Big Tech's Very Good Week & Why Republicans Refuse to Fight Back
From the FTC to Facebook's "Right" to free speech in Florida, the Silicon Valley Oligarchs were handed some pretty significant victories this week. And Charlie dives into how, save the Governor of Florida whose law regulating Big Tech was shut down, the important question of why our side of the aisle remains so eerily silent and seemingly incapable of pushing back against the growing threat of monopoly from the Masters of Menlo Park. He also gives an update and an even deeper dive on the 135,000 "Test" Ballots in New York City and why the call for an audit of every election from last November continues to grow stronger day by day.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Missing New York Ballots00:11:25
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Hey, everybody, we continue our quest to find the 135,000 missing ballots in New York City.
We have a parallel government from Menlo Park, California.
Unfortunately, big tech had a good week, and we explore that.
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Unfortunately, big tech had a good week.
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Back in New York, it looks like New York's got a little bit of life, and I gotta say, looking out the window, it's about one in four people are wearing two masks, and so that's.
That's a good day to be alive at 25, Ish.
Is it going down?
That's actually probably less than that.
And New York's got some spirit back.
I'm cheering for New York.
And, you know, we're going to talk about how New York is leading the world in how to run a third world election.
And we're going to talk about how.
See, I have some questions, and we're going to get into this.
Why were there 135,000 test ballots used in the New York mayor's race?
135,000 test ballots.
Why wouldn't 50 test ballots be sufficient?
And so this opened up so many questions in the New York City's mayor's race where Eric Adams went to an early lead and now his lead is ever decreasing.
By the way, he is not a Republican.
He's not a conservative.
He seems like somewhat of a mainstream Democrat who kind of wants to clean up the streets and doesn't believe the abolition of the police is a good idea.
So I got to thinking, did Arizona or Georgia use any test ballots?
Did Michigan or Wisconsin use test ballots?
Who's in charge of deciding whether or not test ballots should be used?
And if you have not seen the story in the wonderful city of New York, as we are here on WABC, they had a primary where they decided they couldn't count votes as it is.
So they wanted to make it extra confusing.
So they implemented this very bizarre way of counting votes called ranked choice voting.
Now, I'm a huge critic of ranked choice voting because it panders to the most radical voter.
Rank choice voting essentially is you have five options.
And your first option, you put number one, and then the person that you like second gets second.
And so what happens is the person who gets the least amount of votes gets disqualified.
And then those people's votes then go back to their number two choice.
If you're confused, so is the New York Board of Elections.
And if you're really confused, so is Bill de Blasio, who basically comes out and says, look, man, after he took a big hit, it's really tough running New York elections.
It's not like we're New York City or anything.
This is, we're a third world country.
And basically, unfortunately, he's somewhat right, but I'm still pulling for New York.
Now, the problem with ranked choice voting, again, is that it gives an extra platform to not an extra platform.
That's not the right way to word it.
It allows the people in last place, so the socialist types, to all of a sudden pick the winner.
Instead of allowing a plurality to elect somebody, where it basically should be, they say, you know what?
We know that the AOC types, you know the types, whatever the most radical person that wants to destroy the city, that's who they want to have become mayor.
And so they designed a system where the normal common sense people, all of a sudden, they did not want that.
They didn't want to give them a bigger platform.
So you have a system that works where you choose a winner.
They say, let's overly complicate that.
And so New York City, we still don't know who's going to be mayor.
It's going to take them a couple months.
You know, we're going to kind of just be like Senegal and we're going to find votes in some sort of a warehouse.
But again, I do have a question, which is, did some of these battleground states, did they have test ballots?
In fact, one of the sworn affidavits said that in Georgia, they saw some test ballots.
And so was New York and what we're witnessing right now in New York, and no one really knows what's going on.
No one knows who's in charge.
It's a pure egalitarian experiment here, right?
Everyone's blaming each other, and there might not be a next mayor.
It just might be like the Paris Commune, right?
Where everyone's, you can do whatever you want to do.
There is no police, but at least there's no more traffic because no one lives here anymore, right?
That's kind of the new New York thing.
Everyone complains about how New York is right now, except they say, well, the traffic's a lot better.
Oh, I wonder why no one's here anymore.
I'm half kidding.
And the reason is all leadership, and it's a tragedy.
