BLM & The Salvation Army's Sinister Attacks on Christmas in America
On this special Bonus Saturday Episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, Charlie and Producer Andrew are joined yet again by two great friends of the show, Congressman Diane Black and her husband, Dave from 'Second Vote' to talk about the ongoing fight against the "Woke" Corporate Regime in America. They talk about the disappointing newfound racism of The Salvation Army, CVS adopting CRT, and the latest announcement that Google—to literally no one's surprise—is planning on firing all unvaccinated employees by the start of next year. They also go through the cultural marxist warfare ramping up this Christmas Season, with BLM and their corporate cronies calling on Americans to reject White-Owned businesses when they do their holiday shopping. Learn more about the incredibly crucial work being done by the team at Second Vote and do your part to fight back against Woke Corporations by going to SecondVote.com and use promo code 'CHARLIE' for a special discount on your subscription to their incredible service.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hey, everybody.
Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
With us again is our friends from Second Vote, the Blacks.
They do amazing work.
And also, co-piloting with us is producer Andrew, who's a big Relief Actor fan.
Say hi, Andrew.
Hey, everybody.
Glad to be here.
He is the mascot of Relief Factor and also the co-pilot today.
So much we want to get into.
And our audience just loves these segments.
I've loved this partnership with Second Vote.
It's so important.
And let's just kind of, some people have been listening to every episode we've done.
Some people are going to be listening to this as their first episode.
Talk a little bit, guys, about what you mean by second vote, about how the first vote you have is in the ballot box and your second vote is actually in all the products that you buy.
Yeah, the well, we have several ways we say it, but yes, the first vote is in the ballot box.
The second vote is with your wallet, and it is the dollar you spend or donate or invest.
And we can make a difference.
Exposing Corporate Racism00:15:40
We can push back if we just are educated and wise in how we handle our treasure.
And the left knows this, but the left is much better at boycotts and intimidation.
We have a large body of conservatives and Christians that if we just pay attention to our dollars, we can make a huge difference on this radical leftist agenda that's just come to full bloom under President Biden.
And Charlie, I think, you know, the important thing about this for us is that folks don't really realize until you expose this about where their dollars go to when they buy a product and how that company that they're supporting is supporting things that they would never support with their dollars.
So this is a way to wake people up, give them an opportunity to know the truth, and then they can make those choices and decisions about where their dollars really go.
I think it's so important.
So let's get into some of the ones that we're talking about for this month.
Salvation Army.
We did an entire episode on the Salvation Army.
There's some good news because they retracted their policy.
I still think people should boycott them because I think that they're apologizing that they got caught.
I don't think they're apologizing for the statement, but the rescinding of the statement was a win.
Tell us what's going on with Salvation Army.
The nice people that are always ringing bells at Christmas, they've gone woke.
Well, personally, I think they lost their Bible.
I don't know where I don't know what chapter in scripture this particular behavior comes from.
But yeah, they went full-blown woke.
And it's just been it.
Well, I think what's equally troubling is, as you just mentioned, how they responded to the criticism.
You're right.
I think they got caught and then they apologize for an internal document becoming revealed publicly.
I think the issue is we need to demand that they disband this social justice committee.
This is where the trouble comes from.
That's so true.
They'd like the diversity office in the companies or these ad hoc committees or formal committees there now.
But to be asking Salvation Army employees, these people who are out there ringing bells or responding to disasters to apologize for white racism.
And if you don't feel like you're a white racist, then you got to apologize for everybody else who's white and is a allegedly a racist.
This is just racism.
That's exactly right.
And I don't disagree with any of what you said, although I do think we ought to take a little bit of credit for the fact that we expose them.
Oh, totally.
And cause them.
Yes.
It's a big win to get them to rescind it.
I think it's a big win.
Yes.
And we have to stay on top of that.
We can't let that go.
We've got to watch them and hold them to what they've now said they're going to do and be sure they're doing it.
Well, and also, just so you know, you know, one of the things about Second Vote is through our website, you can contact these organizations directly.
