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Denouncing The January 6th Agenda
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| Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Darren Beattie from Revolver.news goes to the truth of January 6th. | |
| Rayeps, who is he? | |
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| Here we go. | |
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| I just want to play some of this tape here, and I want to also make our position clear. | |
| I've said this earlier, and I'm going to repeat it for all the scum that watch our show, Media Matters. | |
| I don't like what happened on January 6th in regards to the property destruction. | |
| Anyone that lays a hand on a police officer should serve a prison sentence, period, hard stop. | |
| It's that simple. | |
| But I believe in the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution, and I believe that disproportionately and intentionally using the criminal justice system and security apparatus to go after political opponents, all the while you allowed Floyd Palooza to basically unfold is bad for our country. | |
| It's bad for our republic, not a democracy. | |
| And we were denouncing what happened on air right now, right here, right as it happened. | |
| In fact, we got some hate for that. | |
| Remember, Connor? | |
| We got hate from some of our listeners as we were denouncing it in regards to what was happening. | |
| Okay, AOC, never to miss an opportunity to embellish and indulge in hyperbole, said that half of the Congress could have died. | |
| Cut 77. | |
| If this was the journey that my life was taking, that I felt that things were going to be okay and that, you know, I had fulfilled my purpose. | |
| But half of, we came close to half of the house nearly dying. | |
| Half of the house nearly dying. | |
| Well, unless AOC was wearing a MAGA hat that day, then I don't know who would have shot her. | |
| Because the only person that was shot and killed was a woman wearing a MAGA hat that supported Donald Trump, Ashley Babbitt. | |
| And let us not forget Ashley Babbitt, who was shot by Lieutenant Michael Bird. | |
| That's his name, right? | |
| And we're not going to show the video or else YouTube's going to take us down on all this. | |
| You guys can see the video on yourself, Ashley Babbitt shooting. | |
| But I've seen it probably 30 times. | |
| It's super horrific. | |
| Ashley Babbitt pokes her head up through the window and gets basically executed by Michael Bird. | |
| Darren, Revolver.news does a great job. | |
| Darren Beattie, how are you doing? | |
| Great. | |
| I'm thrilled to be here. | |
| Thanks for having me, Charlie. | |
| You deserve a huge praise and thank you. | |
| You have done legitimate investigative work, and it's really extraordinary, Darren. | |
| It really is. | |
| So I just want to make sure you know that. | |
| Thank you very much. | |
| Before we get into the specifics, what's your analysis of how the media is covering this day? | |
| And just kind of just tell us your take on the significance of why we get this story right. | |
| Right. | |
| Well, it's pretty remarkable, although sadly, it's not terribly surprising how the media is covering it. | |
| The media, which is the mouthpiece of the regime, is echoing the words of Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris: that January 6th is a day that will live in infamy. | |
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Start Your Year With Free Meat
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| It's an attack on democracy because it was this giant coordinated terrorist event on the part of Trump supporters, effectively. | |
| And for that reason, they think that January 6th deserves to be uttered in the same sentence in the same realm as Pearl Harbor and September 11th, which is ludicrous, but it's also very dangerous. | |
| And it shows you what their political agenda is. | |
| If January 6th is really that serious, you can only imagine the severity of the response they're calling for for the national security state to crush Trump supporters and anyone adjacent to the alleged threat that Trump supporters and populism pose to our national security. | |
| Really well, well said, and you're right. | |
| And it's intentional. | |
| And we said in our show, of course, it's outrageous. | |
| We could have done the typical talk radio thing. | |
| We're like, oh, yeah, how dare you compare it to Pearl Harbor and 9-11? | |
| Obviously, that's easy. | |
| That's low-hanging fruit. | |
| But you make the more important point, which is they're doing that on purpose. | |
| They're doing that so then they can provoke a response that it's kind of one of those days that will live in infamy where you get a Department of Homeland Security because of 9-11. | |
