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Aug. 26, 2021 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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13 American Service Members | LIVE, Breaking Analysis as Chaos in Kabul Unfolded—with Dr. Keith Rose, Victor Marx, and Jack Posobiec
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Fog of War Confirmed 00:13:50
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Hey, everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
This is Andrew Colvett filling in for Charlie Kirk just in these first few minutes here.
Charlie's going to be right here.
We've had massive, massive developments on the Afghanistan front in a tragic morning for the United States, military, frankly, for our entire country.
A chaotic scene is unfolding in Kabul as we speak.
Here's what we know: a suicide bombing outside the Abbey Gate at Kabul's airport in Afghanistan injured at least three U.S. Marines.
U.S. officials have confirmed.
U.S. officials indicated that the attack set off a firefight at Abbey Gate, where get this, there were last night 5,000 Afghans and likely many Americans seeking access to the airport.
A second explosion happened outside the Baron Hotel.
Sources say we are getting indications of at least 13 casualties.
We've seen reports of as many as 15.
We have sources on the ground that are communicating with our team.
And again, this is unconfirmed, and I want to stress that.
These are preliminary indications.
The fog of war, all of this is very real, and we don't want to jump to any conclusions.
But I just want to explain and not hold anything back some of the things that we're hearing.
So, sources on the ground have told us that they believe there were four U.S. Marines killed.
Now, again, I cannot confirm that, and I want to stress that that is unconfirmed.
But to sort of frame this in a way that I think properly expresses just how chaotic and destructive and tragic this scene truly is, I think it's important that this audience knows exactly what we know and knows it when we know it.
The Pentagon is calling this a complex attack.
Initial reports speculated that it could have been a car bombing.
It turns out that is not the case.
This was a suicide bomber, at least two of them, at the Baron Hotel in Abbey Gate, working in unison, which means that there was coordination, which means there was planning.
Speculation abounds, whether this was the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS-K.
There are factions on the ground that are all fighting for turf, fighting for influence, as the U.S. evacuates in a shameful manner.
We are creating this vacuum.
We are creating this chaos on the ground, which we've been talking about all week.
As a matter of fact, we were talking about it last week.
And this, unfortunately, is the sad conclusion this morning.
Now, I shouldn't really say conclusion because reports are indicating that many more attacks are to be expected, that this is just the beginning, and that we should brace for further casualties.
I want to play Cut 77.
This is Fox News, Jennifer Griffin, explaining how this was definitely a coordinated attack.
Play Cut 77.
We know from Pentagon sources, and anybody on the Hill is getting their information from here at the Pentagon, that it was a coordinated attack.
Anytime you have two explosions, a suicide bombing and an ongoing firefight and a second explosion at a nearby hotel, that is a coordinated terrorist attack.
The question is who carried it out?
And right now, there's no way of knowing, and there's no way of going after those who are responsible for that attack.
And right now, the military is just trying to get those evacuees off the tarmac and out of harm's way.
And let's play Cut 76.
This is Harris Faulkner giving a, she's just been tremendous on this, giving a very detailed explanation that these attacks could very well be ongoing.
Cut 76.
My team has just forwarded this to me, urgent sources telling us this could be, and it speaks to what you were just saying.
We don't know for sure who did what, but this could be a coordinated attack and maybe, and this is in all caps, ongoing as an event with more to come.
An ongoing event with more to come.
Now, I want to frame just how horrific this is.
And if you follow us on Telegram, we've been posting all morning some of the video and the images.
But I want to frame that in context properly by explaining how our inept commander-in-chief has been completely asleep at the wheel.
Our puppet president, Joe Biden, never taking questions, never facing the hard truth, and instead choosing to gaslight the American people time and time again when he had the opportunity to be honest and forthright.
Instead, Cut 78, this is Joe Biden from last week.
Talk about a clip that has not aged well for Mr. Biden.
Cut 78.
Still a lot of pandemonium outside the airport.
Well, there is, but look, but no one's being killed right now.
God forgive me if I'm wrong about that, but no one's being killed right now.
You might have missed it.
But he knocked on wood.
Joe Biden just knocked on wood with George Stepanopoulos, a political activist, posing as a media personality.
He just knocked on wood.
Hope is not a strategy, Mr. President.
I want to play another cut of our esteemed commander-in-chief who has completely humiliated the American people.
Cut 79, just days ago.
This is Joe Biden walking away as reporters, for once, are actually trying to do their job.
And he would not answer the tough question.
Play cut.
Thank you.
That's a reporter, and I stress, actually attempting to do their job for once, asking, do Americans face a real threat from ISIS now?
And instead of answering it, the coward in chief turned his back, not just on that reporter, but on all the American people and walked away.
And now we have credible reports from in the field that Americans are, we have American casualties.
Now, for those of you who might want to conflate that with deaths, we cannot confirm that.
Casualty could mean serious injury, but we do know at least three casualties that are American on the ground from the suicide attacks in Kabul.
Now, when we say that blood is on somebody's hands, it's a serious thing to say.
But I think in this moment, there is no more apt way to describe what just happened.
There is indeed blood on Joe Biden's hands because the whole world has been begging him to change his strategy.
The whole world, our allies in NATO, even the press corps, has been scratching their head at just how inept this withdrawal from Afghanistan is.
And yet here we are, as everybody warned, as everybody feared, there is now dead bodies in the streets of Kabul.
We have been negotiating with terrorists in good faith as if this was somehow going to end well.
And unfortunately, we have the first blasts that have taken lives.
And we just pray that none of those are American lives.
But it certainly is not shaping up to be a day where we expect good news.
I want to preface that this is the fog of war.
Details are coming as fast as we can get them.
I am joined by a friend of mine, a friend of the show, Dr. Keith Rose.
He's a foreign intelligence expert.
He's a man that is well-versed in country, in the region from Pakistan to Afghanistan.
He has been working to help evacuate folks.
I hope that's all right that I say that, Dr. Rose.
There's so much to cover here.
It's truly a somber mood in this studio, I can tell you.
I think it's a somber mood across the country.
So welcome to the Charlie Kirk show.
You know, we're honored to have you.
Thank you for making some time for this morning.
Good to be here.
So, Dr. Rose, please give us as best you can.
I know details are, it's a chaotic scene on the ground, but please, as best you can, I know you're in communication with folks on the ground all the time.
You've been sending us updates.
Tell us what you know.
Early this morning, well, actually, several hours ago, there was an IED that went off outside of Abbey Gate.
Abbey Gate is the most crowded gate going into Kaya, Kabul International Airport, because it's not only a gate, but it also has a large sewage ditch where several people were walking through the sewage to make it into the airport.
It was, I sent you some pictures.
It was just packed.
Yeah, there was a lot of.
Yeah, I saw there was, I was going to ask you about where the water was coming from.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was sewage.
And what happened?
Yeah, it's really a horrific event because our team and I know several other teams have been working literally for a week around the clock to get people out of Afghanistan.
And I've been working with a lot of guys, former intelligence agents.
I've been working with former military folks in the special operations community as well as active duty folks.
And we've all been working together privately because we haven't, we have some support from the lower level guys inside, which was very much appreciated, but we just haven't got any support from State Department or any of the higher level military officers or as high as you know the intelligence agencies.
No one seems to know what to do.
So we were all working together to get people out.
And so while we were doing that, we're in constant communication.
Most of us haven't been sleeping but a few hours a night.
And so when you're doing that, and all of a sudden we had another team that was positioned ready to move 60 guys in, the IED goes off.
And one of the military guys we're in touch with on the field said he felt the blast at 300 meters.
He was 300 meters from the gate and felt the blast.
I have a lot of guys outside the gate that have been sending me pictures.
And what I understand, official reports said at least 80 people are dead.
Unofficially from inside the base, I understand four Marines were killed.
Now, that's not verified.
They're saying there's various reports out there, three were wounded, but the person that told me would know.
So again, I just want to say that it's the fog of the fog of war, if you will.
The fog of war.
And so all these reports of casualties are very preliminary.
I will tell you, Dr. Rose, you have been right on basically everything as you've been giving us reports.
There's been a couple of times where we haven't actually gone public with those reports just because we couldn't confirm it with other sources.
And then you've been proven to be 100% right regarding the withdrawal timeline.
You were ahead of that by about a day.
I mean, there's just numerous instances where you've been keeping us abreast of this.
