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May 7, 2021 - The Charlie Kirk Show
18:13
FLASH UPDATE: Arizona Election Audit with Tyler Bowyer

On this special flash update episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, guest hosted by Producer Andrew, National Committeeman for the RNC for the State of Arizona, Tyler Bowyer, joins the show to give an update on what we're learning from the ongoing forensic audit of Maricopa County votes.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey everybody, this is Andrew Colvett, producer Andrew, otherwise known as I got the honor to fill in for Charlie today and had a fantastic conversation with Tyler Boyer, who is the COO of Turning Point USA.
He's also deeply involved in Arizona politics.
We had a conversation today with everything you need to know about the updates on the Maricopa audit.
You are not going to want to miss this.
It's very interesting, everything that's going on.
Lots of rumors, lots of pieces of information that are flying at you every direction, including the DOJ get involved.
I had to ask Tyler all about it.
Check it out.
You don't want to miss it.
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We have a Maricopa Audit, the America's audit report, exclusive right here on the Charlie Kirk show with none other than Tyler Bowyer, COO of Turning Point USA.
Welcome to the show, Tyler.
Yes.
We are happy to have you.
So the reason I think this actually flows really well is we're talking about how the experts are wrong.
They tell us that we're going to get, you know, a million jobs and we get 250,000.
They tell us that if you ask any questions about this election that happened in 2020, you're a conspiracy theorist.
And as a matter of fact, they're going to smear you on the cover of the New York Times.
Here we go.
The New York Times today, folks, I'm actually holding an old school piece of paper in my hand.
Unattended Ballots and the Bamboo Conspiracy by Michael Wines.
They're trying to...
What's this bamboo?
Let's just start there.
What's the bamboo conspiracy and why are they trying to use this to discredit what's going on here in Arizona?
So let's talk about kind of the update of where we're at.
So right now, the audit's happening.
It's down at the old Coliseum.
That's where the Phoenix Suns used to play before America West Arena.
Right.
The Phoenix Suns Arena recently renovated, and we're hopefully going to be back at the number one spot here, Phoenix Ghost Suns.
Okay.
And we, Lakers fans over here, but we, I didn't say that.
I'm not a Lakers fan.
But we essentially, what's been happening now is that over at the Coliseum, they have outlined the audit process, which is essentially just executing a hand count procedure, right?
Which this is all, most of these procedures are already in the elections procedures manual that was approved by the Secretary of State.
There were some iffy things in there, and we don't believe that a hand count was really, I don't believe a hand count was properly executed by state law, which says that it has to be done by precinct.
And so the law state law only calls for 2% to be done, but it's a minimum of 2%.
It can really be a maximum of as much as you want.
So the audit that's being conducted really isn't that far outside of what could have been done, which is a hand count procedure, matching and verifying the actual physical ballots to the data that's in the voting machines to make sure that those match up.
And so that's what they're doing.
But they're also on top of that looking at a number of things.
So anyone that's submitted, I think, concern or questions, the auditing company is also looking for other things, right?
Cyber ninjas.
Yeah, they're looking for things that, you know, one of the issues is creasing or the marking of the ballots or post, you know, after the fact marking of the ballots, if there's weirdness with that.
They're looking for any irregularities, right?
Anything that's irregular that looks like anything's been tampered with.
And so this thing comes up.
I guess it's on the front page of the New York Times.
It's really a relatively minor thing.
It's silly.
They're just using it to smear the whole process.
We know what they're doing.
They're looking for things outside of, I think, bamboo.
Like they're calling it the bamboo conspiracy because they're looking for bamboo fibers, quote unquote, I'm air quoting bamboo fibers because there was a suggestion that ballots were flown in from overseas.
Look, they're looking for, I'm sure, lots of different fibers.
They're looking for lots of different types of materials to identify that there was any tampering that happened with the ballots.
And realistically, this isn't like something where they're like going in.
That's all they're spending on.
Most of the time that's being spent right now is they're verifying the votes in a hand count procedure that's outlined in the elections procedures manual.
