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Nov. 10, 2021 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Debunking the Case Against Kyle Rittenhouse with Jack Posobiec
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Kyle Rittenhouse Self-Defense Trial 00:12:26
Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, what's going on with Kyle Rittenhouse?
The latest from his trial in Wisconsin.
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Jack, there's a lot I want to talk to you about.
Good to see you.
But let's start with kind of how your honorable fixation has honestly made me more interested and let's say fixated on the Kyle Rittenhouse story.
A lot of our listeners don't have a lot of understanding.
They're not really aware of what's happening.
This is not being covered as much as the Floyd saga.
Let's start from the beginning.
What happened?
Who is Kyle Rittenhouse?
What is he charged with?
Just start from the beginning and then we'll work through the current.
Yeah, sure.
No, thanks, Charlie.
And I appreciate the intro there.
So what happened with Kyle Rittenhouse?
You have to go back to the summer of rage of 2020.
Floyd of Paloozo, right?
Yeah, exactly.
That was peppered throughout with these ubiquitous protests during the day and then riots, looting, arson at night.
And in one of the cities, actually a small city called Kenosha, Wisconsin.
It's about an hour north of Chicago, about an hour south of Milwaukee, right in between.
Following the police shooting of a criminal named Jacob Blake, who charged a police officer with an extended knife, there were multiple nights of rioting, looting, and arson that descended upon this town from people who, by the way, mostly were not actually from Kenosha, Wisconsin.
They were, again, as I mentioned, from Milwaukee and Chicago.
This is in between them.
And so on night three of this, you've got people that are scared out of their minds in the community.
You've got people, and we heard this in jury selection, that were going into the local churches with their families to say, maybe if we go in here, we'll be safe because hopefully they won't attack a church.
That's how bad it got in the village of Kenosha that night by night three.
So Kyle Rittenhouse was at the time 17 years old.
He lives about 15 minutes away, drove in with his friend and some others who had been asked to be there to help protect the town.
Kyle works as a lifeguard in Kenosha.
He had also been around there earlier that day scrubbing off graffiti from the walls, right?
By all intents and purposes, we know that this is a guy who is there, who cares about his hometown, who used this as his hometown and wants to do the right thing, doesn't like to see these roving bands of marauders coming through this.
Well, as the night continues, the night continues, Kyle's there.
He's trying to offer medical aid to people on both sides, by the way, running around saying, does anyone need medical?
Does anyone need this?
He does have an AR-15 style rifle in order to defend himself.
But for the most part of the night, he's not carrying that.
He's got it strapped on, but he's carrying a fire extinguisher to help put out fires at this car lot, this car dealership that has been attacked by these arsonists.
So at one point, he hears about a car lot that's going off.
This is a business that has multiple lots around town.
So he's running to go put out the fire while carrying a fire extinguisher.
Multiple members of this mob see him, target him, and begin chasing him through the street and then through the parking lot.
And at one point, we just saw an HD footage today for the very first time.
One of the assailants actually reaches for his gun after cornering Kyle in between a group of parked cars.
And at that point, Kyle takes steps to defend himself.
The mob then begins chasing Kyle Rittenhouse down the street, kicking him in the head after he stumbles.
Another one slamming a skateboard into the back of his head.
And another one approaching him with a raised, and we now know loaded Glock handgun.
Kyle again took steps to defend himself.
Now, in that situation, two of the people, including the first one I mentioned, were killed.
This person who pointed the firearm at him, which was a Glock 40 caliber, had, and there's been pictures throughout the internet of this, had his bicep essentially blown apart when Kyle fired his AR-15 one round with his AR-15 at him, 223 round.
And so Kyle is now on trial.
Here we are, 14 months later.
Kyle is on trial for murder and reckless endangerment.
But the media and President Biden have painted this kid as a white supremacist.
They've painted him as a vigilante.
They've painted him as every horrible name under the sun without actually looking at the video evidence that we have of that fateful night.
Well, but let me ask you, I never understood this.
And quite honestly, we did a Kyle Rittenhouse story six months ago talking about how I don't understand how these charges came to be.
What?
Is he charged with first-degree murder?
That's right.
Two counts.
How is that possible?
It's an altercation.
I mean, first degree murder is where you're like, I'm going to murder this person and go to their home with, you know, not some sort of bar fight going wrong.
Yeah.
So you're right, actually.
