I mean, you see that with CRT, you see that with all these things, and they want to try to get the military in a place of compliance and submission, no matter what.
	I mean, the fact I've been very upset the last year on the vaccine mandate issue, like really upset.
	And I cannot believe, and every time I see a U.S. senator that didn't speak out about it, there's a couple that did.
	Ron Johnson do his great credit did.
	Mike Lee do his great credit did.
	And Rand Paul, who's been amazing on the vaccine issue, by the way, has been unbelievable.
	He really has to his great credit.
	None of our congressmen or senators have said poop if they had a mouthful on it.
	So we'll.
	Yeah, again, with those exceptions.
	But how on earth we tolerated having to push a vaccine forcibly on the military and just how everyone thought that this was just like fine and okay, especially you guys being in a military town.
	I can't believe it.
	I mean, we shouldn't put up with it.
	In fact, I know you in Colorado don't have many options when it comes to leaders in that regard, but so many people that I thought would have fought for that, it was just such a big letdown and disappointment.
	So, look, what is a bigger threat long-term, the World Economic Forum?
	I make no qualms about the moral situation, the moral implications happening in Russia and Ukraine.
	But I don't think it's the United States' role in any way, shape, or form to send troops, to get engaged, get involved.
	I think we just got out of an endless war in Afghanistan, how terrible that was, a humiliation.
	And let me just say one final thing on this before we get to the last question: which is some people say, Charlie, we got to go full speed into Ukraine.
	We got to this whole thing.
	I say, wait a second.
	Let's pretend that's the right thing, and Zelensky is Nelson Mandela or whatever.
	He's the greatest person.
	Okay.
	Let's just pretend, right?
	Let's just pretend.
	Whatever.
	Maybe he is, but I don't think he is.
	Okay, so let's pretend that that's the case.
	Do you trust Mark Milley to do anything meaningful?
	Do you trust Lloyd Austin?
	Of course not.
	We gave $85 billion of weapons to the Taliban.
	We closed Bagram Air Base while 13 Marines were killed by a suicide bomber in the reckless withdrawal of Afghanistan.
	And now, six months later, we're like beating the drums of war being like, hey, good idea.
	Let's get Mark Milley in charge of another theater of combat.
	Like, actually, no, all other balls and strikes aside of what's happening in Russia and Ukraine, we can all agree.
	We don't trust the current people running the United States military.
	We need to keep them far away from consequential theaters of war.
	Okay.
	This will be the last question.
	All right.
	My name is Joseph.
	And my school has a big LGBTQ population.
	And my little sister, she don't think she supports them, but she has decided to plant best friendships in front of some of them.
	And I don't know how to put up with it.
	Like, go about it.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
Love in All Things 00:05:51
	Yeah, look, I mean, love in all things, right?
	And so, first of all, we have to have grace and love, but we have, I think, a misconception of what love is in this country.
	I can get to the most cliche Christian sermon ever, but we have some first-time people that have them in a church here.
	I know that because you guys contacted me beforehand.
	There's four types of love.
	Well, there's more than that in the Greek.
	There's phileo, agape, eros, and storge, and they're all completely different, right?
	So agape is for God, so agape the world.
	So he gave his one only son a sacrificial love.
	Storge is a love between a spouse and a child.
	Eros would be love between a spouse, like the love I have with my wife.
	And phileo is a brotherly love, right?
	But in all love, we want to try to get people to live the best life that they could possibly live.
	And sometimes that requires the communication of information that people do not want to hear.
	Okay?
	Now, that does not mean you have to be harsh or cruel or mean, but let me tell you an example of someone who loved me that I did not think they were doing what I needed to hear in a specific period of time.
	So, I hate the dentist.
	I think they're like medieval witch doctors.
	Okay?
	I'm sure we have some dentists here.
	God bless you.
	You do good work, important part of society.
	I hope you don't harm anyone.
	Okay, I'm kidding.
	Not really.
	I hate it.
	Can't stand it.
	I'm sure a lot of you agree, right?
	I avoid them at all costs.
	So I had this throbbing in the back of my mouth in June and July.
	I conveniently ignored it, as any stubborn person would do.
	August, it got worse.
	I could barely open my jaw.
	I couldn't host radio.
	Finally, I found myself in a dentist's office, right?
	Not by my own choosing.
	So this amazing dentist, orthodontist, whole deal, in Scottsdale looked at me and within five minutes, she said, Charlie, I'm a big fan of Turning Point USA.
