America's Very Own Trucker Convoy Gathers Steam + Rep. Jim Jordan on SPYGATE
Charlie welcome Kip Coltrin from American Frontline Truckers joins to the show with a breakdown of a gathering American Freedom Convoy starting in California March 2 and heading to DC. He details their cross country itinerary city by city and lays out with a direct, inspiring appeal to America's leaders exactly why he and thousands of his fellow frontline truckers are about to drive across the nation. Charlie then welcomes American hero, Congressman Jim Jordan, to walk through how Congressional Republicans are reacting to the bombshell Durham news, and importantly, what they are preparing to do about it should they gain power again in November. Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Trucker Convoy Begins00:02:47
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Well, there is now a U.S. convoy that is building that will be going across the country starting very, very soon.
And with us is someone from America's frontline truckers, Kip Coltran.
Kip, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Thank you very much.
Good to be here.
Thank you.
So, Kip, tell us what's going on.
Tell us when you guys are planning to go across the country and how people can help.
Well, it's pretty simple, really.
Our convoy will start the morning of or the night of March 2nd to get the California trucks rolling out.
We decided to run them through the night to get them out of the gridlock of California.
And so the day of March 2nd at 7 p.m., the trucks will leave California to converge through the night into Quartzite, Arizona, the morning of the 3rd, about 3 in the morning.
They'll take a three-hour break there, a four-hour break, and then at seven o'clock in the morning, they'll leave Quartzite, Arizona and head on to Fort Stockton and complete that day.
The next day, they'll leave Fort Stockton, make their way to South Louisiana on the fourth.
The day of the fifth, we'll get up and run from Sorf, Louisiana to the stretch in between Brunswick, Georgia, and Savannah, Georgia on the fifth.
And then by the afternoon of the sixth, we'll leave the Brunswick-Savannah stretch out there on I-95.
We'll head up close to a staging area close to Washington, D.C. for the night of the sixth landing to be able to converge with all the other truckers that are participating in this on the day of the seventh.
Breaking All The Rules00:06:34
And so, this has just kind of come so grassroots and bottom-up.
Tell us a little bit about your story and why you think this is so important to now do in America.
Well, that's a good question.
And I would offer this for many people.
Their story started two years ago when COVID came along.
Mine started eight years ago being a patriotic American when I saw an election where they took place and put basically 150 gallons of water into a 100-quart container.
It doesn't fit.
You cannot win 113% of the vote of precinct.
And then, of course, now it just seems to be confirmed with all the stuff with Dominion voting machines and all that, that these elections are no longer truthful.
They're no longer of honor to the American people who voted in the first place because it's we, the people, that decide who our elected officials are, not who they so choose with computer manipulation.
So, for me, when the COVID thing happened a couple of years ago, I watched my community, I watched our friends, my people, our families be wrought by this.
I watched people's lives be ripped up, things slowed down.
Certainly, the fear, the psychological aspect.
There were so many bad things that happened.
And through this, all I'm just sitting here watching, going, something ain't right.
And the only thing that I could name it as, just to be brief, was I call it the election infection.
Certainly, I've spoken to many doctors and nurses throughout the tenure of this thing, and there's no one better to talk to than the frontline workers dealing directly with this to get their opinion of what they think.
I'm not a medical expert, but I'm smart enough to listen to those that are with 30-plus years of experience.
And everything points to this just being a typical government sham.
Well, you feel a sense of injustice, and that's what you're articulating: is that you feel that things should go a certain way.
And you know that in trucking, if you drive on the wrong side of the street, things aren't going to go well.
And your whole life has to follow certain rules.
You must be on time.
You must have the right product.
And then your leaders decide to break all the rules.
And not just in one area, though, right?
Whether it be the ballot mules that we've discovered in Georgia and Arizona, the mail-in balloting, all these different sorts of things.
And the mandates seem to be kind of like the final straw, if I'm hearing you correctly, in this kind of volcanic buildup.
Is that right?
Very much so.
It is the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.
When you take someone's wallet and shake it, when you take someone's home and upset it, when you take away the liberties and justices that these people, our veterans, have fought and died for on lands all across the world for all these years, and you manipulate it and you take away our constitutional rights, then you will wake up the sleeping giant.
And I'll offer this in making that mention of the sleeping giant.
America's people are not domestic terrorists.