So while I want to hedge and say, hey, we don't have confirmed reports from the State Department, from the White House, you are getting this from sources on the ground that are looking at this with their own two eyes.
That's correct.
In fact, you know, and we don't know, again, fog of war.
We don't know 100%.
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That's right.
But at the same time, you know, this is one of those times you don't want to be right.
I wrote an article over a year and a half ago concerned about this exact thing.
We knew the Taliban were not honoring the peace accord that Ambassador Khalazad was working on.
The reason we knew it is because we read their traffic.
We had guys inside working with the Taliban, and we had people giving us information that we had, that I worked over there for over 12 years.
So I knew people along the way.
And we knew that they were not going to honor the peace plan.
And all this was passed forward to the appropriate departments and the Pentagon and the agency.
And no one paid attention.
And the outcome is tragic.
Yeah, of course.
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Hey, everybody.
Welcome back.
Charlie Kirk here.
Thank you, Andrew, for co-piloting.
You know, the cool thing about having a co-pilot is sometimes you need the co-pilot.
And so here we are back in Mission Command with our good friend, Keith Rose.
And thank you.
Now I can, now we are fully operational here.
Thank you, Andrew.
You did a wonderful job on this.
Yeah.
Tough morning in many different ways.
Haqqani Network Threats 00:15:05
Back with our friend, Dr. Keith Rose, who is a foreign intelligence expert who has been working intimately on the ground in Kabul to try and help Americans and do the right thing.
And everything that Keith has been sharing with us on this program has come true in a real incredible way, more so than anyone we have seen in the activist media.
Keith, great to see you.
I have a question for you here, which I screenshotted a story that I sent to Andrew this morning and our team.
It was a Newsweek story where we had some heads up that this terrorist attack was going to happen.
I mean, I'm a little puzzled by that.
The Newsweek story said terrorist attack imminent.
Usually you don't get a heads up.
And if we had a heads up, why didn't we do anything about it?
Maybe this is just kind of a layman's question.
Maybe Andrew went through this, but can you help?
Can you help me understand that?
I can.
Actually, it came across the wire last night through the Intel channels that there was a credible, a very quote unquote, credible threat of an attack at the gate, an IED attack.
And they locked down the airport last night.
They even bulldozed.
What I understand is the 82nd Airborne even bulldozed a certain area to build up a barrier, is what I was told from someone inside the camp.
So we knew it was locked down because of this report.
I find it interesting.
They're saying that it's ISIS, quote unquote, but we know for a fact that the Haqqani organization is in Kabul right now.
We also know for a fact, and you can look this up, that one of the lead bomb makers of the Haqqanis was pardoned a while back or let out for some reason.
And we kind of made a stink of it in the media at that time, but the Qanis are known for their IED technology.
So I find it almost a throwaway line when we're trying to blame this on ISIS when there is no question that this was done under the authority of the Taliban.
It may have been the Haqqani network, but ISIS didn't sneak in in the middle of the Taliban, which are everywhere around the airport and plant this.
Although it does sound like it makes a good narrative if you want to say, well, the Taliban followed our agreement.
ISIS didn't.
I'm just getting ahead of it a little bit, but it doesn't make sense.
Well, Keith, from the Wall Street Journal, I'm just, this is an hour ago.
It says, in Taliban-ruled Afghanistan, Al-Qaeda-linked Haqqani network rises to power, and it undermines Taliban's claims of severing terrorist ties.
So this is kind of exactly in sync with what you're saying.
They're using, they're trying to say that we're going to be a responsible international actor, but really they're using the Haqqani network as their proxy.
They've always done that.
You know, I wrote a piece in Newsweek back in March of 2020 speaking about this exact thing about the Haqqani network and how this peace deal that Ambassador Khalazide was doing was a fool's errand because I understand the Akaqani network real well.
I've watched them over a decade.
And Siraj Akhani is basically, he's not a jihadist.
He's a dumbed-down version of the Sopranos.
And he's supported by the ISI, the Pakistani intelligence services.
That's not a question.
And that's the concern.
If our State Department was serious about leaving Afghanistan, then we would read the riot act to the Pakistani government and tell them no support for the terrorists.
A few days ago, I understand Siraj Akhani was in Lagma.
Now, I don't know if he's in Kabul, but I know his network is because his network at a roadblock in Kabul the other day killed a 10-year-old kid.
And so what you're seeing now is, and also to your point on the al-Qaeda, I'm going to back up a little bit.
We have been reporting for several years that Al-Qaeda was building up.
We have sent video and multiple reports to the Pentagon and into the proper channels showing that al-Qaeda was not diminished, but was actually getting stronger.
And I interviewed one of my guys the other day who said in Kabul, he's seen foreign fighters that speak Arabic, Chinese, and a language he didn't understand.
He thinks they were probably Chechens or Uzbeks.
So you have a host of foreign fighters which commit a lot of the atrocities.
Then you have the Taliban that have come in.
And all of this wasn't because they fought their way in, but they were sucked in by the vacuum we created by a complete abrogation of leadership and strategy in that area.
Now, Keith, maybe I don't quite understand the logistics of this, but if Joe Biden and the Biden regime would have given the green light to secure, let's say, a five-mile perimeter around the airport, this wouldn't have happened.
Is that correct?
If we would have been allowed our troops to do what they want to do right now, they are begging to actually be able to create some breathing space to go find Americans.
And other countries are doing this.
The Germans are sending intelligence forces and special forces out.
The Brits are, the Aussies are.
Is that correct, Keith, that this very well could have been prevented with the proper military strategy?
If I'm looking at this correctly, the Biden regime realized that they were in a difficult position here, difficult to say the least, but I think that Biden, at the best calculation, right, to give him the most benefit of the doubt that he does not deserve, he did not want to have to lose American troops and pay the political price for it.
I think that's what kind of caused the paralysis.
But now that might have already happened and there's bloodshed, is the kind of, is the unwillingness to actually act created more terror and bloodshed than actually if Biden would have allowed our troops to do their job?
Well, that's two parts you asked me, Charlie, so I want to answer both of them.
Our troops are there to protect and fight.
These are sheepdogs.
The Marines are being held inside the wire.
It's like taking a big pride of lions to a salad bar.
You're not giving them what they need.
You need to let them off the leash and do what Marines do best.
And Marines fight and they fight so well, but they fight when they have good leadership.
And a fish rots from the head down.
So what you're seeing right now, Charlie, is that they put in more troops and they didn't put them in quick enough.
And to your point, we only had 2,500 troops in Kabul before this.
We never had an issue because we had what we call tactical air.
We have air support.
We had good intelligence networks.
So we knew what was going on.
And we've had 2,500 troops for quite a while in Afghanistan.
And that's not a large number of troops.
We have more than that in South Korea.
But what happened is we abandoned our most strategic base and airfield in Bagra to come in.
I lived in Afghanistan.
I can tell you, Kabul airfield is in the middle of the city center, surrounded by big buildings, and it's impossible to secure adequately.
At the same time, we just got pushed out of our embassy almost overnight.
President Ghani left to everyone's surprise with what I understand pallets of cash.
And at the same time, when he left, we had no one from the State Department, no one from the administration stepping up and saying anything.
And these are lessons learned over two decades.
You do not show weakness to a group like the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, or any terrorists, because they see that as the starting gate, not the finish line.
And so what they're doing now is think about this for a second.
The administration said we have the greatest airlift ever.
That was a bold-face lie.
They said they have the best vetting and that everything is being done correctly.
That was a lie.
They said we will safely leave by the 31st.
That was our deal with the Taliban.
And shocker of all shockers, after the agency director goes over and meets with the Taliban, after our leads in the State Department say the Taliban not only don't follow what they said, they bloody us on the way out.
They kill, well, my understanding, they've killed Americans.
They have never abided by this deal.
And so you have feckless leadership, but more importantly, in the Biden administration, Charlie, it's not that they aren't doing anything.
They don't know what to do because a woke leadership is not about results.
It's a patina of an ideology that's not about producing anything.
And in this case, we need to produce a response that reestablishes our nation for security.
Because I can tell you from this, if we don't do anything, there won't be one American citizen safe that travels anywhere in the world.
It will be an open season on American citizens.
I'm going to give you the audience just a quick update.
The Taliban, just in this is from their spokespeople, I guess, strongly condemns the bombing, quote, quote unquote, of civilians at Kabul airport, quote, which took place in an area where U.S. forces are responsible for security.