I've been coming to New York for the last 10 years of my life.
Actually, I first came to New York City at the Occupy Wall Street protests, remember, down in Zuccotti Park?
And that was an overwhelming sensory experience, both visually and also the smell.
It knocked you off when you were like a block away.
You're holy moly.
The entire collective Zuccotti Park hadn't showered for quite some time.
And it was Occupy Wall Street when I first came and I started Turning Point USA and I came to New York City with more regularity.
And I loved New York in 2013, 14, 15, 16.
And then something happened in 2017.
And this is a great lesson.
It is a great, it is a piece of wisdom from the phenomenal Alexander Sochenitsyn in the Gulag Archipelago, which he said that all of the tragedy of the Soviet Union happened thanks to ideology, where you have a group of people that care more to their commitment to an abstraction than what's good for the well-being of the citizens around them.
Defund the police.
Why?
Because I read it in the textbook.
Well, is that a good idea?
I don't know.
Go ask my NYU professor.
And what happened in 17, 18, and 19, and I saw it happen in this beautiful city of New York, was all of a sudden, the activists, the ideologues, they were given an opportunity to destroy probably the greatest city in the world, the center of the world, as John Lennon used to call it.
And so instead of seeing what is happening and seeing what very well could solve the problem, like more police or not letting first-degree murderers out on bail, minor details.
Instead, it's a commitment to an abstraction.
It's a commitment to an idea that sounds good in a lecture hall at Fordham University or Columbia University or NYU or Sarah Lawrence, but it really makes no sense in practice.
And the reason why New York City really was able to become the greatest city in the world in the 80s and the 90s is when Rudy Giuliani was mayor in the 1990s and even with Bloomberg in the early 2000s, New York City was an anti-abstractionist political environment.
Even the Democrats made sense because there was kind of this, there was kind of this attitude, especially of the kind of muscular class in New York City, the taxi cab drivers, the garbage, the garbage delivery people, the police officers was like, no, no, but is that good for the city?
And especially after 9-11, there was this attitude of, I don't care your political party.
I don't care where you come from.
Is this going to make New York safer, stronger, and is it going to make more people want to live here?
Now it's the opposite.
Now the cost is completely dismissed.
And you see that in this vote counting bonanza that we're experiencing right now in New York, where it's going to be a couple weeks, if not months, where we figure out what's going to happen.
And they might as well just, and I mean this non-sarcastically, they might as well do the election over again.
At this point, no one is going to become, no one is going to trust who wins this current count.
No one is going to trust whatever result that they announce.
And so the Democrats screwed up the Iowa caucus vote totals.
They screwed up the 2020 election results.
They can't count election results in New York City.
But now they want to control our federal elections at HR1.
Election Results Screwed Up00:02:41
They want to have a complete nationalization of our federal elections, despite not being able to count ballots correctly.
They say, oh, sorry, we are off by 135,000 ballots.
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Scott Hennan emailed me and texted me.
He said, rank voting is also in Fargo, North Dakota, as the leftists got it on the ballot and it passed.
The Fargo City Commission already passed mail and balloting.
Sadly, it's not just New York City.
And you want to know why all of a sudden we are having a hyper-polarized political environment, especially in New York City.
It's because instead of the coalition builder that is rewarded, it is the more radical voters that are then given a higher platform.
So essentially, the loser voters end up picking the winner.
Only if you wanted to have a revolutionary become mayor would you institute a system like this.
We've talked at length about big tech.
Big Tech Parallel Government00:02:47
I think the United States Constitution is the greatest political document ever written.
The United States Constitution recognizes natural rights given to you by your creator.
The United States Constitution has a direct tie to the Declaration of Independence.
Not every historian agrees with this, and those historians are just wrong.
There is an eternal and there is a divine connection between the truths that are stated in the Declaration of Independence, which we celebrate in just a couple days, and the truths of the United States Constitution.
And at the first glance, it looks as if the Declaration is nothing more than a separation agreement with King George, and the U.S. Constitution is then trying to form an idea of how to govern ourselves.
But that is a surface-level reading.
You dive deeper into the Declaration of Independence, you will see that the complaints that Thomas Jefferson offers in the Declaration are solved in the actual Constitution written by James Madison and with the help of Alexander Hamilton after the Federalist Papers in September of 1787, finally with the Bill of Rights ratified in 1791.