They're people who want to live their lives, raise their families, live by the golden rule, do right by their brothers and sisters, serve in their communities, and just live their lives without the oppression of the American government and the injustices that they continue to impose upon us by way of either party, science, or personal gain.
And that's exactly right.
This is really a citizen outcry for justice.
You know, it says in the great books that in our soul, we know we yearn for justice.
And, you know, you take a toy away from a two-year-old, he or she will say that's not fair.
And so you can only push normal people that follow the rules every single day.
And all of a sudden, our leaders don't follow those very same rules.
And so can you just go through again?
I'm sorry, you kind of did it quickly, the cities where people can support you.
And you said it was like Quartzite, Arizona, and all that.
Just go through that again.
I think that's really helpful.
I want to try to encourage our listeners to come, you know, give you guys some meals, some support, whatever it can be.
And can also, my other question is, can non-truckers join the convoy?
Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.
I'll answer all three absolutely to that.
Of course, let me go back over the itinerary.
Again, our trucks will be leaving.
The convoy will begin with our California State Truck Coordinator, Miss Gina DeLaura, out of Fresno, California, the night of March 2nd.
She will begin making her way to Quartzite at approximately 7 p.m.
She'll drive till about 3 in the morning and land in Quartzite, Arizona.
At that point, they'll take a four-hour break.
Whoever else converges with her, they'll take the four-hour break, which on that time when they go to break, it'll be the third.
They'll take the break.
They'll get up, and the whole day of the third, they'll drive from Quartzite, Arizona to Fort Stockton, Texas.
Once they get to Fort Stockton, they'll stay the night there.
The day of the fourth, if I'm, yes, the day of the fourth.
It gets kind of confusing without my notes in front of me.
So the day of the fourth, they'll leave Fort Stockton, Texas.
They'll make their way to Sulfur, Louisiana.
That'll be another hard stop for the night.
On the day of the 5th, we'll leave Sophia, Louisiana and head east on I-10, I-12, back to I-10, converge to Jacksonville, Florida, then head up north on I-95 to land in this stretch between Brunswick, Georgia, and Savannah, Georgia.
There's a reason, and I'm gonna stop briefly there.
There's a reason we're leaving that stretch open.
Our expectation is that we come across the country, we expect this thing to build.
And when you're working with numbers that you don't know that aren't set in stone because we're not taking a registry, we're just kind of leaving that end open.
So that'll be on the 5th.
We'll hard stop there between Brunswick and Savannah on the 5th.
And on the morning of the 6th, we'll leave that stretch and head on up to a staging area just outside of Washington, D.C. Hard stop for the night.
And then on the morning of the 7th with other organized convoys that we're pairing with and converging with.
And look, it's not, there's nobody in charge of this, right?
Each prospective group has their detail.
But when I mention now the 7th, there's so much commingling and so much coming together of American people and a patriotic movement showing unity, solidarity, that on the 7th, when we go into the Washington area, it's going to be like that biblical dam breaking.
Just stay peaceful and 100%, right?
Because then also they're going to try to do everything they can to infiltrate your group and say things you don't represent.
You know all this stuff.
But if all of a sudden you start to see weird stuff and weird flags, it's important to denounce it and get them out of there because you know the way the left works.
They're going to try to come with all this nonsense and try to stop a beautiful, peaceful movement.
So very important you stay at you know, keep it that way.
How Democrats Operate00:15:38
So, um, Kip, thank you so much for joining our program.
Um, you know, the truckers, you and all of your, you know, co-workers, you guys kept America afloat, and um, you're the backbone of America.
Last thought for the brothers and sisters, we're not just the backbone of America.
Every hardworking America out there is the backbone of this country, be it the doctors, the nurses, the school teachers, the pipe fitter, the welder, the mechanic, the guy that changes your tires, the shopkeeper, the convenience store clerk.
This is all of our fight.
And it's a time now where it not be Republican or Democrat, it not be anything about race, nationality, or creed.
It needs to be a time where people come together as Americans and say, we're done.
It's time to stand up.
Amen.
Well, thank you, Kip, so much.
And we'll talk to you soon.
Best of luck.
Thank you.
God bless.
Thank you all for having me on.
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17 Republicans just signed a letter to Joe Biden.
I'm reading from Breitbart.com demanding, saying we need more foreign workers.
So there are 12 million Americans out of work.
There's 35 to 40 million members of my generation that are underemployed.
