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Feb. 4, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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A LIVE Report From the Frontlines of Canada’s Freedom Convoy
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Parents Risking Lives for Kids 00:09:03
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Also, do we have to make the case against pedophilia?
Unfortunately, yes.
And professors are teaching their students that pedophilia is okay.
It's hard to even believe that's a thing we have to talk about.
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Okay, I got a lot of different stories I want to get to.
First, I just want to get to this question: has modernity made us better people?
We have a lot of technology at our disposal.
It's no mystery.
Does it make us more likely to have sympathy for one another?
Compassion?
What moral construct are we using to make decisions?
Almost all decisions are moral decisions, regardless of what the judge nominate, judicial nominee that Biden put up, that Ted Cruz asked the other day.
So, under what form of morality is this acceptable?
Hospitals in Germany and the United Kingdom and Israel refuse life-saving transplant to three-year-old because his parents were unvaccinated.
The Politico EU reports that a three-year-old boy from Cyprus was denied a heart transplant by a hospital in Germany because his parents were not fully vaccinated.
And it wasn't just Germany.
The boy was turned away by hospitals in the United Kingdom and in Israel for the same reason.
Finally, a Greek hospital was found to do the transplant, and we think the boy is going to live.
The Cyprus Health Ministry had made the arrangements for the boy to be treated in Germany, but it was left scrambling after the hospital advised that it wouldn't accept the patient because his parents had not been fully vaccinated.
So, potentially allowing children to die because you don't take the medicine we want you to take, even though that medicine's not working.
It's a leaky vaccine with numerous adverse events.
Even though the boy's parents were quickly given their first dose in an effort to save their son's life, they were informed that it didn't matter because it would take six weeks for them to become fully vaccinated.
This is the most extraordinary part of the story: these parents are like, okay, fine, we'll put our life in jeopardy to save our child's life.
Sacrificial.
I will sacrifice my life for my kid, unlike what our society has done.
They've done the opposite, where we've sacrificed our kids' life for parents' lives, which is what the lockdowns are all about and what this whole COVID policy has been about.
But then the Europeans said, Oh, no, it doesn't matter.
You have to wait another six weeks to get fully vaccinated.
Cyprus wouldn't take no for an answer and asked if the child could be accompanied by a guardian.
They said no.
The European Commission confirmed a Politico that there are no policies in place in the EU that prevent a child from receiving a life-saving operation for this reason.
Health policies, including vaccination policies and their concrete implementation, are the responsibility of the member states, not the Commission.
The boy's father said, I know that unvaccinated patients are admitted to hospitals in Germany.
I didn't know that I had to be vaccinated for my child to be operated in on that hospital.
Thankfully, after all of this hysteria and media backlash, the boy has finally received treatment.
So, let me get this straight.
We are going to try and allow a three-year-old to die in the name of public health.
To try to protect public health, we let a three-year-old die.
Thankfully, the three-year-old did not die.
Thankfully, it seems like finally got the medical treatment that they needed after he did multiple stops all across Europe just to try to get life-saving medical treatment.
Very similar stories are happening in America, by the way.
And we have some new whistleblowers out.
Louisiana Department of Health whistleblower claims that COVID cases have been inflated for profit.
Play Cut 59.
My name is Jean Sag.
I am a nurse with, or was a nurse, with United Healthcare, a community and state plan of Louisiana.
When did you first notice this trend?
I would say it's around June or July.
I started seeing some cases which should not have been COVID, in my opinion.
Play Cut 60, the whistleblower continues.
This is from Project Veritas, our great friend James O'Keefe, PlayCut 60.
I've had a couple where it was like scheduled vaginal deliveries or car wrecks.
That wasn't their reason for going to the hospital.
The only way they're going to show up on my census is if COVID is their primary diagnosis.
I don't want to say it's fraud and abuse, but I mean, should I be reporting stuff like that or just letting it go?
And I thought that they got reimbursed at Medicare rate instead of Medicaid rate.
Thank you.
I mean, Medicare rate would be significantly higher than Medicaid rate.
Yeah.
So they are incentivized to inflate COVID deaths.