So they're now.
That's a bald face lie.
Let me just tell you, because I mean, I've been working in this area a long time, and I had people there on the ground.
We were getting real-time video.
The troops are inside the building.
They're not responsible for the security outside the building.
The bomb didn't come from the inside.
It came from the outside.
And I can show you volumes of pictures like anybody can of the Taliban controlling the outside, beating people.
So what the Taliban is saying is that ISIS in the middle of the night snuck a massive bomb into the gate.
They could never have done it.
They could have never taken it through checkpoints.
The Taliban had that city.
They're choking it out.
And they're going around everywhere.
So what the Taliban are doing is trying to push away from this incident.
And they own it.
It happened under their authority.
And in that community, we should wrap it around their neck.
We should put a quick reaction force in there.
We should take Bagram back, secure an area until we safely evacuate everyone, which could be done over a month or so.
And that would be it.
So, Keith, do you think the reason why Biden did not want to do that is that he didn't want to lose more American lives?
But it turns out the unwillingness to act because of that fear actually might now contribute to a hostage situation and more American lives being lost.
I think it's more nefarious than that.
And I know this is going to be inflammatory, but I think Joe Biden made a deal in 2015 and he's paying his debt now with the Chinese because the winner in this are the Chinese.
They have an open Silk Road straight through to Iran and the Mediterranean.
They get that multi-billion dollar copper play, which they desperately need in Afghanistan.
They get the rare earth minerals.
It strengthens their relationship with Pakistan.
China wins and rubs our face in it, causes us to lose face.
And this is so unprecedented.
Some people called it a black swan, Charlie.
This is a plaid unicorn.
We've never seen anything like this.
So, Keith, that's an explosive allegation that I'm very sympathetic to.
So stay right there.
That's super important, Keith.
Talk about how China actually might be pulling the strings behind Joe Biden and how China is the winner in Kabul.
This is fascinating.
China has always been working on this grand deal.
They're trying to elevate themselves to a world superpower.
And China doesn't have a lot of rare earth minerals.
They don't have a lot of raw materials.
They don't have a lot of intellectual property that they don't steal, but they're very good at something called barbarian management.
And that's manipulating a greater power, whether it be an army or whether it be a nation, by bribing or manipulating their leaders or sons of their leaders.
This is established back to the Mongol periods.
And so I believe that China manipulated the Biden administration back in 2015 when all of a sudden, by reports, there were billions of dollars or a billion dollars changed hands.
And Hunter Biden all of a sudden got a lot of money.
And I believe that Joe Biden's having to pay a debt now.
I think that's one of the reasons Hunter Biden can sell his artwork so easily.
But what this does for China is so good for them on so many levels and tragic for us.
It allows them to have a clear path through Afghanistan into Iran, which gives them access to a Mediterranean port.
It also strengthens their relationship with Pakistan.
It gives them access to a massive copper play in Afghanistan that's over, I don't know the exact worth, but I know it's over $40 billion of copper, which they need.
And it gives them access to a lot of rare earth minerals.
The other thing is it allows them to manipulate and be involved in something called the TAPI pipeline, the Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India pipeline.
And why that's interesting is because we definitely know that the Taliban met over a month ago with TAPI officials talking about how they were going to facilitate the TAPI pipeline.
So the Taliban knew they were coming to power.
And it makes no sense whatsoever that we left Afghanistan the way we did because we not only left it and opened it up for the Taliban, but the way we left it, it humiliated our military and our nation.
It opened us up for every jihadist to see weakness.
And weakness is the fuel in their clown car.
It's what makes them move and makes them want to do things.
When President Trump was in office, the one thing is people knew they didn't want to mess with him because they knew he would do something.
I don't believe anyone died when President Trump was in office in Afghanistan.
Joe Biden just eclipsed that today.
And the way we're leaving now and leaving Charlie, this is important.
All those weapons behind.
We have some very proprietary top secret armor that we left that may be in China now.
Know that they were traveling across like we talked about earlier, the Pakistan border.
So, this is not only a win for China geopolitically, it's a win for them militarily.
And what is your final message?
What just to summarize it all, there are dozens of people dead right now because of this bombing.
It was preventable.
The Biden regime, according to you, is being blackmailed by China.
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Tie this all together the best you can, Keith.
It's simple.
This is a man-made disaster.
This is not bad luck.
This is not, things didn't go right.
The United States of America has the best equipped fighting force in the world.
They were not allowed to perform.
We had all the information.
We were not allowed to process it and implement the information we had for a successful safe withdrawal.
There is no reason in the world that we had to withdraw when we did.
We had a stable force less than most of the other posts we have around the world, and we could have withdrawn safely.
So, what this says is says someone had wanted to do this.
This is beyond malfeasance, Charlie.
Someone wanted to inflict maximum damage.
You could not wargame this better to inflict maximal damage on us, but it could only be done from the inside.
Well, Keith, and we're going to have to leave it there.
I said something similar last week and came under a lot of backlash because I said I refuse to say that this was incompetence when it was, it's this, this it's intentional the way it's there.
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Marines Killed by IED 00:08:24
Keith called us this morning very early and he said four Marines are dead in Kabul after this IED.
No one was reporting this in the media and we tweeted that out.
And now the Wall Street Journal can confirm Kabul airport explosion kills four U.S. Marines amid evacuations.
Joe Biden was in an interview with George Stephanopoulos and knocked on wood saying, no Americans are dead yet.
Now four service members and Marines have been killed by this reckless withdrawal.
And we had heads up that this terrorist attack was coming.
And instead of trying to take ground and secure a perimeter and go after our own people, this happened.
And the Biden regime is going to have to answer for this now that American blood has been spilled.
And unfortunately, I think even more is going to come from that.
Keith, what are you hearing on the ground from your sources right now in Kabul?
Well, it's mass chaos.
What they did is after the first IED, they welded the gates shut and the 82nd folded in and they're doing a quick ex-fill.
They got to get out.
We are leaving after our Marines, which is arguably the best fighting force in the world, were not even allowed to defend themselves.
They had their hands tied behind their back.
And while Biden was knocking on wood, they were placking off an IED.
And another one, as you know, went off at the Barron Hotel.
And just to get rid of that rumor that ISIS is involved, the Barron Hotel last night, the Taliban put a 50-caliber machine gun, probably one of ours, on top of the Baron Hotel.
We all thought through video and others, other ways.
And so the Taliban were in control of the Barron Hotel.
And then they probably just left and blew it or out in front of it.
And so you have a lot of injured people.
But the big winner in all this is China, because China's just created a terrorist superstate.
They've humiliated us.
And now, and that's more important because it's greenlighting China to walk in to Taiwan because they've been preparing for this, Charlie, for decades.
And it doesn't require an amphibious invasion because China, I can promise you, with their language skills and their abilities, they're going to have a coup from within.
They have no language or cultural barrier in Taiwan.
So they probably have 100,000 agents just and special operations personnel embedded in Taiwan.
They have the intelligence, and these guys have probably just been working undercover.
So what they're going to do now is they're going to, and this might sound familiar, buy off the merchant class and kill off the ruling class, which is just the opposite of what they've done here in the United States, where they're buying off the ruling class and economically destroying the merchant class.
So there was, just for our audience's sake, I want to make sure that the details are clear here.
We've got Abbey, the Abbey Gate, and then we've got the Barron Hotel, correct?
Which is close to the airport.
Right.
And they all, they're both basically checkpoints or even choke points now at this point to the airport.
So what are we hearing as far as casualties at each point?
And you're saying it's more than what you're kind of hearing in the news media.
And I would normally hesitate to say this, but you've been right on everything else.
So go ahead and what are you hearing?
The last report I heard were 250 casualties.
I'm not sure whether that was combined or after, but I heard it after the Barron explosion.
So that was the second explosion.
Yeah.
That's correct.
And I was sent and I forwarded them to you pictures in the hospital of the people they're treating.
This is Beyond tragic because you have a city that was starting to have a shortage in food, a city that was having a shortage of basic supplies.
We were just beginning to get the reports of that.
The Taliban were going around and taking rations from people.
And now you have a city that has been basically under siege, not from an attack, but more by the vacuum created by our incompetence.
And then to have these mass injuries.
You have a mass triage situation.
It's going to fill all the hospitals.
