Ukrainian Nazis, SCOTUS on Pedophiles, and Hunter's Laptop from Hell with Miranda Devine
Fresh off the heels of being suspended from Twitter (for stating a biological fact), Charlie kicks things off by diving into another wonderful example of social media hypocrisy. After years of hearing that American MAGA supporter were literal Nazis, Facebook has reversed course on censoring actual Ukrainian Nazis, allowing promotion and celebration of the Azov Battalion and other militant white nationalist groups so long as they fight Russians. Next up, Charlie plays the tape back on the Senate confirmation hearing of Ketanji Brown Jackson, focusing in on her bizarre struggles to answer very basic questions on her history of lenient sentencing of pedophiles and child pornography traffickers. Finally, Charlie welcomes Miranda Devine, "New York Post" columnist and author of "The Laptop from Hell" who has been doing yeoman's work exposing the hidden crimes, the perverse business dealings, and the depraved lifestyle of Joe Biden's pride and joy, Hunter. Charlie and Miranda explore the latest on this story including rumors that Hunter may soon be indicted. Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Funding Nazis in Ukraine00:10:45
Hey, everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, we go through the laptop from hell.
And also, why are we so quiet on the Ukrainian Nazi situation?
And finally, can any country have a 1776 moment at any time?
A unique question.
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I don't have enough time to get into it as much as I'd like, but we talk about it just a little bit.
And I'd love your thoughts.
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We have the amazing Miranda Devine.
I've been dealing with all these names.
Someone came in, they said, Charlie, you have Rachel Levine coming on the program.
I said, What are you talking about?
You mean Miranda?
Like, what?
I don't know.
Someone had their wires crossed here.
So, no, we have Miranda Devine, who is the author of the laptop from hell.
Can't wait to go through that.
With her, there's rumblings that Hunter Biden is going to be indicted soon.
I definitely want to ask about that, but I want to get into some more sound here, just kind of about things that are happening generally in the country and the world.
So, I'm really fascinated by this particular story, and I don't think it is worthy of just kind of glossing over.
So, I want you to imagine if America had a KKK battalion within our own military.
I want you to imagine if we were supporting groups that were Nazis.
Well, we are, actually.
It's amazing.
It's just shocking to me how the left-wing regime media has spent years smearing all of us as Nazis.
Anyone who dares show up at school board meetings as Nazis, and then they fund actual real-life Nazis in Ukraine.
And this is not like a slur or an exaggeration.
There's a video right here that we see in front of us where there is literally a guy wearing a Nazi symbol in full tattoos with fully automatic machine guns saying in Ukrainian, like, we're going to go kill the Russians.
And so, the argument then goes, Well, Charlie, we have to back somebody because Vladimir Putin is evil.
I agree.
Vladimir Putin is evil.
Well, then, under that logic, why didn't we back ISIS to go fight Bashar al-Assad?
What if both sides could be really bad?
Now, this is the backbone of some of the Ukrainian resistance in Maripol, which is the southeastern corner of Ukraine.
The southeastern corner of Ukraine is right within this kind of Russian separatist area.
It's where a lot of the fighting is happening.
It's an area that Russia really, really wants.
It's a port city.
So a question that I think is necessary for us is: why does the American regime or the people that run our government, why are they all of a sudden so comfortable with associating with Nazis?
Now, I'm not calling Zelensky a Nazi.
He's a grandchild of Holocaust survivors.
Obviously not.
Zelensky's Jewish.
But Zelensky is partnering in some capacity with outright neo-Nazis on the mainland of Ukraine.
This is unavoidable.
This is factual.
And so Facebook allows praise of neo-Nazi Ukrainian battalions if it fights for the Russian invasion.
This is from theintercept.com.
Actually, my server doesn't even allow me to go to theintercept.com.
So it says the reversal raises questions about Facebook blacklist-based content moderation, which critics say lacks nuance and context.
It says here, quote, Facebook will temporarily allow its billions of users to praise the Azov Battalion, a Ukrainian neo-Nazi military unit previously banned for being freely discussed under the company's dangerous individuals and organizations policy.
Just to give you an idea, the Azov battalion makes the people that went to Charlottesville, which was obviously bigoted and hateful, the people that were involved in the racial part of Charlottesville, even though there were a lot of people there that were there for the statue and Trump was right in the way he described it.
