Charlie is joined by Producer Andrew for a deep dive into the elites' sick obsession with America's "energy transformation" away from fossil fuels even as the geopolitical realities make increased domestic production the obvious solution. Charlie and Andrew explain why Mayor Pete and Energy Secretary Granholm, among many others in the regime, refuse to unleash the American energy sector to save lives and rebalance the geopolitical landscape, bowing instead to the globalist climate cult. Charlie and Andrew then explore the media's false-binary narrative of Ukraine vs. Russia as white hat vs. black hat. Meanwhile, a major story is unfolding in Iran (that also includes Russia) that no one is talking about that could have major implications on the world's energy markets while further fueling another geopolitical disaster just over the horizon. Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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We're here with producer Andrew, who's going to help us co-pilot this hour in full transparency.
It's because I did a two-hour event with Jack Kibbs and I spoke for three hours before that with people.
So we're in a little bit of fumes today, but that's okay.
That's part of the job when you do seven hours of talk in one day and you got to do three hours of radio the next day.
And I have a debate tonight and I have another interview.
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Yeah.
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We're doing very well on the podcast for people on the live stream and people on Rumble, they can subscribe.
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Energy Independence and Influence00:06:27
Where do you want to start?
Because there's Russia, Ukraine, there's energy.
There's the hangover COVID stuff.
Yeah.
I want to talk about energy.
Okay, let's go.
The reason I want to talk about energy is there's still, you know, Charlie's done a great job of hammering away at it this week.
I would say, you know, we were quicker to it than, and I think now that the sort of talking heads on the news are even getting to it.
But what's interesting is that we're not seeing the administration move on it yet.
And actually, as a matter of fact, we're seeing them dig their heels in on some really, really scary things.
So, there is a specific clip from Mayor Pete Butige.
I think it's clip 89.
We should play that again.
I think it's really important.
Yeah, let's play that clip.
We're basically, you know, he's talking about the difference between we have a temporary problem with Russia, what he's calling a temporary problem.
Not to mention that we've been basically in the Cold War, yeah, it took a hiatus after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Union.
But it was still there, it's been simmering under the surface for a long time.
Putin certainly hasn't forgotten.
This is not a temporary war, it's a very permanent situation.
So, let's play cut 89 and we can unpack that from there.
Could the president possibly consider authorizing the Keystone pipeline, working something out with Iran?
I mean, look, the president has said that all options are on the table, but we also need to make sure that we're not galloping after permanent solutions to immediate short-term problems where more strategic and tactical actions in the short term can make a difference.
I mean, you have to be educated at the top levels of American society to say so much with big words while saying nothing.
Yeah, I think that's a really good insight, actually.
It's just a strategic and precise intercontinental.
I mean, what even is that?
But to your point, though, I mean, this is another example of how the elites have completely failed us.
Yes.
And Pete Buttigeg is potentially the most obnoxious example of American elitism that there is on the national level.
He's such a technocrat.
Yeah, he is.
And for him to say a permanent solution, why don't you just stop right there?
What is wrong with having a permanent solution to a permanent problem, by the way?
That, you know, A, we produce more energy, we make more money.
Yes.
B, prices of oil go down all around the world.
A commodities trader like Russia gets less money.
We have more price stability.
You made this point earlier in the week, and I think it still is the most important point that we can continue to bang the drum on.
And that is, in order to have a thriving middle class, you must have cheap, abundant energy and oil.
And by the way, oil is the main thing that gets traded in U.S. dollars, which keeps the United States dollar as the world reserve currency.
So that all hinges on this.
But, you know, we don't do a good job of educating our population or our citizenry of just the need for energy.
So at the most basic thing is if you don't eat, you die.
Food is a form of energy.
You actually look at it just from biology.
Yeah, exactly.
So you need calories to be able to fuel your system to continue to survive.
Okay, well, then be able to move from one place to the other.
You could walk everywhere or you could try to find more efficient ways to do that or to power your homes.
And only us in the West, because we become so desensitized to how abundant energy is, do we start to go on these ridiculous crusades of trying to sunset oil and natural gas, LNG, and trying to bring in this idea of solar panels on every car or wind farms everywhere?
And not only is it unrealistic, it's really bad for us geopolitically.
So the U.S. Energy Information Administration estimated in 2016 that there were about 2,462 trillion cubic feet of technically recoverable resources of dry natural gas.
Now, what's so interesting about this, though, is that you look at new studies, is that it shows that there's over 3 trillion.
Now, how's that possible?