It's going to be hard to, quote, flatten the curve, but at least, and this is true, they're not having a COVID problem there.
Unbelievable.
And so now we have four Marines dead.
And are there more attacks that are saying that are coming, Keith, that this is going to continue?
And why don't we allow our soldiers to start to fight?
Are you trying to tell me that we had the Marines basically playing traffic cops while there was an IED that came up instead of trying to protect the airport or allow Marines to do what they do best?
Am I understanding this right?
Charlie, traffic cops are out in the traffic.
The Marines were more like a dispatcher in an office.
They weren't even allowed out in the street.
And so these men that trained their whole life for a mission have been humiliated.
Charlie, this cannot go unresponded to.
This, I believe personally, and I may be wrong, this should be an extinction event for the Biden administration, the woke ideology, because if Americans cannot open their eyes and see the damage that has been done to this nation, then I don't see how we continue to exist.
I mean, so wouldn't it be logical to then retaliate against whomever is responsible for this bomb attack?
So you said something earlier, Keith, that it came across the wire.
Can you explain that to those of us that are not really kind of queued into military communication or technology?
Basically, that they got some sort of heads up that there was going to be an attack.
But wouldn't we know where that attack was coming from and the logistics of it?
Why didn't we try to prevent it?
Well, all we basically said is get away from the airport.
I mean, this seems so helpless here, Keith.
Why are we handcuffing the greatest fighting force in the history of the world while now we have four Marines dead and potentially even more Americans that are going to be either killed or held hostage?
Americans are dying.
Charlie, I don't want to armchair quarterback this too much, but I will tell you that my understanding is most of the intel reports were probably from signals.
They intercepted some communications.
I don't believe we have a robust human intelligence network out there, probably because from my understanding, the last agency asset got back to the U.S. over a week ago.
Now, I could be wrong, but that's what I'm hearing.
So when you have intelligence, it really starts out as information and you do what we call cross-your ends.
You may have a signals intelligence where you take it out of the sky, but then you have a human source that tells you something.
Or you may have something where you have a geospatial where a satellite or an aircraft picked up something.
And then you cross them up and you track and you go, okay, these are making sense.
I'm hearing it from more than one source.
Right now, I think they had a valid source.
That's what I was hearing.
They all thought, and it was signals, that this was going to happen.
And they prepared for it the best they could, but then they relaxed and went back.
And the problem here is, Charlie, there's no leadership or accountability.
It starts with the commander-in-chief is the head of the armed forces.
And it should make every American just stop where they are and look and go, wait, the commander-in-chief is in charge.
And this commander-in-chief has literally, not metaphorically, turned his back on every question asked to him about this.
And so you have people dead and you lost 2,000 people roughly at Pearl Harbor.
We lost 3,000 plus at 911.
Charlie, we're going to leave Afghanistan losing more Americans than we lost prior to going in there.
How many Americans are still in Afghanistan?
And we're pulling out in the next five days.
That's what we're told.
So we're pulling, there's an IED.
Four Marines get killed.
We're still pulling out.
Americans are abandoned.
Am I understanding this correctly?
I'm surprised if they're not out in 48 hours.
I don't know that for a fact, but I think they're going to collapse in as fast as possible.
I understand all the checkpoints you can't process anymore.
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I can tell you personally, I know of hundreds of Americans that are still there, but I don't know of them all.
I've heard estimates anywhere from 1,500 to 15,000.
And that's a broad range.
But we don't know how many Americans are there.
And that's the Malfeasance.
We should, because everyone gets an Afghan visa and it's stamped and it goes into a system.
And when you leave, you get an exit visa.
So it amazes me that we can, we talked about this earlier.
They know exactly how much equipment they had in the military there, but they don't know how many people we had there.
And the reason that is, you mentioned that to me, I'm not taking credit for that, but the reason that is, is you have to get a contract to replace the equipment, but there's not a vendor for people.
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Keith, am I understanding this correctly that the airport is closed, no one else can get in the airport?
Is that right?
My understanding is that the gates are all sealed, that no one else will be processed or brought in.
That doesn't mean, I guess, Charlie, that they could bring some people on covertly, but my understanding is all formal processing is shut down at this point.
I know we have retasked our guys to get people out over land and through different ways.
And so, what does that mean?
That means that if you're an American still stuck in Kabul because your government didn't prioritize you in the EVAC process, you're on your own.
You are now living under Taliban control.
Is that right?
I have gotten probably 10 texts while we've been talking from people all over the country and in other countries asking me to help them coordinate.
And again, Charlie, I'm not an expert.
I'm just someone that was there and paid attention.
I don't understand what's going on with our quote leaders.
We have a lot of people in positions that should understand this that don't.
But there's a good group of guys that are working and gals to take care of folks and to make sure that they get out of the country.
It may not be as quickly, but we pray that it's safe.
So, Keith, what now should be the message?
And I'm not trying to say we have to politicize this, but unfortunately, the regime needs to be challenged.
What needs to be the message on this, Keith?
Because they're going to try to say, well, death happens all the time at war.
There's nothing, you know, just get used to it.
That's going to be their message.
This is why it was never going to be easy.
It's always going to be messy.
Get used to it.
Suck it up.
Keith, make the argument to our rather sizably growing audience right now.
Why that is a lie?
What needs to be the message by the opposition party?
Well, I think we have a controlled opposition party and bordering on a uniparty.
I think the message should be this.
I think the Republicans need to get in a room by themselves, look at each other and say, it's like a typical hot wash.
We failed.
We didn't fail a little bit.
We have failed the American people miserably and then do something about it.
They're so busy, it appears, tweeting out and talking, giving talking points out and saying how bad this administration is, yet they're not doing anything to change the course of our current trajectory here in this country.
Why isn't the Freedom Caucus coming up with not talking points, but truth points?
Because we have truth on our side and going back to their home districts and getting on their local affiliates and coming out with their messaging, which their local affiliates will take time away from the dog pageants they're covering to actually cover these guys.
And then that can be pushed on social media.
Here, I can, I'll sum it up very clearly.
The problem with the Republicans is the same problem that the administration has in Afghanistan.
They have no strategy.
And when they were hit, they don't know what to do.
So they revert back to talking instead of acting.
And that's why I like President Trump so much.
He came in, he saw a problem, and he wasn't perfect, but he really tried to solve it.
And it seems like our controlled opposition loves to talk about problems.
There are a lot of YouTube heroes, but in actuality, there is zero fruit being produced at this time in our nation's history, and we need it.
You know, Keith, what you're doing, I just want to reiterate for the audience, you know, Keith hasn't been sleeping for like the last five to seven days.
You're doing heroes.
He's working harder than our president.
Yeah, you're telling him he is.
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It's absolutely true.
So thank you for everything you're doing.
Thank you to the president.
You know, I'm one of a lot of people that are doing this.
Believe me, I'm not special.
No, that's true.
There is a network of these people like Keith that served over there that can't stand what is happening and they are actually stepping up, unlike our president.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's just, it's, it's malfeasance and it's immoral.
So we feel like we have, we have an obligation to the people that took care of us.
And you're a representation of the heart of this country.
And I mean, what we're seeing from this leadership is not a representation of what this country actually is, the spirit and the fight and the people.
And that's why this is so traumatic.
I think this event is going to go down in history as one of the most traumatic psychological events.
Obviously, the lives lost and the chaos and the tragedy for the family themselves is unthinkable.
But psychologically, the impact to our nation that watching this failure at the highest levels is going to do to us, I think it's something we're going to be talking about for years to come, decades, unfortunately.
That's exactly right.
And the Pentagon has come out and they said we can confirm that a number of U.S. service members were killed, a number in today's complex attack at Kabul airport that they knew was coming and they did nothing to preempt.
A number of others are being treated for wounds.
We also know that a number of Afghans fell victim to this heinous attack.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to loved ones and teammates of all those killed and injured.
That is the end of the Pentagon statement.
10 seconds ago.
Charlie, that sums it up.
There weren't Marines that died in the service of their country.
They were servicemen that were numbered.
They did not even identify what they stood for and who they and the flag on their uniform and this part of the service they were in.
They did not even give them that.
They reduced them to numbers because that's what this administration does.
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Let them know I sent you.
We are joined by Jack Bauer himself, Jason Borin.
Together, Victor Marks is a friend of mine.
He is a high-risk humanitarian with successful missions in Iraq, Syria, North Africa, Southeast Asia.