Let me say that again.
They are underemployed.
So you're not even looking at unemployment.
Let's talk about underemployment.
Now, what is underemployment?
Well, it's someone that went to Wichita State University and they got a degree in Central American Migratory Bird Studies.
And they're working as a barista or they're working as some sort of social media manager, but they are clearly underemployed.
But don't worry, Senate Republicans are on the job.
Senate Republicans believe that while Biden is trying to bring more people into the country, they want to help them do that.
Senators asked Biden to speed up the process so employers could get more foreign workers into blue-collar American jobs.
So while we have inflation and while things are more expensive, they want to bring in more foreign workers so that you could depress wages.
So prices are going up.
So let's try to get our own carpenters and plumbers disenfranchised from ever being able to have meaningful work.
Why are they doing this?
Well, the 17 Republicans who signed the letter, and I respect some of these people, and I philosophically see where Rand Paul is coming from on this.
I totally disagree with him.
He's more libertarian when it comes to immigration.
I am not.
But some of these other people, Kevin Kramer, Mike Rounds, Lindsey Graham, James Risch, Lisa Murkowski, Roy Blunt, Cythia Lummis, John Cornyn, Mike Crapo, John Thune, Susan Collins, Pat Toomey, Roger Wicker, Jerry Moran, Rand Paul, who I'm going to exempt Rand Paul because he's been so amazing on Fauci and honestly, he's a friend of mine, and he's just been awesome on many other things.
John Barroso and Tim Scott, but they sign it alongside 17 Democrats.
And it says, quote, the White House and congressional Democrats.
Now, that's a separate quote.
This is from R.J. Howman from the Federation for American Immigration Reform saying, quote, Republicans say they're great on the illegal front due to the border crisis, but why not also oppose programs that are rife with abuse, displace American workers, and depress wages?
Of course they do.
Why are Republicans going out of their way to try and pander to big business who hates you, by the way?
Hates you.
They say, well, we need more foreign workers for like Disney World.
Oh, really?
We need to go help Disney World now?
Disney, who funds the most grotesque propaganda for your children on Disney Plus, and also is like a Democrat super PAC.
Big business wants more labor.
And by the way, you might say, well, Charlie, these are people that will become entrepreneurs.
That's not what an H2 visa is.
An H2B visa is a non-agricultural U.S. work visa.
The employment must be of a temporary nature for a limited time of a one-time occurrence, seasonal peak load.
It's non-agricultural.
So you might be, it's not even about, you know, in Yuma, Arizona, where there is a massive need to try to pick, you know, or harvest agricultural crops.
That's not this.
This is to try and bring down the wages of Native born Americans.
And what countries are eligible for H2 visas?
Well, the DHS has just announced an expanded list of countries that are available for H2B visas, including all across the world, including many third world countries.
I don't understand what Republicans are thinking when they pander to the needs, wants, and interests of corporate Democrats that would be really bad for their voters.
I mean, I just take North and South Dakota, for example, where two of the senators signed this letter.
Is this really going to help an average worker in North Dakota to have more competition for muscular labor?
If Republicans want to take back the House and the Senate, maybe they shouldn't try to do deals with Democrats that will actually hurt their voters.
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And I'm so honored to have him with us on this breaking news day with the Durham information.
Congressman, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Good to be with you, Charlie.
Thanks for all the good work you're doing.
Thank you.
So I'm just blown away.
I'm blown away that we have now information that shows that Hillary was not just spying on the campaign, but while he was president, the floor is yours.
Yeah.
And we'll go from there.
Yeah.
No, you're exactly right.
Remember when President Trump said it in 2017, they're spying on me and all the press.
And the Democrats said, no, no, no, that's not happening.
And then in 2019, we had the Attorney General of the United States say that there was spying took place.
There was a basis for his concern about that spying.
And of course, the press and the Democrats had the same reaction.
No, no, no.
Well, now we know for certain that they weren't just spying on President Trump's campaign, but as you point out, they were spying on the sitting president of the United States, spying on the commander-in-chief of the United States.
I mean, that is how bad this is.
And what I think is amazing is if you read the filing and then what's been written about it, it wasn't just tech executive one, this jappy guy, and Zussman.
They were communicating with Mark Elias, the top Democrat, the Democrat top election lawyer, the chief counsel for the Clinton campaign.
He was in on this too to some degree.