It's because we keep on discovering that we have more natural gas.
That's what's amazing.
I mean, they were predicting peak oil in the 90s.
That's right.
And then the shale revolution and the fracking revolution completely twisted.
The fracking revolution, we should do a whole show explaining hydraulic fracking, how it works, how you're able to explore these assets.
It's incredible.
And so we are the world's leader in LNG.
But if you just look at oil in general, we have enough oil to fuel the entire world for decades.
Just us.
We have enough oil to be able to do that.
People don't understand.
President Trump said this on the show this week.
He said, We have enough oil and we were on pace to produce enough oil that we would be double the size, double the size of the Saudis and the Russians, just America alone, double the size, which is a tremendous thing to say.
And by the way, they keep finding more and more ways to extract more and more oil.
And the other part of this that I think is so important, I think we should play one of these other clips if we have time, Charlie.
But is our emissions went down?
That's right.
We were the only major power in the world where this was true.
It might even be the only major power in the West where this was true.
It went down like 10%.
Our emissions went down because we were using natural gas.
And yet you see in these.
More environmentally friendly.
Yeah, more environmentally friendly.
And you see these states like California.
There's a now new buildings in California are not able to use natural gas.
They banned it from new buildings.
That's right.
New York City, the same.
I mean, so you see this climate cult is in full effect all across the country, and they happen to be running the White House right now.
So I think this would be a really interesting clip to play.
Actually, we're talking about being in an energy transformation.
This, again, Pete Buttigieg, clip 72.
Drill more, open up more U.S. land to drilling.
What's the administration's response to that idea?
Well, look, the president has laid out and taken a number of steps, including addressing the strategic petroleum reserve.
Let's also be clear that we are in the middle of a long-term transformation that is already fast underway, especially when it comes to vehicles.
And yet they're okay with buying more oil from Iran, but not extracting more oil from Alaska.
Yeah, that's right.
He made that statement, I believe, this morning, where he basically said, yeah, nothing's off the table because I guess that would be another short-term solution.
Meanwhile, the Biden administration, and this has been very much underreported, the Biden administration is rushing to get the Iran nuclear deal.
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It was brokered by Russia.
We should talk about it.
We haven't talked about the Iran nuclear deal in a while.
They're rushing for it right now.
About a year and a half ago, we did a lot on Iran.
We dove into it, kind of the origins of the Iranian revolution and the Shah and the Sagday and all that.
It's important that people realize what you're dealing with when you're dealing with Iran.
Iran is going to be part of this new axis that is being created.
And Russia is now willingly kind of finding their new partners with Iran and China.
And they think that they are going to be able to kind of create the world in their image.
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We had 6,000 people last night at Calvary Trader.
Yeah, if you haven't checked that event out, you definitely should.
It's going to be great.
I mean, what is it at?
It's already probably like 100,000.
100,000 on YouTube.
It's going to keep 100,000 views on YouTube.
Yeah, with Pastor Jack Hibbs.
That thing will probably do a million before it's for sure.
It was a massive event.
And if you haven't, I think you said this earlier, Charlie, but it begs repeating.
Pastor Jack Hibbs Church in Chino Hills, outside of Los Angeles, is a phenomenal place.
It's one of the best.
Yeah, that is.
He does such a beautiful job.
He really does.
Activated audience to talking, speaking of which.
That's right.
Someone just sent us an email.
They said, Alaskans say, quote, please lift the sanctions on us.
We can help fix the energy problem.
So we're sanctioning our own energy exploration.
Yeah.
More so than even our adversaries.
But yet we're open to buying more oil from the Ayatollah.
That's correct.
Read that story.
Well, the story is basically that it wasn't really much of a story.
It was, it was Budajej saying that, yeah, we're open to, you know, that is on the table, I think, was the direct quote, right?
And time and time again, the administration is talking about this, right?
So we've got Granholm, energy secretary.
I think that's a cut worth playing 96.
Let's go ahead and play that cut.
But the bottom line is that this president and this administration are looking at every single tool to shield American families from the impact of rising energy prices.
And we're working through an energy transition.
And we've got to start by adding energy.
And the reality is we have to take some time to get off of oil and gas.
We recognize this.
This is a transition.
It's a transition.
They keep on re-emphasizing that.
And that kind of plays into the Great Reset goals.
Remember, the eight goals of the Great Reset, what we talked about yesterday with Jack Hibbs, we're going to post that whole episode.
But one of them is carbon emissions will be no more.
Fossil fuels will be done.