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Why Proud Boys Need Ray Epps
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| Let's go to Cut 69. | |
| This was really bizarre. | |
| So, on January 5th, the day before January 6th, Ray Epps, this man who was once on the FBI's watch list, said that we need to go into the Capitol. | |
| Super oddly specific. | |
| So, here's someone that has kind of an alpha male presence, almost a military-style presence, who says, We need to go into the Capitol. | |
| He said this the night before, Cut 69. | |
| In fact, tomorrow, I don't even like to say it because I'll be arrested. | |
| Well, let's not say it. | |
| We need to go. | |
| I'll say it. | |
| We need to go in to the Capitol. | |
| We need to go into the Capitol. | |
| We need to go into the Capitol. | |
| And then they start saying Fed, Fed, Fed. | |
| And so Ray Epps has not been arrested, even though he did far more than other people that have been arrested, such as going into the Capitol, instigating and agitating, awfully specific about going into the Capitol. | |
| So the question is, who is Ray Epps? | |
| Well, Darren Beattie's been looking into that. | |
| Rand Paul asked the question, Cut 71. | |
| He questioned Merrick Garland on the Ray Epps video and the involvement of the Justice Department on January 6th, play cut 71. | |
| As far as we can determine, the individual who was saying he'll probably go to jail, he'll probably be arrested, but he wants every, but they need to go into the Capitol the next day, is then the next day directing people to the Capitol. | |
| And as far as we can find, this individual has not been charged with anything. | |
| You said this is one of the most sweeping investigations in the history. | |
| Have you seen that video or those frames from that video? | |
| So as I said at the outset, one of the norms of the Justice Department is to not comment on impending investigations. | |
| Yeah, that's just not true. | |
| They comment on pending investigations all the time. | |
| Merrick Garland literally gave a speech about a pending investigation yesterday. | |
| Now, next time, I'm going to text Tom. | |
| That was Thomas Massey, not Rand Paul. | |
| They're both from Kentucky, but whatever. | |
| So I'm going to text Thomas Massey. | |
| I'm going to say, next time, play the video. | |
| Literally make Merrick Garland watch the video of this guy, Ray Epps. | |
| And so you have this strange pattern of behavior where this guy that hasn't been arrested, hasn't been subpoenaed by the committee, was instigating and agitating and leading the activity of what happened on January the 6th. | |
| It's very suspicious. | |
| Now, what's most interesting, though, is that he was at one time on the federal government FBI's watch list for the events that surrounded January 6th. | |
| And so when he was on the January 6th website, no one really thought much of it, but then they removed him. | |
| We don't know what's happened to Ray Epps. | |
| Maybe Darren does. | |
| Who is Ray Epps? | |
| So it's a great question. | |
| Ray Epps is the singular soul, only individual in the mountains of video documentary evidence of 1.6, the only person caught dead to rights promoting an explicit mission to go into the Capitol. | |
| He did so on January 5th, the evening of January 5th, so the day before. | |
| And this wasn't just some one-off of a drunk who has a crazy idea and we don't hear from him again. | |
| No. | |
| He follows up on his stated mission the next day. | |
| He's a veritable Where's Waldo of January 6th? | |
| And if your listeners go to revolver.news and look at our first bombshell report on Epps, they can watch all the comprehensive video for themselves. | |
| He's everywhere. | |
| He's telling the crowds, after the Trump rally, be sure to go to the Capitol. | |
| Everyone's going to the Capitol. | |
| That's where our problems are. | |
| Our enemy is the Capitol. | |
| And then sure enough, right before the initial decisive breach of Capitol grounds, that video that everyone's seen of the metal barricades being busted down by rioters mowing it down, running through the barriers, right before that occurs on 12.53 p.m., Ray Epps is right there, right by the barricade. | |
| He whispers in a certain individual's ear, and that individual, two seconds later, carries on with that initial and decisive breach. | |
| And this person, Ray Epps, although, as you mentioned correctly, he was originally on the FBI's top 20 most wanted list. | |
| The FBI claimed to have tremendous interest in him. | |
| They wanted help identifying him. | |
| Then, when the internet identified who he was, there's crickets from the FBI until Revolver.news ran a major piece exposing likely FBI involvement in January 6th. | |
| Then the next day, the FBI scrubbed Epps' name and face from their public database. | |