Dr. Robert Malone says the higher the number of vaccinations, the higher the rate of infection.
So Israel is on their fourth round of boosters.
And if we had the chart, I'd show it to you.
They've flattened the curve straight up.
The more they vaccinated, the more virus, the more positive virus rates they are having come through.
And what we're seeing at an increasing rate is adverse events associated with these things.
And it's so fascinating to me because at certain places, vaccine mandates, they're actually backing down on them.
They are quickly backing down on them because you're seeing in the Scandinavian countries a total retreat from these COVID mandates.
And America should have always led the way in the pursuit of liberty and bodily autonomy and freedom.
We did not.
Sweden has lifted nearly all COVID-19 restrictions.
We can open up society, Sweden has said.
In a press conference on Thursday morning, the Swedish government announced plans to remove the majority of restrictions against COVID-19.
Have you noticed how the American media has almost censored all international handlings of COVID from Uttar Pradesh to the failings of Israel to the failings of Singapore to the failings of Gibraltar to Sweden fully and totally opening up?
The pandemic is not over, but it's entering a new phase, said the Swedish health minister.
We are not, we are nearing the point for Sweden to open up again.
The following restrictions will be moved next week.
Indoor events will happen, vaccination passes will be removed, restaurants, curfews will be removed.
Basically, all COVID restrictions will be lifted.
And now, I will say this: that spending the last couple days in California, technically, they have mask mandates, and I wasn't being cute or defiant.
I just didn't have a mask and I didn't feel like wearing one.
No one stopped me anywhere.
Everyone else is wearing masks.
The local hotel I was at, local restaurant I was at.
And again, I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything.
I just didn't want to wear one.
If someone came up to me, I was like, All right, fine, give me a mask, whatever.
No one stopped me at all.
Producer Andrew claims he didn't wear a mask in the airport yesterday.
It's good.
Now, now that they got you.
And some private good news: someone who's been really struggling with COVID, who is close to us and was getting really bad advice from doctors.
Again, I'm not giving you medical advice.
Always go through people that know what they're doing.
But thankfully, we connected them with the A-team.
After two weeks of long COVID, he took some ivermectin.
He has turned the corner.
Praise God.
Questioning Age of Consent Laws 00:06:25
We have so many stories like that.
One after the other, after the other.
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Let's get to this story here.
I don't like covering these stories.
They're super dark and it's just hard to believe.
I would not be covering this story if it was just some guy on the side of the street, some deranged idiot that was saying this sort of stuff.
But when professors start to say the things that are so outrageous, the people that you pay for through your taxpayer dollars or through your tuition dollars, or you send your children to college, you have a right to know and you have a right to publicize this.
So, morality is one of the most important topics we've been talking about.
The protection of children is a Judeo-Christian idea that children must be protected, nurtured, and not taken advantage of.
I don't think I have to spend an entire podcast on why that is the case.
That would be what we call self-evident.
But modernity that we are living through, the era of subjectivity, the death of reason, with also the death of revelation, would all of a sudden allow people to start to question norms that otherwise would be considered common sense.
So it starts with, yeah, I mean, why can't a man marry a man?
Okay.
Why can't a man become a woman?
Now, for years, people like Dennis Prager and others who were advocates for traditional marriage said, if it's just about love, what will be the argument against pedophilia?
And we were, people like Prager and others, he wasn't alone.
Was an argument that James Dobson made and many others were totally cast aside and said, That is not ever going to happen.
So, this person's a professor at the State University of New York.
And he says that an adult wanting to have sex with a kid is accepted as being wrong, but the professor says it's not obvious to me that it is in fact wrong.
This is not the first professor in recent weeks who has been trying to move the Overton window from things that are unthinkable to radical, to contested, to popular, to acceptable, to popular, to policy.
The Overton window, one of the most important ways to view all political ideas.
Play cut 45.
Imagine that an adult male wants to have sex with a 12-year-old girl.
Imagine that she's a willing participant.
A very standard, very widely held view that there's something deeply wrong about this, and it's wrong independent of it being criminalized.
It's not obvious to me that is, in fact, wrong.
I think this is a mistake.