This is part one of the goals of the Great Reset.
Yeah, absolutely.
And they, you know, and it, again, the failure of the elites, I think Secretary Grandholm is another shining example.
I mean, just two more mediocre people have you ever seen between Budajej and Granholm.
And these are the people in charge of our energy policy.
And yet, what they are doing, to your larger point, is that they are all singing from the same song sheet that they know is pre-approved from Davos, the World Economic Forum.
This is what, if you are an elite, if you are in polite society, or if you are allowed to go on CNN and MSNBC, you have to be saying, hey, we know there's a temporary problem with Russia starting a war in Eastern Europe, but listen, we want to stay committed to our long-term climate goals.
This is one of the central pieties you're not allowed to violate, right?
Friedrich Nietzsche said that every society has a couple pieties you're not allowed to violate.
One of them you're not allowed to violate is you are not allowed to question green energy.
You're just not.
The same way you're not allowed to question CRT or question that men can become pregnant.
It's the same sort of thing.
It's a religious fervor.
It's like if you go to, and you know this, you lived in Hollywood for a while, you go to like a cocktail party or whatever of upper middle class people and you start to kind of go on about the benefits of LNG and the Keystone Pipeline, they will treat you the same way as if all of a sudden you said like CRT is garbage.
Yeah, no, it's the same sort of intensity.
Totally.
And you'll become that guy or that guy.
That guy's a fracking apologist.
They'll talk behind your back and eventually you won't get invited back to parties.
You're a white supremacist.
We're talking about energy.
I'll never forget, actually, on this note, when Rush Limbaugh came to a turning point USA event, he comes up to the stage.
He's about to introduce President Trump.
And we're in Palm Beach, Student Action Summit.
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He comes up.
It's in December.
I know that.
I can't remember.
It was 2019.
I think it must have been 2019.
He comes up on the stage.
And the first thing he does is he gets to the podium and he looks out at everybody.
And he's so excited to see all these young faces in the crowd.
And he goes, he goes, everybody.
He said, climate change or global warming or climate change is a myth.
And then the crowd erupts.
And he's like, I've been wanting to say that for so long.
It was the first thing.
That was one of his last speeches he ever gave was at a Turning Point USA event.
Yeah.
And it was interesting because I rode with Rush in the car to that event.
We picked him up at his studio.
So I had a chance to spend some time with Rush in the car, and I got to know him pretty well even before that.
But obviously, and all he wanted to talk about was climate change.
He's like, you don't understand?
This is civilization-ending stuff.
This is their new thing.
And if you listen to the Limbaugh commentary towards the end of his life, the end of his shows, it was this repetition, this fascination with how the left wanted to use climate change as a way to restructure society.
You got to think, man, the guy who's in the radio business for 30 years with that kind of combined wisdom, he really saw this coming.
He did.
And he mocked them intentionally to try and warn the base and warn decent people about it.
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We have a tendency to do that.
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Tomorrow, I'm going to Pastor Juergens Church in California.
Next week, I am going to Naples, Florida, speaking at the Florida Citizens Alliance, and then we'll be at NRB next week, National Radio Broadcasting Society.
In Nashville, which is going to be great for a couple of days.
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And then we're hitting the road.
This is still to be finalized, but I'm going to just kind of give a little bit of a teaser of some of the campus and church stops we're doing.
Looks like we're going to Colorado Springs to Fervent Church.
We will be going to the University of Arkansas, Auburn University, Grace Church in St. Louis.
Still finalizing the logistics.
We may or may not be going to Berkeley, may or may not be going to Cal State Fullerton, UW, Milwaukee, and potentially a church in Baltimore, and Fresno, and a couple other stops in between.
It's excellent.
You don't travel enough, Charlie.
I'm convinced of it.
But I've actually really scaled it down.
I was going to say, I know that people don't understand it.
When we first launched the podcast and the radio show, you were traveling 300 days a year.
Yeah, we scaled it down.
And I have to say that, you know, January and February, most of the month, I was actually in town.
And it's but it's not that I wasn't working.
I was actually working harder.
Yeah, we had to not do that Fox thing, that education thing, and a couple other things.
Yeah, we said notice some stuff intentionally just to try to.
It was big.
We do have that clip, by the way.
101.
Okay, so yeah, this was the great Rush Limbaugh, where he was one of those last public appearances at a Turning Point USA event.
I was really honored to be able to get him for that event.
Him and Trump were there together.
It was really amazing.
Okay, let's play it.
Cut 101.