And we've had a lot of folks and a lot of our new subscribers from your show contacting Salvation Army through our website and pushing back.
And yes, I think they're hearing it from all sides, but they're definitely hearing it from your followers and the folks that are now coming to Second Vote because of you.
And it was a really interesting thing.
So they issued this back in the summer and no one really cared about it because the Salvation Army really ramps up near Christmas because a lot of retailers allow the Salvation Army to come and ring their bells and to collect change and money.
And the people that do it are really nice and entertaining and honestly really good people.
But then I think it was the Daily Wire that kind of broke the story.
They went back into it and said, wait a second, now that Christmas is here, you should know about this.
And at first, the Salvation Army, they held the line.
And then all of a sudden they realized the massive backlash.
And you're right.
We should celebrate in one sense where the Salvation Army saw wokeism as a charitable liability.
That's a big deal because not every company is doing that.
But at least in the immediate, they said, hey, if we embrace this nonsense, which they say it was like a left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
That's probably true in an organization like that, where they have this diversity committee off to the side, but a good CEO would never tolerate that.
And so just talk, you want to comment on that, Mr. Black?
Well, yeah, I think what's really ironic here, you know, first of all, appeasement with the radical left never works.
I don't know why these people choose to do these things.
I don't know if they're just trying to play nice, but you may recall that just before Target announced its transgender bathroom policy, it was the season prior that they banned all target bell ringers from in front of their stores murder to Christmas.
So, you know, here you here you go.
You start dancing with the devil and you end up, it never works out well.
And that's what Salvation Army has done.
They have moved away from their foundational values, looking to, I guess, be relevant to the current craziness and relevant, unfortunately, in a very negative way.
Yeah.
And it's important because people need to know, CEOs and heads of charities, there is a price to this.
It's not just bad ideas.
And that's why I said on our show, boycott Salvation Army, but still give generously.
There's so many good charities.
There's so many people that help individuals in need.
And if all of a sudden, and by the way, I just want our audience to know what the Salvation Army issued was an incredibly detailed and just radical manual.
This wasn't just like a tweet by some intern.
This was in-depth, which it recommended readings from Ibram X. Kendi, Robin D'Angelo.
It says that people must atone for their whiteness.
It went even further to say that we must eliminate or challenge white culture.
And so it was extraordinary.
Andrew, do you have some thoughts on that?
Yeah, I think it's important that we actually read some of what this document actually said.
So the guide was called Let's Talk About Racism.
And it was actually released all the way back in April.
You said summer earlier, you were pretty close to the mark.
April, it's been a long time.
And no one cared because Salvation Army is really kind of a December fixture in the American culture.
No, absolutely.
So it was the supposed purpose here was to provide an internal dialogue on the issues of racism among members of the Salvation Army.
I mean, I've met people from the Salvation Army many, many times.
Never was that my takeaway that there was like this, you know, underground of deep, bitter racists in the Salvation Army.
So this is the direct quote.
While many salvationists have acted firmly and courageously against racism, the Salvation Army acknowledges with regret that salvationists have sometimes shared in the sins of racism and conformed to economic, organizational, and social pressures that perpetuate racism.
And here's the kicker.
It says, white culture has challenges it needs to overcome, including denial of racism, defensiveness about race, and states that white Americans need to stop trying to be colorblind.
And I mean, I mean, it's just, it's all about this colorblindness, which, you know, I don't think we should ignore that certain cultures have different aspects or attributes or elements.
But at the end of the day, I think what this outcry is about is that we should all be Americans first.
That's our culture, right?
And it seems like the progressives and the Wokesters and these, you know, this word that they use, Justice Commission, it's the, this is from the Army International Social Justice Commission.
And it's like, of course, we all love justice, but not like this, we don't, right?
When they use those words, the last thing they're looking for is balanced justice or the kind of justice you and how we use the word.
They use words in a way that sound good, but their actions are in conflict 180 degrees.
No, Piam, go ahead.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
I was just going to say this idea now that being colorblind is racist is unbelievable.