He is running a command center to try to help in Afghanistan.
And I'm telling you, you ever meet Victor Marks, and if you've done something wrong, run the other way.
This guy, he is a hero.
Victor, can you hear me?
I can.
Do you have me?
Yes, we are live right now.
Victor, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Hey, thank you.
I appreciate you having me, Charlie.
So, Victor, yeah, good to see you.
You are just in the region.
You have tons of context of what's happening in Afghanistan.
Give us the update right now.
What is happening in Kabul?
Okay, well, let me say this first: the good news.
We've been able to get the coalition out of 5,289 refugees.
And even in one of our centers, two babies were born.
So that's the good news, okay?
We have success.
The bad news, it is absolutely probably the worst thing I've ever seen.
I have to work in.
We're trying to get people out because of the lack of communication and poor leadership, as always.
But right now, there's been two suicide bombings this morning.
One was at the Abbey Gate, which is at the Sullivan camp.
It's a kind of Marine base and it's at the airport.
And the other was at the Barron Hotel.
Many were killed.
And sadly, we're hearing right now, four Marines, my fellow Marines, were killed.
There's been nothing but non-stop frustration at the lack of participation of leadership from the White House.
I mean, right now, we know Americans have been killed.
The airbase has been attacked.
Mortars have been dropped.
And a blunted operation last night with three close to 300 orphans that we, with our associate team and network, through very courageous effort, got all together at the airport for pickup.
And our plane that was coming in was waved off, and the kids were actually pushed back outside of the gate.
This is how crazy the situation is there.
And I just want to say that we need people praying and we need our Congress, we need our politicians, and we need Americans to step up and say it's enough.
And so, Victor, I want to follow up on one part of this.
Andrew, do you want to ask the question?
I don't know if your mic is working.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Victor, hopefully, you can hear us.
Yeah, so we were hearing similar reports about the orphans.
There was a bunch, it sounds like a number of you guys that were working behind the scenes to coordinate this operation to get the orphans and some women and children in.
And then, I mean, I don't want to speculate, but I'm hearing they were turned away.
Why were they turned away?
And do we know what happened to them?
Were they in the bomb sites, either of them?
Do we have any information on them?
Well, we did get them inside the airport.
We got them into the gates and process.
And then because of, let's just say, high threat, I never want to second guess military commanders and the decisions that they make because of maybe perhaps more information.
But to push them out was absolutely unbelievable.
And we have contact with them.
And just so the listeners know and can pray, we've regrouped and we're going to try to do the rescue again.
And man, I pray to God nobody gets in our way because we let people know last week there's a certain point when if the administration doesn't allow our military to do what needs to be done, then by God, his grace, there's a lot of former guys who will cowboy up and go get stuff done.
Wait, so Victor, I want to make sure I understand that correctly because I've been hearing that from a lot of former service members.
As now we know four Marines were killed today as they were playing traffic cop, not empowered to actually fight the enemy.
And we knew this terrorist attack was coming.
So if I understand this correctly, a lot of veterans are going to say, you know what?
I will take a flight to Islamabad and get a car and go do this myself if I have to.
Am I understanding that correctly?
You are, but here's my absolute counsel, okay, to all the great veterans and very capable people.
We're now in the long run.
This is a long game now.
With thousands of Americans that are trapped inside of Bashirness and thousands, and then missionaries and Christians and people who helped us.
The X spot at Kabul is over.
So we would just tell people, please don't limit a camel and get your 300 windmag out and head our way.
What we need is everybody, battle patience.
We've got great teams together.
We're going to start orchestrating long-term rescues and recovery for this to happen.
And although I'm not a foreign intelligence operative, I will say this: that the teams and heroes that are working with me are unbelievable.
And shout out to, I mean, Save our Allies and Chad Robichaux, my colleague Jeff Teeth, who's a former Delta operator with 1,000 missions, and the men and women that no one's going to know that are doing the hard work, you know, especially in the intelligence aspect and on the ground, because we can't give the information.
But this is when Americans have to stand up.
I mean, people are dying.
Americans are dying.
And this is horrific beyond belief.
So, really quick, Victor, we've heard different estimates on your own personal intelligence on the ground as you have teams working.
How many Americans are still stranded in Kabul and can they get to the airport?
Okay.
First, I would say at the minimum, there's eight to ten thousand.
Wow, wow.
And that's that's based on your sources, the people you know on the ground.
Yes, I will say this on your show: that one of our one of our operators in the special operations community on the ground told me just hours ago he believes the estimate in the country of Afghanistan is closer to 20,000.
Wow.
And so, can they get to the airport?
I mean, I've heard it's sealed off.
The processing is done.
Negative.
No, they haven't been able to get to the airport for a long time.
When President Biden said the Taliban is allowing you through, that simply is not the reality on the ground.
And, you know, we have had Americans make it through, but I'm telling you, it has been the absolute crap show of anything.
What should have happened and what we keep telling people, the only solution, and it just doesn't look like it's going to happen currently, but is a NEO, a non-combative evacuation operation to get all the Americans out.
But you have to leverage and utilize our incredible military, men and women who are even there now at Kabul, who could absolutely start to execute this operation.
And I'll tell you what, if any cowards from ISIS-K who set off these suicide bombers or if the Taliban started getting silly, we would smoke them.
We would absolutely obliterate them without any type of prejudice because of what they're doing.
And I'll tell you guys something very sad.
I got a report last night that a father in his stress and duress killed his daughters to keep the Taliban from taking them.
This is the level of survival and fear.
I've got groups right now that I'm trying to get out.
And of course, the orphans take the precedent.
And then, of course, we want Americans out.
But we're having to move to long game.
And without the cooperation of the administration, groups like ours and coalitions we've got and very, I would say, tier one solid professional networks, we're going to continue to do the work.
You know what?
It costs money because we get zero funding from the government.
So if people want to help, we're putting it right where it needs to be, including providing food, water, medical for people of faith, Christians still inside.
And I'll tell you something, because Charlie, I know you were friends.
We share the same faith.
There's actually a small church in Afghanistan in a certain area, I won't say.
And you know what?
They said the small church and the leadership said, we've prayed and we're supposed to stay here.
Even if we can get them out, they said we want to stay here to make sure that the church continues and faith continues to thrive in such darkness.
It's incredible.
That's courage.
That's heroes of the faith.
Amazing.
Yeah, Victor, I wanted to ask you something.
You said, and we want to know how to help you guys.
So please make sure we make that very clear here.
But Justin, you mentioned you're not getting any support from the administration.
Justin, U.S. State Department goes into hiding and cancels today's briefing.
The State Department is also telling Americans to leave the airport area and to get far from it.
So one question, why are we hearing from the State Department that they're canceling all their meetings?
Like, you know, why can't they brief us?
Yeah.
And where the heck are Americans supposed to go if they can't go to Kabul?
Is Bagram going to come back online miraculously or something?
It's a great question.
And one, you know, it shouldn't surprise anybody.
The consistent lack of leadership from the administration is only proof that we got the wrong person in the White House and he's surrounded himself with incapable leaders.
When a mistake is made, you assess the situation, you pivot for a better solution, and you surround yourself with capable men and women to do the right thing.
These men and women that are making these decisions have what we call thin data, meaning they're getting little briefs.
They're hearing from think tanks that no one has actually, very seldom these people have ever gone in the country, lived among the people, and understand what it takes to get it done.
And I'll tell you what, it's an atrocity because lives have been taken.
Lives are in the balance.
And with the Americans, we were telling people when Biden was making these assertions, yeah, just leave your place and go to the airport.
We were saying, no way, no, no way, it's not going to happen.
And now he's saying, they're saying, don't come to the airport.
Of course not.
It's the X.
And the administration allowed it to be so.
Victor, I want to ask you a question.
You serve.
You are a Marine.
Is that right?
That's correct.
I want you to tell us how this is, in your opinion, I don't want to lead the questioner.
Was this a man-made disaster in Afghanistan?
Was this preventable, what we are seeing?
It absolutely was.
I mean, when you factor in all the challenges that go into situations like this with better planning, with better leadership, again, I'm going to point to the White House, even the State Department.
This could have done better.
I'm not taking away from those who've, they're in certain positions that have done the best, but ultimately, it doesn't stop with the president.
And there's been such poor leadership.
And now there's blood on his hands because of bad decisions.