That would be what you're talking about would potentially be either voluntary manslaughter.
Yeah, that's what I never understood about this.
Or second degree murder because it was more indiscriminate.
What they're saying is what the prosecution's argument is, is that Kyle Rittenhouse brought his gun because he intended to murder these BLM protesters and that he had vengeful intent.
Now, what's interesting to me is that the prosecution, just a few minutes ago before I came on the show, just rested in this case after about a week and a half of testimony.
They did not present a single shred of evidence that Kyle Rittenhouse showed up with intent to hurt anyone.
Well, but this is what I can't understand is that the judge, the pretrial arguments, because this is just, you have months to submit motions to dismiss.
You're trying to tell me no one looked at this.
They say, wait a second.
You're charging a guy who got in an altercation was, by the way, the guy that Kyle Rittenhouse killed in self-defense was like a child rapist or something, right?
He was like a child pedophile or something.
Is that right?
Multiple account child rapists.
And honestly, the I'm not saying he deserves to die because of it, but the details of that case, if anyone wants to see it, it's absolutely history.
This is not Gandhi, okay?
Let's just.
What is actually relevant, what's actually relevant to this is that he had just been released from a hospital where he was being held on a psychiatric hold.
And we're told that he's been on and off antipsychotic medication, including Seroquil.
If anybody knows anyone who's been on that spectrum or takes that type of medication, this is very, very powerful medication.
And I think he killed him, right?
He's dead.
Is that right?
He's dead, yes.
Okay.
So, but throughout this whole process, I've failed to understand how this could possibly be presented in premeditated terms.
And I thought to myself, maybe they have text messages of Kyle saying something with intent.
Maybe they have, there's no such evidence, right?
So what's amazing is that actually to that point, Detective Adaramian, the lead detective on the case, testified yesterday that when he asked the one witness, the guy who had his arm blown off, Gage Grosskrutz, he said, I'd like to get access to your phone.
He didn't allow it.
And then the prosecutor said to not look at the phone of Grozkrutz.
But then when they went to Kyle Rittenhouse, Kyle said, oh, sure.
Do you need my password?
Here you go.
And immediately let the detectives look into his phone.
And yet they charged him with first degree murder.
So where does the trial stand now?
So where it stands now, it's really interesting because the prosecution has not presented any evidence inconsistent with the fact that Kyle acted in self-defense.
In fact, the medical examiner, the ME, just brought up there and said, look, this guy had powder burns on his hand from the gunshot.
If anyone knows anything about firearms, you got to be pretty close to get powder burns on your hand if you're not the one firing the weapon.
Your hand must be very close to the barrel.
They then said, well, could his hand have been trying to squat the rifle away?
Could he have been trying to do something like this?
The medical examiner responded to the prosecutors again.
Well, actually, he was so close that he had his hand stretched out like Superman going towards the rifle.
We, of course, can see this in HD footage.
We also hear his intent from Richie McGinnis.
It's a daily call reporter who was standing just behind them recording and reporting on this for Daily Caller to say, look, I saw him.
He lunged and he screamed F you at Kyle Rittenhouse and went for the gun.
And he was standing 10 feet away.
A better eyewitness, you're never going to find for this situation.
So because the prosecution's case has completely fallen apart, no, by the way, that guy, Gage Krozkrutz, who is a member of the People's Revolutionary Movement, who's gone through chance screaming, long live the revolution, actually admitted on the stand just yesterday that Kyle did not pull the trigger until he aimed his nine or his 40 caliber Glock in Kyle's direction.
At that point, Kyle fired.
So Kyle was not acting indiscriminately.
He was responding to threats.
The prosecution's case has completely fallen apart and they rested with the judge.
Well, I hope they acquit.
And then I hope Kyle Rittenhouse sues in civil court for all the nonsense that they put him through afterwards.
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Let's play that one clip from the trial, Cut 44.
With your arms up in the air, he never fired, right?
Correct.
It wasn't until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him, with your gun, now your hands down, pointed at him, that he fired, right?
Correct.
That's the whole, that's the ball game right there, isn't it, Jack?
I mean, it really does feel like a scene out of, you know, Matlock or something, some kind of legal draw, Lincoln lawyer, you know.
You rarely see it that cut and dry.
You don't usually see something like this in trial.
Usually it's much more, you know, it's a gray area.
Kind of vague, but this is you know, and you can actually see if you extend the clip if you don't have to.