| And the only thing that we've heard from since from FBI agents pertaining to Ray Epps is for an FBI agent of the Phoenix Field Office to deny knowledge that he even exists. | |
| So it's just like so much. | |
| What's his background? | |
| Because he seemed as if to be this kind of like alpha male figure, as you put in one of your pieces at Revolver.news. | |
| He wasn't just kind of like the chewbaker guy who was kind of a joke. | |
| This guy kind of seemed like he knew what he was doing. | |
| Oh, yes. | |
| And, you know, these are intangibles. | |
| These are subjective factors. | |
| And that's why I think it's so crucial. | |
| Our analysis is very powerful and very important. | |
| But what's so good about the Epps case is that the video really sells itself. | |
| And I think if anyone who has, you know, an objective approach to the issue, I challenge you, go and watch the video itself. | |
| It's on the Revolver.news report and then ask yourself whether this makes any sense. | |
| Because it's one thing to get caught up in the emotions of a riled up crowd and just go wild and get into a frenzy. | |
| The case of Ray Epps and certain other key individuals we cover in our report is quite the opposite. | |
| He's cool. | |
| He's detached. | |
| He's cold. | |
| He's methodical. | |
| He is professional. | |
| He conducts himself like a professional doing a job who wants to do no more and no less. | |
| He repeatedly encourages people to take certain precautions. | |
| He wants them to go into the Capitol, but he doesn't want them to get hurt. | |
| One guy he talks to right before the initial breach, he's known to researchers as Maroon Proud Boy. | |
| Ray Epps tells him, leave this here before we go in. | |
| I don't want you to get shot. | |
| So that acknowledges that Ray Epps knew people are going into the Capitol, but he's there to do a job, and that's to get people into the Capitol. | |
| And he doesn't want any more damage than necessary. | |
| Leave this here. | |
| I don't want you to get shot. | |
| Just throughout the entire event, he's cool. | |
| He's calm. | |
| He's collected. | |
| He's detached. | |
| He's methodical. | |
| He's a professional doing a job. | |
| Yeah, it was surgical. | |
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| Darren, tell us about the Ray Epps Gate Proud Boys issue. | |
| I got part of it, but build that out for our audience. | |
| The official story of January 6th basically says that the whole event, that initial breach that I mentioned, where Ray Epps was right there at the barricades, that's for the most part attributed to the Proud Boys who arrive at the Peace Monument by the Capitol. | |
| And that's, you know, that's the full story. | |
| Well, the bombshell piece that Revolver.news ran tells a dramatically different story and we tell it with unquestionable video evidence. | |
| And that is this: we identify key players who go on to play decisive, essential roles in cutting down fencing, removing fencing, breaking down barriers, instigating the crowd. | |
| And all of these people are hanging out, coincidentally, perhaps, hanging out right by the peace monument before the Proud Boys even get there. | |
| They're all at the same place, and they all go on to play decisive, key roles in engineering a situation such that January 6th can turn from a rally into a riot. | |
| And I think it's very plausible that, you know, the Proud Boys is itself a heavily infiltrated group. | |
| We know that its head, Enrique Tario, has a history of being an FBI informant. | |
| We know that Joe Biggs, who leads the Proud Boy contingent to the Peace Monument, where the other individuals I just mentioned are already hanging out. | |
| Joe Biggs has admitted that he's in regular communication with the FBI to give the FBI visibility as to the Proud Boys' activities. | |
| So I think it's very likely that the feds knew that the Proud Boys were going to be at this specific location at a specific time. | |
| The feds called various informants and agents and people working for them and said, we need you to be there too to help amplify and intensify whatever is going on. | |
| And I think that's the best explanation to account for the fact that not only are there a bunch of these players unmentioned by the media who play decisive roles, as I mentioned, but that all of these people were loitering at the same place that the Proud Boys got to before the Proud Boys got there. | |
| And they play the part in this initial breach. | |
| And so I think that's what's significant for people to understand. | |
| Beside the fact that all of this occurred, very important, all of this occurred far before Trump's speech even ended. | |
| So all of these shenanigans are going on while the crowd is still far away from the Capitol, listening to Trump, going about their business, being peaceful. | |