You know, we are told that we're supposed to look at people's character and who they are and not look at their skin.
And now what we're being told is, well, if you do that, now you're a racist.
They turn the world upside.
This is like, I'm increasingly calling common nonsense.
You know, Thomas Paine gave us common sense.
This is all giving us common nonsense.
Well, and so there's an article, and I don't want to celebrate this because it's actually kind of sad, but it's good in the sense that the organization realizes there's a cost.
I hope the essence of this story I'm about to read is diverted resources, not withheld resources.
Salvation Army facing historic toy and donation shortage ahead of the holidays.
And so people got the word out.
And by the way, charities are having record years.
Charities are doing very well.
A lot of people seeking deductions.
And so I could only possibly, you know, infer that the Salvation Army is now saying, like, wow, maybe we shouldn't have given some 26-year-old recent graduate from Brown all this power.
Well, I will say, as an adult, I have never walked by a Salvation Army kettle without putting something in it.
And I don't care how many times during the Christmas season I do that.
And this news broke also, just as we were getting ready to write our annual big check to the Salvation Army, and we did not do that.
I'm not going to do that.
You can't support this version of racism.
They call it, they allege that they're dealing with racism.
They are actually fomenting or fermenting racism.
Yes, I totally agree.
Andrew?
Yeah, I mean, I think we've hit this one.
The Salvation Army is they're not out of the woods yet, and nor should they be.
I think this is a massive betrayal to its donors.
And I'd say they've got a long road to come back from now.
And, you know, unfortunately, it's a proud organization with a long, great history.
And this should be a cautionary tale to any other organizations that think they need to give some C-suite executive $400,000 to come up with ways to ruin their brand.
So unfortunately, that's the result here.
Yeah.
And just remember, we always have a great alternative at Samaritan's Purse.
That's right.
Hey, well said are a ministry that is not going to fall.
Franklin Graham, the Graham family, they're not going to fall to this.
Yeah, they've held the line really well.
So, Andrew, what else we got on the docket?
Yeah, we got CVS and CRT.
Now, this is a story that we have not covered on the Charlie Kirk show.
So I'm excited for you guys to give us a little backstory.
What the heck is going on at CVS?
Well, one thing CVS is doing is diverting a heck of a lot of dollars, dollars that could be better spent.
I think the number I read was $600 million.
They're putting into this program of educating 100% of their employees on the same kind of nonsense that's gone on at Salvation Army.
It's to overcome this alleged ingrained whiteness racism.
And they are going through all the CRT motions at CVS, which for us is very difficult at Second Vote because they have scored well for us.
And now we'll have to put them under review.
We're going to have to rescore.
But they've been a good alternative.
But this is another example of corporate executives trying to appease the left.
But the six, you imagine that, $600 million, I believe is what I read.
They're going to put into this training program for all of their employees.
It's just an outrageous amount of money that could be better spent on salary or wage increases or benefits or return on investment to investors.
But to use the money in this form and fashion and to be telling a very large percentage of their employees that you are inherently racist.
You know, it's the same story, just a different organization.
And Charlie, we appreciate the fact that we can get this message out through you, where you have so many listeners that can take action.
I mean, they can go on the site, they can send a message directly to CVS and let them know that they're disappointed.
And I've said this before, you know, when I was previously in Congress, if we got five, ten calls on something, we knew we had a lot of angry people, and that's all it takes.
It just takes a small number of people letting CVS know that they're disappointed and they're not going to shop there anymore.
That's exactly right.
And we are going to have a contact CVS campaign, just as we've done for Salvation Army.
We're going to push this hard.
Dr. Black, you know, I would love for you guys to also make an addition to that.
So I, back when I had COVID, this was last year in the winter.
I went to CVS to get my prescription filled for HCQ.
I had a doctor that's friends of the show write me a prescription for it, and CVS would not fill it.
And I mean, you would not now, granted, I live in People Republic.
Yeah, HCQ.
I live in the People's Republic of California, but guess who would fill it?