It was a lot more nuanced than that, but it makes it look like child's play.
Look, I'm not one to kind of be like alarmist about this stuff.
I think that these terms are used way too generously and loosely.
That person's a Nazi.
That's enough.
Okay, back off.
It's insane.
This is actually the chance to use it.
So the media will happily call almost everyone neo-Nazi sympathizers except actual neo-Nazi sympathizers.
And I think we have actually built pretty, let's say, considerable credibility here because we're not the ones calling everybody Nazis all the time.
We're very careful to use that because I think that the atrocities of the Holocaust, the millions of people, some estimates show over 10 million people intentionally slaughtered in the Holocaust.
That's not something to use around, but throw around like a frisbee like MSNBC and CNN does.
Yeah, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi.
Throw them around like everyone gets a pizza, like you're giving out cars at an Oprah Winfrey viewing.
No, it's actually something you should be very careful because when everything becomes something, nothing becomes something.
It is the dilution of the description of bigotry.
The same way that we have inflated our dollars is the same way the media has been covering Nazism in America the last 10 years.
If all of a sudden Donald Trump becomes a Nazi and his supporters all become not, well, then it's like, okay, well, then we can't even talk about it.
Everyone is.
But then what happens when American taxpayer dollars are funding the Azov battalion?
It says, quote, though it has in recent years downplayed its neo-Nazi sympathies, the group's affinities are not subtle.
The intercept rights.
Azov soldiers march and train wearing uniforms bearing icons of the Third Reich.
Its leadership has reportedly courted American alt-right and neo-Nazi elements.
And in 2010, the battalion's first commander and former Ukrainian parliamentarian, Andrei Bletsky, stated that Ukraine's national purpose was to, quote, lead the white races of the world in a final crusade against Semite-led Untermenschin.
Now, let me just take a pause here.
That phrase untermenschen is a Nietzschean phrase.
Friedrich Nietzsche wrote Beyond Good and Evil.
He was a theorist about how he also famously said God is dead.
He didn't say that actually positively.
He was mourning that God was dead in the West.
Nietzsche predicted where the West was going and highly and heavily influenced the rise of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.
But there was a phrase that he came up with called the Übermensch, which is the Superman.
That's where we get the American Superman series from of the perfect man.
And this is the Germans took this, of course, in a very evil way where they said, okay, we are the master race.
We are the Übermensches.
And then they had an inverse who are the Untermensches, the subhumans.
This Übermensch, Untermensch type philosophy that came from Friedrich Nietzsche and was, of course, then used by the entire National Socialist Workers' Party of Germany is now being repeated by people our taxpayer dollars are funding in Ukraine.
And I don't want to hear the emails from people at freedom at charliekirk.com.
Well, Charlie, Putin is bad too.
I know Putin is satanically inspired and is evil and is all these things.
I'm not talking about Putin right now.
I'm talking about why we are funding Nazis in Ukraine.
Now, some people use the minimalist argument.
Some people say it's only 3,000 people.
It's 5,000 people.
That's a lot of Nazis.
Now, there's another argument where people say, well, sometimes you have to ally or ally with bad people.
You have to ally with Stalin like Churchill did and America did to defeat the Nazis.
Fine.
Then be honest, though.
Don't say that Ukraine is a beacon of democracy and the land of the free.
If I have to hear one more person say, what's happening in Ukraine feels a lot like 1776.
I saw Ben Sass say this yesterday on Tucker and it's so ridiculous.
Like what reminds me of happening in Ukraine is very similar to the spirit of 1776.
Like I must have missed Washington, Hamilton, John Jay, John Hancock, and Paul Revere having Nazi-like sympathies writing about it.
No, actually, they had sympathies that were anti-those things.
Human equality, liberty, virtue, goodness, beauty.
That's what the American Revolution was about.
Maybe part of this conflict in Russia and Ukraine is not as clear as the fight for human rights as they're saying it is.
Be very careful who you ally yourself with.
And American congressmen, they need an answer for that.
I'm just wondering, why are we funding these organizations in Ukraine?
Why are we acting like this is okay?
Where are the, by the way, where are the Jewish advocacy groups on this?
Like, where's ADL?