| But a whole different story was happening by the Capitol, setting the table for the event to turn out the way it did. | |
| And the people who are the key table setters, as I mentioned, are unindicted, unapprehended, in many cases, not even searched. | |
| And in one case, we know that the feds know who the guy is, and he's still not arrested, apprehended. | |
| And so those are really the most damning and pressing open questions that must be answered by officials like Merrick Garland if he would dare to do so. | |
| Yeah, even more than that. | |
| I mean, we still don't know the full extent. | |
| And just so everyone knows, if you look at the map, and that was a great explanation, that's on the northwest corner, if I'm not mistaken. | |
| And so it would have been the proud boys that were marching down Pennsylvania Avenue or in a Kinn Street to it. | |
| And then that's where Ray Epps was doing all these weird games with the gates, as if he was trying to provoke and instigate, you know, trying to get people to go to that next interval up. | |
| I want to get into the pipe bomb issue with you, which I think is really interesting that you have also been covering. | |
| But let me ask you just in one minute, have you started to see a change in how some conservatives are talking about this? | |
| Because when you first probably started about this, people were pretty hands-off. | |
| Are you starting to see the Overton window change a little bit? | |
| You know, that's a great question. | |
| And unfortunately, not everyone is sort of as brave and discerning as you are. | |
| And, you know, I give you tremendous credit for really having the discernment and courage to pick this up from the very beginning. | |
| And there are very few people who fit into that category. | |
| Tucker, Carlson, Steve Dannon, a handful of others. | |
| As for the Overton window, one thing I've found to be tremendously encouraging is actually people who are traditionally associated with the left, but who understand the history of the government performing exactly these types of operations have embraced revolvers reporting. | |
| So Glenn Greenwald has been a big champion of our reporting. | |
| Just earlier today, I did a podcast session with Aaron Matte of the Gray Zone, who's also somebody of the left and a leftist critic of the national security state. | |
| As for kind of mainstream conservatism, and in certain cases, I mean, it's not a clear definition as to what constitutes mainstream, but I was very encouraged that Mike Huckabee did cover our reporting. | |
| Glenn Beck has had me on several times, and I'm grateful for that. | |
| And many congressmen from Thomas Massey, who's generally quite strong. | |
| And of course, we have our fighters like Matt Gates, MTG, and so forth. | |
| And so we've got a good group of people covering it. | |
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Disappointed By Ted Cruz's Silence
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| I was very disappointed, though, the other day to hear what Ted Cruz had to say about the event, in which he completely, it wasn't only that he refused to cover the revolvers reporting indicating the likelihood of federal involvement. | |
| It's that he completely leaned into the left and regime's narrative of January 6th as this large-scale, evil terrorist event of MAGA people. | |
| So that's an area where I think we should be rightly disappointed, if not surprised, certainly disappointed. | |
| Yeah, and you've seen Thomas Massey, who's been really good. | |
| He's used your reporting directly in a hearing, Rand Paul as well. | |
| You're seeing a really interesting coalition that you articulated of libertarians that you and I aren't always playing nice with on certain issues, like on trade and immigration, that have been really good on this, actually, because they've actually been through the security state being used to weaponize dissident groups. | |
| Okay, so now I want to ask you, who planted the pipe bombs, Darren? | |
| That's a great question. | |
| And I'm really glad that this issue is sort of revived itself on the anniversary of January 6th, because I think talk about the pipe. | |
| There's so much going on that it's understandable the pipeline, the pipe bomb people would forget about it. | |
| And we still don't know who planted the pipe bombs, but there are some relevant factors that I would like to enter into the discussion to discourse that are covered more extensively in a Revolver.news piece, specifically on the pipe bomb that we put out shortly after the pipe bomb issue was a thing in the media. | |
| Now, one thing I think is important to note to tie it in with the Rayeps breach and everything like that is that the word of the existence of these pipe, the pipe bombs at the RNC and the DNC buildings, the word spread almost simultaneously to the initial breach of the Capitol grounds, which is quite remarkable. | |