Walgreens.
So I know that Walgreens gets a better score than CVS on second vote.
I don't know if this is a regional thing or if this was just my own personal experience, but I, you know, I personally was never going to Walgreens to get my prescriptions.
But in this instance, they would not fill it, even though I had a doctor's order, which apparently you would know better than I would, but they're not supposed to be able to override my doctors, is the way I understood it.
I am surprised by so many aspects of what's going on with COVID.
This is not medicine.
This is not science.
This is not a patient-doctor relationship.
This is nothing at all of what I've been engaged in.
And Diane, as a nurse, has been engaged in for all of our careers.
It just, there is a political aspect to all of COVID in so many different ways that is unhealthy to the practice of medicine and to the patient-doctor sacred relationship, which we used to have.
And that's been torn apart by this policies at the federal, local, and state level.
And I'm sorry to learn that you had that difficulty.
I know folks have been did obtain it, but people have been obtaining it by contacting doctors in other or pharmacies in other jurisdictions.
Yeah, absolutely.
And we've heard similar stories on Ivermectin, for example, and much more.
Now, I don't want to put you guys on the spot too much here because we didn't prep this one and it's just breaking news.
However, we just came across the wire.
Google announces it will fire all unvaccinated employees, just broke, as we're conducting this interview.
Not surprising with Google, of course.
Silicon Valley Censorship00:05:18
You know, we can't score them, I don't think, any worse than what they're scored.
I was going to say, aren't they a one already?
Yes, they are.
I mean, we could go back and try to score the blower, but I think we need to help us arrow in the ranking system here as well.
But what is going on here with these big corporations?
You know, these big international corporations, which were founded in the United States, they're no longer red, white, and blue.
They're just all green.
That's all they care about.
It's green and power.
And what is it with the, I mean, they are really adopting and acting as if they are a government agency, but a tyrannical government agency.
Yes.
This is, you know, they're not red, white, and blue government kind of private business.
This is communism, socialism.
Well, and Charlie can speak to this probably better than I can, but Twitter also just came out with a new user, I guess, policy that you are not allowed to now tweet that the vaccinated are capable of shedding the virus and infecting the thought crime.
Yeah, even though that's science.
And as a matter of fact, somebody tweeted out that Rochelle Walensky, the CDC director, would then have to be banned from Twitter because she's tweeted the same fact.
Yeah.
You know, again, it's, you know, I always go back to Joe Biden in Iowa during the presidential campaign, where he says, we believe in the truth, not facts.
And the truth today is now what we say it is.
By the way, that's on film.
You can read his lips as well as the voice.
But that's what the left believes.
The truth is what we say the truth is, not facts.
And this begs the issue of natural immunity.
Why do they continue to demand vaccinations of people who were infected with COVID?
They have a far superior immune response with natural immunity, and yet there's still an insistence on a vaccination.
This is not science.
This is not medicine.
This is control.
And this is not America.
And I think more important than anything is the fact that this is not America.
You're right.
It's Silicon Valley.
It's this whole other country.
Well, and obviously the intention behind it is either to pander to these corporations or to kind of each side has their back, if you notice that.
Pfizer spends a bunch of money on Google advertising.
You know, the government needs Pfizer and all the people inside for handouts.
And then in kind of response, Google will censor the information that might disrupt Pfizer's profit schemes.
And then they just reparlay that into advertising dollars, which is 100% deductible, as both of you know, under the U.S. tax code, right?
So a lot of this is kind of an a quid pro quo, I'm going to look out for you type relationship and kind of insert it into all of that.
The way that they have been able to kind of calm any criticism of their corporate dominance is largely because of their embrace of this wokeism.
Is that people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders?
Have you noticed they've kind of tampered down their corporate criticism in the last couple of years because they see that it's a it's a it's a um it's at least a temporary ATM or piggy bank for a lot of their left-wing social causes.
Absolutely.
But just take one step back, just so people so the audience understands the developers of the polio vaccine donated their research and their discoveries.