But I think the the prosecutor, the second prosecutor, not Binger, I love.
He just goes like the star Star Wars lapel pins.
He just facepalming.
He just, he's just facepalm.
He's sitting there like what, what do we do?
But what's amazing is the prosecution didn't object at all.
Um, which is just an old procedural trick.
If you know what you're doing, to try to interrupt when you start to see a witness go in the wrong direction, you know.
Interestingly enough um, to your point, that's exactly what the prosecution did today during the me where they were discussing the situation about.
You know look, you examined this body.
He was this close.
He had the powder burns, he had soot and gunpowder all over his hands.
You know he's probably objection objection objection, of course.
No, they learned their lesson.
It's these.
These lawyers are all the same.
There's only so many tools in their toolkit.
Okay, I want to shift gears here, Jack.
And so there's this study from Arizona Christian University that says that 39 of 18 to 24 year olds identify as Lgbtq.
I didn't believe it until.
Let me read these two emails we got of some of our listeners here at Freedom, at Charliekirk.com.
Good morning, Charlie.
I was just listening to you Uh, on Radio TALK TALK Radio survey on millennials.
I live in Washington State.
My daughter was 11 and in the sixth grade.
Just yesterday, while talking about her day, she mentioned she had a lesbian girl in her class.
My husband asked a few more questions and she announced that half the kids say they are gay in her class.
Another email, Charlie.
I found that find the study very disturbing.
My daughter's 17 years old and in her high school after school group, 17 out of 19 of the high school girls identify as lesbian or trans.
This is a super Republican, affluent county in Georgia, jack.
What are we supposed to make out of this?
Well Charlie, this is exactly what you saw happen in Virginia just about a week ago right, I think a week or two a week ago today, actually that because they are introducing so much of this woke agenda into schools at younger and younger ages, they are then presenting these ideas to people when they are so impressionable, right?
My kid is three.
He's not.
He thinks he's an astronaut.
Then the other day he thought he was a zombie because it was halloween.
Then he thought he was, you know, a skeleton.
Again and again and again.
Right, you don't want to introduce this kind of stuff, this very heavy stuff, very serious stuff, to children, especially when they are at ages like this, when they are still trying to find things out.
It's bad enough that we put most kids through this type of German Insane education program.
Yeah exactly um, this idea that you will be.
You know, they're obedient schools where you're taught to raise your hand because you don't have any power.
They don't teach education.
They teach, you know, can you follow a schedule and can you sit in your chair and do as you're told.
So it's bad enough that we're forcing people through these hierarchical systems where everyone's being ranked and then stacked and constantly when you're going through puberty, when you're going through those hormonal changes in your life.
But now, when you throw this stuff on top, of course, of course it's going to lead people to start incorporating that stuff into their own identities.
And yeah, then you have 17 out of 19 people in an after school Group that are 17 years old say that they are lesbian or trans.
It's just stunning.
And I hope people start to wake up to that.
Jack, what's your final prediction on the Kyle Rittenhouse drama?
Well, I would be surprised if he gets acquitted of all counts.
I think he should be based on the merits.
But again, you've got a situation here where the crowd, this jury is from a group of people in that town that don't want to see more rioting.
And I have to, we worry that that is going to play a role in their decision.
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So I'm going to kind of just preface all this by saying we on this show were early.
We were right.
We predicted it.
We saw it coming, which is the inflation crisis.
If you go all the way back into the spring of 2020, a year and a half ago, we did an entire hour-long program on inflation, what it is, and why it's coming to America, and why the leaders in charge could only be, let's say, intentionally bringing us towards an inflation curve.
This is by no way whatsoever an accident.
This is inflation by design.
This is, in my personal opinion, an attempt to try to justify mass immigration to try and give a basis to try and say we need millions more people.
And someone who I know knows this very well is a friend of mine, a fellow Chicagoan, Steve Moore.
Steve, how are you doing?
Hey, Charlie, great to be with you.
Thanks for having me on.
And you are spot on.
You were right about inflation.
I was right on inflation.
And Joe Biden was wrong.
And so was Jerome Powell, the chairman of the Federal Reserve Board.
And the new numbers that came out this morning show that we're now, the producer prices are up 8% in a year.
And Charlie, this isn't complicated.
When producer prices go up, guess what happens to consumer prices?
Yeah, they just get passed off.