So they would love, they would love for you to believe that this is like some weirdo like thing.
That's not what's happening.
And it's silly to me that the New York Times isn't focusing on what they actually read this by work.
Let me just read this.
Outlines this bamboo conspiracy and this is thousands of ballots are left unattended and unsecured.
People with open partisan bias, including a man who was photographed on the Capitol steps during the January 6th riot, are doing the recounting.
All of these issues with the Republican-backed reexamination of the November election results from Arizona's most populous county were laid out this week by Katie Hobbs, Arizona Democratic Secretary of State, in a scathing six-place page letter.
Okay, so we understand that this Hobbs person is upset that the audit is happening.
We're starting to see the Brennan Center, even the DOJ, it was reported this week, is getting potentially involved.
And I saw a tweet from the Arizona GOP saying that the DOJ has no place here, right?
So there's going to be this tension.
Fill us in on what's going on with the DOJ.
Yeah, I mean, look, I think the position isn't just of the Republican Party here, but the position of the Arizona Senate and the guys that are conducting the audit is that the DOJ really has no oversight, authority, or right to come in and say or do anything, right?
They can, similar to elections, the DOJ sometimes will send elections officials to monitor things to make sure that rights aren't being violated.
The heartbreaking thing, I think, for Democrats and for the Biden administration in this situation is that there are no rights being violated, right?
So, a judge actually, the judge actually just issued this release that just came out, which was saying, you know, the Democrats were saying, oh, there's monumental changes in the media.
We're like, there's monumental changes.
Actually, nothing was changed, which is that no one ever stopped anyone from observing.
Right.
And there's cameras on this place 24-7.
There's cameras.
Security guards everywhere.
They're even monitoring.
So we literally have a live feed going.
Yeah.
CNN and MSNBC are not getting involved, right?
It's so in their world, they don't think anybody's observing.
It's so boring that nobody wants to cover it because it's literally just following a handcount procedure, which, again, the county could have done from the very beginning.
Okay, so the other thing that I've seen that's interesting is that there's, you know, the much talked about Dominion voting systems, right?
I'm hearing rumors that they are missing a password.
And so what's going on with this?
So I personally won't say the D word, right?
Okay, fair enough.
Fair enough.
I'm just kidding.
No, look, the vote.
Dallas, is that what we're doing?
Factually, that is the voting system that's being used.
Sure.
What was said this week, so former Secretary of State Ken Bennett, who is the chairman of the audit process here, and he's doing a tremendous job.
He's very well respected.
He was a tremendous Secretary of State.
He came out this week and said something that just off the cuff.
And so we won't really know more information until the report is actually issued.
But he said something off the cuff that was really interesting.
It was that the voting system, apparently, the people that run the voting system apparently have the only secondary password access.
Got it.
So it's a two-password system where you can input one and then somebody else has to put one in or something.
Like the rest of us here in the world, no one knows how the actual system is.
Well, right.
And listen, we're not being conspiratorial here, folks.
We're just, I'm just reporting what we're hearing.
And this is, this is chatter happening.
And by the way, these machines, if you're going to do an actual forensic audit, are necessary to get the data off of, correct?
So I think that the feeling here is that, and this is the proper feeling, and I think that people are getting that it's probably wrong if we're relying on a third party.
It doesn't matter who the third party is.
That's a good point.
If you're relying on a third party to have any access to the voter data in any way, shape, or form, that's putting all your faith and trust into somebody that's not a government entity, that's not an elected official.
That's crazy.
And that's risky.
That's risky.
That's a risky proposition, no matter how good of a person that potentially could be.
And so I think the issue that exists today and looking at that, what we found out this week, and I'm really interested to see what the full report says, is that, hey, we have a real problem if the voting company, voting machine company, is the only one that had access or the secondary password to any software, hardware, anything like that, that's going to raise some real red flags and issues.
And that alone makes the audit worth it, just finding that information out.
Yeah.
And we already know.
Yeah, we already know that this is not going to change the election.
This is a fact-finding mission to see, hey, there was a lot of noise made about the election of 2020, President Trump, et cetera.