I'll tell you, I have been dying to talk to high school students about so much about what's happening.
I just want to tell you, I don't have time tonight, but I just want to tell you, climate change is a hoax.
Please don't believe it.
Whatever you do, I beg of you.
As the whole climate change, climate change contains every issue the left wants in their bid to transform this country.
So please, I know it's susceptible.
They're scaring you.
They're making you think the planet's not going to support life in 20 years.
It's bunk, folks.
It just bunk.
He saw the whole thing coming.
Yeah.
How important is that clip now when you play it back and you see everything that's happening with the Biden administration that we're in an energy transformation?
So just suck it up.
Take $5 gas, which, by the way, San Francisco is now above $5 on average.
That's right.
And L.A.
Yeah.
LA, I think, is like at $4.98.
Yes.
It's like two cents behind.
But yeah, I mean, you see all the damage that has been done.
And now we're about to buy more fuel or gas from Iran.
And we're still buying energy from Russia.
Now, they're saying that some of that hasn't been able to get into our ports lately.
So maybe there's some movement on that front.
But nevertheless, they had to take massive amounts of incoming from senators, from shows like this, to even get that far, right?
And a lot of that is just because in the private energy markets, there's a stigma attached to buying energy, Russian energy.
So a lot of that is still private.
And let's just go through the implication of this.
Producer Connor, who just, you know, he just keeps on taking hits.
His rent went up by $600 a month.
It cost him $72 to fill up his four-door Nissan sedan.
Yeah.
$72.
Yeah.
So he's paying $600 more in rent per month than he's probably filling up for like $40, $45.
You get poorer as prices go up.
No, you get poorer as Democrats come into power and they say, just suck it up, middle-class Americans, especially white Americans, not to make it racial, but that's really the way it feels in the last couple of years.
And they say, hey, listen, if you're part of what we consider the privileged class, then we really don't care if it's hard for you or if you have to take something on the chip.
But think about who drives the most.
Rural voters.
Totally.
If you live in New York City, car ownership is low, record low in New York City.
That's true.
Most people don't own cars.
Or they're taking public.
That's it.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Well, you're taking public transportation, and then they simultaneously defund the police and demonize the police in front of subways.
We put you on a subway where crime is spiking over 200% on New York.
They rubbed it.
CCs in people's eyes.
Real story that's right.
Yeah, no, I mean, it's just insane.
So they say, well, you know, listen, we're going to take out your ability to be self-sufficient, drive your own car, drive your own vehicle.
We're going to make it so expensive.
You're not going to want to do it.
And then, by the way, if you take the public option, you're going to get mugged or worse.
It's great.
This is the world we're living in.
So all of this is kind of around this Ukrainian-Russian situation.
But the Ukrainian government, I just want to make sure everyone knows what you're supporting if you're doing like the let's stand with Ukraine stuff.
This is so important.
I'm saying that.
And I'm not saying Putin is a good guy.
I think he's a thug.
I've denounced him.
Not saying Russia is good.
I don't like it.
I don't like what they're doing at all.
You shouldn't invade a country.
However, a sovereign country.
That's obvious, though.
But I need to say it, or else.
Yeah, no, I mean, but that's the point.
It's obvious.
So, what's a more interesting question?
What's more interesting is who is Ukraine and why are our leaders posing with this posing with a blended flag of Ukrainian and American flag together, right?
Desecrating the flag.
So what does President Zelensky stand for?
What is Zelensky's worldview?
Zelensky believes in the following: he believes in the free distribution of marijuana.
He believes in free abortion in Ukraine, the legalization of prostitution and gambling, and he opposes the legalization of weapons.
So I don't know if most Americans agree with that.
Well, most conservatives agree with that.
I think, obviously, on the weapons issue, at least, he's probably changed his tune.
But again, this is what the liberal world order does.
They love rules.
They love rules for law-abiding people until they get an emergency use authorization.
They like rules unless they deal with pleasure.
They want you to be able to pursue pleasure without any restriction.
By virtue, they're going to strike you.
They'll tear up a constitution if they think, you know, you saw this with the tyrant Trudeau in Canada.
I mean, he used the Emergencies Act.
We saw this in the United States with These vaccines and different mandates and lockdowns during the pandemic.
So there's Nancy Pelosi and a couple other people.
I can't really recognize most of it.
Let me pull it up here.
Let me see who I can recognize.
Dan Crenshaw.
Yep.
He's in the picture there.
Let me see who else is in that picture that I recognize.
Looks like Don Bacon.