And the Constitution talks explicitly, it speaks to this idea, this truth, that you as a human being have the right to speak, assemble, associate, that you have private property rights, and that if something tries to get in the way of those rights, that it is the government's role to stand up for you.
You see, the Constitution was written for the people, which means for individuals, your capacity to speak and to reason, to associate, to communicate.
Now, we take this for granted, but when this starts to all of a sudden come into real life encounters, we sometimes seem to say the Constitution doesn't apply there.
The current example, and we've talked about this, is this example of big tech.
Big tech, best described as a coalition of a couple companies.
And I'm just looking at the television screen.
It's right there: Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, and then Alphabet.
We can remove Netflix.
Let's just talk about, for example, Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple.
I believe that they represent a parallel government.
They represent a power structure that, quite honestly, is more powerful than the own federal government that we give our power and pay our taxes to.
They have more information.
They have more capacity.
Do you know what the combined market cap of Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple is?
Four Trillion Dollar Giants00:02:08
Well, over $5.7 trillion.
That's four companies.
Four companies that have the combined market capitalization, which means their value in the public exchanges of over $5.7 trillion.
That is more than the federal government budget every single year, even with a stimulus package.
And they work weekends.
And almost every single person that works for Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple, they are committed ideologues.
And they are committed to try to remake the American Republic in their image.
The question in front of us, and the question here, is what is more important?
Your right to speak, or four companies with a combined value of over $5.7 trillion to shut you up.
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Federal judge has come out and blocked Florida's social media law, says it's likely violated free speech.
What?
Likely violated free speech?
You're trying to tell me a law that was trying to be passed to protect free speech violates freedom of speech.
Fords.com is writing, a federal judge on Wednesday blocked a Florida law passed by Governor Ron DeSantis that would have allowed the state to penalize social media companies for banning or labeling posts made by political candidates, dealing a blow to the Republican-backed effort to retaliate against the likes of Facebook and Twitter for suspending former President Trump.
First of all, this guy that wrote this article, Sil.atiya Ray, is completely wrong.
The banning and suspending of President Trump is one component of a broader complaint that those of us that care about freedom of speech have against these tech companies.
U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle, whoever that is, issued a preliminary injunction blocking enforcement of the law a day before it was scheduled to go into effect on the grounds that it likely preempted or violated the First Amendment.
Hinkle noted that the law was an effort to target social media platforms, obviously.
Too large and too liberal, the judge says, but added that, quote, balancing the exchange of ideas among private users was not a legitimate government interest.
The judge also pointed out the discriminatory nature of the law as it offers exemptions for companies that operate a theme park in the state, something observers have referred to as the Disney exemption.
Florida's governor Ron DeSantis said he plans to immediately appeal Hinkle's decision, good, and disagreed, quote, with his determination that the U.S. Constitution protects big tech censorship of certain individuals and content over others.
Hinkle continues, this judge, the legislation compels providers to host speech that violates their standards, speech they otherwise would not host, and forbids providers from speaking as they otherwise would.
The governor's signing statement and numerous remarks of legislators show rather clearly that the legislation is viewpoint-based and parts contravene a federal statute.
Well, I would love to have this judge oversee the circuit court in New York because if all of a sudden you have any sort of political motivation behind any sort of action, that should throw out the indictment behind Donald Trump in a second.
But almost no judge will take the political leanings into consideration unless they are so extreme and so over the top.
So this judge is making the argument that the $5.7 trillion companies, four of them, they should be treated as if they are the local Lebanese restaurant in Midtown New York City.
So we have seen what big tech has done and what they are doing and just breaking today on Facebook.
There is a new disclaimer on Facebook.
If you go to Facebook and maybe you like Charlie Kirk's Facebook page or maybe the Turning Point USA page, Facebook now has a pop-up.
It says, are you concerned that someone you know is becoming an extremist?
We care about preventing extremism on Facebook.
Just so you guys know, I want to just train our audience.
Anytime you hear the word extremism, someone is trying to control you.
Anytime you hear the word extremism, it's someone who is trying to use power to manipulate your actions.
Others in your situation have received confidential support.
How you can help hear stories and get advice from people who escaped violent extremist groups.
And then Facebook says get support.
Just so you know, they consider Christians to be extremists.
If you believe in the Bible, you're an extremist.