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Dealing with a lot on this Twitter suspension thing.
It really seems to have hit a nerve because we did nothing wrong.
It's one of those things when people obviously violate the rules.
I don't like the rules.
I think they're stupid and totalitarian.
But this one doesn't.
And that's what's so incredible.
I want to get to a little bit of Katanji Brown Jackson here as Katanji is in front of the United States Senate right now for potential confirmation.
Okay, let's go to Cut 41.
Senator Hirono, who wants to build highways from Los Angeles to Honolulu and also wants the Green New Deal to be ushered in and has told men to sit down and shut up, has pushed back against this idea that Katanji is the affirmative action pick, which of course she is.
Play Cut 41.
And they have implied you were solely nominated due to your race and not for other factors.
Your nomination is not about filling a quota.
It is about time.
It's about time that we have a highly qualified, highly accomplished black woman on the Supreme Court.
It's about time our highest court better reflects the country it serves.
Yeah, it's not about affirmative action, but it actually is about the affirmative action because it's time that we have affirmative action.
It's exactly what I expect from Senator Hirono.
And by the way, no one's implying that Katanji was selected because of her race.
We are very transparently saying it because Joe Biden said it.
No one said, Joe Biden did not run for president saying that we are going to have people come.
I'm not going to select people on the Supreme Court that are wise or that are steeped in constitutional experience.
No, he said all along it's going to be a black female.
Again, melanin content and chromosomes matter a lot.
Again, what is a female anymore?
I don't know.
Now, this will be a very interesting backbreaker of the political correct regime.
Is race something you can change?
Now, we saw that with Rachel Dolizel, the former head of the, I want to say NAACP in Spokane, where it was the white woman who pretended to be a black person, who identified as a black person.
That'll be really interesting when people start to try to change their race on it.
So here's the real question, everybody.
Can Leah Thomas, formerly William Thomas, become a black woman?
Is that allowed?
Are you allowed to change your race just like you changed your gender?
You think I'm kidding?
I'm just, I'm asking for the rules because they're constantly changing.
By the way, a mark of a totalitarian chapter of human history is when you cannot know the rules from one day to the other.
If the rules are always changing, then the people making the rules have all the power.
Alexander Solshenitsyn famously said, we know they are lying.
They know they are lying.
They know we know they are lying.
We know, they know, we know they are lying, but they're still lying.
Alexandra Solshenitsyn.
Put that up on Instagram if they don't put that down, Connor, in the next day or two.
Let's get to some more sound here of Katanji Jackson.
What's her opinion on court packing?
Play cut 35.
Do you agree with Justice Breyer and Justice Ginberg that court packing is a bad idea?
Well, respectfully, Senator, other nominees to the Supreme Court have responded as I will, which is that it is a policy question for Congress.
And I am particularly mindful of not speaking to policy issues because I am so committed to staying in my lane.
Yeah, what is your lane exactly?
I guess your lane is making sure that pedophiles don't go to prison.
Now, let me just say this.
There's a chance this entire deal gets derailed.
I don't know who in the Joe Biden kind of selection committee raised their hand and say, hey, let's go for the judge that was really soft on pedophiles and has a soft spot for terrorists.
Perfect.
That'll help us with suburban women in Scottsdale.
Play Cut 33, where Katanji Brown Jackson says sentencing guidelines for child pornography offenders are leading to extreme disparities in the system.
Play Cut 33.
But the way that the guideline is now structured, based on that set of circumstances, is leading to extreme disparities in the system because it's so easy for people to get volumes of this kind of material now by computers.
New York Times Coverage00:14:55
Yeah, that sounds like justifying the crime to me.
This could get derailed.
I don't know, Mark Kelly and Raphael Warnock.
You guys are going to have some pretty tough Senate races.
I don't know if you're going to want to go back to the voters and say, hey, I just put someone on the U.S. Supreme Court that's life's work was about trying to be lenient to pedophiles and gitmoterrorists.
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With us right now is a phenomenal patriot.
She's super smart and is shaking the matrix.
There's a lot happening.
I think it's because of her reporting and because of her book that we're starting to see some rumblings from our federal law enforcement agencies in the direction of Hunter Biden.
With us is Miranda Devine, author of the plainly titled but accurately titled book, The Laptop from Hell.