| And it was remarkable because, whether intentional or not, it was the perfect diversionary event to marshal what limited law enforcement resources existed at the time at the breach location to have them go and tend to this so-called pipe bomb threat just at that decisive minutes of the initial breach. | |
| The timing is interesting enough that I think it's worth remarking upon, even though I can't say anything definitive based on the timing. | |
| Maybe it's just a coincidence. | |
| Another thing that I think is really interesting about this pipe bomb, and again, it's covered extensively in the Revolver report on it, is it's very clear that despite the FBI's claim that they're so interested in getting to the bottom of this, all they release is very truncated, abbreviated, selective, highly distorted, grainy footage. | |
| Now, there's no way that they don't have more footage of this alleged pipe bomber. | |
| There's no way they don't have more evidence, forensic evidence, fingerprints, all kinds of things that they can release to the public. | |
| And so I think it's worth pointing out just the discrepancy of how they claim to be so interested in finding out who this person is, and yet they don't give the public any reasonable basis on which to make that identification, even though we know that they have more information they're putting out. | |
| And it's worth comparing that to the way that the feds initially responded to Rayeps. | |
| Remember, we covered the fact that right after Ray Eps, they put him on their most wanted list. | |
| They said, We need your help, Americans, in identifying this man. | |
| And sure enough, the internet sleuths identified who he was, and the feds were not interested. | |
| I think you see a similar type of charade here with the pipe bomb scenario, where this kind of false display of interest that really does not comport with the level of information that they've given to the public that could be very useful. | |
| And there's a final point, and that is this. | |
| Initially, the person who was appearing in all these public pronouncements saying we need your help in identifying this guy, it's a very interesting individual. | |
| His name is Stephen D'Antuono. | |
| Now, he was calling for help identifying the pipe bomber in his capacity as an agent of the DC FBI field office. | |
| But what many people don't know is just weeks before that, he had a different role and a very important role. | |
| And that is that he headed up the Detroit FBI field office, where he was the guy leading the infiltration operation into what is usually known as the Michigan kidnapping plot. | |
| A plot that we now know is overwhelmingly infiltrated by the feds that has such a strong entrapment case that the defense counsel for the defendants there are using an entrapment defense. | |
| We know that 12 out of the 26 of these so-called plotters were either informants or agents. | |
| And it's conveniently the guy who oversaw all of that in his new capacity as the investigator for January 6th, calling for information about the pipe bombs. | |
| Give me a break. | |
| And to add to that, there's a couple very obvious things about the pipe bomb story that never made sense to me, which is they weren't detonated, which thankfully, but that's interesting, but they were placed. | |
| Right. | |
| It's both the RNC and the DNC. | |
| Right. | |
| So it was both parties. | |
| And the person who put the pipe bombs, we never triangulated their position with the cell phone. | |
| Is that right? | |
| Presumably, like, who knows what the feds have done themselves, but that just goes to show there's a tremendous amount of information that could be useful to the public in identifying this person that has not been made public. | |
| And so it really calls into question the sincerity of the FBI when it says, We really need your help. | |
| We really have an interest in identifying this person. | |
| And we've seen this pattern before with Ray Epps and others, this kind of false, performative gesture of, oh, we really want to get to the bottom of it, where every other indication shows that they have zero interest in getting to the bottom of it, possibly because the actual truth of it is very damning to these agencies themselves. | |
| Yeah, I mean, so what would potentially want to speculate what it could be, but you know, if someone's going to call January 6 a terrorist attack, the only thing that could really justify is planting bombs at a political office. | |
| I mean, I want to know who did that. | |
| And if it wasn't, if it was just faulty bombs that were planted to try to create a diversionary attack or to try to create a different news story, it's so it's it's a it's its own universe from what happened at the Capitol, right? | |
| It right. | |