8.6% increase.
So can you translate the economic language to really what that means and how significant an 8.6% increase is?
Well, it means every time you go to the grocery store, every time you go to the gas pump, every time you go travel, every time you buy anything out at Walmart, things are going to be more expensive.
And it's, it's, inflation is a, is a regressive tax.
I love when Joe Biden, if you notice, he's, I'm not going to raise tax for anyone who makes less than 400,000.
Charlie, he already has.
Yes.
Every time you go to the gas pump, you're paying what I call the Biden inflation tax.
Every time you ask me, what does this mean for real Americans?
Let's say you're making $40,000, $50,000 a year.
So you're kind of lower middle class.
You're crushed because you used to pay in maybe $100 a week for groceries.
Now you're paying $120,000, $125 a week for groceries.
Every time you go to the gas pump, you pay $18, $19 more to fill up your tank.
For millionaires and billionaires, that's not a problem.
But if you're living on a fixed income, it's a big problem.
And I've lived through this, Charlie.
As you know, I'm, I lived through the 70s.
I remember under Nixon and Ford and Carter when inflation got worse and worse and worse.
And what it did is it snowballed.
Charlie, it got worse.
It seemed every month.
And that's why when Joe Biden and Jerome Powell, the bed chairman, keep saying this is transitory.
You know, nobody believes that.
Do you believe that?
No, I'm not even close.
No, it seems as if this is going to be a structural feature of the Biden economy.
Let's go a step a level deeper.
What is causing this?
Obviously, the money printing, the quantitative easing, but also these ridiculous bills that Republicans are voting for in D.C., Steve.
I mean, I cannot for the life of me understand the thought behind the infrastructure package deal while we're in the midst of a historic and unprecedented inflation cycle.
Yeah, and don't even use the word infrastructure.
It's a Green New Deal.
Yes, that's exactly right.
Right.
Only about one out of every $4 in that bill is for what, look, do Americans want the roads fixed?
Do they want to get rid of those potholes and safe bridges?
Yes, but that's not what this money is used for.
And incidentally, if they're serious about infrastructure, why is it that the first act of this president was to kill the Keystone XL pipeline, which is a vital part of our infrastructure, which costs nothing.
That was going to be paid for entirely by the private sector.
I think this is a sham infrastructure bill.
It's all money for green energy projects.
It's money for Tesla.
Incidentally, Charlie, Tesla is now a $1 trillion market cap company.
$1 trillion is the value of all its stock.
Can you tell me why a $1 trillion company needs federal subsidies?
Well, and even worse than that, Steve, remember, six months ago, Nancy Pelosi suspiciously bought a bunch of shares of Tesla.
Remember that?
And that's the sort of stuff that just makes people so outraged.
And they lose hope in the actual process of what's supposed to happen.
So, Steve, one of my big fears right now is a labor shortage.
What is causing that?
I've heard a lot of different people hypothesize as to the root of that.
What is your take as to why it seems that no one can find workers right now?
Well, I never actually fully answered your question about why we have the inflation.
And you did a very good job of answering it.
So, you know, inflation is really simple.
It goes back to Milton Friedman.
Remember this from Economics 100.
The economics, I mean, inflation is too many dollars chasing too few goods.
So what we've got now is we've got the federal government just massively pouring in trillions and trillions of dollars into the economy at a time when we already have prices rising.
Now, how are they paying for these trillions and trillions of dollars of spending they're doing?
Well, mostly by raising the debt.
Now, how do they pay for the debt?
Who buys the bonds?
Well, the Federal Reserve Board is buying the bonds, but how are they buying the bonds?
They're printing money.
They're just flushing money into the economy.
And that means that the dollars in your wallet, the dollars in your savings accounts, the dollar in your paycheck is it's like your paycheck is shrinking each month with this inflation.
And it is killing people.
It's just, it is a killer for people at the lower end of the ladder.
Now, the labor shortage, that's caused by these massive government benefits.
You know, we pay people.
My buddy, Casey Mulligan, also, you know, Chicago, and he's at the University of Chicago, the best labor economist in the country.
He estimates that there are many people who can get $75,000, $80,000, $90,000 a couple on welfare in benefits.
You don't have to pay any tax on it.
You don't have to work one hour for it.
Biden has eviscerated all of the work requirements that were passed in the mid-1990s to reform welfare.
It's like we've turned back the clock.