And I think that exploring why it's a mistake will tell us not only things about adult child sex and statutory rape, but also about fundamental principles of morality.
It's not obvious to me that adult child sex is wrong.
Why shouldn't children be taken advantage of?
So, what is the moral principle?
Why should children be protected outside of the obvious self-evident?
How about this?
The weak should not be preyed on by the strong.
That's a pretty simple moral claim.
That a six-year-old is too naive, too young, to quite understand what exactly that encounter would do.
Not to mention the obvious psychological damage and the sickness that would come with such an activity.
Do I have to explain this?
Yes, you do, actually.
This is who's teaching your children.
Play cut 56.
Listen, you're talking to a guy who for 25 years has been making arguments more or less in defense of adult child sex in classrooms.
I don't know if it's the same argument as yours, but I even authored a piece in The Daily Beast in which I called into question the age of consent laws.
So, that person is the name Thaddeus Russell.
Is that right?
So, he published an article in The Daily Beast.
And this is his own admission.
This is not like some sort of investigative journalist.
Can you find that piece in The Daily Beast?
Where he says, Look, we're open about changing adult child sex laws.
If this shocks you, you're not paying attention.
With all possible due respect, if you're sending your child to college, you're sending them towards this garbage.
You wonder why the country's falling apart?
You have outward advocates of pedophilia that are teaching your children at colleges.
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International Attention on Convoy 00:14:55
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He's on the front lines for the fight for freedom, and his videos are extraordinary and are going viral.
I have great respect for this neighbor to the north, Viva Fry, as he is known on YouTube.
He's terrific.
Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Thank you very much for having me.
It's an interesting turn of events that, you know, I'm two hours from Ottawa, and it seems that there's not very many people, although there are a few just on the street documenting in real time.
So that although the media might try to distort, history at least can document.
So the way that I kind of get my hour-by-hour analysis of what's happening in Ottawa is two ways.
All of your amazing content.
And then also I go to Apple Maps and I just look at the traffic in Ottawa.
I'm like, oh, yep, the streets are still blocked.
It's still happening.
Tell us, you've been on the ground.
What's it like in Ottawa?
The truckers are still there.
Walk us through it.
So I live in Montreal.
It's 200 kilometers from Ottawa.
I drove in and out on Monday and in and out yesterday.
There's another guy doing some walks on the street called Auto Walks, like the city with walks at the end, except there's no commentary there.
I've been going around.
Look, I see what they're saying on the news.
CBC, the blue check mark politicians on Twitter calling it a racist, xenophobic, anti-Semitic, anti-black, racist, transphobic.
This is coming from Justin Trudeau himself and his Twitter feed.
And I'm saying, I've got to go see this for myself.
All that I'm hearing is that it's literally a winter of love in the actual sense, not like the summer of love sense in Portland.
So I drove down.
The media makes hay of two images, one of which a guy's carrying a swastika flag for whatever the reason.
The only guy in the entire crowd wearing a full bank robbery ski mask with sunglasses so you can't see anything.
The only guy doing that was asked to leave, but the media makes hay as though that is reflective or represents the entire convoy.
Another individual carrying a Confederate flag with a truck on it, all both brand new flags, by the way, who happens to have a reporter three feet from him to snap pictures.
And this allows these politicians, they are pathological liars of politicians to take to Twitter, to take to parliament, to say that this is an anti-Semitic, racist, hateful convoy.
I saw nothing but love in my 10 plus hours live streaming in real time.
So even if I captured something that was unfavorable, no editing, no nothing.
And I'm just, I'm flabbergasted by the lies that the media puts out there and the actual, the actual reality.
I'm just, it's like movie, except if you saw this in a movie like the Truman Show, you just wouldn't believe it.
And it's an international phenomenon now in Canada.
So there's a couple of questions I have.
The first of which is: Canadians by kind of a disposition are very agreeable, very nice, very pleasant.
This sort of behavior is kind of unusual, you know, to be like openly rebellious and they've been pushed too far.
Talk a little bit about that.
And also, do you think the people of Canada are largely behind what the truckers are trying to do here?