| I don't even want to speculate because we don't know, but if you're looking at this just objectively, it looks as if it might have been a right-hand, left-hand thing. | |
| It might have been just some sort of operation that went wrong. | |
| But you would think that with all the technology at our disposal, we'd be able to find the people that did that. | |
| It's really stunning. | |
| So I want to ask you, Darren, in closing, we have about three to four minutes left here. | |
| Kind of more broadly, you've been on the leading charge of really discovering and revealing this. | |
| Do you think there's more? | |
| Does your intuition, does your suspicion believe that there's even more that you have not yet, let's say, verified in regards to the federal government's involvement on 16? | |
| Oh, absolutely. | |
| I mean, there's There's more in just things that our research team has discovered that we simply haven't had time to put in publishable form yet. | |
| There's absolutely more. | |
| It's just as, in some cases, even more damning than what we've already reported. | |
| And as for what we've already reported, there's a lot more in this sense, that this story now has enough weight and momentum that it's not going away. | |
| And I'm tremendously encouraged by the fact that the defense counsels in many of the January 6th cases have taken Revolver's investigative reporting seriously and have taken the steps to use their legal authority to subpoena people like Ray Epps, to subpoena people like Stuart Rose, because we all know that we're never going to get that from the January 6th Committee, at least in its present composition. | |
| And so the best bet to actually getting to the truth of these characters that are already covered extensively and we know there's something suspicious, we need answers, we can get this from the Defense Council using their legal authorities. | |
| And an off chance, I've said this before publicly, and I think it's worth saying again, we have people like Ray Epps. | |
| We have other people who likely have a story to tell. | |
| And the feds and their handlers, in many cases, they treat their informants and even some agents like Pons, and they're deceived as well. | |
| And I think there's a good chance that if not Ray Epps, some of these people are having a crisis in conscience or they feel tricked or what they ended up partaking in turned out to be not what they wanted to partake in. | |
| And I would call on at least one of these people to step forward, do the right thing. | |
| You're now involved and complicit in one of the biggest scandals in American history, and you have the opportunity to become one of the biggest American hero whistleblowers in American history. | |
| So I hope at least one person will do the right thing, stand up, speak out, and tell the American people the truth that they deserve to hear. | |
| The truth will come out. | |
| And if Republicans take back the majority, I said this to Kevin McCarthy. | |
| I said, you need to have a church and pike committee. | |
| It is out of control. | |
| You have to get to the bottom of this. | |
| There will be somebody, a secretary, a desk worker, an email that will show that there was some sort of concerted effort to instigate or to propel forward. | |
| And the Ray Apps, the Ray Apps video, which you found, Darren, is like as close to a smoking gun as you can get, where you repeatedly say the night before, we have to go into the Capitol, we have to go to the Capitol. | |
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| So if this is Pearl Harbor, then we have a video of the general of the armed forces of Japan saying we're going to go bomb Hawaii. | |
| That would probably, if it is, right? | |
| Under the new rules of engagement of the regime, you have a video of someone saying they want to do the man. | |
| I would think that would probably be important. | |
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| We got an email, Darren, which is a compliment. | |
| Someone says, please tell this guy to get a bodyguard because you're barking up some pretty powerful trees here, Darren. | |
| You really are. | |
| But we have your back. | |
| You have a home here to be able to break the news and explore it factually. | |
| And Darren, you've also been super disciplined. | |
| I want to compliment you to not overly speculate. | |
| It's tempting to want to do that. | |
| It's tempting to want to use buzzwords that are always trying to get clicks, but you've been so focused on the reporting. | |
| You're doing a great job. | |
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| Thanks so much. | |
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| It's literally theater. | |
| Nancy Pelosi has, I want to make sure I get this right. | |
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| It's almost hard to believe. | |