And we're going back to the great society programs of LBJ when we have these massive cycles of poverty and people living on welfare.
I believe in a social safety net.
I believe in giving people a hand up, but we are now giving people more money for not working than working.
That's not fair to the people listening to the show who are working, whether they're driving a truck or delivery people or working in nursing homes or nurses or doctors or people working in construction.
In many cases, the people sitting at home watching Netflix are making more money than they are.
Well, and what it does, and you know, economics is best summarized as kind of the analysis of incentives, right?
Which is that, and so when you incentivize inactivity, then you're going to have people ask themselves question, why should I go wake up at 4 a.m. to go work at Starbucks, you know, or go work at Dunkin' Donuts or whatever, right?
To go lay tile or to go fix, you know, to go become a plumber.
And what we're seeing, Steve, is it seems as if the two worst things you could possibly happen to an economy, which is price is going up, and then we're flirting with now interrupting production and productivity.
And so talk a little bit about the supply chain crisis as well.
So we have less stuff and more dollar bills.
It's a recipe for disaster.
I mean, I'm just laughing because, you know, I heard Joe Biden say the other day, you know, if you're worried about inflation, pass my spending bill and my debt bill.
I'm like, gee, where's the economic logic of that?
And then we've got, you talk about the supplies.
Don't worry about the supply chain problems because we have Pete Budijak on the job on the case.
I mean, here's a guy who a year ago was the mayor of, he seems like a nice guy, but he's the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.
And now he's overseeing a trillion-dollar industry.
The guy doesn't know anything about trains, planes, and automobiles.
And he's going to rescue us from the supply chain problem.
You can't get the merchandise off the cargo ships.
You can't get truck drivers once the cargo ships are unloaded to drive the trucks to the warehouses.
You don't get the warehouse workers.
It's a catastrophe.
I mean, it's an unbelievable catastrophe.
And every single bill that Biden has passed, $7 trillion of extra spending he wants this year.
That's more money, Charlie, than we spent in today's dollars to fund the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, World War I, World War II, the Cold War, and the interstate highway system, and the intercontinental rail system and the moon landing.
That's how much he wants to spend in one year.
It's so outrageous.
It's unfathomable.
I'd almost rather have Bernie Sanders in office because at least he admits he's a socialist.
Yeah, he owns it.
And then we could build a coalition against it.
It doesn't seem like Biden has many supporters, though.
But Steve, the thing I want to close on, which is something you mentioned, which is the other side accuses us of being the party of the rich, the few, and the well-connected.
But it seems that inflation is the most burdensome on people that do not have assets.
Of course.
And it's the easiest.
It's not the easiest, but people that own assets, they actually can get richer in inflation curves.
If you own land, especially revenue-producing land, where you can, let's just say, change rates, change rent or change how much that you are charging, then you can adjust to inflation curves.
But if you are working as a welder and you have almost no assets to your name, well, then this actually is harmful to you.
So talk about that.
And then secondly, Steve, you mentioned the debt.
I'm so glad you did.
If you're a debtor nation, sometimes you want inflation because then it actually depreciates your debt level, your debt burden you have.
So talk about those two things.
Well, on the second point, it's true you can do that in the short term.
So, you know, that's what essentially what you just described is called monetizing debt.
Yes.
And you know who does that?
Zimbabwe.
Argentina or Venezuela, Zimbabwe.
Third world countries do that, right?
And we're following their lead.
And that's not a story that has a very happy ending because what happens is then nobody wants to buy your debt.
And how do you get people to buy the debt?
You have to keep raising your interest rates.
And when the interest rates go up, what does that do to the cost of the debt?
It becomes a vicious cycle.
So we're in a dangerous situation right now.
We've never seen anything like this where Biden is talking about taking our $20 trillion debt to $40 trillion.
And they believe, they believe in this idiotic concept called modern monetary theory.
It's like, you know, it's like the tooth theory.
I totally agree with you, Steve.
And some people on the right are embracing modern monetary theory.
It's insane.
It's against the laws of Newtonian physics.
One minute left, Steve.
Can you answer the first part of it?
How the rich actually benefit from inflation?
Well, they can in the short term because they own assets.
Look at the stock markets.
It's up.
But in the end of the day, everybody's hurt by an inflationary monetary policy.
It's the unkindest tax of all.
And Biden, if we keep this up, I hate to say this.