If you're a member of the National Rifle Association, you're an extremist.
Here's an example of the pop-up you'll get on Facebook now.
Carl, you may have been exposed to harmful extremist content recently.
Violent groups try to manipulate your anger and disappointment.
You can take your action now to protect yourself and others.
Get support from experts.
We did a whole show on that one word, experts, on how that word, if you take the two words that are being used to destroy the American Republic, that actually, I'll put in another two words, public health, experts, and extremism.
We should have a word cloud of the words that are being used to remake America.
Extremist, expert, public health.
Public health being more of a phrase.
So Facebook has basically come out and they are no different than a Democrat super PAC.
They are acting with a certain pattern that they have a political viewpoint and they are willing to try to do whatever it is necessary to accomplish it.
And Ron DeSantis was courageous and heroic to do everything he possibly could to try to at least have a little bit of a check and balance against it.
Facebook in this last week also won a lawsuit against the Federal Trade Commission.
In a December 2020 lawsuit, the FTC alleged that Facebook improperly maintained its monopoly in personal social networking services.
The FTC complaint focused on two sets of practices.
Number one, that Facebook protected its monopoly by acquiring emerging rivals, Instagram and WhatsApp, in 2012 and 2014.
And secondly, that Facebook restricted access to application programming interfaces, APIs, that allowed apps and services to be interoperable with Facebook's platform.
And more specifically, Facebook declined to share API with apps and services that competed with Facebook's core functionability or supported rival social networks.
So now we have basically a set of judges and the way that the laws are currently written that are saying that big tech's right to dominate you is more important than your right to speak.
Where is the check and balance against this?
A French judge named Montesquieu said that liberty is fragile and temporary if there is not a check on power.
So let me ask a couple questions for this federal judge and for anyone out there that says that big tech has a right to be a multi-trillion dollar cartel.
I would like you to ponder on these questions.
Can McDonald's not serve Big Macs to Republicans?
If McDonald's said that they will not serve Big Macs to Republicans, do you think that is legal, moral, and should hold up in the court of law?
Can McDonald's now say that we will not serve hamburgers to 75 million Americans?
Can American airlines kick socialists off their airline and say they can't fly because they want to nationalize the airlines?
Can American Airlines now walk the aisle on a flight from Los Angeles to JFK and say, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard flight 2132, non-stop service from LAX to JFK.
Before we get going, we want to see your voting records.
And if any of you happen to vote for Donald Trump, we will escort you off this airline.
Thank you so much, and make sure you wear your two masks.
Is American Airlines allowed to do that?
Is American Airlines allowed to have viewpoint discrimination based on who uses their airline?
Is ATT allowed to disconnect phone calls between LGBT groups?
Is Verizon Wireless allowed to disconnect phone calls between environmentalists?
What if Verizon Wireless all of a sudden had a meeting and they said, we are now going to not allow phone calls to be made amongst extremists because the experts tell us to do it for public health.
Extremist experts, public health.
Experts that are always worried about us becoming too extreme because of public health.
We must worry about public health because the experts tell us an extremism is on the rise.
You know those three things, then you know a lot about how the current masters of the universe are trying to control us.
The courts are currently saying that their right to dominate you supersedes the right to speak.
Basically, what the courts are currently saying is a multi-trillion dollar cartel has more rights than the vaccine skeptical mother.
That a multi-trillion dollar company has more rights than the pastor who dares post about how he's worried about the transgender craze that's coming to a high school near him.
Now, some people say, well, Charlie, they are private companies.
So is the highway from South Bend, Indiana to Chicago, Illinois.
It's called the Chicago Skyway.
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The Chicago Skyway was built with private funds.
It was built for a public purpose.
Do you know it's against the law if the private group that owns the Chicago Skyway came out and they said, you know what?
We're not going to allow gay people to drive on the Chicago Skyway against the law.
You know, if the Chicago Skyway came out and they said, you know, we're not going to allow Democrats to drive on the Chicago Skyway.
We're not going to allow conservatives because it's against our community standards.
We're not going to allow extremists on our highway.
Those are interstate highways, and Facebook and Amazon and Google are information highways.
And excuse me while I dismiss myself from the overly theoretical arguments and I get into how I see things as they are.