So, yeah, this absolutely, again, if we just start with the NEO, the non-combative evacuation operation, had that been done not by the State Department, which honestly, they don't know what they're doing, put it back over to the DOD, or we have firepower, Marines that are trained.
Heck, the 82nd Airborne could have executed.
And there are a lot of good men and women at Kabul right now.
And believe me, they're fast pulling out.
That situation has deteriorated to where they're taking mortars, small arms fire, suicide bombers, and we've lost American lives.
And it could have been avoided.
So, Victor, in the couple minutes we have remaining, what can people do to help?
People feel helpless right now.
On the political side, we're going to be.
I'm calling for the 25th Amendment impeachment, resignation, removal from office.
Some people are using court martial.
Yeah, some people are using the T-word treason.
Some people are saying court-martial, whatever.
I mean, we'll deal with that.
But what can people do right now?
Because our government is quite honestly uninterested in saving American lives.
They're not deploying Marines, not deploying special forces.
Victor, you know, a lot of these special forces guys.
I got two calls from them last night and I met them throughout the years.
They said, Charlie, all my special forces buddies, you let us into Kabul, 200 of us.
We could retake the city, and there'd be a lot of dead people that got in our way.
I mean, what can people do to help right now that are just regular civilians?
Well, that's the truth.
With the right people in place, you have to kill God people to change people's minds.
You got to hurt people's feelings in order to change the environment.
And far too long, our good men and women who are very good at that have been humstrong.
So, for the audience, I would say this: and I want to pray: right now, I'm getting comms and I'm communicating.
Excuse me, we're mounting a second attempt to rescue these orphans.
We need people to pray.
I always believe there's a spiritual component in things like this.
When bad things happen, we call it manifestations of evil.
When we were recovering and rescuing and helping facilitate things, getting women and children back from ISIS these last six years, we understand, and this is we're comfortable in conflict, but I would say prayer matters.
One, and two, uh, track with us because misinformation and wrong motives really can mess up a process.
So, I would encourage people to track with us.
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And that's the two questions you ask people: you have to have access and placement with the network in order to get things done.
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At least 60 people killed in the Kabul explosion and four Marines that we know of.
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Victor, thank you so much for joining us and thank you for stepping up with all the resources you have to save Americans because our government is not doing that, unfortunately.
Our government and State Department and our military want to do that, but our leadership will not be distracted with such things such as America's in duress.
And so you deserve a lot of credit, Victor.
You're part of a group of people.
We just had Keith Rose on before who's doing something very similar.
It's a small group of you guys.
You are the true patriots.
You really are.
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10.
10 American service members have died now in Kabul.
That's right.
Tweet from Brett Baer is, yeah, 10 U.S. servicemen killed.
The number unfortunately keeps rising.
We also have indications of at least 150 casualties.
And we heard earlier from Keith, Dr. Keith Rose, that he was getting from his sources, it was 250.
So there's also some video footage that we see circulating of some of the blasts.
10 service members.
That's got to be the most killed in at least five years in one day in the Middle East.
10 U.S. service members that were told not to fight.
We're not here to fight.
We're here to just kind of do paperwork.
And Biden knocked on wood and chuckled while he sent Camilla Harris to Hanoi.
He sent the vice president to Vietnam while lives were in danger.
No threats that were ushered against potential retaliation.
You know how you would have prevented this?
Exactly what we talked about in this program.
All Biden had to do is say, if there is one American that's killed, the Taliban village of women and children burned to the ground.
You know what?
The Taliban would have self-regulated this.
They know.
Are you kidding me?
They know exactly what all the dirty bombs are.
How did we get intelligence about this before it happened?
And Jen Saki said that this was an amazing success.
I think it's worth in this moment kind of playing a clip from Kaylee Mack and that she's been talking to the president, President Trump, this whole time, and she had some interesting things to say.
The only reason I want to play this is I just think it's what we're dealing with now in a feckless leader in Joe Biden who is not speaking to the American people.
The Pentagon.
Where is he?
Where's Joe Biden?
I'm going to lose my patience here, Andrew.
You should.
I'm going to lose it.
I think we're all losing.
I am, I, you know, it's fruit of the spirit of self-control, and I'm doing my best here.
Where is the president of the United States, everybody?
Where's the State Department?
Where's the Department of Defense?
Who's in charge of this country?
Who's in charge?
Just so you know, at least 60 killed now and 150 wounded in Kabul attacks.
And now we're getting other reports, the imminent threat from another bombing of the North Carolina.
They've known this for six hours minimum.
Just so you know how the news cycle works.
It goes halfway.
Let's just say they've known this for at least a couple hours.
And they sent out this ridiculous press conference.
And what did they say with Trump?
If there was one thing, where's Trump?
He does a press conference immediately.
Where is Joe Biden?
And he would take questions.
Where is Kamala Harris?
Where is Tony Blinken?
Where is that worthless, feckless, spineless John Kirby?
Where's Mark Milley with all the medals of wars that he retreated to?
Where's Lloyd Austin, the diversity pick of the Department of Defense?
Who is running the country?
Well, and that's why I want to play this clip.
Don't let it get worked up too much.
All of that just makes what we're about to play.
Play Kaylee.
Play the clip here, and we'll take it on the other side.
You would have never had an accent like this.
He said to me yesterday, we managed to get Afghanistan under control with 2,500 troops.
It was a measured withdrawal, bit by bit, to where we had it secure.
He came close to wanting to pull out our troops several times, but he listened to the generals.
He listened to those around him and negotiated a conditions-based withdrawal.
Not only that, the Taliban feared President Trump.
They looked at what happened to Soleimani.
They looked at what happened when Syria gassed its own people.
He took action.
He's a man of action.
And now you have a buffoon as our commander-in-chief.
He vacations in Delaware.
He doesn't take questions.
He turns his back on the American people.
And President Trump said it best.
He's a surrenderer-in-chief.
We have a surrender.
He's kind of co-pilot.
It is now what it's 2.15 Eastern.
Is that right?
Yep, 2.10.
And there is zero comment from the president.
Is Biden just kind of watching while 10 military service members die while playing traffic cop with your reckless withdrawal?
Is that just the new normal?
While Joe Biden declares war on Ron DeSantis and the unvaccinated and the Taliban or ISIS or whomever, because they're all part of, and Keith Rose made this argument.
They're all tied together.
I know they all supposed to hate each other.
They work as proxies.
But they all work as proxies, okay?
And they all want Americans dead.
So Joe Biden, in his mass incompetency or malevolency, just allowed this thing to unfold.
And we were told it's perfectly fine.
And you know what really upsets me, Andrew?
Is last week or a couple of days ago, we did the knock-on wood foreign policy.
Remember that?
We said the knock-on wood doctrine, and we said Americans are going to die because of this.
And just then, there's another imminent threat of another bombing on the north gate of Kabul.
10 Americans are dead.
10 service members are dead.
It's going to get worse, too.
We're hearing that.
It's going to get worse.
We should be having Jack Posobiec join us in just a second, but he was just mentioning the same.
He said what he's hearing is that it's about to get a little bit, a lot of bit worse.
Who's in charge?
The Taliban are in charge, Charlotte.
I mean, but go through the motions, Biden, and pretend that you're running the country.
Kamala Harris, anyone.
Is Jensaki there?
She always likes to run her mouth.
Oh, no, she's too busy for the cover of Vogue magazine.
Or Jensaki is...
Oh, third explosion reported near Kabul airport interminute gunfire.
Can you please let the dogs loose so we can start killing these?
Can I say that word?
Well, I mean, kill the bad guys.
Kill.
Can we let the dogs loose, please?
Enough playing games.
Put the special forces and Navy SEALs in the streets and start counting the bad guys as they start getting killed.
All of them.
You know what was striking to me?
We had.
Start piling the Taliban bodies up by the side of the buildings.
No more Americans are allowed to be dying in Afghanistan.
I mean, what was striking to me is you got Keith Rose, who's an absolute patriot and a hero, completely fearless.
And then you've got Victor Marks, who is like a hero.
Yeah.
These guys, you heard him.
What Victor said, he said, let us cowboy up.
He said, I'm going to go cowboy up and solve this myself.
Yeah, these are goat herding perverts, okay?
You talk to these special forces.
They say 100 of us could take the city in a night.
Okay?
And just so you understand, these guys just learned how to use sophisticated weaponry.