What really happened?
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Why are you working so hard to shut the audit down?
What are you hiding?
Isn't it your job to be non-partisan?
You call this a Republican audit.
This is an audit for the people.
Secretary Hobbes, do you have any comment?
All right.
So what you were just listening to, that was Secretary Hobbes avoiding questions about why she is attacking this audit.
You know, you would think, Tyler, that everybody would want transparency.
What are they so afraid of?
There is another issue with this audit being raised about signatures and signature verification.
So do you want to fill us in on what's going on there?
Yeah, so the headline that came out was that this lawsuit that was filed by the Arizona Democratic Party, the Democrat Party, had halted all signature verification and the process.
Right.
Yeah, I remember seeing this and going like, oh, gosh, that's the whole point, right?
Signature verification.
This is why they're freaking out in Georgia and Florida with all the election integrity laws, right?
Yeah, look, my understanding of it, of what's happening, is that's a portion of it, right?
Was looking at some of that.
It's matching the signature on the ballot to what's on the voter roll, right?
When they applied for.
So let's explain something in Arizona, which is similar to other states, but Arizona's every state's unique, right?
So Arizona, how it works for elections, we have a pretty, in my opinion, a little bit too loose of vote-by-mail laws.
So the majority of voters vote by mail now, or at least in the recent elections.
And so we have a significant amount of vote by mail.
And so, like Florida does.
I mean, but you're saying it's not as secure as Florida's system was.
We just, I wouldn't say about security.
I'd say more it's along the lines of just it's easier to register.
We have what's called no excuse or whatever permanent early voting lists, right?
Where you don't have to prove anything.
And once you get on the list, it's permanent.
That's literally the name of it: permanent or early voting.
So people have got on it 10, 12 years ago.
This is why you get ballots.
Yeah, it's the same.
They move around or the ballots fly in the wrong wrong spots.
And so what this issue of signature verification is just on those ballots.
But this election, we had more people show up in person, right?
You know, I don't know if they were totally expecting this, but people weren't actually sending in their ballot.
They were voting in person, which there isn't as much of a signature match on that part because those were all in-person votes.
Oh, interesting.
They still would verify signatures of when people came in and signed up, but I don't think there's as much of a concern there.
The concern, I think, and the predominant part of what this is is matching that the physical ballots actually match up with the voter data.
Yeah.
That's the heavy.
So we can't do that now, or we can?
No, they are.
They are.
And so.
So, but the judge just said that you can't, right?
This is the state Democrats here in Arizona.
There was a quote-unquote settlement that was finalized.
The settlement actually, you know, the statement that was put out by the auditing team was, yeah, all these points in the settlement really changed nothing.
And so I can take you through point by point, which is that the settlement that came through, this is what they said, was the settlement of the audit allows the Secretary of State's office to have observers.
The Secretary of State was never requested to have observers prior to that.
Cyber Ninjas, which is the audit team, never objected to observers.
As a result, nothing changes.
That was a big point of it, which the point of contention was that the Secretary of State could have observers.
And their point was, well, she never asked for them.
We just watched her running away from questions because they didn't want to answer the questions, which is like, hey, are you really being honest about your position on everything?
Yeah.
The truth is no.
Well, and what we talked about in the break, which I think is fascinating for a lot of people, is I saw this report and I thought, oh, no, we can't.
verify signatures.
You're saying that because this has come midway through the process, that a lot of that sample, we already have a sample set large enough.
My understanding is what they wanted and needed to do on the signature side of ensuring that that had been done largely had been done.
So we're good.
So they're fine.
So basically, nothing changes with that.
So folks, rest assured that they are capturing data, that verification is happening, and that the audit is going to actually yield something that we can trust.
What we need is to move forward, verify the actual physical balance to the data.
That's the baseline work.
All this other talk that's surrounding this is distraction from that because once they get that, then they're going to be able to move forward and provide the results and then move forward with what law should look like.
Everybody, thank you to Tyler Bowyer for the update here in Arizona.
Thanks, everybody, for listening in.
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