Who else is in that picture?
Oh, Burgess Owens is in that picture.
Now, in all fairness, I'm going to defend some of these people.
I don't know if they know that this flag was actually being used.
And who knows?
I could, maybe they did.
Maybe that they said, hey, we're going to take a picture.
Or maybe they said, hey, we're going to go do a protest in support of Ukraine or whatever.
But I don't know.
I mean, basically, that's Denny Hoyer, of course.
Yeah, it's a good point, though.
I mean, because we know that Pelosi rules the house with an iron fist.
And they might have just pulled this flag.
They probably just said, hey, let's go take a picture in solidarity with some of these diplomats from Ukraine or whatever.
And they go take it.
And then she rolls it out.
And these people in the back row have no idea.
They have no idea.
There's Peter Meyer, of course.
That's totally possible.
Yeah, I mean, whatever.
I mean, the point is, you don't do that to the American flag.
And these people are not going to be able to do that.
But no, I mean, it goes to show, but it's really important.
They did this with the African thing, too.
And part of the project of Ukraine from the U.S. State Department was trying to impose our woke, socially left-wing values into Ukraine.
This is very important.
And this is not why Putin is invading Ukraine, but it's a component of why he detests NATO.
He detests the West.
Yeah, Putin is super socially conservative, right?
He's so socially conservative that he's a legitimate authoritarian fascist.
It goes beyond even restraints towards virtue.
He's like, I don't believe in any sort of fruits of the Enlightenment.
You disagree, I'm going to lock you into prison.
Like, thuggery.
You're totally right.
He's very publicly on the record said that the West is pushing upon the world a degeneracy.
It's lying about genders.
The fact that there are two genders, all of these things that, you know, us on the political right, we say, well, Putin's not wrong.
It doesn't make him right.
When we say that, it doesn't make him right about invading a sovereign country.
But here's what people need to understand: is that to call White Hat black hat in this geopolitical mix-up, this invasion, it is an invasion.
To just simply say one is good, one is bad is completely.
It's way murkier than that.
It's cloudier.
And hero worship is way too far.
Yeah, and I don't want to live in Russia.
I have no aspiration.
I think Russia's awful, honestly.
But the point is that one of the rallying cries for the Putin troops is like, hey, the degeneracy that you see in the West, right?
The child pedophilia, the outward child pornography, the movies like cuties, right?
The outward transgender stuff, the men that could become women, they air that stuff on Russian television as a way to try to turn Russians against the West, right?
Where Russians are far more socially conservative as a people.
Now, that's not to say all of them are.
There's plenty of people in Russia that are atheists and kind of live a degenerate lifestyle.
But it is a rallying cry for Putin that has allowed him to hold on to power.
Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of questions about Putin's ability to wage this offensive in Ukraine and potentially beyond Ukraine in the long run.
You know, we had Adam Korzynitsky, Korzy, Korzy, who is speculating that he might be facing a legitimacy crisis back home, especially if this becomes a prolonged endeavor.
But to your point, I think there is a majority within Russia that are certainly supportive of his worldview about what the West is propagating in terms of social values on values.
And I think Ukraine is a perfect example.
Now, right after we got done with Colonel McGregor, he sent me a text from somebody that sent him a note on his website.
And it's basically, it's an American that was living in Ukraine in 2013.
He was saying, listen, corruption was everywhere.
But after he went back in 2017, he said in 2013, it was livable.
By 2017, the corruption had got so bad that basically bragging in Ukrainian culture about fleecing Uncle Sam, America, by using our money that we're pumping into Ukraine, which is essentially our vassal state in Eastern Europe.
It became a status symbol.
So if you had a Land Rover, you were walking around.
It was like, look at me.
Uncle Sam and Department of State hooked me up with this Land Rover, meaning you can't touch me.
You can't hurt me.
I am so powerful that I'm above the law.
Okay.
And this was flaunted.
This is flaunted everywhere in Ukrainian culture.
So don't give me that this is all good and all bad and all virtue and all evil.
It's just simply not that true.
Does that mean that I support Putin invading Russia?
Of course not.
And this knee-jerk reaction to a binary at all junctures of this story as it's unfolded, and you see this with the media erupting on McGregor, you see him erupting on Tucker.
That is just such adolescent thinking.
There is more nuance to this story, though.
No doubt.
And so some people say Russia is a Christian nation.
I think that goes too far.
If you actually just look at the demographic breakdown of religion in America versus Russia, we're technically a more Christian nation than Russia is.