Miranda, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Thanks so much, Charlie.
Great to be with you.
So tell us, the book is out.
I've heard some amazing things about it.
And so tell us what the reaction has been.
Well, look, it's been a bestseller.
It's sold a lot of copies to people on our side of the fence.
But really, there was this wall between conservatives and people who are, you know, perhaps Trump voters who didn't vote for Joe Biden and the people who read the New York Times and watch CNN and MSNBC and just were kept in the dark by their favored organs before the election.
And until 17 months later, last week, the New York Times broke that wall just a little, just a little chink by admitting that, yes, the laptop from hell, Hunter Biden's abandoned laptop, is real and they had authenticated emails on it.
I mean, we did that 17 months ago, you know, basically at the New York Post.
That was your previous guest, Emma Joe Morris, my friend, my colleague.
She did a brilliant job of doing the due diligence that was necessary.
And we also had Tony Bobolinski, who you didn't need the laptop.
You could just talk to Tony Bobolinski, who was a very credible businessman who got caught up in the Hunter Biden mess and a patriot, a naval veteran.
He offered himself to the media.
He gave a press conference before the election, after the New York Post story first came out.
And no one was interested.
They just dismissed him.
They ignored him.
We didn't.
We published the material that he gave us, which was, you know, it corroborated what was on the laptop and it augmented it.
And then there was the Chuck Grasley and Ron Johnson inquiry, which already, about a month before we published our stories, had already started laying down the paper trail, the documents that showed all this millions of dollars.
It ended up being tens of millions of dollars coming out of Chinese and Russian and Ukrainian shady coffers into the bank accounts in America of Joe Biden's family members and their business partners.
Yeah, I mean, Peter Schweitzer said, if you look at the three big flashpoints in American foreign policy, Ukraine, Russia, and China, the Biden family has received millions of dollars from every single one of them.
And the laptop really talked about that in so many words.
I want to play a piece of tape here: a former CIA officer Mike Baker, who slams the laptop from hell cover-up.
Very interesting piece of tape here.
I'd love your reaction.
Play cut three.
I love this topic in a sense, not so much because of whatever the Hunter was up to, but in part because now when you look at the liberals, Dems and the progressives, it doesn't matter to them.
If you read some of the narrative that is out there now, the social media in the past day or so, ever since the New York Times came out with this, they're just dismissive of it.
And they don't care or they're willing to overlook it, which is the same thing they accuse the right of doing.
Now, before Miranda, I ask you to react.
The one thing this entire story has taught me, and it's been an unfortunate revelation, is the New York Times actually still does have credibility in a lot of people's eyes.
It's that as soon as the New York Times says it, now all of a sudden it's allowed to kind of go through mainstream circuitry.
What's your reaction?
You're so right.
I mean, it's quite irritating to be asked, do you feel vindicated?
No, I don't need the New York Times.
Exactly.
That's exactly right.
To agree that what we did was right to be vindicated.
It's ridiculous.
But unfortunately, you know, the New York Times sets the agenda for a lot of the media.
I remember Project Veritas had this great leaked conversation that Jeff Zucker and his news executives, the day of our story back in October of 2020.
And he said, I'm not, I don't want you following this story.
It's not credible.
It's old.
You know, we've been there, done that.
This has been debunked.
I mean, this was fresh information and it went to the credibility and the integrity of one of the two candidates for president.
And it's the media's role, their job, to do the due diligence on behalf of the American voter.
And I have some very interesting polling that I've seen that is still in progress.
There'll be more polling done overnight.
But eventually this week, I will be reporting on it, showing that really increasingly more and more Americans are awake to the laptop story.
They didn't know before the election, but this past year, these past few months, and especially now with the New York Times illuminating their readers to there is actually a story in this, more and more voters are aware of it.
And they also have a very dim view of Joe Biden and his integrity.
So there are rumblings now that Hunter Biden might be indicted, that his former lover or wife or whatever, someone that came out that said that.
It seems that he's being investigated, we know, for the tax issues and potential foreign registration issues.
Do you think this might just be kind of bluster?
Do you think he's an untouchable figure?
Or do you believe based on what you've seen and reported on from the laptop, the evidence is so overwhelming that any U.S. attorney that wants to be able to look at his prosecutors in the eye has to move on this evidence?