The local Lebanese restaurant that is just right around the corner or Bill's Burgers right around the corner that we know very well, my wife is right there, is a different circumstance completely than a multi-trillion dollar international company.
Now, some people say, well, Charlie, the law must apply for the small and for the large.
Of course it must.
We're simply saying that when you're a multi-trillion dollar company with a user base that is the entire North American continent, basically, certain accommodations are going to have to be made.
And those accommodations are we're no longer going to pander to the corporate board of Facebook that kicked off a duly elected president that kicks off millions of people every single day and also is engaging in a pattern of monopolistic practices that is bad for you.
I met a restaurateur and he said, Charlie, this last year has been the worst year we've ever had.
I had seven restaurants.
Now we have three restaurants and we let off 350 employees.
Meanwhile, Facebook went from a $700 billion company to a $1.3 trillion company.
If we as conservatives are going to remain true to what we actually believe in, we're going to conserve things that are local, that are beautiful, and that are in the tradition of the preservation of natural rights.
And the current shadow parallel government we have in Menlo Park, California stands in opposition.
In fact, they stand to try and crush those things.
Why haven't Republicans, more of them, done what DeSantis has done to try to put a full court press or pressure on these tech companies?
Isn't it obvious?
So let me explain to you why Republicans are not prepared for this fight and why it's up to you, the voter, and us, the communicator, to be in unison and demand out of our leaders to use their political power to preserve natural rights.
Here's why.
You see, in the conservative movement I grew up in in 2012, 13, and 14, there was a book that was referenced and circulated more than any other book.
And it is a phenomenal piece of literature.
It's called Road to Serfdom by F.A. Hayek.
And this book talks about the threat of government tyranny, of central planning, of picking winners and losers, how you can get famine, hunger, and misery when you overinvolve yourself in the economy.
I believe all of those things.
But the belief behind F.A. Hayek's literature is that power, if it is not checked and balanced, is something that will be abused.
The issue with overemphasizing that particular interpretation of F.A. Hayek's book, Road to Serfdom, results in a seeming indifference to a corporate oligarchy.
What if I told you that we could have a road to serfdom that also has corporations dominating us, not government dominating us?
You see, the true awokening that needs to happen amongst conservatives is that we have two simultaneous threats to our way of life, one from Washington and one from Menlo Park.
If you don't know what Menlo Park, it's Silicon Valley.
They both have similar objectives and aims.
One of them, we have some capacity to check and balance, and that is in Washington.
We at least have some authority for subpoena power.
If you get an audit notice from the IRS, at the end of that audit notice, you have a very cop, a very commonly noted and copy-pasted piece of paper called, these are your taxpayer bill of rights.
Now you can roll your eyes and shrug your shoulders and say, I hate the government.
And by the way, I'm all for all of those things.
But at least you have something called due process.
There's a process to all of that.
But what happens when Google shuts down your email account?
What happens when Wells Fargo turns down your banking ability like it did for a Republican candidate for Senate from Delaware last week, Lauren Witzke?
What happens when all of a sudden the big companies say, we don't think you should exist anymore?
What are your rights of redress or grievance?
Do you have any?
And the problem why conservatives have not signed on to this and why it's still lacking momentum and why there is not the political will is that there is still this muscle memory of the 1970s that, oh, I thought the companies were on our side.
No, they're not.
The chamber is against you.
They care about being the favored companies in a corporatist agenda.
Either we are going to use the political power given to us by voters to restrain big tech and restrain the big fourth branch of government, or we're going to be squeezed by both and they'll fight over the spoils.
Restrain The Fourth Branch00:01:30
The reason why Republicans have not done this is they're so afraid that if they dare use the political power given to them by voters, that that power will be abused.
Newsflash, you're being abused by the people that actually have the power.
The only check and balance that remains against Facebook and Google and Amazon and Apple is the process when you go and vote and the power you give to your leaders.
You know why this judge ruled the way he did?
Because he doesn't feel as if there is an overwhelming political will to try to make him do otherwise.
Alexander Hamilton famously predicted that judges are human beings and they will go the way of the public will almost always, at least in the general direction.
We saw that with the gay marriage decision back in 2011, 2012.
It's time for Republicans and Republican leaders, especially your governors and attorney generals, to take bold and public and dramatic action.
We are living through the big squeeze of our actual government and a parallel government that wants to crush you, the average conservative American.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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