Okay, so the first part, the stereotype of the polite Canadian saying sorry, and by and large, I wouldn't say polite, I might say prone to subservience or prone to deference to authority, where the U.S., and I will say for good, but some will say for good or for bad, is the Wild West.
You know, its history was built on defying authority.
Ours was built on being a subject to authority.
Now, I don't know how that plays out exactly because maybe it's because I'm second generation Canadian that I don't have that historical baggage and I'm a little more oppositional by nature.
But even this protest, itself a protest of what we feel to be government tyranny, is the most peaceful, beautiful protest, the most polite protest you've ever seen.
I walked the streets literally looking for things to complain about that the media would run with.
I saw one act of vandalism, which was paint that said freedom convoy on a on a pillar in front of parliament.
The protesters are literally putting their garbage in garbage bags.
They're literally shoveling the sidewalks to keep them clear because the city couldn't do it.
The media ran with this narrative that the convoy was defecating or urinating on war monuments, defaced the Terry Fox monument.
Everybody knows who Terry Fox is.
The defacing of the Terry Fox monument consisted of putting a flag in his hand and a banner on his chest that said freedom.
And when I got there, that wasn't there, but there were flowers in his hand and flowers on the monument.
It's the most polite opposition to government tyranny you could possibly imagine.
There were groups of indigenous peoples doing a prayer dance in Confederate Park.
I met people of all walks of life, all genders, all gender identities, all races, all religions.
And somehow, people are running with the idea that this is an extremist, violent, anti-Semitic, racist, whatever is you want to add, convoy.
It couldn't be further from the truth.
And look, a little optimism.
I know a few people in my immediate circle who now realize they say that they cannot believe the lies versus the reality.
What was the second part of the question?
Well, are Canadians behind this?
Oh, do you think public opinion?
So this is a tough one to answer because I may be living in my own silo where I think everyone's gung-ho.
I've seen in my milieu some people say, oh, they shouldn't protest.
Just, you know, do what the government says, leave, stop obstructing.
The people I met on the street in Ottawa said, first of all, it's not that much of a disruption pretty much for anybody except perhaps the people who live there and hear the horns honking.
Even then, you go three blocks down from the convoy, you don't really hear much honking.
My impression, this is only my impression, but it's the impression I get from actually having spoken to the police officers on site.
You get that sort of wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
We're behind you, but we're just here to, because we're told to.
When I asked the police officers, any acts of violence, any acts of destruction, anything that you find over the top egregious, they said no.
They've actually been quite nice.
So I get the impression even the police are behind this, but I have met very few people who are actively against it and more and more who are turning for it.
And just for our American listeners, Terry Fox was kind of like a Forrest Gump type figure.
Forrest Gump was a Terry Fox figure.
He ran coast to coast to raise money for cancer research.
Well, just to know what he thinks, he wasn't on Forrest Gump in intellectual capacity.
He was diagnosed with terminal cancer and then decided to just run, raise.
The Terry Fox movement, some people who were alive then are comparing this to that in terms of the international, the national pride that it is causing to swell up in people's hearts.
The amount of people I've spoken to who said that they have not had a moment of optimism like this in the last two years, I can't count.
But it is really, it's awakened something in the Canadian spirit and it's contagious to the rest of the world as we're seeing.
So let's go through some of the logistics of this, which I don't think has been covered as much.
So are they literally just parking trucks in the streets and they're not moving?
How many streets is it?
How many trucks is it?
It's also super cold.
How are they showering?
How are they bathing?
How are they eating?
How are they keeping warm?
Just like walk us through the actual like kind of brick and mortar of this whole thing.
It's fascinating.
I hadn't even thought of these things myself until I get down on site.
The convoy itself is thousands and thousands of trucks, thousands, but it's not, you would not see thousands of trucks in Ottawa proper because what the police have done is on the one hand, geographically, Ottawa is right on the border.
Well, Ottawa, Ontario is right on the border of Gatineau with Quebec.
And there's a bridge.
There's a few bridges that cross over from Quebec into Ontario from Gatineau into Ottawa.
The police have blocked off those two bridges.