Yeah, the latter.
I mean, the evidence is overwhelming.
And apparently the U.S. attorney David Weiss in Delaware has been investigating Hunter Biden on tax evasion, money laundering.
And as you say, the FARA registration, FARA violations.
And since at least 2018, the New York Times tells us it predates that.
But we know for sure since 2018, we know that there were subpoenas sent out to one of Hunter's banks looking for his statements also of his uncle Jim and two of his partners, Eric Schwerin and Devon Archer.
And particularly, they asked for anything to do with the Bank of China.
So we also know that there have been several people trooping down to Delaware to testify before a grand jury there.
And one of those was, you just mentioned London Roberts, who was the former stripper who was the father of, or is the father of Hunter Biden's unacknowledged fifth child.
And that is a little four-year-old girl.
And London Roberts had to sue Hunter basically for paternity to prove that it was his child.
She's from Arkansas.
She trooped down there.
And so did another former girlfriend of his.
And various other people, we understand, have also been testifying.
And London Roberts' lawyer is the one who said that he is convinced that Hunter Biden will be indicted.
He handed over a trove of financial documents that he had.
So, you know, if he is indicted, this is what that New York Times story was all about.
It was about rehearsing Hunter Biden's defense, you know, saying he's already paid a million dollars in tax.
That should let him off.
You know, when it comes to the Farah violations, well, if he should be able to retrospectively register as a foreign agent.
Yeah, if only Paul Manafort was given that kind of opportunity, right?
Which was the crux of his entire indictment, right?
Which is you were doing oligarch representation and we're going to get you because you have a bunch of mink coats so you didn't register or whatever.
Yeah, he went to jail for that.
Yes, he did.
Tom Barrick, who was another Trump world person.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, exactly.
And he's also been caught up because of Farah.
This was a little used law until Trump came along and they were used before Trump.
You're right.
That's right.
And I don't know if anyone ever went to jail before Manafort.
No, that was like a Cuban group of people they got or something, but like no one.
It was a Nazi era law.
And you're right.
That's exactly right.
But it's like, you know, how they used to get the mob.
I mean, they just get them for tax or whatever.
It's just an excuse.
And it was an excuse to go after Trump and his people.
And so it's a great irony now, isn't it, that Hunter Biden's been caught up in this?
So I'm going to ask you to speculate on something, which I know you're a journalist, so you have to be careful the way you do this.
But do you see a pattern or do you see evidence that there might be a deliberate campaign to kind of get rid of Joe?
That it's that he served his purpose.
We implemented him, that he's no longer really useful.
Do you see some of that?
Because the children of the elite are usually untouchable regardless of the crime, right?
Usually there's a way to cover this up.
Now, maybe the laptop exposed that to such an extent, but do you think that Joe Biden is more of a liability than a benefit right now to the aims and the ambitions of the entire machine?
Look, I wouldn't go that far.
I mean, obviously, once he won the election, he ceased to be really important to them.
He is disposable once he becomes too much of a liability.
That's always been the case.
So I think that they'll just let this play out.
The fact is that you can't intervene.
He's the president.
He's powerful, but he can't really intervene in an investigation by an independent, you know, U.S. attorney who's been doing this for four years.
So they'll just let it play out.
And I'm sure that every concession that can be made will be made, as happened in the case with Devin Archer, one of Hunter's business partners.
It always happens with these people.
If you're connected, you are going to have every generous concession that the legal system can provide you.
And he will have the best lawyers that money can buy.
So we'll see, you know, whether criminal charges are, whether these are turned into civil charges, you know, if charges are brought at all.
But ultimately, as Hunter himself said with great relief in his memoir, Beautiful Things, his father is president and he has pardon power.
So I think what they'll try and do, what Joe will try and do with his people, will be to just extend the legal process as long as possible into his term, as they have done with Devon Archer.
Just keep kicking the can down the road so that he can finally pardon people like his son and his former partners that he needs to at the very end of his presidency.
And he will get away with that because you know the way the media is and they always, he always presses on this empathy, this grief issue, because he has had terrible tragedies in his life.
He'll mention Bill Biden and it will be the end of that.
So yeah.
Exactly.