And I think that's telling because this is the guy who is now going around doing all the things he's doing, filing election complaints and concerns against Republicans and the redistricting and everything else.
It goes right to the chief counsel of the Clinton campaign based on what we learned from Mr. Durham this weekend.
Yeah, and so I was shocked to learn that they actually had back-end access to White House internet activity.
People are suggesting this could not be done without intelligence community support.
Is that true?
Well, I don't know for sure, but it would seem likely.
And remember, we already know the FBI was spying on Trump in the campaign.
Now we know the Clinton campaign was trying to spy on President Trump as well and then get that information to the FBI.
We know Zussman walked in and handed them the thumb drive about the quote Alpha Bank connection that wasn't really there.
So this is how the Democrats operate.
They go create something, tell the press about the press writes about it.
They try to get the intelligence agencies and the government to do something about it, and they create this narrative.
And that's exactly what they were doing here.
So you got to believe that there was somebody on the inside helping as well.
Who that may have been, what agency they may have been working for, we don't know yet.
There's certainly likely suspects.
I think one of the things I'm struck by is how often the Democrats say, oh, Donald Trump and Republicans are a threat to democracy.
And I'm like, you had the Clinton campaign and the FBI spying on the Republicans' presidential candidate and then spying on the actual sitting president of the United States.
And somehow they're telling us that we're somehow a threat to democracy.
It is almost laughable if it wasn't so deadly serious.
MSNBC has come out and they've said one man's spy is another man's whistleblower.
And Sussman says in his reply to Durham that it was really not spying and that Durham is politicizing this unnecessarily.
And they had reason to suspect suspicious activity.
So this is going to be their kind of counter narrative.
Like, of course, we had to create a back channel into the White House.
I mean, come on.
It's not like Trump was a usual president.
Please go ahead.
Well, you know, though, I just say, Charlie, there's just one problem with that whole, you know, that whole argument is Bob Mueller spent $40 million, 19 lawyers, 40 FBI agents, and three years of our time telling us that, investigating all this, and what did he find?
That there was no collusion.
So they can say all they want, but we had an investigation that took place and said it wasn't there, nothing whatsoever.
All these allegations they brought up against President Trump have just turned out not to be accurate.
So they can say that, but the people don't buy it.
And then you put it in context.
So remember, it was about 10 years ago when we discovered the IRS was targeting all kinds of conservatives around the country.
Five years ago, it was the FBI targeting President Trump's campaign, which we were talking about.
Four months ago, we learned that it was the Department of Justice targeting parents, and they used the exact same model.
They have a template.
The model was, oh, the Department of Education went out and solicited from the National School Board Association, give us a letter saying that you think things are happening out there so that we can then get the government to do what we want to do, namely go after moms and dads.
And that's exactly what the Justice Department did.
So they solicited the information.
They created the narrative so they could do what they wanted.
Same thing happened with this spying situation.
And for them to try to excuse it is just not accurate.
Well, not at all.
And so I guess I have some other questions, such as how involved is Hillary Clinton in the design of all this?
We may never actually get an answer to that.
How long was the spying occurring into the executive office of the president of the United States?
And finally, you brought up a very important point.
Why didn't Bob Mueller discover that a private entity had back-end access, a tunnel into the White House traffic?
It's just hard to believe that Bob Mueller couldn't find that.
Yeah, no kidding.
I mean, what did you spend the 30, 40 million bucks on with all these lawyers and all these agents to do what?
To indict 13 Russians that no one's ever going to see or going to know.
We frankly don't even really what they did.
So, yeah, what was he doing there?
To your question about Secretary Clinton, my guess is Hillary Clinton ran the campaign.
I mean, it was her campaign.
The idea that she didn't know about this, I find hard to believe.
Maybe she didn't.
Maybe this was, you know, just, you know, the Mark Elias was coordinating this or someone else was.
Who knows?
But they certainly talked about it right away because we have the tweet coming from Jake Sullivan and from Secretary Clinton herself during the campaign alluding to this issue.
So they were sure quick to point it out.
Whether they knew about it and orchestrated at all, I don't know, but I find it hard to believe that they did it.
Well, and I also want to just say that this is what we've caught them doing.
And again, there's no evidence of this, but I could just speculate, what don't we know of what they have done of the last couple of years in this regard?
Meaning, how much did they spy on Trump's 2020 campaign, right?