So the convoy portion that's in Quebec can't get to the parliament.
Within Ottawa, they've blocked off large sections of the streets in between certain portions of the convoy.
So what you see on Parliament Hill itself, it stretches by, you know, maybe two kilometers, stretches a bunch of roads back, and they're just parked there and they're just honking.
But they've sectioned it off so that if you looked at that, you'd say, okay, there's a couple hundred trucks, no big deal.
Except there's thousands, and from what I've been told, kilometers lengths of trucks that are broken off and segregated from the main Parliament Hill convoy.
So you don't get that impression, but there's drone shots of the convoy.
There's talk now that the convoy that is, you know, sectioned off in Quebec is going to go to Quebec City to protest.
But there are thousands and thousands of trucks.
And there's another portion of the convoy in Couts.
It's a small town, a border town between Alberta and Manitoba, I believe, where there's another standoff convoy blocking the border.
So it's huge.
It's massive.
They've raised $10.8 million on GoFundMe and GoFundMe has now frozen their account a second time.
We'll see what happens there.
Logistically, they're sleeping in their trucks.
The trucks are running.
So they're running on diesel, which apparently some of the truck drivers need the diesel to keep their engines going so they can stay warm at night.
They're sleeping in their trucks.
I went into a few trucks.
People had their dogs there.
It's showering, difficult.
Going to the bathroom, difficult because there's no portal potties, but they're not defecating on the street, nor are they urinating on monuments.
And I documented that myself in real time.
And then when I say that the people are not getting angry, I went down one street talking to the people.
They offered me a sandwich, some soup, some hot dogs.
And I said, no, thanks.
I said, what are you guys doing for showering for all these things?
They said, locals who live on the street invite us in.
They offer us help.
They offer us support.
So logistically, look, it's like camping, probably like dirty camping, but it's not filth.
And everyone I asked, every trucker I asked, how long are you here for?
Their answer was all reflexively the same, as long as it takes.
And it's 20 degrees Fahrenheit right now in Canada.
So you could tell me the Celsius.
You guys use Celsius in Canada?
I think so.
I do.
I don't, I, we do Celsius.
It was minus, like minus 20 Celsius over the weekend, blistering in the Alberta portion.
It was so cold.
There's truckers out there chanting freedom, freedom.
And the camera, you know, a cameraman is panning them.
They've got frost in their beard.
It's cold.
Monday when I went, it was minus 12 Celsius, whatever that is in Fahrenheit.
And yesterday when I went, it was zero, which is, you know, very, very mild as far as we're concerned.
So when it gets cold, they sleep in their trucks.
It is, look, it's a moment of history.
And it's an honor and a privilege and like, and just good luck, good fortune that I can get there to do it to document it in real time and for all the world to see.
Negative 20 Celsius is still cold.
It's like negative four Fahrenheit.
So it's very cold.
It's cold.
And if I remember, you multiplied times nine over five just to convert from Celsius to Fahrenheit.
So I ask Siri, that's the easy way for me.
Yeah, well, then they track you, which they're already doing.
Talk briefly.
You're a citizen journalist.
How can people support you?
There's not a lot of you that are covering this right now.
I'm always reluctant to say that I'm a journalist.
I'm just, I'm a, what's the word? An analyst.
I just wanted to make sense of the world.
But when I see what I think are lies being told, I've got to go explore.
Viva Fry on YouTube, Robert Barnes, who's an American civil rights attorney, we've got a beautiful thing going.
We do live streams every Sunday where we go over all the issues of the week, interviews on Wednesdays.
We have a locals community, which is called vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
You know, there's that $5 a month thing there.
Where I'm on Twitter, where I'm a little bit more sassy just because of lack of character of tweets, not me, is the viva fry.
And I don't know what journalism is anymore.
I don't consider myself a journalist.
I just want to have discussions and understand people.
And if that's what it means, so be it.
Well, I like it.
So talk about the implications you think this will have worldwide.
It seems as if there's international attention on this.
You know, the funny thing is, it was Buddha who said there's three things that cannot long be hidden, the sun, the moon, and the truth.