Yes, they blow themselves up and they were tough to fight in the hills.
They are not built for this.
Let me just say right now.
And Biden knew it.
Remember, it was Joe Biden that tried to talk Obama out of the Osama bin Laden raid.
Remember that?
Was that right?
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
Biden doesn't like confidence.
How compromised is Biden?
Who's in charge?
Getting worked up here, everybody.
And I hope you are too.
10 Americans just got killed because of the recklessness.
And now there's a third explosion, and we're just supposed to sit idly by like the peanut gallery.
Like the Marines are just supposed to watch this happen.
What did Jen Saki say the other day?
We have the tape here somewhere.
Well, this is what happens when you negotiate with terrorists, by the way.
So this whole thing is predicated on good faith with the Taliban, Taliban.
Good faith.
And they're terrorists.
So what happened?
Cut 59.
Play Cut 59.
So far, Afghanistan is nothing but a success.
Cut 59.
I would say that this is now on track, Peter, to be the largest airlift in U.S. history.
So, and that is bringing American citizens out.
It is bringing our Afghan partners out.
It is bringing allies out.
So, no, I would not say that is anything but a success.
Anything but a success.
No.
10 Americans.
What are their names?
Who are they?
This is worse than Benghazi, just so you know.
Benghazi, we lost four Americans and lost our embassy.
We've lost our embassy here.
Now, four Americans, 60 Afghans dead.
And this was, you know, what's so frustrating about this is that we saw this happening in slow motion.
Didn't we enter?
We were warning about this last week.
Like, hey, they control the whole city.
Who's going to have, who's going to get the Afghans out?
Who's going to be happening?
Who's going to get, I mean, who's going to get the Americans out?
What happened in the Afghan military?
And now there's a third explosion.
Third explosion.
So what they do in these instances, just so people are aware, they set off one explosion in one location.
This is why they call it a complex attack.
And when you set off an explosion in one location, that funnels the crowd to another location.
And then they let off another explosion when the crowd gets more, when it gets more densely populated in a certain area.
And then what happens is they probably run to the next location, which is why we're hearing about a third attack and gunfire.
So again, you let the dogs loose?
100%.
I mean, this is not a fair fight.
And Biden is refusing to engage in it.
So according to your president, according to the Biden regime, it's okay if American body count gets into the double digits.
Hey, triple digits.
It's not like it's our fight.
Remember what Joe Biden said?
Joe Biden's whole rationale for the way he did the withdrawal is it's killing season and I don't want Americans to die.
Well, now 10 Americans are dead.
And where is he?
Where is he?
Where is Biden?
Where is Saki?
Where are these people?
13 U.S. service members have now been killed.
Preventable deaths in Kabul.
And Joe Biden owns this.
He was warned about this.
We told him that this was going to happen.
Not just me, but many others.
Well, he doesn't listen to me, but you know what I mean.
We said this publicly, and he did nothing about it.
13 American service members, Marines and members of the military, dead today that we know of in 10 and critical condition.
And it's going to rise from there with another explosion, and we are not even fighting back.
We're just letting it happen.
That's the new American way.
Just take it up however you want.
Enjoy it.
The new American regime position is enjoy the abuse.
While 13 American military service members die, there will be 13 caskets that leave Kabul Airport with flags draped over them that have to land in America.
What's Joe Biden going to say to those family members?
Joe Biden's whole rationale is that I didn't want the killing to continue while the killing continued because of you, Joe Biden.
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Joe Biden always ends his speeches saying something that says, God bless the troops.
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Jack Pasebic joins us from HumanEvents, Humanevents.com.
Jack has the best sources in the White House of anyone that I've seen better than Maggie Haberman.
And that's saying something.
He's breaking stories that it's hard to even believe.
Jack, I want you to listen to these clips alongside of us if we're able to do that.
Are we?
Okay, let's play 83 and then 84.
And then I want to get Jack Pasebic's reaction.
Cut 83.
We made clear to the Taliban that any attack, any attack on our forces or disruption of our operations at the airport will be met with swift and forceful response.
Swift and forceful response.
Well, 13 Americans are now dead and the list is growing, unfortunately.
Jack Pasebic joins us.
Jack, what are you hearing and seeing?
Well, see, the situation on the ground is not what the administration is saying.
And I think that's to put it bluntly, the Taliban doesn't have control over the entire city of Kabul any more than the U.S. government has control over the entire airfield there.
There are people right now that are doing chartered line of flight, line-of-sight flights into Kabul that are just kind of picking up there.
And if you find someone who's crazy enough to charter a flight anywhere within the region and you can get there, you can go to Kabul right now, right?
It is a complete free-for-all.
So that's number one on the ground.
Number two is that there are terrorist groups.
There are militias.
There are all sorts of that our military was prior to all of this doing a very good job of keeping at bay and at least keeping our people and our operations safe by drawing them down, pulling them back and slapping the handcuffs on with these ridiculous rules of engagement saying that we can't go out and start conducting offensive operations to defend our position, to defend the people that we are trying to get out, right?
When we have no idea who is in these throngs of people is ridiculous.
So of course, when ISIS knows that this is a spot where all the people that worked with the Americans are congregating, it's indefensible.
It's out in the public.
There's open sewers.
There's human.
You've seen the videos coming out all week.
Of course, there was going to be a terrorist attack there.
But Joe Biden is so feckless as to think that, oh, the Taliban's just going to keep their deal.
No, that's absolutely not the situation.
Taliban's been fighting ISIS, but that doesn't mean there aren't ISIS forces still in the area that we could deal with if you just let our military do their job.
So Jack, letting the military do the job.
What are the specific things that now need to be done as 13 Americans have died today?
It seems that the Biden regime has been more focused on making sure that service members are vaccinated and like by potentially revoking their ability to serve than executing a successful withdrawal from Kabul.
Who's in charge here, Jack?
You've got, and this is a broader question.
You know, Charlie, the last time you and I spoke, we talked about a scenario where the U.S. and China went into war over Taiwan.
I said the U.S. is prepared to face an imminent military failure on the world states.
Now, we were talking about Taiwan, but you look at what's happened here in Afghanistan and everything that we said on that podcast has come true.
Every single thing was the psychological and complete moral underpinning and the decimation of the credibility of our institutions throughout Washington, D.C., throughout the Pentagon, throughout the intelligence community, right?
These institutions have been crumbling before our eyes for years, and now we are seeing the fruits of that.
Now we are seeing what happens when you let these rotten institutions run things the way they see fit, rather than having actual leaders go in there and let people know how to get the job done.
So, Jack, you were a naval intelligence officer, and the reports are 11 Marines killed and one Navy medic.
Yeah, just updated.
11 Marines now dead, one Navy medic.
And that's not an exhaust.
We don't know if 13 are killed.
Last report, there were 10 in critical conditions.
So, I mean, in theory, you know, they're all at risk right now.
Yes, and Navy medic, that's a, that's fleet marine service.
So they've Navy medics usually run with Marines out there.
So I know some.
I know some very, I have very good friends in that community, as a matter of fact.
So, Jack, let me ask you.
You have very good sources in the White House.
Are they thinking of a response to this attack on our country, this military attack?
Are we going to respond with force?
What's going?
Like, what are you hearing?
Are we going to finally be able to deploy special forces?
And by the way, by the way, there was a huge push that was going on over the past week that Austin was actually for about retaking Bagram, sending the Rangers in, sending in a battalion, fast roping in, taking over, then putting in a company, securing that airfield so that we'd have something that wasn't in the middle of the city, that was an actual military fortified point that people would be able to, that we'd be able to control.
It's about 45 miles north of Kabul, clear the road, and have the military go out and conduct these offensive operations and actually go out and push for this, right?
Joe Biden shot it down.
Joe Biden said he didn't want a Blackhawk down moment.
And that was the refrain that won out inside the administration: is that they are terrified of what they think is going to be a black hog down moment because they don't understand what it's like to just let the troops go in and do what they need to do and let the combat commanders actually run operations.
They want to control everything from thousands and thousands of miles away in Washington, D.C.
So they dip their toe in and they get out and they believe that they can solve everything with just one surgical strike and it's not going to be messy and everything is going to be fine and it'll all be taken care of.
No, absolutely not.
Right?
This is war is messy.
War is hell, right?
That is the name of the game.
And these guys know what they signed up for.
A lot of people were pushing for the retaking of Bagram.
It was shot down.