And that's always useful.
He's used that in his entire career.
I don't think he would be president today if he hadn't been able to use those tragedies.
I'm not saying they weren't tragedies and that he doesn't deserve sympathy, but not to the extent where it excuses corruption and real bad behavior that now has an impact on America's national security.
Laptop from Hell.
Thank you so much for being with us.
Everyone, go pick up a copy right now.
Laptop from Hell with Miranda Devine.
Thank you so much for joining us.
We really appreciate it.
Thanks so much, Channel.
Thank you.
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So Senator Ben Sasse was on a news channel talking about the Ukraine-Russian situation.
I have a lot of respect for Ben Sasse, even though I think he's been really unfairly nasty to Donald Trump, and that kind of fractured our relationship.
Used to speak at turning point USA events and just don't see things.
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I think he's a smart person, but I think he's totally wrong about this Ukrainian situation.
We're going to walk through exactly why.
So there is a belief system that American values and what happened in 1776 can be teleported, can be outsourced to any place on the planet at any time.
Now, that is a tempting thing to believe, and that is at the root of neoliberalism.
At the root of neoliberalism is a belief that, okay, 1776 was about all people being equal.
Therefore, all nations at any time can embrace these values.
Now, the Declaration says that.
It says when in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands that have tied them to the other, deriving the powers, the separate but equal stations of powers of the laws of nature and nature is God.
So that is a universal declaration.
However, we now know, and the founders knew too, not every country is prepared or ready for a free society, self-government, and individual liberty.
Not every country has the ground that is fertile for a self-government structure.
So let's play Ben Sasse, and then we'll build this out a little bit further.
He was on Fox News Sunday, play cut 52.
Government doesn't give us our rights.
Raw rights come to us from God, and government is just a shared tool to secure them.
And you see that spirit, that American Philadelphia 1787 spirit in Zelensky right now.
Okay, so he's right.
Government does not give us our rights.
That's right.
They come to us from God.
So I don't know what spirit he thinks he's seeing, that 1787 spirit.
So he's not even going to 1776.
He's going to the Constitutional Convention, which was the all-summer-long convention chaired by George Washington, who said very little of the heated debate.
They sent Jefferson to France because they knew he'd mess it all up, of the heated debates to get, and that's a joke, of course.
Jefferson just happened to be a very strong believer in small government and awfully passionate about this stuff.
The point is that, so Sas is saying, I'm seeing the same sort of passion in Zelensky.
I'm sorry, Zelensky just banned 11 political parties in Ukraine.
Zelensky is partnering with Nazis in southeastern Ukraine.
What exactly does that remind you of when it comes to the spirit of 1787 and the American founding?
Just because people are saying they want freedom does not mean they actually are truly willing to embrace it, and they even know what that means.
An example of this, of course, is Liberia.
We've talked about Liberia before.
Liberia literally was supposed to be the land of liberty.
It was founded by former black slaves from the United States and the Caribbean.
The flag of Liberia is almost identical to the flag of America.
In fact, the Constitution of Liberia was modeled after the Constitution of the United States.
Why is it that if Liberia founded in 1847 has not been known as the land of liberty and freedom, why is it that the country that is between Cote d'Ivoire, Guinea, and Sierra Leone, why is that not mentioned as one of the freest countries in the world?
The reason is because Liberia did not go through the multiple hundreds of years, the prerequisites, the building of the foundational base that eventually landed on that one decade that changed all of humanity in 1776 to 1791, from the Declaration to the final ratification of Bill of Rights.
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What was that couple hundred years?
It was the tough work of the reflection on the human being, the tough work of spreading biblical values across all 13 colonies, the tough work of 13 self-government experiments of learning how to actually get this done when finally the moment came forward where they were ready for self-government.
You can't just parachute in with a copy of the Constitution to Ukraine, which knows nothing but oligarchic rule and corruption and top-down secular government.
Say, hey, you want freedom?
We just got to put the Constitution in place.
Like, whoa, they haven't done the 200 years that we believe is actually necessary for that sort of a free society to flourish and to grow.
And it doesn't have to be 200 years.
It can be 20 years.
The point is that none of the foundation has been laid here.
In fact, when we think we can impose that, it actually goes worse and you get a dictator that then takes over.
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