At first, the media in Canada, which is largely subsidized by and bailed out through liberal federal government taxpayer dollars, at first they just totally ignored it.
This was not happening.
Then they had to report on something.
So the CBC, which is Canada broadcasting company, started reporting on a convoy of hundreds of trucks in British Columbia driving from Surrey to Vancouver, I think, which were allegedly protesting road conditions.
Now, there incidentally was a small convoy protesting road conditions in British Columbia, but this was like a form of distraction of what was actually going on in Canada, the main convoy going from British Columbia to Ottawa.
When it became too much to deny, they stealth edited their original article to add to the header.
And I noticed this because I reread the article and said, I didn't remember the header saying that.
They said this convoy is different than the one currently heading to Ottawa.
So they have to go back, rewrite history.
Then they have to address it because it's so big now, Canadians are learning about it.
And so what do they do?
They go to the way to demonize everyone and anything involved with it.
And then it starts spiraling out of control in terms of awareness.
You know, it was being covered more proactively in the United States and abroad than in Canada.
And that just, you know, it just started spreading like wildfire.
And it's an amazing thing is that there's something here that is relevant not only to Canada and Canadians, but to the entire world as relates to what citizens have been subjected to by governments across the world over the last two years.
So it's acquired a momentum of its own.
And then the second you get, you know, the Zubies of Twitter, the Elon Musks, the Russell Brands talking about it.
Yeah, you can't put this toothpaste back into the bottle.
And it's having repercussions throughout the world.
And the more the government ignores it and tries to downplay it, the more the people see it and the more enraged, politically speaking, the people get, not just in Canada, throughout the world.
Oh, I totally agree.
You know, in the book and the movie Hunger Games, which has its problems, there is this theme that is entertained that you do not allow the information to spread to the other districts, right?
That you can't allow other people in the country to actually know what's happening.
And I probably would say that more Americans are really engaged with what's happening in Ottawa than even some Canadians.
Tyrants Flee When People Rise 00:02:42
So tell me really quickly as we kind of close out this hour, is Trudeau going to go?
I mean, what's his future look like?
He's at some sort of lake house?
What's going on with Fidel's potential son, maybe?
That's a great internet meme for anybody who doesn't know.
There's some similarities there.
And a story, maybe.
And a story.
Google it, people.
For now.
Well, so here's one of the repercussions.
Aaron O'Toole, the leader of the Conservative Party, has been ousted.
And that's one outcome.
You get Justin Trudeau tweeting, oh, we thank you for your service, Aaron O'Toole.
You get Jagmeet Singh, who's the leader of the NDP, saying, it's a very hard time.
We salute you.
These leaders don't realize they're next in terms of being ousted.
They are no longer welcome in Canadian politics.
None of the political elite, the political establishment who think that they get to set rules that they don't have to abide by, who think they can lock down people while they still get their government check.
And although they're already rich from government corruption to begin with, they don't realize this is not a one-party thing.
This is a revolution, a revolt against the government that has been systematically abusing the citizens and imposing tyrannical rules that they themselves do not follow.
And I got to say, Justin Trudeau, he tucked his tail and fled like every tyrant does when the people rise up.
He's not in Ottawa.
Apparently, he, someone said he might be in the US, but I think he's in British Columbia.
You know, he's sitting there tweeting out random stuff about the Ukraine, trying to scare Putin with tweets.
It's like, you fled your own people.
You fled a convoy of the most peaceful protesters you are ever going to see.
You can't even muster the courage to address them.
Nobody internationally is going to take you seriously.
You are officially naked, politically speaking, and everyone can see it.
And it's only a matter of time before Justin Trudeau is going to either have to resign or there's going to be a vote of no confidence.
I think the same is true for Jugmeet Singh.
These are politicians who, other than being tyrannical hypocrites, have been the most fundamentally divisive politicians who have stirred up hatred and division among Canadians against Canadians, more so than anybody else in my memory.
And from what I understand, more so than anybody else in anybody's living memory.
It's a worldwide movement.
Viva Fry, thank you for your great work.
For those of you that don't know Canadian geography, British Columbia couldn't be further away.
If he was in the Yukon, then it would be really something.
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