It's just hard to believe.
And so now reports are showing that Joe Biden is in the Oval Office.
Has he woke up from his catnap?
Yeah, did the shot work?
Is it set in yet, Jack?
It's 2:40 Eastern.
There are 13 Americans dead that we know of.
It could be 12, but I mean, this is part of coverage, right?
Andrew, this is 12, 13.
Some are saying 13, some are saying 12.
Jack, this has got to be some of the most casualties in one day that we've seen in the last decade.
Is that right?
I'd have to go back to my database, but yeah, it's been a long time since I remember seeing a headline like that, right?
And keep in mind that we're not involved in combat operations right now, right?
So we're not actually involved in, you know, this wasn't some raid on a Taliban or an ISIS stronghold.
In fact, Taliban and ISIS fighting each other.
Taliban largely cleared ISIS out of Jalalabad.
But this wasn't that.
This was us, right, trying to retrograde our forces and get our people out.
So you're talking about casualties now that have been incurred during a which essentially should be a logistics operation.
They're not.
And by the way, we have full on-the-shelf plans.
They're called not combatant evacuation operations, NEOs, or NEOs, that we could be conducting right now if you actually let people go in.
But they're not allowing these combatant commanders, these military commanders, to actually go in and do the things that they're trained to do.
Why?
Because the State Department and the administration are trying to run this entire thing politically.
Andrew?
Yeah, I mean, we're, I'm really fascinated about what you were just saying regarding the Cold War that has now turned hot inside the White House.
That's where my head's going.
I mean, the fact that you address the nation?
Yeah, is he going to address the nation?
Is the question.
I mean, we're hearing, you know, I just, I'm seeing a couple of tweets saying Biden needs to answer every question from the press, every single one.
I don't know.
Are you hearing that he's actually going to be addressing the nation?
I'm looking for confirmation on that.
He's going to have to.
I haven't gotten any specifics on that yet, but he's going to have to.
I've got active duty 06s, you know, colonel-level people saying that he needs to either step down or he needs to explain what's going on here because it feels like the commander of chief is completely AWOL while leading people to their deaths.
It's absolutely five hours ago, and we haven't heard from him.
I mean, not even a tweet.
And no, the only statement from the White House today is a statement on women's equality.
Is that right?
This is true.
A proclamation on women's equality.
And all of this was preventable.
Could have secured a perimeter.
We could have allowed our boys to fight.
We could have done any one of these.
We could have had the non-combatant evacuation operations.
We could have offered air support.
But Joe Biden and the Biden regime, they were more interested in declaring war on Ron DeSantis and unvaccinated Americans.
Joe Biden has done more press conferences in the last week about mandating vaccines.
Meanwhile, Cami is in Hanoi or Ho Chinan City or Saigon or wherever the heck she is, reenacting Apocalypse Now.
And so, cackling.
Cackling to her delight.
So, Jack, I do have to ask this: you say it's chaos in the White House.
Are they feeling this as the existential potentially, what did he, what did what did he call it?
The extermination event?
That's what Keith Rose called it.
Yeah.
Are they feeling that in the White House, Jack, from all of your very credible sources?
They've got to be seeing at least the polling.
You have to, the way to look at this is to put the two pieces of what you just pointed out together, right?
There's a reason that Joe Biden is doing these COVID press conferences all of a sudden, walking out, delivering statements, and then walking back because there is one sliver left of the hard blue Democrats, right, that still support him.
And that's the only issue they support him on is over COVID.
So they think that if he can just cling on to those, then that's one way that can possibly lead him through all the way to, and they're trying to get him to midterms, right?
They thought they were going to get a full term out of him.
Now they're saying, well, if we can just get him to 23, right?
If we can just get him to 23 right now.
So that's why they're saying if we can hold on, if we can hold on to what's happening on COVID, we know we're going to lose on everywhere else, but if we can hold on to this, then maybe the administration can make it through all of this, right?
That's what the planning is behind the scenes, where publicly it looks ridiculous to many people that say you've got this massive military debacle, the likes of which we haven't seen in U.S. history going on.
Because again, we put ourselves in this box, right?
We walked it.
We decided to walk down this dark alley at this time without backup, right?
That's what Joe Biden did.
Joe Biden lets Joe Biden let Kabul be taken over by the Taliban.
He sat idly by eating ice cream in Delaware and Camp David while it was happening.
The Afghan forces did nothing.
Instead of securing perimeters and holding a line on cities and then destroying the weapons, getting our people out, then the military out.
Now at least 12, maybe 13 Americans are dead.
And unfortunately, more explosions are happening.
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And it's a one-way fight.
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You know, and this is what they miss in Washington.
You know, we can talk about, you know, trans agenda.
We can talk about CRT.
We can talk about all of these issues that are tremendously important.
But there is something very core to the American spirit about losing in a military engagement.
We don't like it.
We're not used to it.
It cuts against everything we know to be true about our national character and our history.
This has people more fired up than anything I've seen in a long time.
The news is tragic, and I don't want to move on beyond it too fast, Jack.
But our folks want to know, what do you know?
How do you know it?
Tell us what you can.
I mean, what do we know?
Kamala Harris.
I don't, yeah, before anybody gets too far ahead of their skis on jumping into the predicted markets or anything, that the conversations would not be imminent, right?
They're talking more about like after midterm going and having a conversation between the various sides.
Though that being said, the events of today may have pushed that.
Emotions are raw.
A lot of people, keep in mind, all the people in that cabinet, all the people in that administration, they've got careers, they've got reputations to uphold in Washington, D.C., various other firms.
They know that they can't hide the incompetence anymore, and they're trying to find some way out of it.
And this is right there in front of them.
So, you know, it could possibly be like some potential power sharing deal could be made where, all right, you're going to go through midterms, but then after that, you know, you're going to resign so we don't have to invoke it.
And again, these are just conversations that are being had.
It's not that there's any finality or that they're actually going to go through with any of this stuff, but it's always a sort of joke for any vice president.
But now they're actually having the tone has shifted and they are speaking about it seriously.
So one of the things that I've noticed is that there appears to be very little warmth.
There appears to be very little, you know, even on-air time.
I mean, Kamala Harris was gone for like six days and then she showed up in Southeast Asia.
Is this why they sent her away?
Because there was this Cold War brewing and now, as you're calling it, a hot war inside the White House?
Right.
So the shade war gone hot.
And remember, this is what they were doing again and again with Kamala Harris, right?
They went to the G7.
They sent her to Guatemala.
They wanted to be in charge of things that they were getting positive marks for in the polls, like taking credit for economic returns.
It really just has to do with the lockdowns going away.
And they were saddling her with issues like the border, which is a complete failure.
And so they were trying everything they could to throw sand on the tracks of that train that's coming because they know that they can't prop up Joe Biden much longer because everyone in the world can see it.
So they were trying to saddle her down with all these different must-fail situations.
Right.
So she's flaming mad.
When they wanted her to stand with Biden during that press conference that you just mentioned, she refused.
Remember, we always hear Biden-Harris administration, Biden-Harris administration, right?
But on this one, she sat in the green room.
She didn't come out and stand with him.
She came out afterwards, you know, over the weekend and didn't even take her mask off, just kind of stood there silently.
And then you get the pink shirt that comes out with her, like her heads in her hands.
And then to this trip that's going on right now, this is pre-scheduled.
They asked her to not go.
They wanted her to stay and have pictures of the situation room and everything else going on.
And she said, no, I'm out of here.
You are not going to pin this on me.
That's incredible.
That's incredible intelligence.
Jack, thank you for that.
Nobody else has been reporting on what's going on inside the White House like you have.
So hat tip to you, my friend.
Really well job.
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Really, really great job.
We only have a minute left here, Jack.
The main question we get about this: everybody wants to see Biden go, but then you're left with Kamala Harris.
How do you weigh those two potential realities in tension?
And again, I don't want to get out of our skis, but if we're going to talk about hypotheticals and on a day like this, I think we should, how do you weigh those two in tension?
I think people have to start getting ready to accept the fact that Kamala Harris is going to be the first female president of the United States.
Wow.
And she will be selected, not elected.
Not a single person will have voted for her.
There will have been no campaign nationally to elect her president, and yet she will assume the office because Joe Biden is not going to finish his first term.
Jack, that's sadly, I think you might be right.
And well, that is the last 10 seconds of the show, guys.
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