Did they have other encrypted type tunnels?
I mean, and so, Congressman, if Iran all of a sudden went to some subcontractors at Georgia Tech University, hired them and said, hey, we want to know the internet activity in the White House, we would call that treason, wouldn't we?
Of course we would.
Of course we would.
And let's, I mean, I think one of the key questions is, what did they do with this information?
Yes.
So you're following the president, spying the sitting president, the commander-in-chief.
You're doing that.
How was this information used?
Because right now, all we know is what Durham has told us.
They were trying to create a narrative, create an inference, which, by the way, Charlie, doesn't that sound like you're trying to frame somebody?
They were trying to frame the president of the United States.
That is frightening.
So if they're doing all that, who were they sharing this information with?
That's an important question.
Did it just go to Dustman?
Did it just go to Elias?
Did it just go to who?
And what did they do with it?
So those are the kind of things we need to know.
And I think you raised a great question.
Spying On The President00:05:34
What were they doing in 2020?
So I believe that Republicans are going to take back the House if things are going according to the plan.
I think you'll be a chairman of a certain committee.
What can you do to help get to the bottom of this?
Because I think Durham's going to do what he does, but I don't know if he's going to be tasked necessarily with uncovering every detail around spying on a president of the United States.
That might be part of it, but I think he also is trying to hold people criminally accountable.
There might be a lot of things that we might not get answers to.
Is this something that you're to look into if Republicans get the majority back?
Yeah, because it's part of a broader narrative.
It's part of a larger context of the government being weaponized against political enemies.
And that is not supposed to happen in the United States of America.
So we will, I think right now we will start with this school board situation and this, you know, this threat tag label put on moms and dads, but we will build out from there because the Justice Department is something the Judiciary Committee has, you know, deals with, obviously, it has jurisdiction over.
So we will start there, I believe, if in fact the American people put us in control of the United States House of Representatives.
Well, that's terrific.
And so, I mean, I'm glad to hear that.
People want justice, especially right now.
And then just kind of one or two final kind of points here, Congressman, which I think is really important, which is the media is completely silent on this at all.
I mean, you look at the numbers.
I think CNN did two minutes.
Every other network hasn't covered this at all.
Washington Post has said, oh, no, Trump really wasn't spied on me.
Come on, who cares if the internet activity was monitored?
And by the way, we already know that Trump was spied on unofficially.
How else were they able to impeach him over a phone call if people weren't listening to his private conversations?
And they don't call that spying.
They call that listening, whatever.
The point is that a private phone call that was perfectly fine, they went after him.
They said, oh, it's a whistleblower.
And so what we're really looking at here, though, and I just want your kind of riffing comments on this, is we really have two governments, one that is kind of the temporary representative of the people.
And then one is kind of this like permanent, we call it the deep state, we call it the fourth estate, we call it the unelected.
But the question is really who has the power?
And I think it's going to be up to the new Congress to hopefully rebalance the structure of the Constitution.
I think it's maybe the most important thing we have to do because this idea that people who never put their name on a ballot don't go out and talk directly to the American people, don't get elected to office to make the decisions, somehow that the unelected folks are making the decisions.
And Dr. Fauci is running our lives.
Always say, when did Dr. Fauci ever get elected to anything?
But he's the highest paid official in the United States government, and he has ran our lives for the last year and a half.
That is not how it works in the United States of America.
So it's this broad issue of this unelected bureaucracy, the so-called experts running our life.
And you're exactly right, Charlie.
That's what happened in impeachment number one.
These folks at the State Department said, How dare the president of the United States, how dare the commander-in-chief decide who gets to be ambassador, what our foreign policy is?
How dare he do that?
It's supposed to be us, quote, expert following.
Remember the term they use, the interagency process for making decisions.
Well, forget that.
The process for making decisions is we decide who's going to be president of the United States.
That individual has the power to decide our foreign policy and make decisions, regardless, frankly, of what the quote experts may say.
Now, he's going to listen to them.
And we had some great ones with President Trump, like Mike Pompeo and others who helped with foreign policy.
But it ultimately goes to the person whose name is on the ballot.
So that is a huge issue that we've got to change in Washington, D.C.
Yeah, I mean, you have a situation where a president is duly elected and they don't like it.
So they build a back-end tunnel to spy on frame, try to trip him into an ability to remove it.
I mean, the entire promise of the American Constitution was under assault from day one.