There's a huge atheist population in Russia from communist areas.
From the communist area, a lot of hangovers.
There's a fair amount of Muslims.
There are some people that are just kind of generally believers that believe in something.
So I don't love that argument.
I will say, though, it is far more Christian, though, than most Western European countries, though.
It's far more Christian than Spain, far more Christian than Italy, far more Christian than France, far more Christian than Germany, which they've become basically complete and total secular nations in Europe.
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I mean, there is this negotiation that's happening.
I mean, we touched on it before, but there is basically Robert Malley, who's the U.S. special envoy to Iran, is currently in Vienna.
And apparently, the negotiation is going so poorly about the, so he negotiated the JCPOA in 2015.
So he is the guy that basically was responsible for the document that Trump came in, ripped up, and got the United States out of the Iran nuclear deal, right?
It was an unbelievably bad deal.
Yeah, it was an unbelievably bad deal.
Well, guess what?
He's at it again.
So when we talk about our elites failing us and we talk about how America deserves better elites, at least we like to think we deserve better elites.
He's at it again and he's in Vienna.
And basically there's a sub stack from Melanie Phillips.
She published it 21 hours ago.
She basically says that it's going so poorly that she was, you know, she felt obligated to write this and that she had permission from some people on the ground.
This is all happening while we're worried about Putin launching nuclear weapons.
Like, oh, let's go give another authoritarian nuclear weapons in the Middle East.
Yeah.
And so she highlights a Twitter thread from Gabrielle Norona that says, one, my former career at the State Department, NSC, and EU colleagues are so concerned with the concessions being made by Rob Malley in Vienna that they've allowed me to publish some details of the coming deal in hopes that Congress will act to stop capitulation.
What's happening in Vienna is a total disaster, one warned.
The entire negotiations have been filtered and essentially run by Russian diplomat Mikhail Ulyanov.
The concessions and other misguided policies have led three members of the U.S. negotiating team to leave.
They're basically stripping away different sanctions of all of these leaders within Iran, including the Iranian military that has murdered people all around the world, apparently, according to this thread.
We're about to be not only in a geopolitical cluster in eastern Ukraine and Russia, but we're also going to have Taiwan coming on board.
And now we've got basically JCPOA number two.
So Biden, when you think about former Secretary of Defense Gates saying that Biden has been on essentially the wrong side of every geopolitical issue in the last 40 years.
And if I were to offer some feedback, constructive feedback for when Trump runs for president, again, because he will in 2024, everyone was so focused on COVID.
We were so focused on that in the 2020 election that foreign policy was really not a big part of the 2020 election.
And I mean, it was a, I can't find one theater that he was not in A in.
Yeah.
Asia, Middle East, historic peace.
And I don't think he did a good job.
He or his team did a good job telling that story of his amazing accomplishments.
I remember when you said when you said that about the Abraham Accords, when you were like, my only problem in the debate, I think it was his first debate in 2020, you said he didn't bring up the Abraham Accords.
That's right.
I remember what you said.
It's literal peace in the Middle East.
It's that we got a peace deal done between the United Arab Emirates and between Israel.
And we have peace in the Middle East.
And somehow, you know, that wasn't communicated.
And not to mention, you know, it kept Russia in check.
They weren't invading anybody.
So I think that there was a big missed opportunity because you see right now, the world's a catastrophe, right?
It's a basket case.
Everyone's doing everything.
If America doesn't lead, then the world falls into absolute chaos.
I want to be an isolationist.
I am so in my gut to be an isolationist, but there is a point where you have to say, listen, we've got to keep the sea lanes open.
We've got to create some order because these bad actors will fall into the void.
There's a prudent middle ground that you can get to, which is not total isolationism and also not trying to drop bombs on every mountain village.
Absolutely.
To your earlier point, though, Trump's accomplishments were myriad.
I mean, the accomplishment in China, people don't forget this.
It was like May, I was in the White House, actually, when the second, or the Chinese deal got signed.
I remember that was there that day.
It's a long story while I was there.
But the point is, it was like a month or two later that the pandemic hit.
And then basically the trade deal with China kind of fell apart.
But Trump got major concessions in there, and it sort of re-established the balance of power between China and the U.S.'s economic partners.
That's right.
To your point, you're absolutely right.
We've got to keep our eye on this Iranian story.
It's very important.
They're getting closer to a nuclear weapon, everybody, and it's happening very quietly.
And they're going to make a lot more energy, too, and sell it on the open market.
That's exactly right.
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