They did not profit.
In fact, they were quoted as saying what they developed belongs to the people.
And all we see today is a big money grab that's just making big businesses bigger and richer.
But absolutely, big business and big government walk hand in hand and both are dangerous.
And they're especially dangerous as they get closer and closer to each other.
And but that's always, it's always been true, but it's becoming more evident and it's becoming, I think, more sinister by the manner in which this is playing out.
Yeah, unfortunately.
Andrew, what else do we have on deck?
Well, it's sort of related.
And I know that was an aside here.
It looks like just to put a bow on that, that it's like January 18th is when they are going to be fired by Google.
So just so they're going to lose pay and then eventually their jobs.
And so that's Silicon Valley for you.
In related news, and this one hits close to home here at the Charlie Kirk show, because we interviewed Kyle Rittenhouse.
We were actually the second interview.
So he did Tucker, our friend Tucker, who's actually going to be back on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast shortly, right, Charlie?
Yep, that's right.
Coming up here soon.
We're going to have Tucker back on.
So anyways, Kyle did the Tucker, did Tucker Carlson tonight, then came on our show.
Narrative Over Facts00:03:06
And there, you know, and we covered this then, but it's a fascinating story about big tech cited in that case before the jury had made its decision.
So maybe give us a little bit of the backstory there to remind our audience.
Well, I mean, from day one, from day one, politicians, big, the usual suspects, and big tech convicted Kyle Rittenhouse before any trial was had, before facts were presented.
Again, they believe in the truth as they present it.
But as a forensic scientist, I've spent a lot of time in the courtroom.
And I've never been involved in a legal case where as it played out in the courtroom, you didn't learn facts not yet understood.
There could be a lot of investigation, but from the playback, from the play of the prosecutor and the defense, a picture emerges and information is revealed.
Sometimes information is withheld.
But in this case, even from the beginning, the videos, unless they were redacted and tampered with, showed a pretty good case of an individual who was defending himself.
But here's the jury now who gets the chance to listen to hours and hours and hours and hours and hours of testimony.
They hear the detail.
They hear the first person.
And not surprising, after listening to facts, the jury reached a conclusion based on truth.
I was surprised by the verdicts.
I mean, I thought there's no way that this couldn't go to acquittal.
But I mean, listen, we're living in 2021.
We have no idea what's going to happen half the time, right?
There's a lot of pressure on these juries.
And yeah, it was, I think, I think it was irresponsible to allow the protests outside the courthouse, which could have been heard by the jury and probably was heard by the jury.
The potential for intimidation was great.
I admire this jury tremendously.
I think we should all really lift these folks up for listening to the facts and trying to reach the truth as they understood it to reach their verdict.
And that gives me really confidence that not, you know, the general public for the most part is not woke.
What we're seeing is these big corporations and we're seeing people with loud microphones that have the press's attention.
But when you actually saw these jurors do what they needed to do, they came up with the right decision and they had a lot of pressure on them.
So I'm encouraged that Middle America, the everyday person, is still awake.
And I think they are listening.
I think we are seeing them stand up.
And we're hoping that our program helps them to find a way to get the background and to be able to articulate why it is that we all have to stand up to what's going on in this woke society.
Big Tech Show Trial00:02:24
Yeah, and it really was narrative over facts.
And, you know, I got to know Kyle really well.
And they tried, I'm telling you, if there would have been any just sliver of path for them to put him in jail for the rest of his life, they would have taken it.
And thankfully, there was exculpatory evidence that was even withheld.
And it really is unfortunate that they're willing to, in some ways, offer as a living sacrifice to the woke gods, a teenager to try and fit a narrative.
That's basically what Kyle became: this is going to be a simulated show trial, right?
And no matter what it says, we need to get someone in jail who is of white skin color, who has a gun.
And they're the ones that racialized it, by the way.
We're not.
They've said this out loud.
And it's really, it was really disturbing the lack of adjustment so many people in the media had.
Some people even came out and said, Yeah, okay, I used to think you've done people down the streets, but and now I don't.