It's a lot bigger than Trump.
And I hope people realize that.
Congressman, thank you so much for everything you're doing.
And we're going to do everything we can to get you the majority back.
So thank you.
God bless you.
Thank you.
Talk to you soon.
Thank you.
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Part of the media's trick is going to be, look, Hillary's out of the picture.
She's a grandma and like, let's leave her alone.
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No, no, no.
The entire scheme to spy on a sitting president, which would otherwise be called an insurrection or treason.
So let's think about it.
Who spies?
Well, you spy on your enemies.
We used to spy on the Soviet Union.
And when spies are caught, they are tortured, imprisoned, and sometimes killed.
In fact, there were many instances of American spies in the Cold War that were imprisoned and tortured, and some suspected even to be killed.
Spy wars are something that is quite, well, it's documented probably better than Hollywood than anyone else.
There's tons of movies about spy wars and that entire genre.
It's very appealing.
But when you have Hillary Clinton that does a domestic spy operation as if she's the KGB against the American government, everyone's going to be like, oh, no, it's just Hillary.
No, no, no, no.
It's broader than that.
It's Mark Elias and Jake Sullivan as well, reading from thefederalist.com.
Americans can't trust a liar like Jake Sullivan to be honest about the threats facing the nation when he's guilty of fabricating them.
Jake Sullivan right now has power.
No one voted for Jake Sullivan.
Jake Sullivan is closer to an insurrectionist than the Chewbacca guy that went up to the Senate and started screaming.
Jake Sullivan is a political insurrectionist.
How?
Well, it's because in a scandal bigger than Watergate, he and his anti-Trump cronies, Jordan Boyd writes, took the information gathered through covert mining and orchestrated the lie that then presidential candidate was secretly communicating with the Russian Alpha Bank.
This lie was then peddled to a federal law enforcement agency such as the FBI for further justification to spy on Trump and his campaign.
So you have the hoaxer himself, Jake Sullivan, who has legitimate power over the national security apparatus right now under Biden.
He's Biden's crony who wants to get us in a war with Ukraine.
Why?
To probably distract from some of this.
But then you also have Mark Elias.
So who is Mark Elias?
Mark Elias is the chief bully who comes in and sues on behalf of quote unquote voting reform efforts.
He runs a website called democracydocket.com, which is not the only organization he oversees.
Mark Elias kind of looks like a Tony Soprano type.
He is a dark, disturbed individual who is willing to fight in the trenches and fight in the streets.
You got to give him credit.
He's willing to fight nasty.
He has partnered with Stacey Abrams and many others.
He goes in and sues on the redistricting maps.
He sues all across the board.
One of the reasons why Republicans have failed so miserably on redistricting, despite an opportunity to do quite well, is because of people like Mark Elias.
Republicans are afraid of Mark Elias.
Well, Mark Elias just so happens to be very involved in the architecting or the designing of the Hillary Clinton scheme to spy on a sitting president of the United States.
And Mark Elias was the chief counsel, general counsel to the Hillary Clinton campaign and also to John Kerry in 2004.
So basically, Mark Elias is known to represent Democrat candidates when they lose.
But he has decided to become nastier.
He left the law firm Perkins Cooey to start the Elias law group.
And basically, Mark Elias is making literally millions of dollars from quote-unquote dark money Democrat donors who put their money in a series of 501c4 organizations to then give him money to go sue to go change voting laws.
He tweeted out yesterday.
Today, Kansas was sued over illegal maps.
Florida, voting rights trial continued.
Georgia, redistricting hearings concluded.
North Carolina issued a key redistricting opinion.
In short, democracy was on the docket.
That's his whole shebang.
His deal is to bring money from Lorene Powell Jobs and other people through his organizations to hyper-aggressively sue under the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
He is the centerpiece.
In some ways, Mark Elias is way more powerful than the Podestas are right now.
You know, Podesta, there was a lot done, you know, kind of around a lot of research around Podesta.
Elias is the new character.
He is the centerpiece.
Mark Elias wants fundamental cultural and civilizational transformation.
He's willing to get into the streets to fight about it.
But guess what?
There's a little problem.
Mark Elias is likely implicated in this entire scheme to sit on a sitting president of the United States alongside Jake Sullivan.
I have a question.
If a sitting national security advisor is indicted, how does that work?
Does the FBI raid the White House?
Just curious.
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