I think we're looking at $5 to $6 a gallon gasoline coming to a pump near you.
And that is going to kill middle-class workers.
Well, and, you know, if you look at corporate borrowing last year, corporate borrowing, they expanded their balance sheets by about $600 billion.
And they knew that interest rates would never get that low again.
And they borrowed while they could.
And most Americans were just barely surviving last year.
It is the unkindest tax of them all.
Steve, you're a great friend, and you do a wonderful job.
Everyone should subscribe to his committee to unleash prosperity, unleash prosperity, co-founder of that.
Steve, thanks so much for joining us.
Always good to talk to a fellow Chicago.
Talk to you soon.
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Adam Schiff Lies Exposed 00:04:52
You know, Democrat politicians, they like to hide from the limelight.
They don't like to go up against, not hide from the limelight.
They like to hide from opposition journalists and people that want to ask themselves questions, ask them questions.
But it just so happens that the stars aligned in a certain way, where creepy, boogie-eyed Adam Schiff decided to go on the view.
Now, Adam Schiff did not look very well-rested in this clip.
I don't think Adam Schiff was properly staffed ahead of this, let's say, encounter.
I don't think Adam Schiff knew that one of the co-hosts for the day was none other than Morgan Ortegas.
Morgan is a friend of mine.
She worked for the State Department, and she's very smart and very good on television.
Adam Schiff, nearly at a loss for words, was not able to even process, understand that he would get an opposition or, let's say, difficult question.
Rarely do you get to see justice happen in real time.
And boy, was Adam Schiff surprised, shocked, unable to even make a stable sentence.
Adam Schiff on the View, everybody.
Enjoy Cut 64.
So I want to ask you about something that's in the news a lot right now.
You've been really prolific over the past few years being the head of the Intel Committee.
And you've defended, promoted, you even read into the congressional record the Steele dossier.
And we know last week the main source of the dossier was indicted by the FBI for lying about most of the key claims in that dossier.
Do you have any reflections on your role in promoting this to the American people?
Well, first of all, whoever lied to the FBI or lied to Christopher Steele should be prosecuted, and they are.
And unlike in the Trump administration, if they're convicted, they should go to jail, not be pardoned.
So Donald Trump pardoned Roger Stone for lying.
He pardoned Michael Flynn for lying.
If people lied to the FBI, they should go to jail.
But at the beginning of the Russian investigation, I said that any allegations should be investigated.
We couldn't have known, for example, people were lying to Christopher Steele.
So it was proper to investigate them.
And let's not forget what we learned in that investigation.
We learned that the Trump campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, was giving internal polling data, campaign polling data, to Russian intelligence while Russian intelligence was helping the Trump.
And to be clear, he was fired halfway through the campaign.
Well, he may have been fired.
But the effort to get Russian help continued and even beyond the effort to get Russian help.
But you may have spread Russian disinformation yourself for years by promoting this.
I think that's what Republicans and what people who entrusted you as the Intel committee chair are so confused about your culpability in all of this.
Well, I completely disagree with your premise.
It's one thing to say allegations should be investigated, and they were.
It's another to say that we should have foreseen in advance that some people were lying to Christopher Steele, which is impossible, of course, to do.
But let's not use that as a smokescreen to somehow shield Donald Trump's culpability for inviting Russia to help him in the election, which they did, for trying to coerce Ukraine into helping him in the next election, which he did, into inciting an insurrection, which he did.
None of that is undercut.
None of that serious misconduct is in any way diminished by the fact that people lied to Christopher Steele.
No, I think just your credibility is.
Ma'am.
Boom.
Morgan Ortegas, I think, should be a full-time guest on The View.
Something tells me she will not be welcome back.
Morgan's a friend of mine.
The way she handled herself was so terrific, wasn't it?
It wasn't out of control or chaotic.
It was like a prosecutor prosecuting a case against a known liar, shill, and bad guy, Adam Schiff, co-host of The View.
Is she now a permanent co-host?
I think she was a guest, right?
Was she a guest co-host?
I don't follow the view very much.
Everybody, email us your thoughts.
It's always freedom at charliekirk.com.
And yes, for those of you that are driving in the car with children, Adam Schiff did say, he did not say insurrection.
He said something else.
I'm not going to repeat it because we're a family-friendly show.
We don't do that around here.
It wouldn't be fair.
Inciting not an insurrection, inciting something else.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
God bless.
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