But the doubling and the tripling down shows that all they have is a narrative.
And if you dare challenge that narrative, they're going to come after you.
And so it's unbelievable.
I think history and what we're witnessing currently is great evidence that, again, the government coupled with big tech can try to control that narrative.
Fortunately, we still live in a very free society.
But we had our politicians convicting him before he was tried.
We had big tech convicting him before he was tried.
We had the media.
It's remarkable.
We have the president of the United States.
Biden called him a white supremacist.
So this, just to remind people, Facebook labeled the event a mass murder and blocked searches for Rittenhouse's name.
That's Facebook.
Twitter suspended an account that claimed Rittenhouse did nothing wrong and then censored another post claiming that Rittenhouse did nothing wrong.
And then they also blocked a fundraiser via GoFundMe.
And then after he was acquitted, when he didn't need his lawyers anymore, then they reinstated him and said, yeah, you can raise money now.
Banks Trying to Cancel00:09:05
So this is how they do it.
It's collusion and they circle people, vulnerable people like Kyle in those moments.
And yeah, producer Connor just made a note that they were actually firing, people got fired from their jobs over donating to Kyle.
I think there was a police officer as well that got either fired or otherwise punished for donating to Kyle's legal fund.
I believe that happened more than once.
Unfortunately.
Yeah.
So yeah, GoFundMe says Rittenhouse fundraising.
Okay, now that he's acquitted.
You just can't make this stuff up.
So let's head to the next one here, guys.
It's banks try to cancel conservatives.
This is the largest U.S. banks cut ties to conservative groups, canceling Donald Trump Jr. events.
Now, if I know enough about this story, Don Jr. ends up getting the better of this particular one.
And I think it's another great example of why our voices matter.
Can you guys tell us what happened here?
Well, first of all, JP Morgan is a bad actor.
They're another one that we can hardly score worse than what they're scored.
Don't get me sad.
It was a experience with the people.
Yeah, a personal experience.
Several.
Sorry.
Yeah.
It's yeah.
But they, yeah, a subsidiary, you know, blocking this event, denying them access to financial transactions.
And there was pushback.
And they, JP Morgan had to overrule the subsidiary.
So there was sufficient voice raised.
But I think it proves the point time and time again.
If we speak up, we can begin to balance the scales.
But as long as we remain quiet, silence is affirmation.
So we have got to continue to speak up.
And this is another good example where they were looking to cancel Donald Trump Jr.
This is we pay.
We pay.
Yeah, we pay.
Yeah, we pay processor owned by JP Morgan Chase.
Yeah, it's like a PayPal, but a we pay.
And but isn't it amazing, though?
All these firms are so similar in their behavior and their verbiage.
I mean, how they express themselves.
There's got to be some meeting being held somewhere where they all get the agenda and they get the talking points.
It's just amazing.
Yeah, we've seen that, right, Charlie?
Well, yeah, I mean, it's just, so I'll tell you about JP Morgan.
I'm not trying, there's a lot of good people that work for them and they help me through this.
But I was paying taxes and, you know, we were building a new studio here at the Charlie Kirk show.
So I had a lot of incoming and outcoming in my account.
And so I was at the bank yesterday.
It's just kind of how it is.
You know, I was getting a cashier's check to buy something, you know, pay off a car.
And it was like five or six things.
And so all of a sudden, there was a fatal error message, which means basically I don't have access to my money.
Now, it wasn't because I was a conservative.
That's not, that's not why, right?
It was an AI thing.
But what was really chilling is that, yeah, the banks can basically say it's not your money.
And it was like this moment, and everyone was being really sweet about it and it got cleared up.
That's not the point.
The point is that at that specific moment in time, the banks basically were like, yeah, those are just numbers on a screen.
I couldn't withdraw $5 from my account.
It was a total fatal error message.
And I'm not trying to pick on Chase.
I'm sure Wells Fargo has AI fraud protection because that's what it's for, right?
There's so many ins and outs and they're trying to stop it.