	Listen to your podcast every single day.
	I love your radio show.
	And I need to get you into surgery in the next 48 hours.
	Now, that was not what I wanted to hear.
	In fact, I thought, I argued, I debated.
	I was right.
	It was my truth, okay?
	I said, my truth is you're wrong, okay?
	I'm dictating what I want.
	She said, that's fine, but you have a bacterial infection that will go to your brain, and you won't have any truth to spread to anyone.
	And I love you, brotherly, sisterly love, too much to let you walk out of this office without giving you urgent antibiotics and getting you back in here for surgery immediately.
	And I didn't want to hear that.
	I had to cancel everything on my calendar.
	It was a disaster.
	But it was the loving and the right thing.
	And I'm still here today, and the wisdom teeth are gone.
	The whole thing was done.
	Now, why do I say that?
	Is that you should want to try to tell people the loving and truthful thing of how God wants them to live, right?
	God wants people to live in man and woman relationships, there in a monogamous way, to be able to flourish and to have children.
	It's an unpopular political thought crime to say in America today.
	However, that doesn't mean you have to be cruel.
	It doesn't mean you have to be mean, but you should, in a brotherly or sisterly way, try to, in every way, shape, or form, say, God has a better plan in store for you.
	God wants you to flourish in a way that you haven't even imagined or dreamed of yet.
	And in fact, I love you so much, I'm willing to tell you something that you might not want to hear.
	So that's how I would answer that question.
	Okay, so yes.
	Thank you very much for coming.
	Yeah.
	Just one other thing.
	We can be here till midnight.
	Yeah.
	Got to do another three hours of radio tomorrow and actually speaking at the University of Arkansas tomorrow and then University of Auburn University.
	So remember, April 12th, Boulder University.
	If you guys want to come up, if you have any kids or grandkids there or nieces or nephews, make sure they come by.
	Just two things that I want to leave you guys with tonight.
	The first is kind of just shamelessly promotional, but it helps me and it could help you.
	We do, as I mentioned, three podcasts a day, okay?
	Every single one of you have a smartphone.
	You have that digital pacifier in your right-hand corner.
	So while you might still be using that smartphone, it would really bless me if you guys would subscribe to our podcast.
	It's really simple.
	Every single smartphone has a podcast app.
	You just take it out, you open it up, you type in Charlie Kirk Show.
	You're able to subscribe by hitting the plus sign in the upper right-hand corner.
	I'm banned from Twitter.
	It really helps us stay ban-proof when grassroots people rise up, take out their phone, and subscribe in real time.
	You're like, Charlie, I didn't understand any of that.
	You got like a five-year-old, right, that can walk them through all of that.
	Absolutely.
	I'm sure.
	I saw a six-year-old around here somewhere that could do it.
	Charlie Kirk Show, I'd be really touched if you guys could just subscribe and help us out.
	It would be phenomenal.
	So thank you.
	The second thing is this, and the final thing, support TPUSA faith in any way you can.
	Get your kids and grandkids involved, but take ownership.
	Take ownership of your life.
	Take ownership in the fight for freedom and liberty.
	We are biblically commanded by the Lord to care about the nation we are in.
	Remember, I'm involved in the second most important thing.
	The most important thing is winning people for Jesus Christ.
	The second most important thing is to make sure you could do the first thing.
	And so if you don't focus on the second thing, we're all going to be sharing the gospel from prison.
	And that's not an over-exaggeration.
	Look at your grandkids and say, I want you to live in a free country.
	Fight for them every single day.
	Re-embrace the spirit of self-government.
	We live in the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
	It's up to us to reclaim it for liberty and righteousness.
	God bless you guys.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
	Email us your thoughts.
	It's always freedom at charliekirk.com.
	Thank you so much for listening.
	God bless.
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Chapters

00:00:00 Thinking and Doing Virtue
00:14:52 The Crisis of Courage
00:17:27 Cowardice in the Pews
00:25:23 Romans 13 and Tyranny
00:31:00 Threats to God's People
00:46:59 Shaking the Great Reset
01:00:20 Protecting Our Grandkids
01:08:27 Living Free of Tech
01:12:45 Fathers Forming a Line
01:16:27 The Fight for Youth
01:21:51 What Is True Courage
01:26:06 Campus Activism and Grace
01:33:59 Love in All Things