| Nancy Pelosi has called out the cast of Hamilton to sing Broadway on the January for her January 6th Memorial. | |
| Am I reading that right? | |
| It's literally theater. | |
| Part of her January 6th remembrance is a song by Lynn Manuel Miranda performed by the cast of Hamilton. | |
| If they only knew anything about Alexander Hamilton, I think that would probably change their opinion, but they don't really care, obviously. | |
| That was a great conversation with Darren Beattie, and he really is doing a great job. | |
| And he brought up a really interesting point. | |
| And Glenn Greenwald is someone that I've been emailing back and forth with. | |
| I really want to get on the program for a different reason because Glenn Greenwald has been part of someone who has really changed my perspective and my opinion on a lot of different issues, especially when it comes to domestic surveillance. | |
| And he's been very consistent on this. | |
| And he was the one, just so everyone knows, Glenn Greenwald worked for the intercept or the Guardian. | |
| Where's Connor? | |
| I can't see him. | |
| One of the two. | |
| I think it was the Intercept. | |
| The Guardian. | |
| It was The Guardian. | |
| You're right. | |
| It was The Guardian. | |
| And Andrew says it was the Intercept. | |
| Okay, so maybe it was both. | |
| Who knows? | |
| All right. | |
| The point is that Glenn Greenwald was the guy that was with Edward Snowden in Hong Kong or Singapore or Malaysia or whatever when Edward Snowden fled Hawaii, had all the uploads of documents from the NSA, and really showed in phenomenal detail the power of the domestic surveillance apparatus. | |
| And again, I always kind of took more of a national security side, like, oh, we need this to keep ourselves safe. | |
| And then you saw the corruption with the FISA courts. | |
| You start to see what these federal agencies are capable of. | |
| You see John Brennan saying that we should use the national security apparatus to go after Christians, religious fundamentalists. | |
| I'm one of those, I guess, whatever that means, religious fundamentalist. | |
| And you start to say, wait a second, if we're really in the business of constitutional guardianship and respect for the rule of law and individual liberty, then we need to say, we don't believe that these federal agencies should just be able to run roughshod over the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, due process. | |
| And that's precisely what happened. | |
| But what Darren Beattie was articulating that I found to be really profound is that there is kind of this fusionism that's happening between people that care about civil liberties and care about restraining the size and scope of the federal government and its potential abuses, especially when it comes to the security apparatus against domestic political organizations and kind of Trump supporters. | |
| And this is something that kind of Trump's instincts were always right about. | |
| Obviously, Trump was largely targeted by the domestic security apparatus. | |
| He was spied on by the FBI. | |
| Michael Flynn was entrapped by Peter Struckstroke Smirk and Peter Struckstroke Smirk with his lover and him being an adulterer with Lisa Page went after the entire Trump regime before they basically even started within like two weeks. | |
| And that very same intelligence agency, we shouldn't be stunned if they were trying to do whatever they could. | |
| There's so many questions. | |
| And Darren worded it right. | |
| We don't know. | |
| There's a lot we don't know. | |
| Maybe Ray Epps was just one of the instigators, but it really does beg the question of why hasn't he been arrested? | |
| Why was he removed from the FBI site as Darren Beattie broke the story? | |
| Like, who is this guy? | |
| And why don't we have elected officials? | |
| And if they want to get to the bottom of January 6th, which I'm all for, by the way, I want to get to the bottom of it. | |
| I want to know who planted the pipe bombs. | |
| I think it's awful. | |
| You plant pipe bombs on a political party's office? | |
| You should be arrested for that. | |
| We don't know who it is. | |
| No suspects, no updates, no information, nothing. | |
| Kind of like the Las Vegas shooter. | |
| Largest mass shooting in American history. | |
| No motive. | |
| No idea why he did it. | |
| Case closed. | |
| Go find another. | |
| Go get a life is what we were basically told. | |
| Okay. | |
| Very few people are willing to actually do the research and get to the bottom of it. | |
| So you kind of got the three big ones. | |
| Darren Beattie, Julie Kelly, Ben Weitgarten. | |
| But Darren's definitely been the one that's been on this Ray Epps potential federal involvement on it. | |
| If you guys want to support, again, it's Revolver.news. | |
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