And I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
I'm not trying to say it was centralized.
But if you connect the politics of JP Morgan with that sort of chilling moment that you realize, all of a sudden you're like, there could be a moment where a conservative wakes up and you don't have access to any liquidity at all.
That is one of the big motivations for second vote is that they know with money, the left understands this very well.
They've been working on this for years with pushing the whole financial world to the left.
There is this growing animosity towards Christians and conservatives.
And I think we absolutely are going to see more and more and more of this.
We need to speak up.
We need to push back.
If we do not, you're absolutely right.
One day you're going to wake up and find you're frozen out.
But we also, I guess, to get to the red-blue world or this divided world, we need banks that are there.
I mean, small local banks are not going to do that to you.
It's these big players, but we need to have alternatives that are nationwide alternatives.
And we just don't have that currently.
Yeah.
And again, I just, it got rectified.
It got solved.
I'm not trying to, you know, there are a lot of good people that work for the company.
I don't want to be fear-mongering, but there can be a moment where the bank tells you it's not your money.
And now there's laws.
Eventually they have to give it back to you and you'll win all that.
But if you're in a moment where you really need to pay something, for example, what if JP Morgan froze the accounts of conservatives three days before tax day?
That's a big, that's a real thing, right?
Sorry, your liquidity, you can't draw it out, can't pay your taxes.
Oh, really?
Well, go ahead, Andrew.
Yeah, no, there was the story of the little known story about AT ⁇ T basically stopped text messages from the campaign to raise money, the Trump campaign, a couple days before the election last year.
I mean, so these kinds of things happen.
And then you've got the Biden administration was trying to surveil bank accounts with over $600 in annual transactions.
Now they backed down on that from pushback.
But this is what they're trying to do.
They're trying to control the levers of the financial industry.
And to your point, Dr. Black, I mean, this is why it's so important to have alternatives.
I know there's a number of efforts underway. to start alternative banking and financial instruments.
Some have already happened.
We on the Charlie Kirk show, if you want to go to charliekirk.com slash support, we use something called Cornerstone, which is owned by Christians, which is a really great credit card processing company.
But, you know, this is why alternatives are so important.
This is why scoring these banks is so important and why using the platform of Second Vote to actually raise your voice together.
Because not everybody is Don Jr., right?
Not everybody has millions of followers on Twitter.
Not everybody can be Charlie Kirk.
But together with the collective voice of the Second Vote community, you can get a lot done and a lot accomplished.
And just quickly, I know we want to move on, but we, one of the programs under Second Vote is a religious liberty coalition, which is looking to protect churches that may come under attack from the left.
And we had one of our pastors on vacation down in Florida, and Bank of America cut off their credit cards while they were on vacation.
They couldn't get access to their money.
And they said, oh, we'll close out your account and send you your money in a week.
But the church and the pastor could not get access to their money.
Well, I just want to reiterate for our audience, secondvote.com.
You could spell it out, secondvote.com or 2ndvote.com, promo code Charlie for 50% off.
Everyone, buy a membership if you can.
It's incredibly important to support this great organization and know where your dollars are flowing.
I wish we could keep talking, guys.
So we'll have to do it again next month.
Andrew?
Yeah, one last thing before we head off.
This CVS take action campaign is really, really important.
I think that's the clarion call.
If anybody listening right now has the one action step to do from this, it's go to Second Vote website, use the promo code Charlie, but then search for CVS and scroll down to take action, right?
That's the proper step-by-step.
And then write a message to CVS and tell them to knock off this CRT nonsense.
Absolutely.
This is something that we can do.
I think if we really push together as a collective, I'm going to do it as soon as we get off the interview with you guys.
I think if we all group our voices together, we can really force a change at CVS and their culture.
And I would love for the next time you guys get on the Charlie Kirk show that we have that to report back.
Great.
Great.
Thank you.
And by the way, you're hired, Andrew.
Yeah, you did it perfectly.
I love it.
And thank you so much.
Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas, secondvote.com.
See you guys next year.
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